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Threat Modeling: Protecting Our Nation's Complex Software-Intensive Systems Sep 05, 2025

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In response to Executive Order (EO) 14028, Improving the Nation's Cybersecurity, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) recommended 11 practices for software verification. Threat modeling is at the top of the list. In this podcast from the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute (SEI), Natasha Shevchenko and Alex Vesey, both engineers with the SEI's CERT Division, sit down with Timothy Chick, technical manager of CERT's Applied Systems Group, to discuss how threat modeling can be used to protect software-intensive systems from attack. Specifically, they explore how threat models can guide system requirements, system design, and operational choices to identify and mitigate threats.

Understanding Container Reproducibility Challenges: Stopping the Next Solar Winds Jul 30, 2025

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Container images are increasingly being used as the main method for software deployment, so ensuring the reproducibility of container images is becoming a critical step in protecting the software supply chain. In practice, however, builds are often not reproducible due to elements of the build environment that rely on nondeterministic factors such as timestamps and external dependencies. Lack of reproducibility can lead to lack of trust, broken builds, and possibly mask hidden malware insertion. Vessel, a recent tool from the Carnegie Mellon University Software Institute (SEI), helps developers identify the difference between two container images to help sort benign from problematic issues. In this SEI Podcast, Kevin Pitstick, a senior software engineer at the SEI and Vessel's lead developer, and Lihan Zhan, a software engineer at the SEI working on tactical and AI-enabled systems, sit down with Grace Lewis, lead of the Tactical and AI-Enabled Systems (TAS) applied research and development team at the SEI, to discuss the Vessel tool, its development, and application in mission-critical settings.

Mitigating Cyber Risk with Secure by Design Jul 14, 2025

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Software enables our way of life, but market forces have sidelined security concerns leaving systems vulnerable to attack. Fixing this problem will require the software industry to develop an initial standard for creating software that is secure by design. These are the findings of a recently released paper coauthored by Greg Touhill, director of the Software Engineering Institute (SEI) CERT Division. In this latest SEI podcast, Touhill and Matthew Butkovic, director of Cyber Risk and Resilience at CERT, discuss the paper including its recommendations for making software secure by design.

The Magic in the Middle: Evolving Scaled Software Solutions for National Defense Jun 18, 2025

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A January 2025 Defense Innovation Board study on scaling nontraditional defense innovation stated, "We must act swiftly to ensure the DoD leads in global innovation and competition over AI and autonomous systems – and is a trendsetter for their responsible use in modern warfare." In this podcast from the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute (SEI), chief technical officer Tom Longstaff discusses the SEI's long-standing work to help the DoD rapidly scale technology including artificial intelligence (AI) and autonomous systems.

Making Process Respectable Again: Advancing DevSecOps in the DoD Mission Space Jun 04, 2025

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Warfighters in the Department of Defense (DoD) operate in high-stakes environments where security, efficiency, and speed are critical. In such environments DevSecOps has become crucial in the drive toward modernization and overall mission success. A recent study led by researchers at the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute (SEI) examined the state of DevSecOps within the Department of Defense. In this podcast, Eileen Wrubel, the SEI's Transforming Software Acquisition Policy and Practice technical director, sits down with George Lamb, director for DoD Cloud and Software Modernization in the Information Enterprise Office of the DoD CIO, which is responsible for the DoD Software Modernization Strategy and its associated implementation plan, and Bill Nichols, lead of the SEI's Software Engineering Measurement and Analysis work. They discuss DevSecOps successes in the DoD and opportunities for scaling its impact.

Deploying on the Edge May 28, 2025

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Deploying cloud-centric technologies such as Kubernetes in edge environments poses challenges, especially for mission-critical defense systems. In this podcast from the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute (SEI), Patrick Earl, Doug Reynolds, and Jeffrey Hamed, all DevOps engineers in the SEI's Software Solutions Division, sit down with senior reesearcher Jose Morales to discuss a recent case study involving the deployment of a hypervisor onto edge devices in a resource-constrained environment.

The Best and Brightest: 6 Years of Supporting the President's Cup Cybersecurity Competition May 12, 2025

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A strong cyber defense is vital to public- and private-sector activities in the United States. In 2019, in response to an executive order to strengthen America's cybersecurity workforce, the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) partnered with the SEI to develop and run the President's Cup Cybersecurity Competition, a national cyber competition that identifies and rewards the best cybersecurity talent in the federal workforce. In six years, more than 8,000 people have taken part in the President's Cup. In this podcast from the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute (SEI), Jarrett Booz, technical lead for the President's Cup, and John DiRicco, a training specialist in the SEI's CERT Division, sit down with Matthew Butkovic, the CERT technical director of cyber risk and resilience, to reflect on six years of hosting the cup, including challenges, lessons learned, the path forward, and publicly available resources.

Updating Risk Assessment in the CERT Secure Coding Standard Apr 17, 2025

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Evaluating source code to ensure secure coding qualities costs time and effort and often involves static analysis. But those who are familiar with static analysis tools know that the alerts are not always reliable and produce false positives that must be detected and disregarded. This year, we plan on making some exciting updates to the SEI CERT C Coding Standard to better harmonize with the current state of the art for static analysis tools as well as simplify the process of source code security auditing. In this SEI podcast, David Svobodaand Joseph Sible, both engineers in CERT's Applied Systems Group and primary developers and maintainers of the standard, sit down with Robert Schiela, deputy technical director of the Cybersecurity Foundations Directorate in CERT, to discuss the proposed changes, specifically in the area of risk assessment.

Delivering Next Generation Cyber Capabilities to the DoD Warfighter Apr 15, 2025

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In this podcast from the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute (SEI), Gregory Touhill, director of the SEI CERT Division, sits down with Matthew Butkovic, technical director of Cyber Risk and Resilience at CERT, to discuss ways in which CERT researchers and technologists are working to deliver rapid capability to warfighters in the Department of Defense.

Getting the Most Out of Your Insider Risk Data with IIDES Mar 26, 2025

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Insider incidents cause around 35 percent of data breaches, creating financial and security risks for organizations. In this podcast from the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute, Austin Whisnant and Dan Costa discuss the Insider Incident Data Expression Standard (IIDES), a new schema for collecting and sharing data about insider incidents. IIDES facilitates insider incident information handling to help organizations better protect themselves against the compromise of sensitive information and mission-critical systems, which is essential to maintaining national security and defense.

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