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    So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast

    So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast takes an uncensored look at the world of free expression through the law, philosophy, and stories that define your right to free speech. Hosted by FIRE’s Nico Perrino.

    New episodes post every other week.

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    Ep. 98 'The First Amendment in the Trump Era' w/ Professor Timothy Zick Nov 14, 2019
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    On today's episode of So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast, we are joined by William & Mary Law School Professor Timothy Zick to discuss his new book, "The First Amendment in the Trump Era."

    www.sotospeakpodcast.com Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org


    Ep. 97 There's no such thing as free speech, argues Stanley Fish Oct 31, 2019
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    Does free speech exist?

    According to Cardozo Law Professor Stanley Fish, it does not.

    On today's episode of So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast, we dig into what the colorful professor means by this assertion and discuss his forthcoming book, "The First: How to Think About Hate Speech, Campus Speech, Religious Speech, Fake News, Post-Truth, and Donald Trump."

    Show notes:

    • Podcast transcript
    • "There's No Such Thing As Free Speech: And It's a Good Thing, Too" by Stanley Fish
    • "Areopagitica" by John Milton
    • "Leviathan" by Thomas Hobbes
    • New York Times v. Sullivan (1964)
    • "Absence of Malice" (1981) movie
    • "Inherit the Wind" (1960) movie
    • "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions" by Thomas S. Kuhn
    • "In defense of the NBA: The league has every right to come down hard on critics of China who work for it" by Stanley Fish

    www.sotospeakpodcast.com Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org


    Ep. 96 Who was Hayden C. Covington? Oct 17, 2019
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    He brought 45 First Amendment cases to the United States Supreme Court between 1939 and 1955. His success rate before the court was second only to future Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall. He handled as many as 50 major cases a year and is responsible for much of the First Amendment doctrine we take for granted today. Who was this man — and why have most free speech scholars and activists never heard of him?

    On today's episode of So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast, we discuss the life and legacy of Hayden C. Covington, who for many years was legal counsel for the Jehovah's Witnesses. We are joined by distinguished First Amendment scholar and recurring So to Speak guest Ronald K.L. Collins. Collins is the author of the Florida International University Law Review article "Thoughts on Hayden C. Covington and the Paucity of Litigation Scholarship."

    Show notes:

    • Podcast transcript
    • Video of podcast interview
    • "Thoughts on Hayden C. Covington and the Paucity of Litigation Scholarship" by Ronald K.L. Collins
    • Cases discussed: Minersville School District v. Gobitis (1940), Chaplinksy v. New Hampshire (1942), West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette (1943), Virginia State Board of Pharmacy v. Virginia Citizens Consumer Council (1976)
    • Ronald K.L. Collins' First Amendment News
    • "First Things First: A Modern Coursebook on Free Speech Fundamentals" by Ronald K.L. Collins, Will Creeley, and David Hudson (managing editor, Jackie Farmer)
    • "We Must Not Be Afraid to Be Free: Stories of Free Expression in America" by Ronald K.L Collins & Sam Chaltain

    www.sotospeakpodcast.com Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org


    Ep. 95 Twenty years of FIRE with co-founder Harvey Silverglate Oct 03, 2019
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    In 1999, criminal defense attorney Harvey Silverglate joined with University of Pennsylvania Professor Alan Charles Kors to found the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education.

    On today's episode of So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast, we connect with Silverglate at his office in Cambridge, Mass. to discuss FIRE's founding, the origins of his interest in campus civil liberties, and what he sees for his creation's future.

    Join FIRE in celebrating our 20th anniversary in New York City on Oct. 24. The event will feature a keynote address from author Salman Rushdie.

    Show notes:

    • Podcast transcript
    • Short, FIRE-produced documentary about Harvey Silverglate
    • "The Shadow University: The Betrayal of Liberty on America's Campuses" by Alan Charles Kors and Harvey Silverglate
    • "Three Felonies A Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent" by Harvey Silverglate

    www.sotospeakpodcast.com Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org


    Ep. 94 Kevin Williamson's 'The Smallest Minority' Sep 16, 2019
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    On today's episode of So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast, journalist Kevin Williamson joins us to discuss his new book, "The Smallest Minority: Independent Thinking in the Age of Mob Politics."

    Williamson is the roving correspondent for National Review and co-host of the podcast Mad Dogs & Englishmen.

    Show notes:

    • Podcast transcript
    • "When the Twitter Mob Came for Me" by Kevin Williamson
    • FIRE's High School Curriculum
    • FIRE's Free Speech Essay Contest

    www.sotospeakpodcast.com Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org


    Ep. 93 'Coddling' one year later Sep 05, 2019
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    One year ago this week, "The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure" was published.

    On today's episode of So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast, we sit down with FIRE President & CEO Greg Lukianoff, who co-authored the book with Jonathan Haidt, to reflect on what's changed — or hasn't changed — in the intervening year.

    Show notes:

    • TheCoddling.com
    • "College suggests students respond to 'offensive' language with 'ouch!'"
    • Media coverage of Greg's talk in Italy (in Italian)
    • "Five ways university presidents can prove their commitment to free speech" by Greg Lukianoff
    • Study: "The Hidden Tribes of America"
    • Documentary: "Can We Take a Joke?"

    Greg's book references/recommendations:

    • "Our Kids: The American Dream in Crisis" by Robert Putnam
    • "Love, Money & Parenting" by Matthias Doepke and Fabrizio Zilibotti
    • "Achtung Baby" by Sara Zaske
    • "So You've Been Publicly Shamed" by Jon Ronson

    www.sotospeakpodcast.com Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org


    Ep. 92 Free speech, privacy, and President Trump's Twitter account w/ Alex Abdo Aug 22, 2019
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    On today's episode of So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast, we are joined by Knight First Amendment Institute Litigation Director Alex Abdo to discuss free speech, privacy, and President Donald Trump's Twitter account.

    Show notes:

    • Podcast transcript
    • "Why Rely on the Fourth Amendment To Do the Work of the First?"
    • "Knight Institute v. Trump — lawsuit challenging President Trump's blocking of critics on Twitter"

    www.sotospeakpodcast.com Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org


    Ep. 91 'The Grievance Studies Affair' Aug 08, 2019
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    Last fall, three writers and scholars announced they had submitted 20 fake papers to academic journals to test whether — as they suspected — certain fields of study lacked scientific and academic rigor.

    Of the 20 papers they submitted before revealing their hoax, seven were accepted, four published, seven were "still in play," and six were retired. The result is what's become known as the "Grievance Studies Affair."

    But what does their experiment prove, exactly?

    On today's episode of So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast, we put this question directly to Jim Lindsay, Helen Pluckrose, and Peter Boghossian, who authored the controversial papers.

    Show notes:

    • "Academic Grievance Studies and the corruption of scholarship"
    • "Academics expose corruption in Grievance Studies" (documentary video)
    • "What the 'Grievance Studies Hoax' means"
    • "Portland State says researcher violated the rights of the editors he duped"

    www.sotospeakpodcast.com Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org


    Ep. 90 'David French-ism' Jul 24, 2019
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    National Review senior writer and former FIRE President David French has become an "-ism."

    On today's episode of So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast, French joins us to discuss "David French-ism" and "the battle dividing conservatives" over civil liberties.

    Also joining us is FIRE's current President & CEO Greg Lukianoff, author of The New York Times bestseller "The Coddling of the American Mind," due out in paperback on Aug. 20.

    Show notes:

    • Podcast transcript
    • Podcast video
    • "Against David French-ism" by Sohrab Ahmari
    • "In defense of French-ism" by David French
    • "Against conservative cultural defeatism" by David French
    • "How free speech died on campus" by Sohrab Ahmari
    • Greg's book recommendations: "The Shadow University" by Alan Kors and Harvey Silverglate, "Mere civility" by Teresa Bejan, "The Hollow Men" by Charles Sykes

    www.sotospeakpodcast.com Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org


    Ep. 89 Prof. Samuel Abrams wrote an op-ed encouraging viewpoint diversity. Then came the fallout. Jul 11, 2019
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    His office door was vandalized. He was accused of causing "harm" to his "college community." There was even a demand — supported by dozens of his faculty peers — to review his tenure.Why? Because he wrote an op-ed in The New York Times arguing for more viewpoint diversity at his campus.

    On today's episode of So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast, Sarah Lawrence College professor Samuel Abrams joins us to discuss the response to his op-ed and the future of academic freedom, viewpoint diversity, and the role of faculty in college life.Also joining us is FIRE President & CEO Greg Lukianoff, author of The New York Times bestseller "The Coddling of the American Mind," due out in paperback edition on Aug. 20.

    Show notes:

    • "Think professors are liberal? Try school administrators" by Samuel Abrams
    • "When students want to review a tenured professor"
    • "DEMANDS: Westlands sit-in 50 years of shame"
    • "Faculty members need to reassert themselves as the people who direct discourse on campus (opinion)" by Samuel Abrams
    • Viewpoint diversity on campus: A Heterodox Academy & FIRE panel discussion

    www.sotospeakpodcast.com Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/freespeechtalk Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sotospeakpodcast Email us: sotospeak@thefire.org


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