So Curious!

Digital Twins, Lizard Feet, and Artificial Intelligence Jan 09, 2025

Join us for a special bonus episode of So Curious! as we explore the intersection of science, technology, and health in celebration of The Franklin Institute’s new Body Odyssey exhibit.

Host The Bul Bey dives into thought-provoking conversations with three incredible guests. Dr. Harvey Rubin sheds light on how artificial intelligence is transforming medicine, from diagnosing rare diseases to designing digital twins of cities. Dr. Tonia Hsieh takes us into the fascinating world of biomechanics, explaining how the movements of lizards and other animals inspire breakthroughs in robotics and prosthetics. And Dr. Jayatri Das, chief bioscientist at The Franklin Institute, connects the dots, offering insights into how emerging technologies like AI are shaping the future of health and healthcare.

Packed with curiosity, big questions, and inspiring ideas, this episode is your invitation to think differently about the world around—and within—you.

Learn more about the Body Odyssey exhibit and get tickets at FI.edu.

The Curious Cosmos with Derrick Pitts (A So Curious Bonus Episode) Sep 05, 2023

In a special bonus episode of So Curious, Bey and Kirsten are joined by Derrick Pitts, Chief Astronomer and Director of the Fels Planetarium at the Franklin Institute!

The three discuss how Derrick came to be in the field of astronomy, what being in space would actually be like, how sci-fi shapes our understanding of outer space, and so much more.

Be sure to check out Derrick's new podcast, The Curious Cosmos, for more amazing space talk! New episodes will be released every Tuesday throughout the fall.

Let's Dance! Why Music Makes Us Move Aug 22, 2023

Hope you have your dancing shoes on, because in this final episode of So Curious' 4th season, Bey and Kirsten explore the science behind why music makes us dance!

First, they sit down with McMaster post-doctoral fellow Dr. Daniel Cameron to learn about his research into rhythm and the brain. Then, the two are joined by Dr. Jayatri Das, Chief Bioscientist of The Franklin Institute, to explore the incredible ways dance incorporates various sensory systems in our bodies. And to close out the season, Bey and Kirsten are joined by Philadelphia's DJ Phreakwency to explore the history of dance music, the experience of being a DJ, and what in his experience gets the crowd moving!

Links for Today's Episode:

Learn more about Dr. Daniel Cameron and the research he's part of at McMaster University into rhythm and the brain
Check out DJ Phreakwency and his monthly dance party, Bass Down Low, at The Dolphin in Philadelphia.

Science in Concert: How Musical Performance Works Aug 15, 2023

This week, So Curious takes to the stage! Exploring how and why humans play and perform music.

First, Bey and Kirsten sit down with jazz educator and researcher Dr. Martin Norgaard to learn about jazz improvisation, and what happens in the brain while musicians are improvising. Then, the two are joined by Dr. Jayatri Das for another Body of Knowledge segment, this time to explore the physiology of singing and why we find songs so moving. And to round out the episode, veteran music teacher Beth Carson joins to discuss her years in the classroom, the importance of music education, what it's like to teach young children to perform.

Links for Today's episode:

Learn more about Dr. Martin Norgaard and his research into musical improvisation in the brain
Explore those singing-responsive brain cells Jayatri spoke about further
Listen to that moving performance of Creep on America's Got Talent that Kirsten referenced
Check out the composer bust of Beth Carson that one of her students made of her

Wild Voices: In Tune with the Animal Kingdom Aug 08, 2023

This season of So Curious, we've talked plenty about the music humans make. But what about the music made by other animals?

First, Bey and Kirsten sit down with birdsong researcher Dr. Stephen Nowicki to learn the surprising science behind how and why birds sing. Then, the two are joined by Dr. Lori Marino to explore the songs and sounds of dolphins and whales. And to close the episode, inter-species musician David Rothenberg joins to speak about the music he makes in collaboration with animals, from his philosophy behind doing so to the logistics of playing music deep in the wilderness.

Links for Today's Episode:

Learn more about Dr. Stephen Nowicki and the work of his bird communication research lab
Learn more about Dr. Lori Marino and her work with The Whale Sanctuary Project
Learn more about David Rothenberg and listen to more of his music
To delve deeper into the world of inter-species musicians, check out the work of Paul Winter and R. Murray Schafer

Remember That Song? Music and Memory Aug 01, 2023

We all have memories closely tied to music in our life - but why are those connections so strong?

In today's episode of So Curious, Bey and Kirsten look to get to the bottom of this question. First, the two sit down with memory expert Dr. Andrew Budson to learn how memory works in the brain, and the many ways music interacts with that. Then, they speak with head of Northern Illinois University's Marketing program, Dr. Vijaykumar Krishnan Palghat, to learn about sonic logos and the surprising ways music and sound is used in the world of branding. From music as treatment for Alzheimer's disease, to why we can all sing the Nokia ringtone long after the brand disapeared, we're digging deep into why music makes us remember.

Links for Today's Episode:

Learn more about Dr. Andrew Budson, and check out his new book, Why We Forget and How to Remember Better: The Science Behind Memory
Check out this CBS Sunday Morning feature on Glenn Campbell's final tour, where he was performing late into his battle with Alzheimer's disease.
Learn more about Dr. Vijay Krishnan and his sonic branding research
Check out the full clip of Indian Classical violin used in the episode.

The Music-Language Link Jul 25, 2023

We've all heard the phrase "music is the universal language," but what if that music/language connection went deeper than we thought?

First, hosts Kirsten and Bey speak with Dr. Ani Patel, the leading expert on the link between language and music in the brain, to learn about his research and the surprising links that have been found between the two. Then, our hosts sit down with Philly-based hip hop artist A.Rob to chat about how language and music interact in the world of rap, from the concept of flow to his experience as a bilingual rapper.

Links for today's episode:

Learn more about Dr. Ani Patel
Check out the Sound Health Network's resources on music's use in healthcare
Learn more about A.Rob, and check out his music!
Further info on the ancient Arabic rap-battles A.Rob mentioned, a traditional form of poetry known as Zajal

In Tune With the Body: Music in Athletic Performance and Healthcare Jul 18, 2023

This season, we've already looked at how music can affect our mental health, but what about our physical health?

To explore this question, Bey and Kirsten sit down with sports psychologist Professor Costas Karageorghis to learn how music can improve athletic performance, including how to build your ideal workout playlist, according to science! Then, professional musician and Curtis Institute professor Mary Javian joins to discuss how music is being used to improve the world of healthcare for both patients to doctors.

Links for Today's Episode:

Learn more about Prof. Costas Karageorghis, and check out the textbook he wrote on the topic, Applying Music in Exercise and Sport
Listen to Michael Phelps' pre-race playlist
Learn more about Mary Javian
Explore Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs further

Music of the Future: Tech Innovations and Inventions Jul 11, 2023

In the future, how will we make and experience music?

In today's episode, Bey and Kirsten speak with some of the folks inventing that future. First, they sit down with with Dr. Jason Freeman to learn about (and hear samples from!) Georgia Tech's annual Guthman Musical Instrument Competition, an international contest showcasing newly invented instruments. Then, it's time for a field trip! So Curious goes on the road to visit Dr. Youngmoo Kim and his colleagues at Drexel University's Music and Entertainment Technology Lab. From vests that allow the deaf to experience music through their skin, to AI that can create music from noise, check out some of the incredible tech innovations being developed right here in Philadelphia!

Links for today's episode:

Learn more about Dr. Jason Freeman, and check out the Guthman Musical Instrument Competition's page to watch videos of the instruments entered in the competition! All audio of competition instruments courtesy of Georgia Tech
Check out the Musical Instrument Collection at The Met to explore the history of instrument design.
Learn more about Dr. Youngmoo Kim, his Music and Entertainment Technology Lab, and the ExCITe Center at Drexel University
Check out more about the Magnetic Resonator Piano
Learn more about Daniel Belquer and his project, Music: Not Impossible and the work they've done with Mandy Harvey, a deaf musician and finalist on The Voice
Check out Beacon Street Studios, who made the music used in the vest demonstration
Learn more about Charis Cochran and her Phd work on music AI

The Musical Mind: Synesthesia, Auditory Illusions, and Brain Function Jul 04, 2023

The human brain is amazingly complex, and full of fun little oddities when it comes to how it interacts with music!

To explore some of these quirks, Bey and Kirsten sit down with one of the founders of the field of music cognition, Dr. Robert Zatorre from McGill University, to talk everything from perfect pitch to how we can hear songs in our head. Then, they're joined by Dr. Jayatri Das, chief bioscientist at the Franklin Institute, for another Body of Knowledge segment, this time exploring the science behind auditory illusions and misheard lyrics! And to round out the episode, Bey and Kirsten chat with Philadelphia-based composer Andrea Clearfield to learn about her experience with synesthesia, and how seeing colors when she hears music (and vice versa) affects her creative process.

Links for today's episode:

Learn more about Dr. Rober Zatorre
Check out some more examples of auditory illusion from The Franklin Institute!
The infamous dress that divided the internet, what colors do you see?
Learn more about Andrea Clearfield, and the two specific compositions she shared; Cal-3, based on the music she heard when she saw Heiner Riepl's paining, and her opera, MILA, Great Sorcerer
Have your own experiences with synesthesia, or anything else you want to share? Email us at socurious@fi.edu

Sound Medicine: Music and Mental Health Jun 27, 2023

We've all had music affect our mood, but how can the emotional power of music be harnessed to treat mental health?

Today, Bey and Kirsten speak with two mental health professionals to learn about how music is incorporated into their practices. First, the two sit down with Dr. Marisol Norris to explore the field of music therapy, even trying out an exercise together! Then, they speak with intergenerational trauma expert Dr. Mariel Buqué to learn about her therapy practice and how she incorporates sound baths into her work.

Links for today's episode:

Learn more about Dr. Marisol Norris and her group, The Black Music Therapy Network, Inc.
Learn more about Dr. Mariel Buqué and her upcoming book, Break the Cycle

Resources for today's episode:

NAMI for general, non crisis mental health needs/resources
Text 'HOME" to 741-741 for NAMI Philadelphia's crisis text line
Black Emotional and Mental Health Collective, Therapy for Black Girls, and Black Mental Health Alliance for BIPOC mental health resources/directories for culturally competent care

The Sound of Music: Timbre, Synthesizers, and Orchestration Jun 20, 2023

The hills are alive... with curiosity! Why do instruments "sound" different from one another, and how do we respond to the different sounds we hear?

To explore these questions, Bey and Kirsten speak with music perception researcher Dr. Stephen McAdams, going in depth about timbre, orchestration, and the ways we perceive tone qualities. Then, the two sit down with electronic musician and educator Ben Runyan to learn about the history and technology behind synthesizers, including a live jam session!

Links for today's episode:

Learn more about Dr. McAdams and his work with the ACTOR Project
Check out a video of Snowball the cockatoo dancing to the Backstreet Boys!
Learn more about Ben Runyan, and check out his recording project, City Rain
Want to try your own hand at synthesizers? Check out SynthHacker's Youtube tutorials, along with this free online synth!

The Origins of Music: From Evolution to Acoustics Jun 13, 2023

Why does music exist?

It's a big question, so Bey and Kirsten turn to the past for answers! They sit down with evolutionary biologist Dr. David George Haskell, ethnomusicologist Dr. Carol Muller, and acoustician Philip Faraci, exploring the ways anatomy, culture, and physics have shaped music over time.

Links for Today's Episode:

Learn more about Dr. George Haskell and his book Sounds Wild and Broken, a 2023 Pulitzer finalist!
Learn more about Dr. Carol Muller and follow your curiosity to learn more about some topics she referenced, like music cognition expert Henkjan Honing, the Rorogwela Lullaby's evolution into an electronic hit, the Griot musical tradition from West Africa, and check out some South African jazz from Hugh Masekela
Learn more about Philip Faraci, learn more about Indian ragas, and listen to a full raga performance by Ravi Shankar , Ali Akbar Khan And Alla Rakha

I Love This Song! Music Taste and the Brain Jun 06, 2023

So Curious is back! And to kick off this season on the science of music, we're looking at a question we've all asked before; why do we like the music we like?

To get to the bottom of this, Bey and Kirsten sit down with three experts across the fields of music cognition, psychology, and audio engineering to explore the ways our brains, personality, and experiences help shape musical preferences.

Links for today’s episode:

Learn more about Dr. Psyche Loui and her research with the MIND Lab
Learn more about Dr. David Greenberg’s work on music, personality, and the brain
Learn more about Dr. Susan Rogers and her book, This Is What It Sounds Like

Season 4 Trailer: The Science of Music May 30, 2023

We all know the feeling of being moved by a song, but have you ever wondered why? The Bul Bey and Kirsten Michelle Cills get to the bottom of this mystery, interviewing experts in neuroscience, acoustics, biology, and musicology. And it’s not all serious - we’re here to entertain! Catch new episodes every Tuesday this summer!

What Does It Mean To Be "Well"? The Science Behind the Buzzword Mar 28, 2023

Just like anything else, the mental health world is susceptible to buzzwords. Lately, the term "wellness" has been tossed around everywhere, but what does that word even mean? In the last episode of this season, Bey and Kirsten do what they do best, and turn to science for some answers!

First, the two sit down with cross-cultural wellness researcher Dr. June Kim for some definitions. Then, Dr. Glenn Fox joins to share his work, scientifically measuring the affect practicing gratitude can have on our mental health. And to close out the season, Bey and Kirsten chat with Malaika Gilpin, co-founder and director of the One Art Community Center in West Philly, to learn some of the practical ways they help promote wellness in the local community.

Links for Today's Episode:

Lean more about Dr. June Kim's work at TCNJ
Lean more about Dr. Glenn Fox's gratitude research, and his current focus applying that to entrepreneurship
Learn more about Malaika Gilpin and One Art's mission in West Philly

Resources for Today's Episode:

My Grief Angels for a directory of grief resources
Up the Block for those in Philadelphia affected by gun violence

Life After Loss: The Science of Grief Mar 21, 2023

Inevitably, we all deal with the loss of a loved one, but why is something as universal as grief still so difficult to process? To get some answers from science, Bey and Kirsten sit down with grief researcher Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor to explore how grief affects our brains and bodies. Then, the two chat with creativity expert Natalie Nixon, looking at how creativity can help one to find meaning following a loss. And to round out the episode, Marguerite Nicosia from the Shanthi Project returns with another mindfulness exercise.

Links for Today's Episode:

Learn more about Dr. Mary-Frances O'Connor and her grief research
Learn more about Natalie Nixon and her work
Learn more about the Shanthi Project

Resources for Today's Episode:

My Grief Angels for a directory to resources based on specific form of grief experienced
The National Alliance for Children's Grief for helping kids process grief
NAMI for general mental health support

Food and Mental Health: A Two Way Street Mar 14, 2023

Hope you're hungry! Today's episode is all about food, both how food impacts our mind, and how our mind impacts our relationship with food. To explore how what we eat impacts the way we feel, Bey and Kirsten sit down with psychiatrist Dr. Drew Ramsey to discuss nutritional psychology. Then, the two chat with self described anti-diet dietician and food writer Christine Byrne, investigating the ways language and societal pressure can negatively affect our relationship to food, and how we can combat these stigmas.

Links For Today's Episode:

Learn more about Dr. Ramsey's work
Learn more about Bring Change To Mind's mission to end mental health stigma
Learn more about Christine Byrne's practice and writing

Resources For Today's Episode:

The National Eating Disorders Association offers a call line and various supports on their website
Mental Health America's eating disorder information + support page
Project Heal for support and resources for those seeking eating disorder treatment
the National Alliance on Mental Health for general mental health resources nationwide

Mental Health in the Digital Age: The Good, The Bad, and The Future Mar 07, 2023

From doom scrolling to video games, we're constantly hearing how digital technologies are ruining our mental health, but do these claims hold any credence? To try and get to the bottom of this question, Bey and Kirsten sit down with three different guests - trauma researcher Roxanne Cohen Silver, author Jordan Shapiro, and the Franklin Institute's own Dr. Jayatri Das - to investigate the 24 hour news cycle, fears around kids using new technology, and the potential of chatbots and VR in mental health treatment.

Links for today's episode:

Learn more about Dr. Roxanne Cohen Silver and her extensive research into the effects of stressful news consumption
Learn more about Dr. Jordan Shapiro and his books on parenting in the modern age

Resources for today's episode

988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline
NAMI, for non-crisis mental health needs
VOICES Center for Resilience for support following a mass tragedy

Cracking the Code on Stress: Uncovering Its Effects on Our Mind and Body Feb 28, 2023

We all experience stress, but what is it exactly? And how does it affect our mental health and behavior? Join Bey and Kirsten as they explore the topic with two experts in the field. First, they chat with Dr. Jeremy Jamieson to understand how stress can impact decision-making and even be beneficial at times. Then, they dive into the science behind stress with Dr. Jenna Rieder, learning how it interacts with hormones in our bodies. Get ready to uncover the secrets of stress and how it affects us!

Links for Today's Episode:

Learn more about Dr. Jeremy Jamieson and his Social Stress Research Lab
Learn more about Dr. Jenna Rieder

Beyond Happy Pills: A Science-Based Exploration of Mental Health Medication Feb 21, 2023

For years, medication has been used to treat mental health conditions, but have you ever wondered how it actually works? In this fascinating discussion, Bey and Kirsten sit down with Dr. A. John Rush to dive into the world of antidepressants. From popular SSRIs to cutting-edge laser treatments, they explore how these drugs affect the brain and help people manage their mental health.

Then, we turn to the future of mental health treatment. Dr. Rebecca Brachman joins in to discuss her groundbreaking research on preventative medication. Is it possible to take a pill that would ward off depression and anxiety before they even start? Tune in to find out.

Links for Today's Episode:

Learn more about Dr. A John Rush's work

Learn more about Dr. Rebecca Brachman's work

Chemical Messengers and Brain Builders: Unlocking the Secrets of Hormones and Genes Feb 14, 2023

In this episode, explore the intriguing world of hormones with Dr. Randi Hutter Epstein and learn about the link between genes and neurodevelopmental disorders with Dr. Michael Gandal. Discover how these impact our mental health and the new treatments being developed. Get ready for a fascinating journey!

Links for Today's Epsiode:

Learn more about Dr Randi Hutter Epstein and her witty writings exploring medical history
Learn more about Dr Michael Gandal and his research lab

Decoding Mental Health: Breaking Down the Labels and Language We Use Feb 07, 2023

Join us as we delve into the complex world of mental health and explore the meanings behind labels like PTSD, OCD, and ADHD. What do these terms really signify, and are they helpful or harmful? In this episode, Dr. Jayatri Das helps break down the definitions, while Becca Lane sheds light on how language can shape our perceptions of mental health. Get ready for a thought-provoking discussion on this crucial topic!

Resources for Today's Episode:

988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline
NAMI, for non-crisis mental health needs
The Alliance of Hope and Suicide Awareness Voices of Education, for support following suicide loss
Carson's Village, for support following the sudden loss of a loved one

Links for Today's Episode:

Learn more about NAMI Philadelphia
Check out NAMI Philly's podcast, The YANApodcast

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Paws for Mental Health: Exploring the Power of Animals and Environment on our Wellbeing Jan 31, 2023

Join us for an eye-opening discussion on the diverse forms of support for mental health! In this episode, we speak with Jerome Shabazz about the powerful impact of the environment on our wellbeing. From the air we breathe to the neighborhoods we live in, every aspect of our surroundings can play a role in our mental health. Then, Bey & Kirsten talk with service dog trainer Mark Ruefenacht to learn about the amazing benefits of animal-assisted therapy. From reducing stress and anxiety to boosting our mood and sense of connection, these furry companions have a unique ability to improve our mental health and wellbeing.

Resources for Today's Episode:

988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline
NAMI, for non-crisis mental health needs
The Alliance of Hope and Suicide Awareness Voices of Education, for support following suicide loss
Carson's Village, for support following the sudden loss of a loved one

Links for today's guests:

Lear more about Jerome Shabazz and the Overbrook Environmental Education Center
Learn more about Mark Ruefenacht and the National Institute of Canine Service and Training

Unpacking the Link Between Identity and Mental Health Jan 24, 2023

In this thought-provoking episode, we explore the fascinating interplay between identity and mental health. Join Bey and Kirsten as they sit down with photojournalist Octavio Jones to discuss his powerful work on black men's mental health, and Grace Molloy, an LGBTQ-focused therapist, who sheds light on the unique challenges facing the queer community. Get ready for a deep dive into the complex ways that our identities shape our mental wellbeing!

Links for this episode:

Learn more about Octavio Jones
Learn more about Grace Molloy

The Science and Psychology of Emotions: Insights from Experts Jan 17, 2023

Discover the fascinating connection between emotions and the body in this episode! Dr. Jayatri Das, chief bioscientist at The Franklin Institute, shares her Body of Knowledge insights on the physiological aspects of feeling. Plus, social worker Brie Wildau provides a psychological perspective on understanding emotions.

Links for this episode:

Learn more about Dr. Jayatri Das
Learn more about Brie Wildau

From Ancient Beliefs to Modern Understanding: The Evolution of Mental Health Jan 10, 2023

In this season kickoff episode, Bey and Kirsten chat with Penn State professor Dr. Greg Eghigian, who shares his insights on how mental health has been perceived and treated throughout the ages. Plus, we'll hear from Marguerite Nicosia of the Shanthi project on a mindfulness technique to reset the vagus nerve.

Links for this episode:

Learn more about Dr. Greg Eghigian
Learn more about the Shanthi Project

Is Marriage Worth It? (A So Curious! Classic Episode) Dec 27, 2022

In this episode, Kirstin and Bey are talking all about the marriage. Historian Dr. Rebecca Davis shares about her research in how the institution of marriage has changed over the years. Later on the episode, Dr. Das shares her research on how mammals create relationships with one another.

Links for this episode:

Learn more about Dr. Rebecca Davis
Learn more about Dr. Jayatri Das
Read a transcript of this episode

How Do Dating Algorithms Make Us Feel? (A So Curious! Classic Episode) Dec 27, 2022

You know that feeling you get when you get a match on tinder? This week, Kirsten and Bey talk with expert Dr. Alina Liu about how the video game style structure of dating apps affects our psyche. Later, we hear from Geoff Cook, the founder of the famous dating platform MeetMe. Geoff shares how using live streaming video breaks the artificial barrier that usually comes along with dating apps. Finally, we finish this episode hearing from an ACTUAL couple about their relationship story.

Links for this episode:

Learn more about Dr. Alina Liu
Learn more about Geoff Cook
Read a transcript of this episode

First Impressions: From Frog Sex to Gaydar, What’s the Science? (A So Curious! Classic Episode) Dec 20, 2022

(RE-POST from Season 1) In this episode, hosts Kirsten and Bey kick this season off how all podcasts should - by diving deep into the world of frog sex. Biologist Dr. Alex Baugh shares how frogs make mate choices and introduces us to one of his many frog subjects. Later in the episode, we sit down with Franklin Institute’s chief bioscientist, Dr. Jayatri Das, to talk about popular ideas and research in the science world surrounding our first impressions in relationships. Burning question: is gaydar a real thing?

Links for this episode:

Learn more about Dr. Jayatri Das

Learn more about Dr. Alex Baugh

Read a transcript of this episode

Season 3 Trailer: The Science of Mental Health Dec 20, 2022

We're back! Here's a preview of whats to come on our new season.

Ghosting: How Rejection Affects Our Bodies & Brains Sep 06, 2022

On the final episode for this season, we are talking all about ghosting. Kirstin and Bey sit down with Dr. Gili Freedman to discuss her work in studying the impact of rejection. They discuss the best ways to reject someone and what is going on physiologically when we feel rejected. Finally, we end this episode talking to Philadelphia street artist Amberella.

Links for this episode:

Learn more about Dr. Gili Freedman
Learn more about Amberella
Read episode transcript

Is Marriage Worth It? Aug 30, 2022

In this episode, Kirstin and Bey are talking all about the marriage. Historian Dr. Rebecca Davis shares about her research in how the institution of marriage has changed over the years. Later on the episode, Dr. Das shares her research on how mammals create relationships with one another.

Links for this episode:

Learn more about Dr. Rebecca Davis
Learn more about Dr. Jayatri Das
Read a transcript of this episode

How Porn Affects Our Brains Aug 23, 2022

In this episode, Kirstin and Bey are talking about the effect porn has on the brain. They are joined by neuroscientist Dr. Mateusz Gola, as he discusses his research in how porn addiction.

Links for this episode:

Learn more about Dr. Mateusz Gola
Read episode transcript

Beyond Monogamy: Exploring Ethical Relationships and Sexual Fulfillment Aug 16, 2022

Join Kirstin and Bey on a journey to understand how love and relationships are evolving. Dr. Jorge Ferrer talks about transcending monogamy, and Janet Hardy shares insights on ethical relationships and sexual fulfillment from her book, 'The Ethical Slut.' Are we breaking free from traditional norms?

Links for this episode:

Learn more about Janet Hardy
Learn more about Dr. Jorge Ferrer
Read a transcript of this episode

Sex Ed: In Our Classrooms, Communities and Culture Aug 09, 2022

On this episode, Kirstin and Bey talk with writer and speaker Jaclyn Friedman about her book, "Yes Means Yes" and how the shift in sexual culture over the past 10 years has happened. Later in this episode, health educator Janielle Bryan breaks down what sex ed curriculums look like today and her project researching what sex means to marginalized communities.

Links for this episode:

Learn more about Janielle Bryan
Learn more about Jaclyn Friedman
Read episode transcript

Relationships in the Media Aug 02, 2022

On this episode of So Curious, Kirstin and Bey are talking about being single with Dr. Jessica D Moorman. Dr. Moorman talks about her interview based study, "Being Single Is...". Later in the episode, Kirstin and Bey are joined by Dr. Valerie Kretz about how relationships are portrayed in the media and its affect on our understandings of interpersonal relationships. They also discuss the phenomenon of parasocial relationships, or the relationships we develop with fictitious characters in television or movies.

Links for this episode:

Learn more about Dr. Jessica D. Moorman
Learn more about Dr. Valerie Kretz

Sexual Health and Medicine Access: A Roundtable Discussion Jul 26, 2022

In this episode, Kirstin and Bey are joined by associate professor of anatomy and neurobiology Dr. Jonathan Wisco and a few of his students. We will be hearing about what the next generation is focusing on in terms of providing equal care for people with different gender and sexual identities. Please note: This episode was recorded prior to the overturning of Roe v Wade.

Links for this episode:

Learn more about Dr. Jonathan Wisco
Read episode transcript

Quantifying Love: The Biology of Romantic Love Jul 19, 2022

What is REALLY happening when we fall in love? In this episode we talk with the person who revolutionized the science behind romantic love- Dr. Lucy Brown talks with us about how she conducts groundbreaking research that measures romantic love. Later in the episode, Lucy and Tamar talk about their relationship story. If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave us a rating!

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Learn more about Lucy Brown
Learn more about Lucy

Hookup Culture in Today's World Jul 12, 2022

In this episode, Kirsten and Bey talk to the VP of Communication for Grindr, Patrick Lenihan. Patrick shares how Grindr became a popular hub for gay people to meet, chat, and hook up. Later in the episode, Dr. Jayatri Das is back with her findings on hook-up culture in today's world.

Links for this episode:

Learn more about Grindr
Learn more about Dr. Jayatri Das
Read a transcript of this episode

How Do Dating Apps Make Us Feel? Connecting Through Algorithms Jul 05, 2022

You know that feeling you get when you get a match on tinder? This week, Kirsten and Bey talk with expert Dr. Alina Liu about how the video game style structure of dating apps affects our psyche. Later, we hear from Geoff Cook, the founder of the famous dating platform MeetMe. Geoff shares how using live streaming video breaks the artificial barrier that usually comes along with dating apps. Finally, we finish this episode hearing from an ACTUAL couple about their relationship story.

Links for this episode:

Learn more about Dr. Alina Liu
Learn more about Geoff Cook
Read a transcript of this episode

Tech & Relationships: Dates in the Metaverse, Sex Robots, and AI Sex Toys: Is this the Future? Jun 28, 2022

You might like robots, but do you LOVE robots? In this episode Kirsten and Bey with expert Dr. Julie Carpenter about how people form attachments to AI. They also break down myths and truths about sex technology. Later on Dr. Liesel Sharabi teaches us all about the impact of technology on our relationships. Are instagram couples really happy? What do dates look like in the metaverse?

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First Impressions: From Frog Sex to Gaydar, What’s the Science? Jun 21, 2022

WE'RE BACK! In this episode, hosts Kirsten and Bey kick this season off how all podcasts should - by diving deep into the world of frog sex. Biologist Dr. Alex Baugh shares how frogs make mate choices and introduces us to one of his many frog subjects. Later in the episode, we sit down with Franklin Institute’s chief bioscientist, Dr. Jayatri Das, to talk about popular ideas and research in the science world surrounding our first impressions in relationships. Burning question: is gaydar a real thing?

Links for this episode:

Learn more about Dr. Jayatri Das

Learn more about Dr. Alex Baugh

Read a transcript of this episode

Season 2 Trailer: Love, Sex and Relationships Jun 14, 2022

We're back! On this season of "So Curious!", we will be talking to experts about the science of love, sex and relationships. Subscribe to this podcast wherever you listen and stay tuned for episodes every Tuesday this summer!

Death Mar 28, 2022

Death. We can’t escape it. In this final episode of our series Angelica and Bey talk with palliative care physician Dr. David Casarett about death, dying, and really everything death-related. Hear from guests throughout the season about how their experience with the science of life shapes their thoughts about death.

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Who Gets to Be a Part of Advancing Science? Mar 21, 2022

Every day, biotechnology is advancing in ways that can change our bodies, our lives, and our society. As this happens, who gets to participate? And what does that mean for science? In this episode, Angelica and Bey discuss access to advancement in science tech with museum designer Dr. Anja Scholze and neuroscience researcher Kyndall Nicholas.

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Dr. Anja Scholz, Program Director, Bio+Design at The Tech Interactive
Kyndall Nicholas, Outreach Director, Black in Neuroscience
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Organ Donation and 3D Printing Human Organs Mar 14, 2022

In this episode, Angelica and Bey talk about artificial organs and 3D printing with Brian Shepard, the CEO of the United Network for Organ Sharing, and Director of Innovation at the Jefferson Health Design Lab, Dr. Robert Pugliese.

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What is Biohacking? From Bodybuilding to Bacterial Shoes Mar 07, 2022

Biohacking is SO many things! In this episode Angelica and Bey talk to two people on each end of the biohacking spectrum: biodesigner Ricky Solorzano and bodybuilder Scott Shunk. Later in the episode, our favorite chief bioscientist Dr. Jayatri Das is back!

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Redefining Health and Wellness with A Dietician and a Farmer Feb 28, 2022

Who’s making the call about what we eat and whether we’re healthy? In this episode, Angelica and Bey talk with Jefferson University dietitian Rabiya Bower and Philadelphia’s Farmer Jawn, Christa Barfield, about the HAES (Health at Every Size) movement, how to combat weight-shaming at the doctor’s office, and how urbanites can be empowered by growing and knowing where our food comes from!

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What’s Fair When it Comes to the Brain? Feb 21, 2022

Let's talk about what's right and wrong when it comes to the brain! In this episode, Angelica and Bey talk about neuroethics with ethicist Dr. Anna Wexler, an ethicist at the University of Pennsylvania. Later in the episode, Jayatri comes back to share her wisdom with us one last time.

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Using Magnetic Fields to Treat Depression Feb 14, 2022

What happens when you send magnetic fields through the brain? Can it help treat depression? In this episode, Angelica and Bey talk with mental health journalist Courtenay Harris Bond about her experience using TMS to treat her depression. Later, we hear from neurologist Dr. Roy Hamilton about how TMS works and what's going on in the brain. To wrap things up, The Franklin Institute's Chief Bioscientist Dr. Jayatri Das is back with more TMS conversations!

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Making Sense of Smell Feb 07, 2022

What are the smells of your childhood? In this episode, Angelica and Bey chat with Dr. Nancy Rawson, Vice President of the Monell Chemical Senses Center, about the deep world of our senses and the future of human smell.

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Really Big Ideas: How Do We Generate them? What Are They? Jan 31, 2022

What goes into developing technology that can help us lead healthier lives–but also fits into our day-to-day lives? Perhaps a person with an idea and a person who can make it come to life? In this episode, Angelica and Bey talk to both sides of innovation- materials scientist Dr. John A Rogers and chief innovation officer at Penn Medicine, Roy Rosin.

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Learn more about Dr. John A. Rogers, The Franklin Institute Awards 2019 Benjamin Franklin Medalist in Materials Engineering
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Making Art & Living Well with Prosthetics and Assistive Tech Jan 23, 2022

“For many people, technology makes things easier. For some people, technology makes things possible!” In this episode, Angelica and Bey chat with the crew at TechOwl about designing life-changing technology for people who need it. Also in this episode, we also talk to Philadelphia artist Mason Carter about his experience using a prosthetic leg.

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Medicine, but Really Personal Jan 22, 2022

Genes! We all have them. In this episode, Angelica and Bey with Dr. Eric Kmiec about how technology and gene information can cater our healthcare experience to an individual's needs. Later in the episode, Dr. Jayatri Das is back to add her thoughts about the future of personalized medicine.

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Learn more about The Gene Editing Institute
Learn more about CRISPR
Meet Dr. Eric Kmiec
Meet Dr. Jayatri Das
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What do you think of Adderall? Jan 21, 2022

In the inaugural episode of So Curious, our hosts Angelica and Bey talk with neurologist Dr. Erin Conrad about cognitive enhancements. Later in the episode we also sit down with Franklin Institute’s chief bioscientist, Dr. Jayatri Das, to chat more about public perceptions of cognitive enhancers.

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Dr. Conrad's paper: "Attitudes Toward Cognitive Enhancement: The Role of Metaphor and Context"
Learn more about Dr. Jayatri Das
Learn more about Dr. Erin Conrad
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So Curious! Season One Trailer: Human 2.0 Jan 18, 2022

Welcome to So Curious!, a new podcast from The Franklin Institute about the future of Humans 2.0! Dive into the deep end of the science pool to uncover what happens when humans take biology into their own hands. Here’s a preview of what's to come in season one..

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