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What Next - Off the Record: This Bot Was Made for You and Me Oct 02, 2026

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Move over, New Deal; Donald Trump is in his public works era, using tax dollars to give the American people a…chatbot and also what looks like a campaign ad for the president, even though he isn’t running for anything, can’t run again, and also can’t use tax dollars to buy ads for himself. Uh, masterful stroke, sir?

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What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - ChatGPT Doesn't Love You Oct 02, 2026

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A.I. large language models are prompt, attentive, positive and frictionless—in short, much easier to deal with than humans with their own needs, wants, and moods.

But, as long as humans aren’t social creatures by nature, this should be fine, right?

Guest: Sherry Turkle, licensed clinical psychologist and the founding director of MIT's Initiative on Technology and Self.

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Political Gabfest - Meet You at the Hawks Game Oct 01, 2026

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This week, Emily Bazelon, David Plotz, and guest host David Leonhardt discuss the GOP's failed witch hunt against Jack Smith and bizarre moments from the hearing, the Supreme Court's decision to allow the Trump administration's cruel third-country deportations to continue for now and broader issues of immigration and asylum, and the mixed bag of a college sports bill that sidesteps the key question of whether college athletes count as employees.

Here are this week’s chatters:

Emily: A Woman's Work: Reclaiming the Radical History of Mothering by Elinor Cleghorn

David Plotz: Explore D.C.'s Secret Fort with David Plotz; Owen Gleiberman for Variety: ‘Heart of the Beast’ Review: Brad Pitt Is a Veteran Stranded With His Combat Dog in David Ayer’s Stirringly Crafted Survival-in-the-Wild Saga; Paramount Pictures on YouTube: Heart of the Beast | Official Trailer 2

David Leonhardt: ESPN: WNBA playoffs 2026: How the Liberty swept the Lynx and the Fever stayed alive;WNBA Playoffs News 2026

Listener chatter from Dileep Rao in Los Angeles, California: Annie Roth for The New York Times: What Did Jurassic Forests Sound Like? Like This.; J. Gu, F. Montealegre-Z, T. Jonsson, C. Woodrow, E. Celiker, M.N. Islam, J.B. Linde, F.A. Sarria-S, F. Shi, H. Song, D. Robert, & D. Ren, Reconstruction of an extinct soundscape reveals ultrasonic communication in the Jurassic, Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. U.S.A. 123 (36) e2615107123, https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2615107123 (2026).

For this week’s Slate Plus bonus episode, Emily, David, and guest host David Leonhardt discuss the viral story about the infighting over COVID-masking policy at a Massachusetts bar. They explore the long shadow of COVID overhang, hard tradeoffs and how to think about them, and the problematic impulse to eat your own on the left.

Gabfest is coming to Providence, RI on October 21st. Tickets available now!

In the latest Gabfest Reads, David Plotz talks with journalist Annie Lowrey about her new book, The Time Tax: How the Government Wastes Our Time - and How to Fix It, an investigation into the hours Americans lose to broken bureaucracy, from 12-hour tax filings to multiyear waits for housing vouchers and building permits.

Email your chatters, questions, and comments to gabfest@slate.com. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.)

Podcast production by Nina Porzucki

Research by Emily Ditto

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What Next - Who the "Protect College Sports Act" Actually Protects Oct 01, 2026

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Why the NAACP spoke out against the “Protect College Sports Act,” which was just passed by the US Senate—and why the bill is unlikely to get a vote in the House anytime soon.

Guest: Alex Kirshner, Slate contributing writer and co-host of the college football podcast Split Zone Duo.

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What Next - The Cheap Money Era Isn't Coming Back Sep 30, 2026

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In the face of a tariff shock, an energy shock and a fiscal shock, the Fed is opting to raise interest rates. Donald Trump may not like it, but he has only himself to blame.

Guest: Justin Wolfers, Professor of Public Policy and Economics at University of Michigan, host of Platypus Economics.

Podcast production by Evan Campbell, Madeline Thames-Ducharme and Patrick Fort.

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Slate Money - Money Talks: Chasing Ambulances on Wall Street Sep 29, 2026

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In this Money Talks: Emily Peck interviews reporter Ellen Gabler about her New York Times investigation into how Wall Street investors are making money on personal-injury lawsuits that drag on for years—with unsettling consequences for plaintiffs.

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Podcast production by Jessamine Molli.

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What Next - A Hit of Democratic Hopium Sep 29, 2026

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The party that holds the White House always braces for backlash in the midterm elections. But with Donald Trump’s approval rating hitting historic lows and voters furious at his handling of the economy, inflation, and the war in Iran, races that were once considered safe Republican wins are up for grabs.

Guest: David Faris, associate professor of political science at Roosevelt University. He’s also the author of The Kids Are All Left and It’s Time to Fight Dirty.

Podcast production by Evan Campbell, Madeline Thames-Ducharme and Patrick Fort.

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What Next - The Knockdown Dragout Fight for Max Miller's House Seat Sep 28, 2026

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Former labor organizer and iron worker Brian Poindexter embodies the emerging blue-collar, practical-minded Democrat type in the upcoming midterms. While he leads his race for an Ohio district Trump won handily, is that the power of his pitch or the mounting allegations against his opponent?

Guest: Brian Poindexter, Democratic congressional candidate running for Ohio’s 7th district.

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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - Everybody Out of the Pool Sep 26, 2026

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President Trump announced on Truth Social that he was banning CNN, Politico, and MSNow from the White House because he didn't like their coverage. Within days, a federal judge ordered the outlets be reinstated—but the White House dragged its feet. Hours later, reporters were still locked out and a state dinner with President Xi of China went ahead without them. Jameel Jaffer of the Knight First Amendment Institute joins Dahlia Lithwick to explain the First Amendment and due-process arguments at the heart of the case, why the administration's national security justification fell apart in court, and what it means when a president seems indifferent to judicial orders. Together, they trace the broader pattern of press intimidation, including this administration's recent bans on the Associated Press and on Pentagon reporters. And, they discuss something new: news organizations standing together in solidarity for the first time, and why Jaffer thinks we're already living in an authoritarian moment—whether we've noticed or not.

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Slate Money - Fabulous, Beautiful Debt Sep 26, 2026

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This week: The bond market continues to churn with yields spiking globally. Felix Salmon, Elizabeth Spiers, and Emily Peck are joined by Financial Times journalist Robin Wigglesworth, whose new book, A Fabulous Debt: The Epic Story of How Bonds Built the Modern World, feels particularly relevant right now. Robin recounts the research he did for the book and explains why the history of bonds is more interesting than you might think. They also discuss the state of theTreasury market now and, naturally, what makes debt beautiful.

In the Slate Plus episode: The $60 Loaf of Bread

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