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    Oct 13 2026 2 Nephi 1-4:12 by Lori Radman Oct 13, 2026
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    Oct 13 SISDownload Transcript Thank you so much for that prayer. I was just holding in—I feel like I’m kind of prayer needy. If you’ve even glanced at me sideways, I’ve asked for your prayers. There’s been a lot of thought and prayer that went into the decision of whether or not I could accept this calling to teach. I asked my family for some feedback, and I was met with some hesitation, surprisingly. So I asked what the hesitation might be, and I was told that when I’m preparing for lessons, I’m just not that much fun. So that’s definitely something that I’ve added to my prayers—that I can continue to do this and still be fun. But I have received comfort and assurance from the Lord that He will help me. But in addition to praying for me, I have been praying for each of you—each of you that come with whatever it is that you might be carrying at this time. I recognize that you all come for different reasons and different hopes of what you want to gain from this hour of being here. And for this reason, I am so grateful for the Book of Mormon. For what it has to offer, because I know that it is the Book of Mormon that can bring whatever it is that you might be in need of—whatever hope or peace or healing or assurance is found in the Book of Mormon, because it is the Book of Mormon that points us to that true source of hope and healing, which is our Savior, Jesus Christ. I was so inspired by Anita’s first class that she gave when she talked about finding a purpose and a focus in reading and in her scripture study. She commented about how we’re familiar with the stories in the scriptures, it’s something that we know that are comforting to us, but she wanted to challenge herself to read it with a central focus, and I believe she said she read it once focusing on the words of Christ and has since had other focuses and purposes. And when she said this, I knew that was something that I needed and that I wanted to do. I’m also curious if it motivated any of you, and if you have found a central focus or purpose this year in reading. But after deciding that and looking for what my focus might be this year, I was especially intrigued when I heard Jared Halverson talking about Nephi’s purpose in writing the Book of Mormon. In 1 Nephi chapter 6, verse 4, Nephi says, “For the fulness of mine intent is that I may persuade men to come unto the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, and be saved.” So with this, we know that everything that Nephi writes is going to point us towards Jesus Christ. And then Jared Halverson pointed out what he said is Nephi’s thesis statement. This is the first chapter of the Book of Mormon, the very last verse in the first chapter where Nephi says, “But behold, I, Nephi, will show unto you that the tender mercies of the Lord are over all those whom he hath chosen, because of their faith, to make them mighty even unto the power of deliverance.” That was it. That’s my purpose. That’s my focus—to focus on reading and searching these scriptures with the intent of seeing the tender mercies of the Lord. So this week’s assignment was 2 Nephi chapters 1 through 4, and right out of the gate, guess what we find? The tender mercies of the Lord. We have Father Lehi has gathered his children together. He’s getting old. He has some words that he wants to share with his children, and this is what he says: “And now it came to pass that after I, Nephi, had made an end of teaching my brethren, our father, Lehi, also spake many things unto them, and rehearsed unto them, how great things the Lord had done for them in bringing them out of the land of Jerusalem. And he spake unto them concerning their rebellions upon the waters, and the mercies of God in sparing their lives, that they were not swallowed up in the sea. And he also spake unto them concerning the land of promise, which they had obtained—how merciful the Lord had been in warning us that we should flee out of the land of Jerusalem. Why? Because if we had stayed, we would have perished. How merciful is the Lord.” Don’t you think that Lehi is just saying, do you want to see the evidence of God’s love? Do you really want to see how he has never forgotten us, how he’s been with us from the beginning? Look around. Look where you are. We’re here. We are in this land of promise. We are here safely. I get the feeling that Lehi, this father, doesn’t feel as though Laman and Lemuel are focusing on the Lord’s mercies. And it’s hard to blame them. Life hasn’t been easy for them. They’ve experienced every type of physical depravity. It looks nothing like what they had hoped. Do you ever get caught in this cycle of focusing on what’s not going right? Is there any chance that we can relate a little bit? I think that occasionally we start to ruminate on what’s not going right, on a prayer that wasn’t answered in the way that we’d hoped, in the way that our life looks, in the way that we might have been wronged. I don’t think that Lehi’s trying to invalidate all of the hard, but I think he knows that ruminating on the dark keeps us from seeing the light. But what if it’s our nature? What if it’s our nature just to be a little bit skewed towards our lack? Is that something that we can change? Can we change our nature? Neuroscientists tell us that the more we repeat a behavior, the deeper a neural pathway in our brain becomes. This is called Hebb’s law. It’s neurons that fire together, wire together. It’s basically what you think about becomes your reality. So one of the greatest gifts of God is that he has created us and created our brains to be able to change. We can change our very nature. This means that you can create new neural pathways. It’s just that your brain wants to go to that path of least resistance. So it will continue down the path that is well-worn. So if you want to create a new neural pathway, you have to repeat a behavior over and over again. So if I want to bypass the very deeply worn neural pathway that is created by picking up my phone, which is just an impulse now, I have to focus on instead picking up my scriptures. And the more I pick up my scriptures and not my phone, the deeper this neural pathway becomes. The easier it is for my brain to go to this neural pathway. What we choose to think about is deeply influenced by our image and knowledge of God, which is what I think that Lehi is desperately wanting his children to know. He wants them to know God, he wants them to know his nature, and he wants his sons to respond to the greatness of God by openly loving and honoring him. He knows that when we understand—when they understand God’s greatness—we want more and more of him. I personally really want my children and grandchildren to focus on the goodness of God, on the goodness that’s in their lives. My son mentioned to me recently that he spent a lot of time and effort creating what he’d hoped would be this really fun weekend for his three kids, who are ages ten and seven and four. He said he felt like the weekend went really well, everyone had a great time, and then when their grandparents had met up with them later and asked them what they did that weekend, they all shrugged their shoulders and said they couldn’t remember. My son said he just felt so defeated. How could they not remember? I feel like Lehi has a little bit of this similar feeling. How do you not remember? How can you ignore the goodness of God? How can you ignore what we just did this weekend? And then he kind of gives us a little insight as to how we remember, in that he continues to bring it up. He continues to talk to them about it. He continues to remind them about all of the ways that the Lord has shown up in their lives. And that is why in the scriptures we hear over and over again, remember, remember, remember. So when we remember, it changes our very focus, which changes our very nature. So Lehi’s come to the end of his life, and he’s gathered his family together for some counsel. He’s going to teach them, he’s going to bless them, and he’s going to bear his testimony to them. What message do I want to leave my loved ones? I have a new daughter-in-law, Ellie. We had a conversation recently about fathers and counsel. Ellie told me that she remembers many conversations with her own father growing up in Mexico. When Ellie was born, her father applied for a green card for his daughter, knowing that if and when that application was accepted, she would need to leave his care and his protection and move to the US. He knew very well that that time could come before either of them felt ready. What would you say to your children if you knew that you had limited time while they were in your care and protection? Ellie said her father took every opportunity to fill her with his wisdom and love and counsel. She said many of their conversations centered around situations that had moral implications, and that they would go something like this. He would say, listen, if X happens, you have a choice. You can choose to follow the crowd, you can choose to follow the world and where those natural man tendencies lead you. But pick up that thread, see where that choice leads. Could that choice lead to this, but might then lead to this, and it could then lead you to a place that you don’t want to be? Make the choice, he said, that is going to protect you and protect our family name. Ellie’s father was trying to teach her to think celestial, and she felt his love. Well, when throughout all of those conversations, at seventeen, that application was finally accepted, and she left her father’s physical presence. But his words stayed with her and have been a beacon and a protection to her to this day. In this last conference session, Elder Christofferson had his landmark talk, “O Be Wise.” He said, at different times, President Nelson has reminded us that as we make current decisions, we should always be asking, where will this lead? What is the effect on our future of the decisions we make in the present? And then this one by Amy Wright, if we become casual in our discipleship of Jesus Christ, it could be catastrophic for our children. Did you just really feel this from Lehi? Turn to 2 Nephi 1:21. He says, “And now that my soul might have joy in you, and that I might leave this world with gladness because of you.” And then in verse 28, we learn that Lehi really would love to give his sons, the oldest sons, the birthright blessing. He says, “And now, my son, Laman, and also Lemuel and Sam, and also my sons who are the sons of Ishmael, behold, if ye will hearken unto the voice of Nephi ye shall not perish. And if ye will hearken unto him I leave unto you a blessing, yea, even my first blessing.” I mean, after all of this dissent and murmuring and mocking, this father has not given up. He is still pleading for them to choose the greater portion. With this, I think Lehi is mirroring our own Father in Heaven, who never gives up on his children, who continues to desire a covenant relationship with them, so that he might more fully bless them, empower them, and protect them. Verse 13, Lehi pleads, “O that ye would awake; awake from a deep sleep, yea, even from the sleep of hell, and shake off the awful chains by which ye are bound, which are the chains which bind the children of men, that they are carried away captive down to the eternal gulf of misery and woe.” Wake up, he’s saying. Wake up from the sleep of ignorance and apathy, and from the sleep of complacency, from the sleep of self-indulgence. Wake up to your own part that you’re playing in your own misery and discontent. Lili Anderson said that she sees this as a call to wake up from our natural man’s desires to cover and deny our sins. She says this has application to every one of us. We’re all bound by something. We have great privileges through our covenants that we live beneath because we are human. And when we undertake to cover our sins and lie to ourselves, when we are selfish with our husband, when we hide resentment toward a parent for past mistakes, when we yell at our kids and justify it, it is excusing ourselves. It is dumbing down the principles of the gospel to match up with our behavior. We justify and rationalize, I was under stress, I was hungry, I was in a bad place. And you know what? I pay my tithing. I go to the temple. I serve. I’m good enough. We pretend that we’re living in better harmony with our covenants than we are, and behold, the heavens withdraw themselves. All about power, all about light and truth, intelligence, blessing, protection, withdraws. This is how we fall into a deep sleep. Three times he implores his sons to arise from the dust, which is a way to say, I want you to arise from your low station, from the dust of the natural world, from the natural man. I want you to fully trust in the Lord and stay true to the covenants that you’ve made with him. Verse 23, he implores them to awake, put on the armor of righteousness, shake off the chains which they’re bound, and come forth out of obscurity, and arise from the dust. This is similar language to Isaiah 52, with the themes of waking up, rising from the dust, putting on sacred clothing, and removing chains. There have been multiple things written about this, about this imagery of being taken from the dust. Apparently in the ancient Near Eastern world, being taken from the dust was indicative of a covenant with deity. It was part of a coronation ceremony. It was to arise, put on sacred clothing, remove chains, and be accepted as a covenant partner. This has been so incredibly fascinating to me. All of a sudden, as I’m reading, I am seeing references to dust and rising and it rising everywhere. We have Lehi speaking to his sons about rising from the dust while he’s preparing to go down into the dust. Adam and Eve were formed from the dust. Jesus took his finger and wrote in the dust, and then washed the dust from the disciples’ feet. So if dust is the earth, and perhaps symbolic of our fallen world, of our flesh, of our natural man, then we’re being asked to choose the things that are of the spirit and not of the flesh. And if we’re to arise, that means that we’ve fallen. We live in a fallen world. Adam fell, that men might be. And as mortal men and women, we will fall over and over and over again. When Alma the Younger was visited by an angel of the Lord in the midst of his rebellion, he was so astonished that he fell to the earth. He couldn’t get up. And you know what the angel said to him? Alma, arise, arise. Arise and stand. Suddenly I had this image of Alma, the angel reaching out his hand, pulling Alma up from the ground, from the dust, kind of patting the dust off of him, saying, this is the dust of the world. This is the dust of your misconceptions. What is our dust? What of this fallen world and of our natural man tendencies are clinging to us? What do we need help in brushing off? Lehi takes it one step further in verse 21. He says, “Arise from the dust, my sons, and be men, and be determined in one mind and in one heart, united in all things, that ye may not come down into captivity.” With so much of what is being talked about in the media lately about men, this one really stood out to me. What does it mean to be a man today? Men are under attack. But let’s be honest, we’re all under attack. These are the last days, and Satan has pulled out all the stops, and he has redoubled his efforts on men. Dr. Leonard Sax, who is a physician and a psychologist, and has done extensive research on national trends that are affecting our children, namely boys, wrote a book called Boys Adrift. In the book, Dr. Sax explores what he saw as a growing problem. Our boys are losing motivation in school. They’re disengaging from achievement, and they’re struggling to find direction. He argues that there are six major contributors to this trend. I’m not going to go over all six, but one of them, he said, was changes in education. He said, if you…

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    Combined YW and RS Conference with Sister Shima Baughman – Oct 7 Oct 13, 2026
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    Transcript – Shima Baughman So I have to call her Ms. Howells because she was my daughter’s teacher, so I feel like, thank you, Ms. Howells. You can’t say no to anything your teacher, your kid’s teacher asks, right? It’s like, you come speak at my conference. Yes, I will. When is it? I will be there. Waltmans, thank you so much for that. Katie, Ashley, Lois, that was so beautiful beyond. I wish, I was trying to clap, but then I’m like, clap, no clap. Okay, we’re not clapping, but I would be, I was clapping in my heart. That was beyond beautiful, and yes, that made it worth all of our while to be here, even if everything goes wrong after that. But it’s so great to see you all here. I want to start to tell you about my high school graduation. I was seventeen years old. I was wearing white, a white dress, cap and gown, a brand new pair of white Dr. Scholl’s wooden sandals. They were brand new. And they had a little bit of a heel. And I thought I looked very beautiful and grown up. I felt grown up. So we have this large ceremony where I grew up. It’s at a track. And there’s over a thousand people in this audience and families there, your friends are there, teachers, strangers. And I had been told right before that started that I was going to receive an award. So that meant I had to go up to the stage twice. Once for the award and once later for my diploma. So when my name was called for this award, I stood up, I smoothed my dress, I walked to the stage, shook the principal’s hand, I took the award, I smiled, and then I turned around to walk back to my seat, down this metal ramp with this hollow metallic sound that my shoes made as I walked on it, in front of a thousand people who are now all watching me walk. About halfway down that ramp in my new white Dr. Scholl’s shoes, I lost my balance and slipped and fell. I went down hard. I cut my knee open on the metal of the ramp. I scrambled up, cause, you know, what do you do? And I finished walking back to my seat with blood running down my leg, and I was trying to pretend that I hadn’t been deeply humiliated and embarrassed in front of every single person I’ve ever met. But the ceremony wasn’t over at that point, right? I still had to walk up and down that ramp again in these shoes I clearly didn’t know how to walk in for my diploma. So my name’s called the second time. I walk up the ramp, I shake the hand, I take the diploma, and then I have to walk down this ramp again past the thousand people that I just embarrassed myself in front of, and I was terrified. I didn’t want to fall again. I didn’t want to bleed again. So I made a decision. I would walk so carefully down that ramp that I couldn’t possibly fall. I would tiptoe. I would inch. I would crawl down the ramp if I had to. So I did. I tiptoed down the ramp, one tiny step at a time, so slowly that I think the principal had to call three more names before I reached the bottom. And as I’m tiptoeing, already humiliated, my knee bleeding through my dress, the audience began to laugh. They were roaring, actually. A thousand people couldn’t help themselves. Ha, ha, ha, the girl with the white shoes who fell down the first time is now sneaking down the ramp like a cartoon mouse. I want to tell you what I was thinking on that ramp, because I think every woman in this room has been there. Maybe not at a metal ramp, at a graduation maybe, but sometime. Sometime where you fell once and you didn’t want to fall again. And so instead of walking normally, you inched. You shrank yourself. You tried to manage how you appeared so that you ended up looking more strange, not less. I wasn’t trusting my steps anymore after that fall, and the truth is I didn’t start tiptoeing on that ramp. I was tiptoeing for a long time. I had been afraid to be myself for years before I even put on my white shoes. To understand why, I have to take you back further than that graduation to where I was born. I was born in Iran, and my family was Muslim growing up. We were Persian, my parents were both educated and very politically engaged, my mother especially. My mother’s a very brave woman, much braver than she even thinks she is, but she fought for freedom and democracy in Iran. And at the time, and even now, fighting for those things came at a very heavy cost, and she paid that cost. My mother was imprisoned as a political prisoner in Iran for her work for the cause of religious freedom, freedom of speech, and democracy. I want you to imagine that for a moment, a young woman, and at this point a mother, she has my sister and me as little kids, ends up being sentenced to a political prison just because she dared that human beings should be free. The conditions that she was held, and I won’t really describe in detail, but there was a time she describes where she was held in a prison called Evin, it’s infamous, and recently came in the news as the Iran protests happened again, where her captors would randomly execute a certain number of prisoners every night. And she said you could hear a pin drop as they were executing because all the people that were in the cell being held wanted to hear exactly how many of their friends were being killed at random. What do you think she did in that prison? Well, I’ll tell you. She prayed. She had learned to pray from her mother. She didn’t have the gospel of Jesus Christ, didn’t know anything about it, but she knew there was a God, and from her cell she prayed. She prayed for her daughters, for her family that she couldn’t see. And during this time, she had a dream that she was in America. And this confused her because she had eight more years in prison. At this point, she had already served two. She dreamed she was flying above some of the most beautiful fall colors on a plane, and she was over a place that she’d never been before and never even dreamed of in America. And at the same time, outside of this prison, my dad was a neurosurgeon. And during this period, a very high-ranking religious leader from Iran needed a very difficult medical procedure. My father was blessed enough to perform it, and by skill or grace, we’ll never know, probably prepared by the hand of God, though, the procedure was successful. And because of that, this leader asked my dad, what can I do for you? And it turned out his wife and sister were both being held in political prison, and so they were able to be released six months later. And through miracles, my family was given the opportunity to leave Iran during the Iran-Iraq war and to immigrate to America, to start over. I was seven years old when we arrived in America, and I knew exactly two English words that my mom taught me the day we were leaving, yes and no. And I used both incorrectly. Yes was really hard, so I’d say no a lot because it sounds like nah, nah, no, that’s the same word in Farsi. So, but yes, I did not remember, and so I would get in trouble quite a lot at school. So this is where our story turns from miracle into miracle. Within six months of arriving in America, my father, who was now working in this hospital setting, met a nurse, and she happened to be a Latter-day Saint, a convert, and she was from Iran. And so she didn’t see my father as a, you know, foreign physician with a heavy accent or a complicated past. She looked at him and she felt this prompting from the Holy Ghost, invite his family over for family home evening. And she felt it, but she didn’t act on it. She thought, they’re new here. they don’t know me. This is strange. I, I won’t do it. Then she said she felt the prompting a second time, invite them to family home evening. And again, she hesitated. This time she thought, no, because they’re here for one year. If I invite them and they come to my house and learn about Jesus, they have to go back to Iran and they might get killed. But then she says, she describes her third time getting this prompting. She said, she’s at a, my dad’s at a water fountain pausing to get a drink. And then she gets the prompting again. This time she finally obeys and walks up to my father. She invites him and we came. And that from that one family home evening, this nurse that was prompted three times and finally listened, my family was able to learn about the restored gospel of Jesus Christ, and we were baptized into the church. I just marvel at that, and I, you know, so happy to be able to share this with you because I think about my mother praying in a prison cell in Iran, my father having the opportunity to perform a procedure on a religious leader, grant, getting granted passage to America, and within a few months being introduced to the church by this incredible nurse in the hospital. And here I am today in Holladay, Utah, more than thirty years later, with five kids of my own, a marriage in the temple, serving in the church, working at BYU, having a covenant family, just because this nurse followed a prompting to invite us over. This is the wisdom that my family first learned is that walking with Christ means trusting promptings that we don’t fully understand. I think of the scripture in Isaiah, and it shall come to pass that before they call, I will answer, and while they are yet speaking, I will hear. Before my mother had even finished praying in her cell, God was already arranging a nurse on the other side of the world, and before my father had finished his procedure, God was already preparing our visa. Before any of us knew there was a thing called Latter-day Saints, the Holy Ghost was already nudging a nurse to invite us to her home. God was answering my mother’s prayers in a language none of us yet spoke. So you would think that a girl who came from these miraculous circumstances, who had been delivered out of a prison cell from Iran by the hand of God, would walk into American life confident and grateful and sure of who she was. I did not. I want to tell you what I tried to be, because I think this part’s more universal than the prison cell story. the prison cell story is my background, but the next part, I think, is something that a lot of us might be able to relate to. When I started elementary school in America, I wanted to, more than anything in the world, to be a girl named Kimberly. And I don’t mean a specific Kimberly. I would have been okay being Jennifer. The blonde-haired Kimberly with freckles who carried an L.L. Bean backpack and wore Gap jeans, who walked into the classroom seeming to belong there without any effort. And I was none of those things. I was a small Persian girl with thick, dark hair and an accent and a family that ate food that no one else’s family ate. And I looked at the Kimberleys and I was convinced that the key to belonging was to become one of them, preferably one named Kimberley, preferably taller, blonde, with freckles. Now, it didn’t occur to me at seven or eight years old that maybe the Kimberleys might also be struggling with something. And it didn’t occur to me that the freckled girl might be wishing that she might have tan skin. we were both miserable maybe for something that the other wished they had. This is my first version of what I would call a wisdom deficit. I didn’t yet know what wisdom was. I thought wisdom might be figuring out how to be more like the girls who seemed to be doing it right. I thought wisdom meant changing myself, editing myself, and learning, and my sister and I would actually impart wisdom to each other every night as we tutored each other, and we’d get home from school and teach each other the things we learned about being American, how to be more like Kimberly. One of the things, you don’t wear the same clothes every day to school, right? There’s a lot of things we taught each other and tried to, to do to fit in. Now fast forward a decade. By the time I was a college student at BYU, I had not entirely outgrown this impulse to be someone else. I had only changed the someone. So as a BYU student, I had a, a chance to do an internship in South Africa. I was so excited, but I thought, I really want to belong here, and so I wanted to be embraced by this community, so I decided the best way I could fit in in South Africa is to grow dreadlocks. Yep. Now, here’s the problem. My hair doesn’t quite easily form dreadlocks. I have Persian hair, and it behaves differently than hair that dreads, but to make it dread, I learned you have to have some damage to it. So I went to a local store in South Africa, and I bought some dye. And I first tried to dye it brown, and that didn’t quite make it dread properly. So after seven of attempts, I ended up with a color of hair I can only describe accurately as lion mane. So there I was, a Persian girl at BYU, doing an internship in South Africa with damaged hair the color of a lion’s mane, trying to grow dreadlocks. Now, I want you to know in that moment, finally and ironically, I achieved my childhood dream that I’d given up on years earlier. I had become a blonde. And to, to be honest, that story is funny now, but it wasn’t funny then, because underneath the lion mane hair was the same Persian girl who wanted to be Kimberly, the same instinct. I was trying to be something other than what God had made, still tiptoeing down the ramp, afraid to fail. I just chosen a different costume. And that’s obviously the opposite of wisdom. It was a long, exhausting, decades-spanning project of trying to be enough by trying to be somebody else. And the only thing that pulled me out of that project, the only thing that’s ever stopped me from tiptoeing has been Jesus Christ. And he, he’s never made me prettier or thinner or blonder or changed my name to Jennifer, but he showed me what wisdom actually was. When we use the wisdom, the word wisdom today, We sometimes think of it associated with something like intelligence, strategy, right? The ability to figure out the right answer in a difficult situation, being smart in a way that’s impenetrable. In the world’s vocabulary, wisdom sounds performative, something that means oppressive, learned through mistakes or hard-earned life experience. But that is not wisdom in scripture. In scripture, wisdom is a gift that you ask for. James taught it. He said, if any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God that giveth to all men liberally and upbraideth not, and it shall be given him. That’s the verse that sent a boy named Joseph into a grove of trees, and it’s a verse that still sends us to our knees. Wisdom is asked for, and it’s given. When I have asked, the wisdom he’s given me has come to two simple things. Wisdom is accepting who God made you to be and trusting that you don’t need to be anyone else. And wisdom is walking with Christ, especially in his holy house. Everything else I want to share with you today highlights one of those two truths. The wisdom of Jesus Christ is something completely different. It doesn’t come from old age or cleverness or even being right. It’s steady work of walking with someone in a way that lets them to be seen. It’s taking a longer road, asking a question when you already know the answer, or being patient enough with a person’s disappointment to let it speak before you reply. I want to take you to a place in scripture where Jesus does this beautifully. It’s a moment that defines to me what wisdom in Christ looks like. On the day of the resurrection, on the very day that Mary Magdalene found the empty tomb, two disciples were walking from Jerusalem to a village called Emmaus, about seven miles away. One of them’s named Cleopas, but we don’t know what the other one’s name was. But they were walking and grieving. They had spent the last three years of their life following a man who they came to believe as a Messiah, and three days earlier they had watched him die. The scripture says, and they talked together of all these things which had happened. That’s what grief looks like. Two people walking down a road, trying to make sense of this tragedy that they just witnessed. And while they’re walk…

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    Oct 6 2026 1 Nephi 19-22 by Morrissa Rich Oct 07, 2026
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    FINAL Monday 1 NEPHI 19-22 10 5 26 26 links Instructor: One lovely prayer. Thank you. And how good it is to see you. You look terrific. Let’s start with Jesus. Let’s start with Christ. I have a song here that I hope you’ll enjoy. This is a combined choir of BYU students, and as you listen to it, will you listen to the contrasts in the lyrics? And also, will you look at these beautiful, beautiful young people? Choir (lyrics approximate; recognition is poor):As he suffered, he had faith. Once upon the cross he bowed, bowed the lonely hand. Now the Lord of grace I am. Once upon the cross he bowed. Now his cherubim arise, now his cherubim arise. Was rejected by his own, nothing he shall be known. Nothing he shall be known. As I seek and let alone, thou exaltest to a throne. Once of thee see me, reward, cause in I will then go. I see how you… Instructor: Now, dear King, he shall be known. Well, I ask you to look for the difference of the contrasts in that song. Our lesson today is 1 Nephi 19 through 22, which is a study in contrasts, but also similarities. So I hope you see that as we go through. It’s about Jesus Christ as Savior, Redeemer, and Gatherer. It’s about our learning and profiting from likening the scriptures to ourselves. It’s about former and present-day scatterings. It’s about present-day gatherings. And it’s about our commission to gather God’s children. You know that old saw you hear: tell them what you’re going to tell them, then tell them, then tell them what you told them. Well, that’s kind of the way these chapters work. In 1 Nephi chapter 19, Nephi tells us what he’s going to tell us. In 1 Nephi chapters 20 and 21, he uses Isaiah 48 and 49 to tell us. And then in 22, he tells us what he told us. In other words, he makes an explanation of Isaiah’s words to Laman and Lemuel. Let’s talk about Nephi’s purpose. He says, “I have written these things unto my people, that I might persuade them to remember the Lord their Redeemer,” and you will hear this purpose spoken over and over as we go through this lesson. Again, that I have written these things that I might more fully persuade them to believe in the Lord their Redeemer. One of the aspects of this lesson, because of what I told you about the structure—tell them what you’re going to tell them, then tell them, then tell them what you told them—I’ll be moving through all of those scriptures to make that point. In other words, they’re not clumped together. The first section of chapter 19 we’re going to talk through, but throughout the lesson I pull in verses from the other chapters as well, so don’t let that confuse you. I hope you’re not flipping through pages trying to follow the scriptures that we’ve referred to. Here’s an example. I just quoted this from chapter 19, verse 23. Here’s verse 24: “Hear ye the words of the prophet, and liken them unto yourselves, that ye may have hope.” I’m interested in this. How do Nephi’s writings or influence affect your hope, your comfort, your joy? Also, do these writings influence your choices, your concerns, and maybe even your repenting? Well, Nephi cites Zenock and Zenos’s prophecies of Christ’s coming sufferings and crucifixion, and we’re going to deal with that now. So in verse 7 of 19, he says, “For the things which some men esteem to be of great worth, both to body and soul, others set at naught and trample under their feet.” And I have an example of this from my life. There’s a TV show called Clarkson’s Farm. It’s a British documentary, and it’s just a hoot. We love it. It’s a lot of fun. And we watched several episodes of it, and we love all the characters. They’re all great. There’s a fair amount of profanity in it—not a lot, but some. You know how farmers are. But occasionally, rarely, they take the Lord’s name in vain as a way of swearing. And the first couple of times we went, well, let’s move on. Not that it’s okay, but we like this show a lot. And about the third episode, we kind of had it with that. And the problem was, we’d been watching this show with a daughter who’s not in the Church, and she was loving it too. And we were joking about it. We joked about the characters together and everything. And so the challenge came: how do we tell her we’re not going to watch this anymore? But we did. I said, there is other profanity—that’s what farmers say—but this is a bridge too far. And we were worried about her reaction because the relationship with her is rather tenuous, and so we grasp at every opportunity. But she was okay with it. She even said, “I’ll try not to do that while I’m around you.” Oh, please don’t. Anyway, it worked out okay. But in fact, it was a method of trampling under their feet our Savior Jesus Christ. “And behold, Christ cometh according to the words of the angel, in six hundred years from the time my father left Jerusalem. And the world, because of their iniquity, shall judge him to be a thing of naught. Wherefore they scourge him, and he suffereth it. They smite him, and he suffereth it. Yea, they spit upon him, and he suffereth it.” Why? Because of his loving kindness and his long-suffering toward you and me. I came across this writing, so it’s in poetic form. [Name unclear—sounds like “Albersdor”; described as German.] This is a German poem, which doesn’t translate all that well in terms of the rhyme scheme and so on, but it’s still worth reading. Listen to this: “Christ, you have been made man so as to make us gods, and you have been chained so as to release us from our chains. God, tortured with floggings and thorns under an unjust judge, you teach us to bear our sorrows with calm and resignation.” Isn’t that lovely? “And all these things must surely come, saith the prophet Zenos. And the rocks of the earth must rend; and because of the groanings of the earth, the God of nature suffers.” So we’ve kind of dealt with that part of chapter 19. And so let’s move to the scatterings now. We’re talking about—by the way, scatterings include a whole human history of scatterings—but specifically we’re going to talk about Israel and Lehi’s family scatterings and present-day scatterings. Here’s a screen that we’re not going to read all of. You can relax. The reason I put it up here is to show you how complicated the scattering process is, and the gathering as well. This is a very complex, history-long process, so we’re not going to talk a lot about it. But I came across this gal named Kristen Walker-Smith. She’s a mother of teenagers, and she makes videos in an attempt to help her children understand what the scriptures are about. And so she’s made a video about the scattering. Now, I regret to tell you that the screen’s rather small on this. I made it as large as I could, but frankly, I used this because she’s so cute. I think you’ll get a kick out of it. Kristen Walker-Smith (video): Class is in session, and today we’re finding out what exactly is the scattering of Israel. Prophets have been telling us that the gathering of Israel is the most important thing going on in the world right now. So what exactly is the scattering? The scattering happened in three parts. First, the united Israelites divided into northern and southern kingdoms. Second, the northern kingdom, which had ten tribes in it, was taken by the Assyrians. We don’t know what happened to those tribes. Third, the southern tribe of Judah, with the remaining two tribes, was later taken into captivity by the Babylonians. About 70 years later, they were given permission to return to the Promised Land, but only some of them returned. The rest stayed scattered. So the scattering is the idea that God’s chosen people were no longer together in the Promised Land physically, and their lack of proximity to prophets, priesthood, and sacred promises with God—or covenants—meant that they became scattered spiritually too. That’s exactly what the gathering of Israel is reversing today. We are trying to bring people back to God’s prophets, his priesthood, and promises made with him. Make sure to save and share this with your team, because they’re probably wondering what the scattering actually is. Instructor: Isn’t that great? “And as for those who are at Jerusalem, saith the prophet, they shall be scourged by all people, because they crucified the God of Israel, and turn their hearts aside, rejecting signs and wonders and the power and glory of the God of Israel. And because they turn their hearts aside, saith the prophet, and have despised the Holy One of Israel, they shall wander in the flesh, and perish, and become a hiss and a byword, and be hated among all nations.” Notice—I’m going to go back. You know, notice that this is chapter 19. This next one is chapter 22. I told you I was going to be skipping between the chapters, okay? Because the themes are the same. “And it appears that the house of Israel, sooner or later, will be scattered upon all the face of the earth, and also among all nations. And behold, there are many who are already lost from the knowledge of those who are at Jerusalem.” A very complicated pattern. “And they are scattered to and fro upon the isles of the sea; and whither they are none of us knoweth.” That’s what she said, right? Nobody knows, “save that we know that they have been led away.” By the way, there’s a great deal of scholarly information that you can access about the gathering, if you choose. It’s fascinating. There’s just too much to cover here. But Laman—Nephi tries to explain to his brothers. Remember, they ask him in chapter 22, “What meaneth these things?” And he says, “Hear ye the words of the prophet, and liken them unto yourselves, that ye may have hope as well as your brethren from whom ye have been broken off.” Yes. The Lehites were broken off. They were a scattered branch that was broken off, and Nephi was trying to get them to recognize that aspect. Well, have you experienced any scattering in your family? I have. In this last conference, Elder Rasband gave a talk. I’ve taken some clips from it. Once again, you’ll remember that the way this happens is these clips start abruptly and end abruptly, so I hope you’ll be comfortable with that. But these comments of Elder Rasband I thought were particularly applicable here. Elder Ronald A. Rasband: My dear brothers and sisters, my message is for everyone whose heart aches for loved ones who’ve turned away from the Lord, stepped away from obedience to God’s laws, breached their covenants, and left behind a string of broken hearts, becoming, as the Bible says, tossed to and fro. As the Apostle Paul described, you may feel burdened excessively, beyond your strength, weighed down as if being pressed out of measure. If I asked for a show of hands of how many feel that way, hands would shoot up in this hall and around the world. Most of us have faced such anguish in our families or our circle of friends. I know Sister Rasband and I have. Instructor: So, kind of a universal issue, isn’t it? The scattering of loved ones. Have any of your family members experienced trials in the wilderness? Mine have. This past week, my niece died of an alcohol overdose. She went into seizures and passed away, leaving two young children. Her father, my husband’s brother, told us she’s actually been a functioning alcoholic since she was fifteen years old. She’d been in rehab off and on. Nothing worked. She simply drank herself to death. Now, imagine the isles in the wilderness for her, for her children. Nevertheless, Nephi and Isaiah prophesy gatherings. “When they no more turn aside their hearts against the Holy One of Israel, then will he remember the covenants which he made to their fathers. Yea, then will he remember the isles of the sea; yea, and all the people who are of the house of Israel, will I gather in, saith the Lord, according to the words of the prophet Zenos, from the four quarters of the earth.” You know President Nelson’s famous line: the gathering of Israel is the most important thing taking place on the earth today. Well, as of September 2026, more than ninety thousand full-time missionaries are serving worldwide. The count includes young proselyting missionaries, young service missionaries, and senior missionaries. And for our own stake, presently eighty-six missionaries are serving from the Olympus Stake. This includes Church service missionaries. Fifty-eight of those are proselyting missionaries. Eight missionaries are presently in the MTC. In addition, of the nine presently assigned to depart for the mission field, eight are sister missionaries. Yes. Here’s an interesting picture. I gotta look and see how clear it is for you. Oh, it’s pretty good. This is a picture taken by Clinton Christensen, who works for the Church History Department. He recently returned from a visit to Papua New Guinea, and this is a picture from that trip. You’ll see in the picture a group of men standing knee-deep in mud in white shirts and ties, and their pant legs rolled up. You see in the foreground a man in the water baptizing, his arm to the square. You can’t see the person he’s baptizing, but you can, sort of. You can see the hand of the person who he’s holding. You can also see five men to your left at the water’s edge. Two are holding spears. Three are holding axes. They are there to attack crocodiles who may be in the water. “And then, O house of Israel, behold, these shall come from far”—Papua New Guinea, who knew?—“and lo, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of Sinim.” The gathering of Israel is the gathering of faithful Saints wherever they are. Do you remember this? Conference clip: Welcome to conference. Why did the temple workers cross the road to help the people on the other side? Instructor: So you know where this is going, don’t you? We had a gathering not so long ago in our neighborhood, in our ward. This dear sister in the white skirt is a member of our ward and has been a member of the community all her life. And the gathering takes place over years. Years. Neighbors have loved her, cared for her, encouraged her, and gathered her. And you see on your left Bishop Mahas and Bishop O’Brien at her endowment ceremony in the Draper Temple. And then on your right, the picture of the gatherers. A profound time. So what gathering is happening in your family? I’ll tell you just quickly a little gathering in our family that’s going to happen day after tomorrow. We have several grandchildren who are not in the Church, and we’re taking four of them to New York—not New York City. My husband was born and raised in Schenectady, and so we’re going to upstate New York. You know what’s in upstate New York. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, even if we don’t make the Church’s historic sites, it will be a time of togetherness, of love, of happiness and excitement, and of their knowing that we love them no matter what. Now, I’d like us to take a few minutes. Will you talk about what gathering is happening in your family? Okay. [Class discussion, roughly 27:23–34:00; not captured in the speech track.] Okay, what terrific, terrific love there is here. I just heard three wonderful stories—what gathering is happening in your family. Boy, I have to tell you, we’re working on this one full time. Here’s another clip by Elder Rasband. I hope you find this useful. Elder Ronald A. Rasband: Brothers and sisters, Jesus Christ pulls much more than his weight. His Atonement is witness of his all-encompassing love for each one of us. Brutal as it was for him, his Atonement was crucial for our eternal journey. Remember, “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.” He has already paid for the sins and errant choices of all of God’s children, including those for whom you and I grieve. He knows them. He knows their hearts. He loves them. He gave his very life to bring them home—all the way home. Remember the prodigal son who chose to leave his safe moorings for riotous living? He lost his fortune and his self-respect, and…

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    Sept 29 2026 1 Nephi 16-18 by Anita Leimbach Sep 30, 2026
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    Sisters in Scriptures 92926pdfDownload Transcript Duration: ~45:52 I’m happy to be here today. I’m even happier that all the technology is working. Nobody’s been praying harder for that than me. We’re glad. I just want to say at the first, I know people listen to this on podcasts, because I’ve been listening on podcasts. If you are listening on podcasts and would like to see the slides that I show, if you will just email me, I will send them to you so you can look at those. And my email is—if you promise not to send me any offers for diamonds—you can do it to anita lineback at gmail dot com. Okay, so it’s really easy. So today we’re talking about First Nephi sixteen to eighteen, and I titled this Directors, Cycles, and Ships. As I was reading this, I just was overwhelmed with the cycles that I kept seeing. And here’s the cycles I see in Lehi’s family, okay? There comes a problem, or a bump in the road, and then immediately there’s murmuring, and then after murmuring and whatever else goes on with that, there’s chastisement, and then there’s repentance, and then we come to another bump in the road, and there’s murmuring, chastisement, repentance, and it just keeps going on and on. And we’re going to see a number of those today in the reading that we have. When we last left them, they were camping in the wilderness outside Jerusalem. This is an overview of Lehi’s journey. This is a map somebody made that I trust they know what they’re talking about, but I will make no claims for its authenticity except that it seems right to me. Lehi and his family have been camping in the desert outside of Jerusalem, so they’ve been going back and forth, right? Get the plates, get some wives, get all of that stuff. And now this map of the Arabian Peninsula: they are going to travel down the east side of the Red Sea, and there’s a whole bunch of little places that they camped, apparently, and this is mountainous terrain, and then at the bottom they sort of make a left turn and they end up along the bottom of the Arabian Peninsula. That’s a journey of about twenty-two hundred miles. I started thinking about that and I thought about what other journeys do we know. Well, the pioneers coming to Utah from various places in Missouri went about two thousand miles. The children of Israel wandered in the desert, and from Egypt to the promised land was about two hundred and fifty miles. So this is the math portion of the program today. I was very excited about this. How long—if you’re going twenty-two hundred miles and it took them eight years—somehow I’ve never clicked in that it was eight years that they went. That’s going two hundred and seventy-five miles per year. If you’re the children of Israel going the 250 miles, they’re going 6.25 miles per year—not a real burning speed. And the pioneers were going about 15 miles per day. I just like doing a little math once in a while. Here we go. They’re getting ready to start their journey. And it came to pass—I’m in First Nephi 16 verse 9—and it came to pass that the voice of the Lord spake unto my father by night, and commanded him that on the morrow he should take his journey into the wilderness. And it came to pass that as my father arose in the morning and went forth to the tent door, to his great astonishment he beheld upon the ground a round ball of curious workmanship, and it was of fine brass, and within the ball were two spindles, and the one pointed the way whither we should go into the wilderness. And it came to pass that we did gather together whatsoever things we should carry into the wilderness, and all the remainder of our provisions which the Lord had given unto us, and we did take seed of every kind that we might carry into the wilderness. Now this is amazing. The Lord tells him that night, “Okay, tomorrow you’re going to go in the wilderness,” and then that morning he finds this director outside his tent door. It just sounds fantastical, doesn’t it? This small thing that would point where you would go, and even we’ll find out later it has things written on it. How in the world could something like that happen? Do we have anything like that today? I mean, before Google Maps, here it is, and it’s telling you. So they’ve got this—I want to say magical, but that’s not the right word. They’ve got this ball that will tell them where to go for eight years. No battery recharging, nothing like that. I’ve always thought that we need to liken the scriptures to ourselves. That’s a direct quote from some scripture. And I started looking, and I found an example of where they actually did this in the Book of Mormon. And I’m going to Alma 37. And now my son, I have somewhat to say concerning the thing which our fathers call a ball or director—or our fathers called it Liahona, which is, being interpreted, a compass—and the Lord prepared it. And behold, there cannot any man work after the manner of so curious a workmanship. And behold, it was prepared to show unto our fathers the course which they should travel in the wilderness. And it did work for them according to their faith in God. Therefore, if they had faith to believe that God could cause that those spindles should point the way they should go, behold, it was done. Therefore they had this miracle, and also many other miracles wrought by the power of God day by day. And this is where Alma starts likening it. Nevertheless, because those miracles were worked by small means, it did show unto them marvelous works. They were slothful, and forgot to exercise their faith and diligence, and then those marvelous works ceased, and they did not progress in their journey. Therefore they tarried in the wilderness, or did not travel a direct course, and were afflicted with hunger and thirst because of their transgressions. And now, my son, I would that ye should understand that these things are not without a shadow. For as our fathers were slothful to give heed to this compass—now these things were temporal—they did not prosper. Even so it is with things which are spiritual. For behold, it is as easy to give heed to the word of Christ, which will point to you a straight course to eternal bliss, as it was for our fathers to give heed to this compass, which would point them a straight course to the promised land. I find that so interesting that Alma is likening—and I don’t know how he’s reading those plates or he just knows the story—how he’s likening the Liahona to them. And for those of you keeping score at home, the Liahona is only mentioned once in the Book of Mormon, and it’s right here in Alma 37. It’s always just called the directors otherwise. Now Alma’s preaching to his people and he’s using the Liahona, and then I went down a rabbit hole. Because what does Liahona mean? They said it was a director, but I found an article by Jonathan Kirche called “The Direction of the Lord: An Etymological Explanation.” Etymology means the history of a word. And he says the name Liahona, although it appears only once in the Book of Mormon text, has drawn the rapt attention of the curious and the learned. My contribution builds upon past efforts to explain the possible etymological meaning of the name Liahona. I offer what I argue to be a more plausible explanation than those of my predecessors in light of the Lehites’ linguistic background. My approach is to transliterate back into the Hebraic idioms of the time of Lehi what I perceived that Joseph Smith saw or heard and dictated. I was really excited about this because I love vocabulary, and I know I’m an old English teacher so that just turns lots of people off. But he said he wanted to look at what, if Lehi was writing in Hebraic terms, those terms would have been that Joseph Smith would have heard or seen in his translation. And then he presents the grammatical elements used to form the name Liahona, which he shows to mean quite literally “to Yahweh is the whither,” or by interpretation “direction of or to the Lord.” I thought that was really exciting. I can see that not everybody here is as excited about that, but I was excited about that. I really like this name—direction of or to the Lord. Now, has anyone besides Lehi and his family and his followers ever seen the Liahona? I want you to just turn to a neighbor and say yes or no. Okay. All right, let me point you to D&C section 17 verse 1. Behold, I say unto you—and he is talking to Oliver Cowdery, David Whitmer, and Martin Harris, three witnesses—Behold, I say unto you that you must rely upon my word, which if you do with full purpose of heart, you shall have a view of the plates, and also of the breastplate, the sword of Laban, the Urim and Thummim, which were given to the brother of Jared upon the mount when he talked with the Lord face to face, and the miraculous directors which were given to Lehi while in the wilderness on the borders of the Red Sea. Now we have no official documentation that they saw all these things. But we also have no official documentation that they did not see these things. And I thought, oh, so I started researching, and I found some stuff, and I really wanted to show you it, but I couldn’t find it from any source that I was comfortable to put on a slide in front of all you ladies if it turned out to be bunk. But then I did find something somewhere that I was comfortable with. This is Revelations in Context, and the chapter is “The Experience of the Three Witnesses.” Days later, the prophecy was dramatically fulfilled. It was in the latter part of June 1829, David Whitmer wrote. Joseph, Oliver Cowdery, and myself were together, and the angels showed them the plates to us. We were sitting on a log when we were overshadowed by a light more glorious than that of the sun. In the midst of the light, but a few feet from us, appeared a table upon which were many gold plates, also the sword of Laban, and the directors. I saw them as plain as I see you now, and distinctly heard the voice of the Lord declaring that the records of the plates of the Book of Mormon were translated by the gift and power of God. So all of you who whispered yes, just give yourself ten points. That was really good. All right, there’s the end of my deep dive. Let’s go back to Nephi 16 verse 28. And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld the pointers which were in the ball, that they did work according to the faith and diligence and the heed which we did give unto them. And there was also written upon them a new writing, which was plain to be read, which did give us understanding concerning the ways of the Lord. And it was written and changed from time to time according to the faith and diligence which we gave unto it. And thus we see that by small means the Lord can bring about great things. And it came to pass that I, Nephi, did go forth up into the top of the mountain according to the directions which were given upon the ball. So he goes and these directors lead him to food, because that’s a problem in the wilderness. You can’t pack enough food for apparently eight years. So they’re using the Liahona to direct them through words, through their faithfulness. And then I remembered just last week and the week before we taught a lot about the iron rod as the way to God. And I thought, how can the—there’s two ways apparently, or at least two ways. The Liahona can lead you, the iron rod can lead you. They seem to be different ways to get to the truth. Richard Paul wrote an essay in 1967, and he said there are two types of church members: Liahonans and iron rodders. And I found it really interesting. I really liked it because he said there’s kind of two different ways to do it: hanging onto the rod or living faithfully and following directions. But I feel like I’m not one or the other. And then I thought, well, I’m sort of like Nephi and Lehi. They use both—the idea of the iron rod and the Liahona. But it’s interesting to think about how you use both the iron rod and the Liahona in your life. Two different ways. So I immediately went back to this slide I used last time I taught. And you may think, oh, she’s so tickled with the way that slide turned out. That’s why she’s using it again. And you’re right. It’s exactly why I’m using it again. But it talks about having a less direct way and a more direct way to hear God’s voice. And if you remember, personally, that’s why I’m reading what I’m reading for in the Book of Mormon: I’m looking for ways I can—things I can do to hear God’s voice. So this was the slide that I used, and I thought, oh, I bet I can use it again because it was so good. I’m going to use it again, only this time I’m calling it the Liahona versus the Iron Rod. And then I didn’t like that. So I thought, the Liahona and the Iron Rod. Okay, we can use both. So there’s my slide: Liahona on one side, Iron Rod on the other side. And then I thought, how are these people moving forward using these tools? So I thought, okay, what am I going to write under Iron Rodder? And the first thing I said: words of the prophet. Listen to the words of the prophet—that’s the iron rod. And then the scriptures—the word of God. We all know the song: the iron rod is the word of God. And then I came to this one: the Liahona magazine. Can you imagine? It was just like made for this slide. And then I started getting closer to the Liahona: personal revelation. And then more personal incentive. And I’m actually going to talk about this with a few other stories here in this lesson. And heart and mind. If you remember, the feelings in your heart and mind. So there’s a continuum, and the Liahona and the iron rod are both important. But I think it’s really interesting sometimes to think about what are you using at any particular time. Let me just say one other thing with this. Neither of these work unless you’re keeping the commandments and not murmuring. You can’t hear the still small voice when you do that. This is presupposing that you are doing your best. All right. Nephi 17. And it came to pass we did again take our journey in the wilderness, and we did travel nearly eastward from that time forth, and we did travel and wade through much affliction in the wilderness, and our women did bear children in the wilderness. And so great were the blessings of the Lord upon us, that while we did live upon raw meat in the wilderness, our women did give plenty of suck for their children, and were strong, yea, even like unto the men, and they began to bear their journeys without murmurings. And thus we see that the commandments of God must be fulfilled. And if it so be that the children of men keep the commandments of God, he doth nourish them, and strengthen them, and provide means whereby they can accomplish the thing which he commanded them. Wherefore he did provide means for us while we did sojourn in the wilderness. And we did sojourn in the wilderness for the space of many years, yea, even eight years in the wilderness. And remember, this time the Liahona has been working for these eight years, keeping them on track all this time. Well of course we can’t go very long before we run into some problems, and I’m calling this “doing what the Lord asks.” And Nephi’s got a problem. His bow breaks—his steel bow breaks—and even worse, the other guys’ bows have lost their spring. I don’t know what the life cycle of a bow and arrow is, but I gotta think it’s less than eight years before that happens. And it says: Now it came to pass that I, Nephi, having been afflicted with my brethren because of the loss of my bow, and their bows having lost their springs, it began to be exceedingly difficult, yea, insomuch that we could obtain no food. And it came to pass that I, Nephi, did speak much unto my brethren, because they had hardened their hearts again, even unto complaining against the Lord their God. So here we’ve got the problem and the murmuring starting. And then right next, instead of murmuring, Nephi takes some action, some personal incentive. And it came to pass that I…

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    Sept 22 2026 1 Nephi 13-15 by Nancy Baird Sep 22, 2026
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    TranscriptDuration: ~58:30 [0:06] It’s so beautiful to see you all walking in. It’s like rain, the rain to me. [0:16] So today we are doing First Nephi thirteen through fifteen. And it’s the chapters thirteen and fourteen are the second half of Nephi’s vision. So we did the first half last week. [0:47] Because it will all end with John, I’m gonna start with John, the apostle. This is John 1:1. When all things began, the Word already was. The Word dwelt with God, and what God was, the Word was. The Word then was with God at the beginning, and through Him all things came to be. No single thing was created without Him. All that came to be was alive with His life, and that life is the light of men. The light shines on in the dark, and the darkness has never mastered it. I want to read that last line again, because of our chapters. The darkness has never mastered it. [1:48] So that is John the Revelator, who the angel tells Nephi in his vision to write the things concerning the end of the world, and also many things which have been. That’s in 1 Nephi 14:21. John is to write them, not Nephi, although Nephi also saw them, and that’s what happened. [2:21] I read a comment about these chapters 13 and 14, that they’re not easy reading, that they’re like walking through sand. And the word that came to me is that they are thick. They’re very thick. The stuff of the teachings or what happens in these chapters, they’re all over the place. It’s like a play with entrances and exits of people and events along with prophecies and doom. It’s world history seen through the lens of the house of Israel. But it’s not Nephi’s doing. He’s just describing the vision he was given and what the angel, who is his guide, is telling him. So he is trying to recreate this spectacular vision that begins in chapter eleven and goes through the end of fourteen. It’s this huge sweeping vision encompassing the tale of the house of Israel and the movement of the Gentiles and their interactions with the house of Israel as God moves them, almost like chess pieces, to bring to pass somehow what he needs to happen. There’s my chessboard. And when one plan doesn’t work, God pivots to another one. And because of course he’s working through willful and unbelieving humans, he has to bring in other pieces. It’s more than an allegory of the olive tree, although that’s also in our chapter fifteen, where the branches are taken off and grafted in again. And then Nephi talks about this allegory at least four more times in his books. [5:04] It’s not Lehi’s gentle vision that Nephi relates in these chapters. Lehi’s is in chapter eight. Muhammad, as he was having his… well, let me ask you first, how long do you think Lehi and Nephi’s vision lasted? We don’t know, so you can guess. But Muhammad and his important and fundamental vision for Muslims said that he spilled a glass of wine as he went to sleep, received his vision, and when he woke up, the wine was still spilling from the glass. So these experiences are without time. I brought my glass and I forgot the wine. No, I’m just kidding. [6:25] Open your books if you have your books to thirteen, First Nephi thirteen. The angel talks about two books. This is in verse forty-one. And these books will come out at the end of time, kind of the end. They must come, this is verse forty-one, according to the words of the Lamb, and the words of the Lamb shall be made known in the records of thy seed, as well as in the records of the twelve apostles of the Lamb, wherefore they both shall be established in one, for there is one God and one shepherd over all the earth. So we’ll get two books. When Nephi is writing all this down, does he realize that what he is writing will be in one of these books? I thought that was an interesting question. [7:35] When our children were growing up, my husband John would bring them together at night, all of us, and read scripture and have a prayer, a family prayer. And our number two daughter, Lissa, would sometimes lock herself in her room by shoving a three-ring binder under the door, about this big, but it worked great because she didn’t have a lock. My husband would get somewhat annoyed about her refusal to come up until one day when I said to him, if you keep doing that, you’re gonna lose her. So sometimes it takes two experimenting parents to remain calm. Then John would go down and read one verse to her: “Jesus wept,” or “remember Lot’s wife,” or “pray without ceasing,” or “thou shalt not murder.” And then he would leave her alone. It’s not like she was doing drugs. She was studying for AP biology. She just didn’t want to come. She’s the child who stowed her friend’s split lip together with dental floss at a cabin one winter night when they went sledding off a cliff. This is a very unusual child. That was all about reading the books. [9:31] So in First Nephi twelve, when it ends after we see the great and spacious building right at the end, Nephi sees his people overcome by the seed of his brothers. And it says the Lamanites and the mixture of people left, so they were Nephites mixed in, right? Continue fighting in wars and rumors of wars through many generations. In other words, they just keep killing each other. That’s in twelve, twenty-one. And Nephi sees them dwindle in unbelief and become a dark and loathsome and a filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations. They didn’t start out that way; they became that way. [10:47] Scott Peck, who wrote The Road Less Traveled, also wrote this interesting book called People of the Lie. It’s older, but he’s a psychiatrist, and it is the hope for healing human evil. It’s about people who are evil. And it’s not easy reading. But he said that laziness or sloth—remember this verse just said that the people had become full of idleness—laziness or sloth is the most basic of sins. That it is boredom with divine things. Inertia that cannot be troubled to repent, even though it sees the abyss into which the soul is falling. [12:09] So that’s our stage for chapter thirteen, where the angel who is Nephi’s guide turns Nephi’s focus to the Gentiles and their nations and kingdoms to the world. And this great sweep of history begins. And right away in thirteen and five, the angel shows him the formation of a great church. And the angel said unto me, Behold, the formation of a church which is most abominable of all other churches, which slayeth the saints of God and tortures them and binds them down and yokes them with a yoke of iron and brings them down into captivity. And I saw the devil that he was the founder of it. So that is the great and abominable church. Well, the definition of a church is a gathering of people. It’s not a building. And it’s not just one church. John in Revelation calls this abominable church Babylon, where everything is for sale, including integrity. And I suppose that’s why it’s called the whore of all the earth, the great and abominable church. [13:53] This is 14:10 and 11, and the angel said unto me, there are save two churches only, the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil, wherefore whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God, belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations. She’s the whore of all the earth, and she sat upon many waters, and she had dominion over all the earth, among all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people. In other words, there are two great forces battling for humankind and their souls. C.S. Lewis said there is no neutral ground in the universe. Every square inch, every split second is claimed by God and counterclaimed by Satan. [14:59] But God is merciful to the Gentiles and they are blessed by him and he begins to move. Here’s one of the entrances. This is thirteen and twelve. And here it starts. The spirit of God comes down and wrought upon a man and he went forth upon the many waters into the promised land. So who is that? Yeah, Columbus. [15:39] Thirteen and fourteen, and all these Gentiles scatter and smite the Lamanites because the wrath of God is on the Lamanites. And fifteen, the Gentiles prosper and obtain land, and the spirit of the Lord was upon the Gentiles, and then seventeen through nineteen, the mother Gentiles were gathered together upon the waters and upon the land also to battle against them. The power of God was with them, and they were delivered by the power of God out of the hands of all other nations, which were… what nations? England, but also Spain and France. George Washington had to fight them all. Richard Bushman said that the American Republic makes only a cameo appearance in the Book of Mormon. The Book of Mormon allows just nine verses to the deliverance of the Gentiles from English rule, and the rest of the book concentrates on the deliverance of Israel. [17:03] So what do we believe is happening with these Gentiles coming? A lot of bad things happen to the native people, but we believe that God was moving, don’t we? He was preparing the promised land for the restoration of the gospel. Because Joseph Smith was born in 1805, fourteen years after the Bill of Rights secured religious freedom. And I might add, and this is just me, but it took a while, but in 1865, the Thirteenth Amendment passed finally, which was the abolition of slavery. [17:58] So one of our patrons in the temple served a mission in Russia and told us of a man she knew in Russia who was searching on the internet for jobs in America and later on the street. He’s arrested and is still in prison. So it’s good to be reminded that despite all of our many problems in this great country, we have so much we can be thankful for. And it does seem that there are times when God moves and intervenes in human affairs and also in individual lives. [18:52] So my granddaughter, Catherine Carlston, and Cara, why don’t you come up and you can help me tell this story quick. I haven’t asked her before. This is my daughter, Cara. This happened to her daughter, not my daughter. She’s my daughter. So I’ll just start: has moved into an apartment at BYU and was assigned a girl to be her actual roommate. Go ahead. [Cara:] She’s from Guatemala. She speaks Cachiquel, also Spanish and is learning English. That language is the Mayan, what the Mayan people in the highlands speak of Guatemala. [Teacher:] Her parents were… go ahead, you can read it if you want. [Cara continues the story of the roommate:] She came from a broken family… came with her dad across the border illegally… living with him and about six or seven other men… I think there was abuse… uncle met the missionaries and was converted… brought her to church… Colombian family took her in and taught her Spanish… baptized… then financial trouble… another family took her… then they couldn’t keep her… invited by a visiting family from Florida (parents both psychologists)… adopted at fifteen… sealed… now at BYU. [Teacher:] So that was my end that, here I’m saying to Cara, oh, she’s lucky to get Catherine as a roommate. And Cara says her parents were praying that she would get a good roommate and used Catherine. So think of God moving for that young girl in her life. I know that not everybody is delivered, saved, so we have to… and I know we’re not chess pieces either, but we have to believe that he knows what he’s doing. Thanks Cara. [24:13] So Nephi in thirteen and twenty is shown a book and the book is carried forth among the Gentiles. This book verse twenty-three is from the mouth of the Jews and it contains a record of the Jews and the covenants of the Lord with the house of Israel as well as many prophecies and it’s like the plates of brass but something happened to that book as you know the book is the Bible right. And it became altered. Verse twenty-four and on. When it came from the mouth of a Jew, it contained the fullness of the gospel of the Lord of the Lamb of God. It was plain and pure. But verse twenty-six, after it goes through the great and abominable church, it has many parts which are plain and most precious, and also many covenants of the Lord have they taken away. So Nephi uses those two words, taken away or taken out, eight times. I think he’s trying to emphasize something. It means that things were not changed on purpose. They were removed from the book. There would have been errors of copyists, right? As it was copied and copied and copied, but that’s different. This is what was taken out. So when did this happen? It happened during the infighting of the Christian church in the one hundreds and two hundreds, really starting when the last of the apostles died. It was the apostasy, the falling away, and it culminated just quickly in the Council of Nicaea in A.D. 325, when the Roman Emperor Constantine said, this has to stop, we have to decide what’s happening here, and they did. We could talk about this a long time, but I’ll just say that many treasures were removed, taken out of the book and lost. Many doctrines were changed at that council. The literal resurrection was denied. Ordinances and ceremonies were made up because there was nothing in the Bible about them, and revelation was denied, and the concept of Trinity became cemented, as you know. [27:35] So in thirteen and twenty-nine, at the end of the verse, over the page, because of these things which are taken away out of the gospel of the Lamb, an exceedingly great many do stumble, yea, insomuch that Satan hath great power over them. Nevertheless—verse thirty, I just love that word—nevertheless, the Gentiles will be lifted up by the power of God above all other nations. Thirty-one, and here’s the promise, repeated by the angel to Nephi, the Lord God will not let the Gentiles utterly destroy the seed of your brothers and also of yours that are mixed in. So destroy, the basis of that word comes from destruere, which is archaic and means to break down the structure, to scatter in all directions. So to destroy is not to obliterate but to scatter, to confound. So there would still be Nephites in there. In fact Mormon in Mormon 1:5 says he is a descendant of Nephi so we know there were. [29:09] Look at verse thirty-eight. Here’s a really important verse. Nephi sees the remnant of his brothers and also the book of the Lamb of God and it came forth from the Gentiles to the remnant of the seed of his brothers. So he sees that the Gentiles will bring the book of the Lamb back to his people. I hope you don’t mind if I have a personal experience. I was once a little worried about these things that were taken out of the Bible. I would think, was it ruined? This is not how long ago, and my dad was at that time in an Alzheimer’s home. I couldn’t ask him about it as I always had done… I went down to where he was living, went in his room and picked up his scriptures and I opened it up to First Nephi thirteen and thirty-eight and written at the top of the page in big red letters it said “The Bible is the book of the Lamb of God. The Bible is the book of the Lamb of the whole Bible.” And I looked up at him and said, Dad, you are still teaching me. And he started to cry. And me too. So the Bible, the Old Testament, is the book of the people that God chose through which to bring his promise, through whose seed he would bring his own son. That was Christ’s inheritance. What he studied, what he quoted and used to teach in his ministry. Origen, one of the early Christian fathers of the three hundreds A.D. said, it is not the Old Testament which gives authority to the New Testament. Rather, the New Testament gives authority to the Old Testament. The prophetic writings, the law of Moses shone out when Jesus came. It was the coming of Jesus that set them in plain light. So I hope you will remember that as you read that this year, the Old Testament, how important it is. [32:20] Thirty-nine, there will be other books which will come out to convince the world that the records of the prophets and of the twelve apostles of the Lamb are…

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    Sept 15 2026 1 Nephi 8-12 by Morrissa Rich Sep 15, 2026
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    FINAL 1 NEPHI 8 Monday Sept 14 2026 linksDownload Transcript: Lehi’s Dream — 1 Nephi 8–12 Thank you for the love that you bring into this room, the love of the Savior, and the love of each other. This is a unique experience here, because you are here only because you want to be. Same with me. A word about my use of the slides, for those of you who weren’t here when I made this explanation last year. Because of my granny eyes, I can’t see regular font, I can’t read regular font on a regular eight-and-a-half by eleven sheet of paper. And so these slides are my notes. There are a lot of them, but that’s the way I keep track of what we’re talking about. But let’s start with Christ. Elder Holland said, at the very outset of the Book of Mormon, in its first fully developed allegory—we’re going to talk about the tree today—Christ is portrayed as the source of eternal life and joy, and the living evidence of divine love. We’re working a little bit with the mic this morning because it needs to be pretty loud for the Zoom to be effective. You can hear me okay? Am I too loud? Okay. We’re talking today about 1 Nephi. Look, I left off the “First” in Nephi. That won’t be the first error you see, or the only one. 1 Nephi 8 through 12, that’s our assignment today, is about Christ’s invitation to partake of God’s love. It’s about Lehi’s dream, it’s about Lehi and Sariah’s family, and it’s about your and my family, and it’s also about Nephi’s revelation. Scholars have interpreted this allegory in many ways, and it’s fascinating to read the many interpretations of this dream. Some have interpreted it as temple imagery, some as the Garden of Eden and the Fall, some as the Abrahamic covenant, some as the 23rd Psalm—“yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death”—and so on. It’s also been interpreted as mankind’s spiritual progression throughout his life, and a lot of others too. If you ever wanted to have a lot of fun, start looking at all the ways that this vision of Lehi has been interpreted. These chapters provide endless opportunities for learning, discussion, and inspiration. But today we will focus only on Lehi’s dream and what it can mean in our lives. That necessarily leaves out much of interest and importance. Remember, it’s going to leave out a lot of stuff. So if you leave here and say, “Why didn’t she talk about that?” don’t worry about it. The other instructors will get to it. This is not your first or last reading and learning about Lehi’s dream. As a result, you bring a wealth of insight into today’s discussion, and that’s what we’re going to do. I hope you’re sitting by someone you like, because you get a chance to talk to them today. Hi, Andrea. Are you my go-to girl? What we’re going to do is just a quick overview of Lehi’s dream and Nephi’s vision. Lehi, as you know, is shown a dark and dreary wilderness, the tree with white fruit, a river with filthy water, a rod of iron, a straight and narrow path, a mist of darkness, and a great and spacious building. Nephi is shown a guiding spirit, the tree and its meaning, Christ’s birth, baptism, and ministry, the covenant path, spiritual opposition, the scattering of Israel, pride and worldly wisdom, and the restoration of the gospel. Now, it’s not that Lehi didn’t know these things, but they weren’t all in his dream spelled out the way they were for Nephi. Lehi sees the journey of individuals toward the tree, while Nephi sees the larger story of Christ, Israel, the restoration, and the struggle between God’s kingdoms and the world. Nephi’s vision turns Lehi’s symbolic dream into a vision of Jesus Christ and the history of God’s work among His children. Nephi’s vision doesn’t replace Lehi’s vision, but it explains it and greatly expands it. As you know, Lehi’s dream shows his concern for his family’s spiritual welfare. So we’re going to talk today about what we can learn from Lehi’s dream about our own and our loved ones’ spiritual welfare. I’m going to show you a video. This is one you’ve seen before. It was part of the Come Follow Me manual, and it’s an eight-minute-long video. I’m not going to show the whole eight minutes. What I’ve done is I’ve chopped it up into segments, and we’re going to talk about those segments as we go through this lesson. Once again, remember, even though the reading covers some of Nephi’s dream—and Nancy will discuss that next week—we’re going to focus on Lehi’s experience. These are a little choppy, so don’t be disturbed if they look and sound choppy, because they are. But let’s get started. [Video clip]“I saw in my dream a dark and dreary world.”By the way, it’s dark because you can’t see it because it’s dark.“Lehi. Come with me.” So you’ve seen a dark and dreary waste, and you’ve seen Lehi offer a prayer for deliverance. He said, “And after I had traveled for the space of many hours in darkness, I began to pray unto the Lord that he would have mercy on me according to the multitude of his tender mercies.” I have a video here. This is a Church-produced video. Let’s watch that and then let’s talk about it. [Video: woman’s testimony about depression]I could draw a picture of what depression looks like. It’s chaotic. It’s dark. It’s like being literally in the middle of a storm that you cannot see what direction is up, what direction is down, and it’s just closing in on you. And you’re just desperate to see some kind of light break through the darkness, the storms, the craziness, the chaos that is just all-consuming. So 22 years ago I was pregnant with my third child, and I was not wanting to get pregnant right away, but I felt very impressed that it was time. And so I went ahead and followed that, and five months later I felt like I was losing my mind. It wasn’t just the baby blues. I wanted to lash out at people, and I didn’t enjoy anything that I once did enjoy. It was just like the lights had gone out in me, and I couldn’t figure out what had happened and what was going on. I was in my doctor’s office, and she had me take this test, and when she came in she said, “You have severe depression, major depressive disorder is what this is called.” And I remember just sitting there like in shock, because in my world at that time that meant that I didn’t have enough faith. It meant I was weak. It meant I wasn’t strong enough. And yet I had just done something courageous. So as a result, my anger toward God just got greater and greater and greater. I thought He had left, He had abandoned me, or that I was so dark and evil that this was punishment. So I go to counseling when I need to—I know when I need to—and lots of meditation, prayer, scriptures. But in the beginning none of it worked because I was so angry with God. And so although I didn’t feel like God cared, I didn’t feel like He was listening to me, I continued to go to church, I continued to read the scriptures, I never stopped praying. And so honestly I think that was one of the greatest gifts I gave myself, because three or so years into that anger, when I was finally able to listen and hear, there was a means for that to be communicated. But I also know deep in my heart that there is a greater purpose. I truly believe that going through depression is helping me to fulfill the mission that I wanted to have on earth. I’ve learned so much, not only about the character and nature of our Heavenly Father and Savior, but also the ruthlessness of the adversary and his trips, traps, and snares. And so if going through this helps me to help somebody else recognize the lies from the truth, it’s worth it. So what can be the benefit of a darkened and dreary waste? Has the Lord’s mercy delivered you or someone you know from a dark and dreary place? Have you been blessed by your experience in a dark and dreary place? How have God’s tender mercies comforted you in dark times? Now let’s take a few minutes to talk about those. Will you choose one or all of these questions and chat with the person or persons next to you and see how a dark and dreary place has been in your life or the life of someone you know—perhaps grieving for a spouse who’s died, a child you’ve lost? Will you please take a few minutes to do that? Thank you. [Discussion time] Aren’t we blessed to have each other? Tell me, is there something you’d like to share with all of us? We have a couple of mics. Something that you said or your friend said that you think we could… oh, here’s a hand here, Jill. Jill: I haven’t shared this experience before, and I don’t know—anyway, so if you’ve heard it I am so sorry—but there was a time in my life that I’d given up hope and given up trying, and it just lasted for a long time. And you don’t want to be in that dark spot. You don’t want to be in giving up hope. And I remember I woke up one night. I was functioning like a robot. You just kind of go on, do your thing and whatever. And my life is not like the storybook life. You come to earth, you gain a body, you keep the commandments—and that’s where it gets dicey. And then you go home and you’re home, meaning to our Father in Heaven, and everything’s happy and joyful and everything. That part of keeping the commandments—not that I wasn’t trying to keep the commandments, but life is hard. So anyway, long story short, I woke up in the middle of the night one night, and I was covered with perspiration. I mean, my night clothes were wet. And I’ve never been so terrified in my life. I’ve been held at gunpoint in a bank robbery, and that was a walk in the daisy field. But this was terrifying. And when the woman was going in the water and sinking, you felt the—I felt the weight of darkness. I felt the evil, and it wasn’t just air. It’s like you have this coat, this blanket or something, it’s a weight. And then I was just terrified. And then it’s like I was telling my friends here, it’s like you’re an electric outlet and you’ve been unplugged. And then instantly I was connected. And the next day I was talking to one of my clients and I said he said he’d never leave me and he left me, and she said no he didn’t, he came after you and you were connected. And I could tell the second I was connected again. And I thought when I got up, I thought I’m never going to go there again. No way. I’m going to do whatever I can to get back. So it’s real. It’s real when we have our challenges and we should never judge. Thank you. Thank you for that comment. You guys are awesome. Okay, moving along. So he’s through the darkened… thank you, sister. Let’s watch what happens next. [Video]“As I partook of the fruit, it filled my soul with exceedingly great joy, wherefore I began to be desirous that my family should partake of it also.”“They would not come unto me.”“And it came to pass that I beheld a tree, whose fruit was desirable to make one happy. And it came to pass that I did go forth and partake of the fruit thereof, and beheld that it was most sweet above all that I had ever tasted.” Elder Maxwell has a comment about that. The tree of life is the love of God. The love of God for His children is most profoundly expressed in His gift of Jesus as our Redeemer. God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son. To partake of the love of God is to partake of Jesus’s atonement and the emancipations and joys which it can bring. To partake of the love of God—this, Elder Maxwell just said—to partake of the love of God is to partake of Jesus’s atonement and the emancipation and joys which it brings. Do you find the love of God emancipating and freeing? Have you experienced tasting the fruit, the love of God? He goes on to say, “Wherefore I began to be desirous that my family should partake of it also, for I knew that it was desirable above all other fruit.” And this question: What advice would you give young parents about how best to invite their children to partake of the fruit? How, what advice would you give? Anyone. How do you get them to partake of the fruit? Class member: I think that one of the most important things to teach your children is that you have joy in the fruit. Thank you. The perfect answer. Are you freed by the fruit? Are you joyous because of the fruit? Does your life reflect that joy, that freedom? “And it came to pass that I was desirous that Laman and Lemuel should come and partake of the fruit also. But they would not come unto me and partake of the fruit.” How have you dealt with the heartache when a loved one rejected the love of God? Think about these questions. Well, let’s go on. We come to a rod of iron. Let’s listen to that. [Scripture reading / video]“And it extended along the bank of the river, and led to the tree by which I stood. And I also beheld a straight and narrow path, which came along by the rod of iron, even to the tree by which I stood. And it also led by the head of the fountain unto a large and spacious field, as if it had been a world. And I saw numberless concourses of people, many of whom were pressing forward, that they might obtain the path which led unto the tree. And it came to pass that there arose a mist of darkness, yea, even an exceedingly great mist of darkness, insomuch that they who had commenced in the path did lose their way, that they wandered off and were lost. I beheld others pressing forward, and they came forth and caught hold of the end of the rod of iron. And they did press forward through the mist of darkness, clinging to the rod of iron, even until they did come forth and partake of the fruit of the tree. I beheld on the other side of the river of water a great and spacious building, and it stood as it were in the air, high above the earth.” Well, time for a rest song. Judy Allen and Feline Loveland, my friends, have agreed to lead us in this song. Now, this is an old song, you know this one, but I do have the lyrics on the screen, so you don’t have to get your book out of your phone. “The Iron Rod.” This is a song by Clayson and Townsend. And once again, it’s an old Mormon hymn. And you get to sing it with me. So the lyrics on the screen, there are four verses. There are actually five to the song, but we usually only sing the first three. But the fourth one I thought had application to you and me, so we’ll sing that one also, and that’ll be on the screen. And then we’ll sing the chorus after we’ve sung the verses, all of the verses first, okay? Come on down, girls. [Congregation sings “The Iron Rod”] Well, that was an experiment. Did it succeed? Sure. The verse we… this is the verse, number four. “And hand in hand… this is talking about you and me… the rod along through each succeeding day with earnest prayer and hopeful song, we’ll still pursue our way.” Well, like I say, it was an experiment. I got permission to do that, by the way. I don’t pull those on you without permission. And I’ve included this picture, which you know, and I know, this is a favorite of ours… James Christensen’s portrayal of the iron rod. Is that you and me, burdened with all kinds of things, holding all kinds of stuff, so that our hands aren’t free to reach up and grab the rod? Oops. “And it came to pass that there arose a mist of darkness, yea, even an exceedingly great mist of darkness, insomuch that they who had commenced in the path did lose their way, that they wandered off and were lost.” I asked my husband what he thinks an example of a mist of darkness is, and this is what he said: the one time in his life that he walked through a casino, he felt a great mist of darkness, especially as he walked by the people playing the slot machines. What present-day mists of darkness lead some who had commenced on the path to lose their way? What present-day mists of darkness? Judy: Getting too involved in social media. I’ll repeat that. Getting too involved in social media. Anyone else? Thank you, Judy, right on. Anyone else? Okay, my dear friends, you’re not too involved in social media, right? And you have not lost your way. Do you know anyone who has, whom you love, and are heartbroken? Well, let’s…

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    Sept 8 2026 1 Nephi 2-7 by Anita Leimbach Sep 08, 2026
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    Sisters in Scripture 9826 pdfDownload TranscriptDuration: ~47 minutes I am excited to be here because I’ve learned how to rename my emotions. Instead of saying I’m nervous, I’m excited. I have to tell you, this spring I retired from teaching after fifty years. So this is a really hard thing for me to be right here, right now, and not say a few things that I’ve been saying for fifty years. I’m glad you’re all here. They haven’t given me a role, and I will just say, you can sit by your friends today, but if there’s a problem, I am not above making a seating chart. Okay? And extra points for everybody who read the sign and picked up the piece of paper on the chairs as we came out—you get extra points on that. All right, so today we are—these last few weeks we are starting reading the Book of Mormon, and I’ve got to tell you, I thought, how many hundreds of times have the ladies in this room read the Book of Mormon? I bet if we tallied up all the numbers of times you personally have read the Book of Mormon, we’d be in the hundreds and maybe the thousands. And I thought, what in the world can I bring to this group with all the times that we’ve read the Book of Mormon? No, I’m fine. Thanks. Is this better? Oh yeah, okay. All right, so I thought what I’m gonna ask you is: how are you going to read the Book of Mormon this time? I don’t know if you remember this a few years ago, President Nelson talked about reading the Book of Mormon, and this is how he looks when he’s reading the Book of Mormon. He says the Book of Mormon is filled with truth. If you read it daily, you will have more truth and power in your life. It teaches us about the premortal world and the purpose of life. It gives more understanding about the atonement of Jesus Christ than any other book of scripture, and teaches us about the reality of God the Father, his son Jesus Christ, and the holy priesthood. Studying daily from its pages will affect your life in a way no other book can. Well, I gotta be honest. This is not how typically I read the Book of Mormon. Although this is how I read the Book of Mormon this last week for preparing this lesson. But I had an issue, and I’m old enough now that I can’t tell you if this was three years or twenty-five years ago, but I think it was about fifteen years ago. I looked at it—it was time to start the Book of Mormon again—and I thought, I’m not getting that much out of it. I’ve read it a number of times, and this is how I’m reading it: blah, blah, blah. Oh, here’s this story where Nephi has a dream, blah, blah, blah. Oh, they go back to Jerusalem, blah, blah, blah. Oh, here’s the Liahona, here’s this, oh, here’s Second Nephi. I was reading story to story and mark scripture to mark scripture. That’s how I was reading the Book of Mormon. And I thought, I’ve got to do something different. So I looked at different Book of Mormons, and I brought a few here today that I looked at. Some people call this the Old Faithful or the Blue Book. This is the one I read in seminary. I call it the steroid edition, because it’s the first one with the Arnold Friberg illustrations in it. Think about that. I’m going to say that once more. I call it the steroid edition because it has the Arnold Friberg illustrations in it. And it doesn’t have many footnotes, and the footnotes it has are all just within the Book of Mormon. Nowadays you can buy a facsimile of the 1830 edition of the Book of Mormon, and it’s interesting because it’s in chapters, but there’s no verses. And when you read it, it’s more like re-reading a story, a narrative. But I looked at it—my eyes are bad, the printing is not really easy to read. I didn’t look at this very long, but this is a 1920 edition where they put the first time they did double columns, and they have scriptures and chapters and verses. And then if you remember when President Hinckley was making the big outreach to the world, he actually allowed indie book publishers to publish versions for like Barnes and Noble, for bookstores. And this one, it says Another Testament of Christ, it’s got chapter and verses, no footnotes. It’s the 1920 version. And then this one that was written by Penguin, because it is a Penguin classic, and it is actually the 1840 edition of the Book of Mormon. It was the last edition edited by Joseph Smith before he was killed. I got quite excited about this, you can see. Then I got this version, the Book of Mormon Restored Covenant edition. This is by the RLDS, Community of Christ now. Version, which is the 1908 edition. It’s got all the verses, but the book of Nephi, there’s only seven chapters, so think how long those chapters are. So only divided into seven chapters. And I was really excited about this because it has all the words of Christ in red. And when I was a kid, the Bible we had at our house had all the words of Christ in red. And I thought, oh, this is pretty good. And then this is a gift issue edition of the Book of Mormon. I got to be honest, I think this is way too dangerous to read unless you’re sitting at a table, because if I should drop this or fall asleep or something, it would kill you if it dropped on you. But I liked it because it’s got all the illustrations by Minerva Teichert. So this is the post-steroid edition of the Book of Mormon. Well, I didn’t recite on any of those, but I knew I needed to do it in a different way. And then I remembered, wait a minute, you’re a reading teacher. And I had an aha moment. I remembered I was a reading teacher. I had an aha moment. And I said, I remember something that I have been teaching my reading classes for years. And so this is what I did. I got a two-dollar Book of Mormon from distribution. No markings in it at all. And I said, we say it’s another testament of Christ. I’m going to prove it. And so I got my red pencil out and I said, as I read this Book of Mormon, I am going to mark every time Christ speaks or there’s a prophecy about Christ, anything to do with Christ, and that’s how I’m going to read this Book of Mormon. And I will tell you, it was the best reading I have ever done of the Book of Mormon. In fact, when I finished, I said, I think I’d like to read it again, but how am I going to do it this time? And I decided to turn my red-blue pencil upside down and use the blue side, and this time I went through and marked all the times that they talked about the atonement. And I was astounded that with the exception of one book—and now I can’t remember the book, I think it’s Words of Mormon—there was something I marked in every book of Mormon about the atonement. So I thought, what better way—and it is the first day of school for me—so everybody who picked up a piece of paper from the back, if you would pick up that, get your piece of paper, and if you didn’t, hurry and grab one. This is the cheesiest, crappiest handout you’ll ever get in this building, because it’s a piece of paper, and you have to make it yourself. So this is what I call—well, let me go. This is the piece of paper. If you don’t want to do this, I can’t imagine why not, you can on a piece of paper with yourself just draw two lines. But what I want you to do is take your piece of paper and you’re going to fold it in thirds. Hold it landscape, fold it in thirds. You didn’t know there was going to be arts and crafts today, did you? Okay. What you’ve just made, we in the education biz call a graphic organizer. And this organizer is a KWL chart. And the KWL chart stands for something important. And you will put a K, a W, and an L at the head of each column because we are going to set a purpose for reading. The reason I got so much out of reading the Book of Mormon when I was looking for Christ and when I was looking for the atonement is because I set a purpose for reading. I wasn’t just reading from story to story. It wasn’t just another reading. So, Know is under the first column. The second column is What I Want to Know. And the third column is Learn. Now under the Know column, we’re not—I’m not going to worry about that today because I know you know a lot about the Book of Mormon. And you can fill this out if you want or you don’t have to, but maybe you just know that this is a book of scripture, I have a testimony of it, whatever you feel like you need to know, but I don’t care what you put, if you put anything. Here’s the most important column right now: What I Want to Know. And when I started, the first time I did, I said, where is Christ in the Book of Mormon? That’s what I put on my chart. The second time through, I said, what about the atonement in the Book of Mormon? And as I was contemplating the lesson this week, Nephi 2 through 7, I thought, all these women in here are going to know these stories backwards and forwards. What can I do? What can I see in this that is more than just the narrative? What am I going to see? And this is what I came up with: How can I, Anita, hear the voice of the Lord? And as I read this, I started paying attention to every time the Lord speaks or makes manifest something that he wants done. Now, we’re going to leave the Learn blank because that is what I would expect that you would do at the end of these two years of what you’re reading and see what you find out about the Book of Mormon in your reading. It’s just a suggestion, okay? But it’s a good suggestion. And for years, the missionaries have been saying to people when they give them a Book of Mormon, they say Moroni 10:4. And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true. And if ye ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you by the power of the Holy Ghost. Everybody’s heard that verse? I look at it, it sets a purpose for reading. Why are you reading the Book of Mormon? This is the purpose that’s been set. Now, I’m looking at hearing the voice of the Lord in these chapters, and I remember a book in our little Relief Society book group. We read it a few years ago, a book called Hearing the Voice of the Lord: Principles and Patterns of Personal Revelation. And in this, I thought it was a really good book, but in this he has a little chart. And this is my disclaimer. I’m giving you—I’m showing you the chart because he says there’s all sorts of ways we can listen and hear the voice of the Lord. And I would like you to just shout out, how does the Lord speak to us? I just like a couple of things. Somebody tell me how they—how the Lord speaks to people. Thoughts in your mind. Is that less direct or more direct? If you had to put it on a continuum. You what? Absolutely. Okay. Speak to your mind. Something else. An actual vision. Okay. We’ve got visions. We have angels. We have literal voices, we have thoughts. I’m gonna show you, this is his continuum, and first of all, most direct: visitations from the Godhead or angels; less direct: the light of Christ. Visions, still small voice to mind and heart, audible voice, intervention or change of outcomes, dreams. And I’m gonna put this because most of my—in my life, most of my experiences where I know have been on the mind, and I am going, and I thought my aha experience in remembering: discernment, voice in mind, or sometimes in your heart, peace, burning, stupor, mourning, feels right, negative feelings—all of those are ways the Lord speaks. So this is what we’re going to look at in Nephi 2 to 7. But first, I want to go back to Nephi 1 because it starts right out in it. Nancy talked about this last week, but I just want to—I’m trying to prove my point to you that you can find what you’re looking for here. In 1 Nephi 1 verse 6: suddenly, and it came to pass as he prayed unto the Lord, there came a pillar of fire and dwelt upon a rock before him, and he saw and heard much. Less direct, more direct. You decide. And it came to pass that he returned to his own house at Jerusalem, and he cast himself upon his bed, being overcome with the spirit and the things which he had seen. And being thus overcome with the spirit, he was carried away in a vision, even that he saw the heavens open, and he thought he saw God sitting upon his throne, surrounded with numberless concourses of angels in the attitude of singing and praising God. And it came to pass that he saw one descending out of the midst of heaven, and he beheld that his lustre was above that of the sun at noonday. And he also saw twelve others following him, and their brightness did exceed that of the stars in the firmament. And they came down and went forth upon the face of the earth, and the first came and stood before my father, and gave unto him a book, and bade him that he should read. And it came to pass that as he read, he was filled with the spirit of the Lord. Man, if we were checking the boxes off, we would have checked a lot of those, hearing the voice of the Lord in those few verses. All right. Nephi 2, and it starts with verse 1. For it came to pass that the Lord spake unto my father, yea, even in a dream, and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Lehi, because of the things which thou hast done, and because thou hast been faithful, and declared unto this people the things which I commanded thee. Behold, they seek to take away thy life. And it came to pass that the Lord commanded my father, even in a dream, that he should take his family, and depart into the wilderness. So here now we’ve introduced dreams. And then I decided I’m gonna start and look at what do I need to do to prepare myself to hear the voice of the Lord, because we’re gonna see lots of examples of people who hear the voice, and people who don’t. Now this he spake, verse 11: Now this he spake because of the stiffneckedness of Laman and Lemuel, for behold, they did murmur in many things against their father. If you want to know a recurring motif in the Book of Mormon, murmuring. We’re gonna see that tons. Because they murmured against their father because he was a visionary man and had led them out of the land of Jerusalem, to leave the land of their inheritance and their gold and their silver and their precious things, to perish in the wilderness, and this they said he had done because of the foolish imaginations of his heart. And thus Laman and Lemuel, being the oldest, did murmur against their father, and they did murmur because they knew not the dealings of that God who created them. Neither did they believe that Jerusalem, that great city, could be destroyed according to the words of the prophets. And they were like unto the Jews who were at Jerusalem, who sought to take away the life of my father. And it came to pass, in verse 14, that my father did speak unto them in the valley of Lemuel with power, being filled with the Spirit, until their frames did shake before him. And he did confound them, that they durst not utter against him; wherefore they did as he commanded them. Now Lehi was able to—I don’t know that he was able to convince them but he was able to get them to do what he wanted to do. We’ll talk about this later about the difference between winning and winning over. And it came to pass that I, Nephi, being exceedingly young, nevertheless being large in stature—now this is written by Nephi and as I’m going through at this time I’m picking up little bits of his personality and I just want you to think I think he was pretty proud of being large in stature because he mentions it fairly regularly, okay? So he’s also having great desires to know of the mysteries of God, wherefore I did cry unto the Lord; and behold he did visit me, and did soften my heart that I did believe all the words which had been spoken by my father; wherefore I did not rebel against him like unto my brothers. And I spake unto Sam, making known unto him the things which the Lord had manifested unto me by his Holy Spirit. And it came to pass that he believed in my words. 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    Sept 1 2026 Intro to Book of Mormon by Nancy Baird Sep 01, 2026
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    Transcript(~50 min 42 sec | Book of Mormon class, opening lesson on 1 Nephi 1) Nancy (teacher):This is different, in a while. And I sat there with that light coming in and started to cry, so it’s not a good start for me. It was just so beautiful, and I could hear you talking. And so I wanted to say—and plus I see my children—and oh, anyway, it’s a great honor to be here, and I also thank you for being here. We have two years on the Book of Mormon. My brother-in-law said, “What are you teaching?” And I said, “Book of Mormon.” Big pause. He said, “Well, that’s nothing to know anything about.” So we’ll try. And we have a couple of new teachers that are wonderful. Hello, Emily. Is it two? Yeah, I don’t know how to—if I knew how I would, or I could put it out. Then you can see my face. It’s not boring. It’s deep. It’s wild and deep, what we will be studying. Psalm 42 says, “Deep calleth unto deep. In the roar of thy waterfalls all thy waves and thy billows are gone over me.” Deep calleth unto deep. And Joseph Smith from Liberty Jail said, “Thy mind, O man, must stretch as high as the utmost heavens and search and contemplate the darkest abyss, and must be introduced into the society of the most ancient and greatest of beings.” Deep call upon the deep. So we were—let me just pause and say that occasionally I stutter. Don’t be nervous. I was just listening to an actor, this very handsome man, and they were interviewing him on NPR and said, “Now I heard that you stutter.” And he said, “Yeah, not when I act, but when I get home and let it loose.” Love this guy. Anyway, I don’t really even think about it. Well, I hope you don’t. Okay. We were on a late trip in San Diego this July, and we had bought tickets—a couple of us, a few of us—to the Chris Stapleton concert. But at the last minute the adults couldn’t go, or didn’t want to go, and so my husband John took all the teenagers to it. And they were on the grass, and every few inches there were beer venues, you know. And the day before, everyone had been—all 28 of us went to the San Diego Temple Open House. So a couple of days after the concert and the Open House we were having a family gathering, and John, my husband, asked the 14-year-old Jackson what the difference was between the Open House and the Chris Stapleton concert. And he said, “Well, there was a lot more beer at the concert.” And you gotta think about what I just said. You gotta love 14-year-olds, right? I think he was joking, but with Jackson you can never tell. Anyway, so my friends, let’s see this year if we can go deep into this beautiful, beautiful book. Leave the beer behind—which is, you know, I mean the world behind—and find openings into another world. Thomas O’Dea, a Catholic sociologist, wrote many years ago that the Book of Mormon has not been universally considered by its critics as one of those books that must be read in order to have an opinion of it. So, 1 Nephi 5:5 and 10, and we’ll start with the word. When Lehi gets the plates after his sons have brought them from Jerusalem at such cost, what does Lehi do? You don’t have to read it, but I can tell you. He takes them in his hands, and he holds them, and begins to search them and to read them. He probably had never held them before. He was not a Levite, he was not a priest. Didn’t have access. Only Laban had access to the scripture and maybe a few elders. If anybody’s out there, you can—I mean, please come in. There’s a few up here, and we don’t care. Anyway, and Lehi holding them is so overwhelmed that he begins to prophesy and worship. And I think he began to weep. I’m sure he did, holding those which he had never held himself, been able to read himself. And he says they will never be dimmed by time. So what book is he holding? What are those brass plates? See, I’ll allow you one. The Old Testament, or parts of it—the Torah, the prophets, up to Jeremiah. So right here, these books that we have are the Torah and the prophets and the writings. And of course Hebrew, you go backwards, right? But you can see the Hebrew and the translation over here. So that’s what he’s holding, right? In his hands. This is an older one that I got from one of my children, I think. It’s beautiful. In Nehemiah 8:1–9, Ezra, priest and scribe, has come back from exile with a few of the Jews. This is fifth century. Nehemiah 8:1, the people have gathered at the Water Gate in Jerusalem, and Ezra brings the book of the law of Moses before the congregation, both of men and women and all that could hear with understanding, and he begins to read from the book and cause them to understand what he was reading. And when he opened it, all the people—I’m sorry, I cry every time I read this—all the people stood up, lifted their hands, and bowed their heads and began to weep. Why did they weep? Why did those people being carried along most? Because for the first time it was not reserved only for the priests. It was for them. It was for the people, God’s people, and they were included. Anyway, go to 1 Nephi 1, and the story begins. So after his opening paragraph, which in the original Book of Mormon were one paragraph, Nephi begins with his father’s experience, Lehi’s experience, which he took from Lehi’s own record, the Book of Lehi, which was in a portion of the large plates. Lehi’s out walking around Jerusalem, listening to the prophets. You’ve been there—it’s a very windy, narrow little place. I’m trying to imagine where the prophets were at places that, you know, intersect, or where are they that he’s listening to. And they’re all prophesying doom for Jerusalem, for Israel, and Lehi begins to pray. This is 1:6. And as he prayed, there came a pillar of fire and dwelt upon a rock, and there was probably someone in the fire—there usually is in scripture. So he goes home, verses 7 and 8, and lies on his bed, and is carried away in a vision, and he sees the heavens open. Now John the Revelator in Revelation 4:1 says, “I looked and behold a door was opened in heaven.” So it’s the same experience. And I think it slid open like a sliding glass door, because I’ve seen it once. Where do you think heaven is? You can just think. Brigham Young said heaven is all around us. It’s on the earth. It’s around the earth. That’s in Discourses of Brigham Young. Anyway, verse 8 of chapter 1, Nephi writes that Lehi thinks he sees God on his throne with angels all around, as also John saw. And then Lehi [sees] one descending out of the midst of heaven, and he beheld that his luster was above that of the sun at noonday. So here we have the first mention of Jesus Christ in verse 8 already. And after this, he’s everywhere in the book, as you know. Verse 10, there are twelve others with him who go out on the face of the earth. And verses 11 and 12, and then the one stands in front of Lehi and gave unto him a book and tells him that he should read the book. And as he reads, he was filled with the Spirit of the Lord. If we knew that every time we read God’s word we would be filled with the Spirit, would we read it more? So Lehi, verse 13, reads a prophecy that Jerusalem will be destroyed and the people in it killed and taken captive by Babylon. So here’s a question. Why is it that Lehi is to read the prophecy instead of being told the prophecy? Why is he handed a book to read? It’s almost as strange as in Revelation when John is told by an angel to eat the book, and it would be sweet as honey. The book would have been a scroll like this, right? So John does, and he eats the book, and also Ezekiel is told the exact same thing: eat the book. And Ezekiel eats it, and then… say it’s bitter in their stomach. They’d probably about throw up. Sorry. Anyway, it’s very interesting, I think. Okay? So this summer I read a book that I haven’t read since I was probably in high school. This is Jane Eyre. I mean, and then I looked, I started to read about it. It’s one of the great novels in the world that have ever been written. And it was so wonderful. I was walking around the corner of my house, and I had not really started this, and I thought, I wish I could just eat that book. It’s a very human thing. I thought it was. And then afterwards I remembered, it’s very human to read and to read. But isn’t that a great mystery that Lehi is told to read? To read means to riddle. So when you read, you unriddle, and thus you are starting to think about in scripture about the mind of God that’s beginning to come into you and you’re unriddling it. And so that is what’s happening here. We are seeing, we are unriddling God through Nephi’s mind, and he’s all through Nephi’s mind. So here’s a thought that just when Lehi and his family are about to leave Jerusalem, and the brass plates will become crucial, Lehi is given a book to read. We have this book to unriddle, begun by Nephi, carried through and abridged by Mormon, finished by Moroni—the three great narrators of the book. And there are main, minor ones, but those are the three great narrators: Mormon, Moroni, and Nephi. This is probably a good place to say that when we are reading a book, we should be aware that there is almost always two minds present, and occasionally three minds are present, when you have a prophet who quotes prophets who quotes other prophets. So you are reading through three minds working at the same time, and they’re all—there are sources that are being used, like letters and sermons and lists and poetry and geography and genealogy. It’s a complex book when you really read it as a book instead of just looking up topics, which is what I hope we can do this year. So let’s go back to what was happening in Lehi’s world. Verse 4, chapter 1 is when it really begins. “In the commencement of the first year of the reign of Zedekiah, king of Judah, there came many prophets prophesying unto the people that they must repent, or the great city of Jerusalem must be destroyed.” So Zedekiah is in his first year as king. The Babylonians have put him on the throne, almost like a puppet king. He was the brother of the previous king, Jehoiakim, whom they killed or captured, and they changed Zedekiah’s name from Mattaniah to Zedekiah. He is twenty-one years old. Later, when he rebels against the Babylonians, they kill his sons in front of him and then put out his eyes. One son, Mulek, escapes, as we know from Helaman, and twenty-one, but that comes later. And if you want to read about this, it’s all in 2 Kings chapters 24 and 25. It’s really an amazing read to read this background in the Book of Kings. So who are the many prophets who are prophesying unto the people that Nephi tells us about? Who are these prophets to be knowing? Well, I think Jeremiah was one of them, although he was in prison at the time. Class member: Jeremiah, he’s the big one. Nancy: Lehi mentions him in 1 Nephi 7. He said they have rejected the prophets, and Jeremiah had been cast into prison. Also at that time were the prophets Obadiah, and maybe Nahum, Habakkuk, and Zephaniah, although the times are kind of fluid, so we’re not sure. But they would have been contemporary with Lehi, and they’re all in the Old Testament. So in Jeremiah we read, “I have sent also unto you all my servants the prophets.” So does that include Lehi? Well, I think so, because he was there. So here’s a little bit about Jeremiah. God tells Jeremiah to write the words he has given him. He’s thrown into prison, and Zedekiah burns his scrolls, because he doesn’t like what’s on them, because they’re negative about himself. So when Jeremiah gets out of prison, he goes straight to Baruch, his scribe, and they write it all down again. Personally, I think we should read—this is me—but Jeremiah along with the Book of Mormon. This great prophet who taught us how to pray, how to worship, how to understand God. He’s a great prophet. One more thing that’s really important, I think, to understand is that something else was happening in the world when Lehi and his family leave in chapter 2, about 600 BC. So what is happening in the history of the world? Well, the founders of most of the world’s great religions all appear. It’s quite an amazing thing. Contemporary with Lehi: Buddha, Confucius, Lao Tzu, Zarathustra, Pythagoras—they all appear in these few years. So what is happening? Why would this happen? Perhaps God is moving, preparing the world for something big to happen. He’s moving. It’s a really interesting topic. 1 Nephi 1:19–20. This is about Lehi being out, the prophets of Ammon. “The Jews did mock him because of the things which he testified of them, for he truly testified of their wickedness and their abominations, and he testified that the things which he saw and heard, and also the things which he read in the book, manifested plainly of the coming of a Messiah, and also the redemption of the world. And when the Jews heard these things they were angry with him, even as with the prophets of old, whom they had cast out and stoned and slain; and they sought his life, that they might take it away.” So why did they want to kill Lehi? Why kill him? They mock him when he speaks of their wickedness—“the Jews did mock him because of the things which he testified of them”—but they tried to kill him when he speaks of the coming of a Messiah. Why does that specific prophecy enrage them? I was listening to a little podcast on Instagram from Moon’s Rare Books, and the man that owns Moon’s was speaking of this rare edition of the Book of Mormon that he had to sell, and the comments below, you know, as you can read them, were pretty interesting. They range from “burn it, just burn it,” “use it as toilet paper,” to others saying it changed their lives and it was the most important book in the world. Why burn it? Who cares if we have it? Why the anger? Because of the truth of God, as Nephi says, and also in 2 Nephi 28:20: “For behold, at that day shall the devil rage in the hearts of the children of men, and stir them up to anger against that which is good.” This is Enos 1:14 about the Lamanites: “And they swore in their wrath that, if it were possible, they would destroy our records and us, and also all the traditions of our fathers.” This is a big topic, I think: why people want to destroy what’s good, or as Nephi puts it, those who have dwindled in unbelief seek to destroy the things of God. And it will rear its ugly head over and over again, as it does even today. So let me ask you this: what is the purpose of the Book of Mormon? And this one you can— Class member: To bring people to Christ. To bring people to Christ. To testify of Christ. Nancy: To testify of Christ. Okay. Good answer. I mean, they’re all—I’m sure the answer’s in your head—good answers. But I want you to think what you think it is. I mean, I’ve written a few. Class member: I also think purpose is to bring people to the Book of Mormon. Nancy: To bring people to the Book of Mormon. And it opened their eyes, opened others’ eyes to come and look. That’s a good answer. We can read Nephi’s purpose. I’ll just read it to you. 1 Nephi 6:4: “to persuade men to come unto the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, and be saved.” And then he writes in 2 Nephi 4 to write the things of my soul and many of the scriptures that were on the brass plates. Thought over the years is to bring us home to the Father through the Son, which is why we even need the magnificent Son. But is it only to return? Is it only to teach us of Christ? Because once we get home, then what? Class member: You may speak. It’s part of the gathering and being descendants and promise, the promises of our fathers of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to make covenants and bring us home. Okay, yes. It should be a warning and a warning to us today of what we may be facing. Class member: Yeah, and to teach the doctrine, and so to invite us to act, so we are not only learning the Christ, but we’re becoming like him. Nancy: Okay, on that one I’m going to stop and tell you what I think. Because when we…

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