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Shameless Leadership

Welcome to Shameless Leadership! This show is for women, transgender people, non-binary folks, and allies who are committed to advancing their leadership and the leadership of those around them. In this space, we believe everyone deserves to feel seen, heard, valued, and supported. Our mission is to help you foster these feelings within your own circles of influence to build trust, psychological safety, and a culture of belonging.
In each episode, we dive into essential topics impacting women in leadership – everything from shutting down your inner critic and imposter syndrome to overcoming perfectionism to using your voice in new ways to advocate for yourself, your ideas, and other folks carrying marginalized identities. You’ll hear practical tips, effective strategies, and inspiring stories that will not only enhance your leadership skills but also broaden your perspective to become a more confident, thoughtful, and empathetic leader.
Our stories come from people carrying identities who are often underrepresented, underestimated, and excluded. By sharing their experiences, we aim to provide you with invaluable lessons that will transform your leadership journey. We are thrilled to have you join this community of Shameless Leaders who are actively creating a world where everyone, regardless of gender, can intentionally lead through a more curious, compassionate, and inclusive lens.

Latest Episodes:

372: CrisMarie Campbell and Susan Clarke: The Beauty of Conflict Sep 18, 2019

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CrisMarie Campbell and Susan Clarke are the co-founders of Thrive Inc. They’ve spent 20 years helping men, women, couples, and teams to resolve difficult conflicts and create strong, thriving relationships. They’ve written two books: The Beauty of Conflict and The Beauty of Conflict for Couples. They’ve given presentations on conflict resolution, communication, teamwork, and creative problem-solving at Fortune 100 companies like Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft, AT&T, and Nationwide, as well as, at organizations like the Gates Foundation, University of Washington Medical Center, and San Francisco Giants and many others. They also run transformational retreats for couples several times a year, including Couples Mojo and Couples Alive. They live and work in Northwest Montana.

As someone who has historically been pretty conflict avoidant and was raised by two very conflict avoidant parents, I knew this conversation would be a good one for me to participate in! I learned a lot in this conversation and walked away with some new strategies that I’m excited to take with me in order to lean into tension instead of run like hell to get away from it.

Listen in to hear CrisMarie and Susan share:

Why conflict, not romance, is the key to a lasting relationship
Why walking into tension is important and powerful
How to use the 5-5-5 method of conflict resolution
How to grow and evolve in a partnership to share dreams and needs
Why compatibility is NOT the secret to a long and fulfilling relationship
Why you need to show up as a “FULL ME” in your partnership

Links mentioned:

Shameless Mom Con 2020 tickets are available!! Early Bird tickets and buddy tickets are on super sale here: Click Funnels
Connect with CrisMarie and Susan
Get their book: Beauty of Conflict
Connect with CrisMarie and Susan on Instagram
Connect with CrisMarie and Susan on Facebook

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371: Train People How To Treat You Sep 16, 2019

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People will treat you according to your boundaries. If you let people walk all over you, they’ll keep walking all over you. If you let people spit on your face in the middle of your living room (or on Facebook), they’ll keep doing it.

You have every right to have high standards and high expectations around how others are allowed to treat you.

It’s ok to expect people to act in high integrity.

It’s ok to let people know certain things don’t fly.

It’s ok to draw a line in the sand and say, “NO MORE.”

You deserve to be treated like the queen you are. You deserve to expect and demand respect from others. And when that doesn’t happen, you need to make it clear that it’s not ok and you will not stand for it.

Listen in to learn 5 ways how you can better train people how to treat you #everydamnday - including powerful and painful examples from my own life and a major lesson from the queen herself, Brene Brown.

Links Mentioned:

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370: Michelle Barry Franco: The Power & Gifts of Transformational Speaking Sep 11, 2019

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Michelle Barry Franco is a Shameless Mom to three teen daughters who works with founders and entrepreneurs, especially coaches & wellness experts, who want to become recognized leaders in their industry through speaking and thought leadership. She has helped many clients share their message and story on TEDx stages and at the best conferences in their industry, and along the way grow thriving businesses that make a positive difference in the world. Michelle is the author of Beyond Applause: Make a Meaningful Difference through Transformational Speaking and is the host of The Thought Leadership School podcast.

Listen in to hear Michelle share:

How the death of her brother to alcoholism turned her on to public speaking when she was just a teenager
How to build your own stage instead of waiting for others to invite you on theirs
How to get started as a speaker
If you should speak for free or only paid gigs
How speaking impacts identity (in all the best ways)

Links mentioned:

Shameless Mom Con 2020 tickets are available!! Early Bird tickets are on super sale here: Shameless Mom
Get a free digital copy of Michelle’s book: Beyond Applause: Make a Meaningful Difference through Transformational Speaking
Connect with Michelle: Michelle Barry Franco and The Thought Leadership School
Instagram
Facebook
LinkedIn

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369: Lessons Learned While Embracing Adventure Over Chaos Sep 09, 2019

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I took a serious vow 10 weeks ago.

I vowed to embrace adventure over chaos for the summer.

I embraced this mission with all my heart.

I had a strategic plan.

I had a support crew.

I had hope.

And even with all that, this mission was HARD.

There is no denying that there were moments of magic this summer. There were plenty of those. And for that, I’m beyond grateful.

But I’m ending this season exhausted and in need of rest and reflection to figure out how I can do better next year.

Even in the face of fatigue, there were some valuable takeaways from my “adventure over chaos” mission.

I learned:

I can be wildly productive in short stints of time if that’s all I have
I can keep my business growing outside of the structure and routine I typically thrive in
I can ask for help and everyone will immediately lean in to help me
I can compartmentalize work and play more than I thought I could (barely, lol)
My simple routines keep me grounded, even in chaos (morning practice and workouts, mainly)
In the absence of full days to myself, small blocks of restorative time make a big difference
I’m not as immune to mom guilt as I thought I was

Listen in to this full episode if you’re also recovering from a season of overwhelm OR approaching a season of overwhelm. There are some powerful lessons shared that will help you through the hustle!

Links mentioned:

Shameless Mom Con 2020 tickets are available!! Early Bird tickets are on super sale here: Shameless Mom

Thank you to our sponsors:

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368: Liza Harper: Destigmatizing Divorce Sep 04, 2019

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Liza Harper is a Shameless Mom, a divorce coach, and lover of personal growth and meditation who has a passion for helping women breakthrough divorce! She has helped many through coaching and development in the corporate world for over 17 years and now shares these same skills and life experience to help women navigate their divorce and live their new beginning. As a twice-divorced single mom of three, she knows firsthand how scary divorce can be. With the right tools, time, and allowance of love and acceptance of where you are, creating your new beginning is right on the horizon- and she is here to help you get there and Live By your DESIGN.

Listen in to hear Liza share:

Her experience of weathering two very different divorces while raising small children
How to navigate the post-divorce learning curve to rebuild a life and define new boundaries
Why you should get excited about forgiveness and the magic behind it
How to navigate co-parenting with a partner who is stuck in a highly emotional, highly reactive space
The evolution of the stigma around divorce and why she completely owns her divorces rather than hiding them

Links Mentioned:

live By Design
Instagram
Work with Liza by emailing her at liza@livebydesign.me and using Shameless Mom in the subject line

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367: 3 Back To School Routines You Need Now Sep 02, 2019

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September is the new January 1 for moms. Truly.

We drop our kids off at school - FINALLY - and instantly have a renewed sense of self (and freedom!!) after a summer of adventure and chaos.

So, let’s treat this season appropriately. Let’s hunker down and dig into new habits (or the reintegration of old habits that fell by the wayside over the last 3 months.)

Let’s get back to what serves us as women, as leaders, as the CEOs of our lives.

Let’s get back to our proactive, planning selves who refuse to spend one more day in the exhausting existence of summer reactivity (please tell me I’m not the only one who got trapped here for a few weeks?!)

In today’s episode, I’m going to walk you through 3 powerful exercises that will allow you to take back your time and energy as you transition into a new school year and into the last few months of 2019.

We will cover:

How to delegate and reorg family roles so you can stop doing everything
How to integrate weekly family meetings (and the specific protocol my family is using)
How to integrate a simple morning routine that sets your entire day up for success

This is the best time of year to create new routines that serve you and your entire family. Take advantage of this time to learn how to thrive in your daily life.

Links mentioned:

Download my 15 Minute Manifest

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366: Sarah Stevens: The Beautifull Project: The Truth About Fatness and Thin Allies Aug 28, 2019

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After leaving a career in corporate healthcare in 2016, Sarah set out to find work that better aligned with her passion and purpose. As co-owner of Black Pearl Coaching and Consulting, she served as a consultant to small businesses and nonprofits. Through this work, she accepted a position as the inaugural Executive Director with Lead(h)er, a nonprofit that connects women with mentors to fuel career and community engagement - a position she still holds to this day. In 2018, Sarah launched The Beautifull Project, an entrepreneurial effort that combined her past professional experience with her commitment to pursuing purposeful work. Using the power of collective storytelling, The Project invites women back to their bodies, encouraging, and supporting them as they learn to use their voice and take up space. When Sarah is not thinking up big ideas for The Project, she is shamelessly momming 3 teens, writing, reading, teaching yoga, and leaning as far as possible into an honest, authentic life.

Listen in to hear Sarah share:

Her experience growing up in a body she deemed to be “too big and too much”
Her history of body image battles and disordered eating
How her Beautifull Project was born out of the moment her doctor prescribed her speed and a 600 calorie a day diet for weight loss
Why “being concerned” for a fat person’s health is a discriminatory crutch
How she’s embracing living in a fat body
How to talk to your kids about fatness and fat as a neutral descriptor
Why thin people must be allies for fat people if we want to create space for all women to live safely in their bodies and in their power

Links mentioned:

Connect with Sarah
Facebook: The Beautifull Project
Instagram: @thebeautifullproject and @seeing_sarah
The TED talk
Podcast: Beauti: The Interviews

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365: How I'm Raising An Emotionally Intelligent & Emotionally Capable Son Aug 26, 2019

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Recently I’ve spoken out about the crucial importance of cultivating emotional intelligence in young men.

The official definition of emotional intelligence is: the capacity to be aware of, control, and express one's emotions, and to handle interpersonal relationships judiciously and empathetically.

Historically, men have not been raised to be emotionally intelligent, emotionally capable or emotionally available.

Historically, we have largely failed to raise men who can handle interpersonal relationships or relationships with their larger communities judiciously and empathetically.

Historically, we have taught men to stuff feelings, dismiss feelings, ignore feelings, and deny feelings. And the consequences are proving to be dire.

There are so many horrific outcomes when we have multiple generations of men who are unable to identify their feelings, express their feelings, and relate to other peoples’ feelings.

The result of generations of poor emotional intelligence among men is rape culture, diet culture, racism, sexism, men policing women’s bodies, rampant struggles with mental health, the addiction epidemic and so much more that we won’t see the full impact of for years to come.

This is disturbing and distressing to say the least.

Add to that the numbers and data we’re seeing around mass shootings - largely executed by young, white men - young white men who with known mental health struggles and/or dangerously radical views stemming from a lack of empathy and compassion for others. This is an emotional intelligence crisis.

The responsibility of raising an emotionally intelligent young man (a young white man, in my case) in our current landscape is a critical task that cannot be taken lightly. A number of you have asked me how we can do our very best in raising emotionally intelligent young men - and just how I’m facing this responsibility head-on.

In this episode, I’ll share the 8 things I’m doing to raise an emotionally intelligent, emotionally capable son. By no means do I think I’m doing it perfectly. But I think I’m getting a few things right and it’s all worth sharing if it helps any of our young men.

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364: Darcy Lockman: Mothers, Fathers, and the Myth of Equal Partnership Aug 21, 2019

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Darcy Lockman is a journalist turned clinical psychologist and the author of All the Rage: Mothers, Fathers, and the Myth of Equal Partnership (Harper Collins). Her writing has appeared in the New York Times and the Washington Post, among others. Her first book, Brooklyn Zoo, chronicled the year she spent working on the psychiatric ward of a city hospital. She currently practices in New York City, where she lives with her husband and daughters.

I have invested a lot of time learning about building equitable relationships in the last year. As someone who likes to take on all. the. things., I know what it’s like to be the doer and the know-er and the gatekeeper of everything in the family. It’s an exhausting, unfair, and unnecessary burden that we can improve - drastically. I couldn’t be more excited to invite you into this conversation with Darcy and me.

Listen in to hear Darcy share:

What “good” dads get away with
Societal, multi-generational indoctrination of gender roles - even among progressive couples
The truth about maternal gatekeeping and the potential damage around it
The power of using your anger in adaptive ways to have a more equitable relationship
The research-proven struggles and burdens of the mental load of motherhood, especially in the first 4 years
Strategies to build a more equitable partnership with your partner

Links mentioned:

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363: 8 Ways To Build Persistence and Power Aug 19, 2019

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The path to anywhere worth going will be marked with unexpected twists and turns. There will be highs and lows that you can’t imagine - that will push you and pull you and quite possibly bring you to your knees.

Because that is the journey of the hero, the warrior, the survivor, the fighter.

The journey to anywhere worth going will take strength and tenacity and patience and persistence you didn’t know you had.

You will question yourself, your strength, your skills, and your values.

You will want to scream. You will want to cry. You will want to quit.

But you won’t.

You will persist.

Because you will remember where you’re going and why it’s imperative you get there.

You will remember that when the going gets tough, you do not sit. You PERSIST.

Listen in to hear how to build persistence in order to step into your power.

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