Seeing Jesus with Paul Miller

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[J-CURVE: Union with Christ] 4. Marketing the Self Jan 08, 2020

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This episode continues our series on the J-Curve, looking closer at what we tend to do instead of the J-Curve: marketing ourselves and trying to climb the failure-boasting chart.

"The word "boast" the way Paul uses it in Philippians 3 is bigger than our English word. It also includes glory and rejoicing. So, when your favorite sports team wins, you glory in that sports team. The concept gets right at the heart of how our flesh operates."

"When I was silent in that meeting, it put to death something evil in me – my boasting self. I felt the pain of that."

"A lot of people are quiet – they don't boast – but Paul is not so much talking about what you say, but about the boasting self. If you are critical, that's a form of boasting. You're bringing someone down. Gossip is the boasting self. You're sharing information about someone else that quietly lifts you up. So many of our sins rotate around this desire to move up the failure-boasting chart!"

[J-CURVE: Union with Christ] 3. All of Life is a Gift Dec 23, 2019

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This episode explores the idea that gift-giving is deep in the structure of the universe... reflecting the heart of our gift-giving God.

"You're driving in heavy traffic, and someone coming from the opposite direction wants to make a left-hand turn in front of you. To let them do that might cost you missing a traffic light. You can see from their turn signal that they are requesting a gift. And, in most cases, what do you do? You give them a gift of time. They wave their acknowledgement and you nod in exchange. Though there's no takeaway for either of us, we both walk away satisfied."

"It's like you're touching the structure of the universe which is the mind of God: all of life is gift.."

"I don't know if I've ever heard anyone connect the structure of the universe with a left turn! But it's kind of hopeful because if you see things in this way that it's not like you have to go and move across the world to engage in the deep structure of the universe. It's built into everyday life it if we see it and receive it as well as give it."

[J-CURVE: Union with Christ] 2. The Love J-Curve of Christmas Dec 11, 2019

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This episode continues our series on Paul's latest book, J-Curve: Dying and Rising with Jesus in Everyday Life.

"As Americans we have a whole declaration of no limitations, but the very nature of love is to have your freedom constricted. What we'll react to sometimes in a difficult relationship to the feel of the relationship—I have to be careful what I say around the person, it's unfair, it's unbalanced. Life shouldn't feel this way. But that's actually the feel of love, that narrowing, the constricting, the limiting.

"That's the womb where resurrection takes place—it's where you get to know Jesus."

"When people recoil from the narrowing of love it narrows their hearts. If you want to see someone who has a wide heart, they've experienced narrowing. It's like the heat of that forms the human soul the way it should be."

[J-CURVE: Union with Christ] 1. "I'll Never Do This Again!": How the J-Curve Helps Nov 27, 2019

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This episode begins a new series on Paul's latest book, J-Curve: Dying and Rising with Jesus in Everyday Life.

"The American church is like me at the back of the plane, at many levels, thinking everything has gone wrong. And part of what has gone wrong is that we don't really have any teaching on dying and rising with Jesus."

"We're missing a significant piece of Christianity."

"One of the difficulties of suffering of any kind is that it is disorienting. You lose your way. It feels devoid of meaning. What the J-Curve does is bring hope to it, because dying is not the last word, and it gives you a toolkit of what to do when you find yourself in a patch of suffering.

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[JESUS] 12. How Jesus Became a Missing Person, Part 3 Nov 13, 2019

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This episode wraps up our conversation about how Jesus became a missing person.

"Secular-liberalism itself is no longer aware of its Jesus roots. What it's done now is still hold on to Jesus, but no longer as a person, just his attributes."

"Political correctness is simply Jesus' attributes, secularized."

"One of the big passions of my life is for the church, and for our youth in particular, to experience an embodied Jesus. When that happens, they are inoculated against the siren call of Secular-liberalism and they can out-compassion Secular-liberalism because Secular-liberalism does not have the spirit of Jesus. A virtual Jesus haunts our culture, but we have the real thing!"

[JESUS] 11. How Jesus Became a Missing Person, Part 2 Oct 30, 2019

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This episode continues our conversation about how Jesus became a missing person.

"In classical Greek literature, people are defined by their central characteristic. Achilles in the Iliad is swift; he is swift Achilles. Everything he does is swift. Erich Auerbach* compares that to Jacob. If you look at Jacob, in the first part of his life he's just a scoundrel. He's crafty. If he was in the Iliad, he would be crafty Jacob. But, as Robert Alter* puts it, Jacob, like so many other Bible characters is a 'center of surprise.' Jacob actually changes."

"Emotions made Stoics nervous. If you've been in an argument lately, you know why."

"The Jewish love of the physical meant that they could affirm Jesus' humanity but not his divinity. The Greek mind was the inverse of this. Jesus' divinity was easy for the Greeks to see; it was his humanity that they struggled with. In the fake gospel of Judas, Judas—because he loves Jesus—gives Jesus over to be crucified so Jesus can be rid of his body. That's the Greek mind, it didn't like the body."

Available wherever you listen: iTunes | Spotify | Android | Google Podcasts *See Erich Auerbach's Mimesis and Robert Alter's The Art of Biblical Narrative.

[JESUS] 10. How Jesus Became a Missing Person, Part 1 Oct 16, 2019

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In this episode, we begin a conversation about why paying attention to how Jesus interacts as a person feels so strange and unfamiliar to many of us.

"When it comes to repentance and holiness, it's almost like we're good at the dying—at sin identification—but the resurrection, the beauty formation, is weak. If we don't have a vision of the person of Jesus, then our beauty formation is without content. It just ends up being good or being nice."

"Why is this glowing diamond sitting at the center of our faith, the person of Jesus, so hidden?"

"Repentance and faith are absolutely critical to the Christian life. But sometimes it can feel like an endless idol hunt, like if you're really a devoted Christian, you're always seeking deeper recesses of your heart. In some ways, that is true, but if that's not balanced out by a positive vision of the image of Jesus being imprinted on me, then it actually is kind of depressing. As you become more like Christ, you're constantly looking out, so you don't get so self-entangled. At the heart of love is a self-forgetfulness."

[JESUS] 9. Jesus Greets Mary Magdalene (John 20) Oct 02, 2019

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In this episode, we look at how Jesus greets Mary Magdalene in John 20.

"Jesus is the same person pre-resurrection and post-resurrection. I think I could pick him out at a party. I'd look around and hunt for the person who is being quietly attentive to someone who is unimportant. That would be Jesus!"

"'Mary!'" It's so Jesus to say that. It's pure poetry! It's so short, but yet filled with so much."

"These two snippets about Mary tell us a lot about her. What immediately comes to mind for me is this long history of strong Hebrew women – there is no one like these women in ancient literature: Sarah, Rebecca, Abigail, Ruth, Jael, Deborah...."

[SPECIAL] Interview with Tyler Johnson, Redemption Arizona Sep 18, 2019

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In this episode, we interview Tyler Johnson, Lead Pastor of Redemption Church in Arizona, about how seeing Jesus has made a difference in his life.

"The biggest thing that pressing into Jesus has cultivated in me is the need to depend more on the Father through prayer…"

"Jesus was the most dependent human being who ever lived."

"If we saw a middle-aged man in Starbucks talking to his father, and saying what Jesus said in John 5:19, 'Dad, I don't do anything unless I see you do it. If you don't do it, I don't do it,' we would think this guy needs to grow up… he's got daddy issues, whatever. But that is how Jesus lived, and that's how Jesus loved."

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[JESUS] 8. The Structure of Jesus' Beauty Sep 04, 2019

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In this episode, we reflect on the two scenes studied thus far and begin to see some of the elements of Jesus' beauty that captivate us.

"Jonathan Edwards said Jesus combines 'divine excellencies as otherwise would have seemed to us utterly incompatible in the same subject.' When you see opposites like compassion and honesty come together in a person, it's just striking and you're drawn to that. It touches your soul."

"When you watch Jesus, you begin to sense that he has a center outside of himself. It's like a gyroscope – an internal stabilizing device. What you're looking at when you see this in Jesus is his prayer life with his Father..."

""For us, I think this is where the gift of the Holy Spirit comes in. You can study Jesus until you are blue in the face, but you're always left with, 'Lord, I don't know how to do this.' And so we pray to the Father for the Spirit, who brings Christ to us."

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