See Also

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Episode 45: State Secrets Mar 31, 2023

Show notes

This week on See Also, Kate and Brodie debrief on BERNHARDT/HAMLET at the MTC and the 2023 RISING program before covering two new documentaries: All the Beauty and the Bloodshed by Laura Poitras and Meet Me in the Bathroom, Will Lovelace and Dylan Southern's adaptation (kinda) of Lizzy Goodman's book. One makes us think about Jinxy's friend Cookie Mueller, the other unfortunately reminds us of Carlos D from Interpol.

See Alsos for ALL THE BEAUTY AND THE BLOODSHED

Nan Goldin's Movie Obsessions

Bette Gordon's Variety (1983) with a screenplay by Kathy Acker

Ten years after: Naples 1986-1996 by Nan Goldin

See Also Episode 7

David Wojnarowicz doc

High Art by Lisa Cholodenko

Nan Goldin’s Profound Influence on Film and Television

Nan Goldin showing at the NGA in Canberra, July 2023 – January 2024

Cast and Crew panel at NYFF

Courtney Love fucking up Joss Sackler

Australia's Take Home Naloxone program

@sesh.ed resource list

See Alsos for MEET ME IN THE BATHROOM

Shut Up and Play the Hits

Lizzy Goodman's book

Date with the Night

carlos d has herpes dot com

ALSO ALSOs

LISTEN ALSO: Death is Not the End

BATHE ALSO: Asian exfoliating bath cloths

SUBSCRIBE ALSO: Hetty McKinnon's To Vegetables With Love newsletter + Choy Love Club

SWEET ALSO: Fluffy Torpedo

WATCH ALSO: Of An Age by Goran Stolevski

ART ALSO: Australiana: Designing a Nation at Bendigo Art Gallery

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Episode 44: She Has No God with Naomi Fry Mar 24, 2023

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See Also is a weekly dispatch that connects the dots of pop culture, with plenty of further reading and ideas to Add To Cart – or at least Open in New Tab.

This week, Kate and Brodie are joined by New Yorker writer, great follow and Pumphead Naomi Fry (@frynaomifry) to discuss the lightning bolt necklace of it all. Together we discuss how LVP loves the concept of sexiness and being sexless and share memories of the salad days at her dusty, shellacked establishments. Then, we compare some reality tv gems and cleanse the palette with three book recommendations.

Naomi on How Long Gone

Naomi's Vanderpump Rules letter of recommendation in the New York Times magazine

Naomi's interview with Andy Cohen

Sunset Tan

Summer House

Gallery Girls

Also Alsos

READ ALSO from Naomi: Unscripted by James B Stewart, Rachel Abrams

READ ALSO from Kate: The Other Side: A Journey into Women, Art and the Spirit World by Jennifer Higgie

READ ALSO from Brodie: Really Good, Actually by Monica Heisey

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Episode 43: It's Not My Business Mar 17, 2023

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This week, Kate and Brodie endorse finding the two biggest bitches in your city and starting a podcast.

Jinxy has a truly chic scene report from her time at the Berlinale. She respects Todd Field's confidentiality clause but shares everything she can from the world premiere of Tår. Visit our IG @seealsopodcast for her photos of Our Cate from the red carpet.

BL has been in the opposite of Europe aka bedrest with a brutal chest infection. But she's casting her memory back to the glory days before that downfall to talk about Harry Styles's Melbourne shows and terrible merch.

ALSO ALSOS

SKIN ALSO: Chantecaille Future Skin foundation from Mecca

WATCH ALSO: Vanderpump Rules on Hayu

SMELL ALSO: Paine's incense sticks from Pan After

READ ALSO: Leave the World Behind (See also: 10 Cloverfield Lane, Knock at the Cabin)

ART ALSO: Martin Wong's Malicious Mischief

SHOP ALSO: Melbourne Farmers' Market

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Thanks as always to Samuel Hodge and Harvey Sutherland for making us look and sound great.

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Episode 42: Revisiting The Janes Mar 03, 2023

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See Also is a weekly dispatch that connects the dots of pop culture, with plenty of further reading and ideas to Add To Cart – or at least Open in New Tab.

This week, Kate and Brodie are back from trips to Berlin and Brisbane (respectively) and sharing this reissued episode from the archives. In the spirit of International Women's Day (aka the day Jinxy and BL will be seeing Bikini Kill together), take a listen back to our discussion of the 2022 HBO documentary feature The Janes (streaming on HBO in the US / Binge in Australia). It's as relevant a story now as it was last year, when the Supreme Court issued their devastating decision on the future of Roe v Wade.

Final Hours in One of America's Largest Abortion Clinics

We are not going back to the time before Roe; we are going somewhere worse

Roe V Wade is Overturned – The Daily podcast

Meanwhile in Australia, brush up on abortion laws

The Town Without Abortion – 7AM podcast

The Story of Jane by Laura Kaplan

Read JANE zine online

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Episode 41: Ghost World (Toy Poodle) Feb 24, 2023

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It's a funky poodle this week!

Directed by Terry Zwigoff based on Dan Clowes’ beloved, cult graphic novel and co–written by Zwigoff and Clowes, GHOST WORLD is a window into the friendship between two teen girls Enid (Thora Birch) and Rebecca (Scarlett Johansson) – true outsiders – over the summer following their high school graduation as their allegiance first and foremost to each other starts to wain. These are the caustic, counterculture obsessed girls you either identify with, or you fear. They’re working out what to do next – Rebecca's got a clearer path than Enid, who's got to get through an excruciating remedial art class (taught by Illeana Douglas) in order to get her high school diploma. One day Enid and Rebecca prank a lonely guy behind a personal ad. Soon, hermetic record collector Seymour (Steve Buscemi), enters their cool, misanthropic world and unsettles their folie à deux friendship for good.

The Dan Clowes Reader edited by Ken Parille

The work of Aline Kominsky-Crumb

Tavi Gevinson's interview with Dan Clowes

The work of Julie Doucet (Drawn & Quarterly)

Ione Skye's short David Goldberg based on "Ice Haven' from 2011

Seance in Wowsville, Criterion essay by Howard Hampton

Ghost World at 20

Tillie Waldren, author of On a Sunbeam, I Love This Part

Brodie's post about Scarlett's ironing boards

Watch Also

Crumb
Funny Pages
American Splendour
Diary of a Teenage Girl
Daria season 3, episode 5: “The Lost Girls” (here's the episode of Doree Shafrir's podcast Rerun where Aminatou Sow discusses it)

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Episode 40: Empanada Syndrome Feb 17, 2023

Show notes

Thanks to WellRead for sponsoring this episode! Explore WellRead's subscription and gift options at wellread.com.au

This week, Jinxy and BL chat about two films on opposite ends of the pleasure spectrum: The Whale and Aftersun.

Plug Also

BL is interviewing Sloane Crosley at The Wheeler Centre on 9 March – tickets are on sale now.

Follow Jinxy's frigid bitch winter @katejinx

See Also

Prima Facie is SOLD OUT at the MTC til 25 March

Why Everyone Feels Like They're Faking It

Alissa Wilkinson on The Whale

Guy Branum on NPR + on holiday

Charlotte Wells in the Guardian

Mia Hansen-Løve & Charlotte Wells

Charlotte Wells' shorts on Vimeo + her website

Her Criterion Closet

Morvern Callar by Lynne Ramsay (2003)

Homesick by Nell Mescal

Ma by Celia Rowlson-Hall (2015)

ALSO ALSOS

WATCH ALSO: Queerstralia premieres on n ABC & iView, Tuesday 28 February

FOLLOW ALSO: @fatarthistory

SLEEP ALSO: Slip silk sleep mask

SUPPLEMENTS ALSO: Vitable

DRINK ALSO: Bandwagon Dry by Four Pillars

POD ALSO: Celebrity Book Club with Steven and Lilly

Follow us on socials @seealsopodcast for links to Also Alsos, and keep an eye out there for a little listener survey soon!

Thanks as always to Samuel Hodge and Harvey Sutherland for making us look and sound great.

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Episode 39: Twilight Years Feb 10, 2023

Show notes

See Also is a weekly dispatch that connects the dots of pop culture, with plenty of further reading and ideas to Add To Cart – or at least Open in New Tab.

This week, Kate and Brodie are back watching a lot, reading a little and figuring out how to get Their Writing done. They talk writing routines, journalling and making time for their projects. They also cover some new murder shows, wholesome house tours and art shows, and the celebrity lesbians of Real Housewives of Miami. Also: Alsos!

See Alsos

The Robin Boyd Foundation tours

The Design Files piece on Walsh St House

Lyon Housemuseum

Do Ho Suh

Three Pines (on Amazon)

The Real Housewives of Miami (on Hayu)

BL's Vogue story on Chrishell and G Flip

Stephanie Convery's piece in the Guardian: 'You must show up for your art'

Everything is Fine episode with Julia Cameron (The Artist's Way)

Longform podcast

What Are You Going Through by Sigrid Nunez

All My Puny Sorrows by Miriam Toews

The Creative Independent

Also Alsos

VISIT ALSO: Iconic Houses Dot Org

HAIR ALSO: Davines All-in-one Milk

ROUGE ALSO: Westman Atelier Baby Cheeks Blush

PLANT ALSO: Youluckythings Plant Pins

WATCH ALSO: Cunk on Earth

BAGS ALSO: Adamo Primis Z Tote

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Episode 38: All Goalsed Out Feb 03, 2023

Show notes

See Also is a weekly dispatch that connects the dots of pop culture, with plenty of further reading and ideas to Add To Cart – or at least Open in New Tab.

This week, Kate and Brodie are long-distance podcasting (apols for sound quality!) about BL's Capricorn stellium, Jinxy going to Psarakos and the J-Lo wedding industrial complex, before they dig into Poker Face, the new Rian Johnson howcatchem (as opposed to whodunnit) series starring Natasha Lyonne. Spoiler alert: it's excellent and very stylish. With a new setting and cast of characters each week, it's a throwback to the era of Colombo, which brings up some funny memories about deviated septums for Jinxy. Also: Alsos!

An Attempt to Make Sense of the Jennifer Lopez Wedding Industrial-Complex Canon by Rachel Handler

Our Natasha Lyonne episode: Teenage Psychological Brain Damage

Natasha Lyonne in Rolling Stone

John Darnielle in Vulture

Interview with costume designer Trace Gigi Field

Modern Lovers by Emma Straub

Also Alsos

SLICE ALSO: Tojiro bread slicer (IRL at All Are Welcome in Melbourne, online here.)

SUBSCRIBE ALSO: Emily Gould's new Making It Newsletter for New York Magazine

EXFOLIATE ALSO: Le Tush Butt Mask from Megababe

HIDE ALSO: IT Cosmetics Bye Bye Under Eye concealer

LISTEN ALSO: Preacher's Daughter by Ethel Cain

TALLY ALSO: TBR – Bookshelf app

EXTRA ALSO: Pay the Rent reminder. Consider setting up an auto payment each month if you can.

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Episode 37: Hobnobbing with Society Jan 27, 2023

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** AVOIDING TÁR SPOILERS? WE DISCUSS ELEMENTS YOU MIGHT WANT TO SKIP FROM 45:53 – 1:01:08**

It's part 2 of our Problematic Blondes series. In this episode, Kate and Brodie finally get into Our Cate in Todd Field's brilliant, biting, funny, stylish and twisted Tár.

Colette's Boiler Room set

Todd Field in Vanity Fair

WTF with Marc Maron: Todd Field

Michael Schulman's profile on Todd Field

Dan Kois in Slate on the ending (his new book, Vintage Contemporaries, is out now)

Interview with costume designer Bina Daigeler

Your Guide to Frigid-Bitch Winter, Courtesy of Lydia Tár

Cate and Todd in the Criterion Closet

49 True Facts about Lydia Tar

Cate Blanchett in Financial Times

Caché

Personal Shopper

Clouds of Sils Maria

Also Alsos

TOWEL ALSO: AmpleFolk bath towel

PLAN ALSO: 'Alf, Mickey & the Other Dogs' calendar by by Daniel Gebhart de Koekkoek

PEN ALSO: Pentel Energel BL107 0.7

SMELL ALSO: Earl of East Air Fresheners (AU via Incu / rest of the world via Earl of East)

CALENDAR ALSO: Himekuri calendar from Paddlers Coffee in Tokyo

POD ALSO: season 3 of Articles of Interest by Avery Trufelman

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Episode 36: M3GAN IN RETROGRADE Jan 20, 2023

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See Also is a weekly dispatch that connects the dots of pop culture, with plenty of further reading and ideas to Add To Cart – or at least Open in New Tab.

** AVOIDING M3GAN SPOILERS? WE DISCUSS ELEMENTS YOU MIGHT WANT TO SKIP FROM 33:05 – 38:28 **

This week, Kate and Brodie meet their new best friend, M3GAN. She sings, she dances, she fucking slays. They compare notes on who M3gan reminds them of, Jinxy finds a way to compare her to Diane Keaton, and Siri joins the chat.

They also catch up on TV from the last week (Winter House, The L Word: Generation Q, 90 Day Fiance: Before the 90 Days) and Rachel Syme's recent New Yorker piece, How much Netflix can the world absorb?

See Alsos

The Bad Seed

Brian Jordan Alvarez on TikTok

The Innocents

Gerard Johnstone's s 2014 debut Housebound

HER

Malignant

Baby Boom

M3gan is screening at the Dolls Kill party, hosted by Jared Richards, at Golden Age in Sydney

Also Alsos

WEAR ALSO: Humphrey Law socks from HB Archive

NAILS ALSO: Builder in a Bottle (BIAB), from the Gel Bottle Inc.