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    Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”

    Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” on WGN Plus from WGN Radio in Chicago.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Getting to Yes, And… | Sarah Jaffe – ‘From The Ashes’ Oct 29, 2024

    Kelly connects with journalist Sarah Jaffe who wrote the best seller “Work Won’t Love You Back.” They talk about her new book “From The Ashes: Grief and Revolution in a World on Fire.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7008702/Sarah_Jaffe_2024-10-28-162602.64kmono.mp3

    “In accepting loss we make possible the future.”

    “We carry our ghosts with us everywhere.”

    “There is no love without pain or loss; this is what grief taught me.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Sarah Jaffe – ‘From The Ashes’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Mo Bunnell – ‘Give to Grow’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Michael Morris – ‘Tribal’

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    Karen Brooks Hopkins – ‘BAM…And Then It Hit Me’

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    Getting to Yes, And… Dr. Kathleen Smith – ‘True to You’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Mo Bunnell – ‘Give to Grow’ Oct 22, 2024

    Kelly talks to business leader, author and podcast host Mo Bunnell about his new book, “Give to Grow: Invest in Relationships to Build Your Business and Your Career.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/6999921/Mo_Bunnel__2024-10-22-002021.64kmono.mp3

    “It’s amazing how creative we can be to avoid acting.”

    “Showing someone attention is one of the most meaningful things you can do.”

    “Top performers fall in love with their client’s problems, not their own solutions.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Sarah Jaffe – ‘From The Ashes’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Mo Bunnell – ‘Give to Grow’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Michael Morris – ‘Tribal’

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    Karen Brooks Hopkins – ‘BAM…And Then It Hit Me’

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    Getting to Yes, And… Dr. Kathleen Smith – ‘True to You’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Michael Morris – ‘Tribal’ Oct 15, 2024

    Kelly connects with Michael Morris of Columbia University to talk about his timely book “Tribal: How the Cultural Instincts That Divide Us Can Help Bring Us Together.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/6984190/Michael_Morris_2024-10-14-161430.64kmono.mp3

    “Tribal living is what made us truly human.”

    “Our species became wiser thanks to our tribes.”

    “Killing the old culture happens top-down, then building the new culture happens bottom-up.”

    Karen Brooks Hopkins – ‘BAM…And Then It Hit Me’ Oct 08, 2024

    Kelly connects with Karen Brooks Hopkins, the former president of the Brooklyn Academy of Music (BAM), to discuss her book “BAM…And Then It Hit Me”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/6847911/Karen_Brooks_Hopkins_2024-10-08-042811.64kmono.mp3

    “In an odd way, there is a kind of nobility in fundraising.”

    “The first thing you need to know about fundraising is that it’s not brain surgery. It’s harder than brain surgery.”

    “Good service is everything. No one gives you money to sit in lousy seats.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Mo Bunnell – ‘Give to Grow’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Michael Morris – ‘Tribal’

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    Karen Brooks Hopkins – ‘BAM…And Then It Hit Me’

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    Getting to Yes, And… Dr. Kathleen Smith – ‘True to You’

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    Getting to Yes, And… Dr. Kathleen Smith – ‘True to You’ Oct 02, 2024

    Kelly welcomes Dr. Kathleen Smith back to the podcast. Dr. Smith is a licensed therapist and associate faculty member of the Bowen Center for Study of the Family. She is the author of “Everything Isn’t Terrible.” Her new book is called “True to You: A Therapist’s Guide to Stop Pleasing Others and Start Being Yourself.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/6468312/Dr_Kathleen_Smith_2024-09-19-034212.64kmono.mp3

    “We look to others to find ourselves.”

    “When our fate depends on other people changing, we get stuck.”

    “Sometimes humor is the best way to share your thinking, and sometimes it isn’t.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Mo Bunnell – ‘Give to Grow’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Michael Morris – ‘Tribal’

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    Karen Brooks Hopkins – ‘BAM…And Then It Hit Me’

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    Getting to Yes, And… Dr. Kathleen Smith – ‘True to You’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Chip Massey – ‘Convince Me’ Sep 24, 2024

    Kelly talks to former FBI Hostage Negotiator Chip Massey about his new book “Convince Me: High-Stakes Negotiation Tactics to Get Results in Any Business Situation.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/6468167/Chip_Massey_2024-09-19-035007.64kmono.mp3

    “You may have truth on your side, but persuasion does not hinge on what is true.”

    “Business is all about give and take, but there is a shelf life for an ask.”

    “Sharing your ups and downs makes you instantly more convincing.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Mo Bunnell – ‘Give to Grow’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Michael Morris – ‘Tribal’

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    Karen Brooks Hopkins – ‘BAM…And Then It Hit Me’

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    Getting to Yes, And… Dr. Kathleen Smith – ‘True to You’

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    Getting to Yes, and… | Yumi Kendall – ‘Music and Play’ Sep 19, 2024

    Kelly connects with Yumi Kendall, Assistant Principal cellist for the Philadelphia Orchestra to talk about the power of the arts and her experiences as a student in the Waldorf educational system.

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/6431947/Yumi_Kendall_2024-09-16-000647.64kmono.mp3

    “I didn’t decide until the day after my SATs, because all of my friends were working on their personal essays and I thought, ‘My personal essay is cello,'”

    “Music is a medium of awe that helps make sense of life’s wonders.”

    “I feel like sound is texture. Sound is feeling like I mean, feeling on my skin, like how soft cashmere feels is how it. That’s my experience, that’s my lived experience. “

    Getting to Yes, And… | Sandra Steinbrecher – ‘The Salt Shed’ Sep 17, 2024

    Kelly talks to Sandra Steinbrecher, a Chicago documentary photographer whose new book captures the transformation of the Morton Salt factory into The Salt Shed, a premier music venue in Chicago.

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/6431989/Sandra_Steinbrecher_2024-09-16-000229.64kmono.mp3

    “We protect our past so we are connected to what came before us and so we understand what lies in front of us – today and tomorrow.”

    “Ultimately, the goal of architecture is to shelter and create spaces that improve human life and foster a sense of belonging,”

    “For the ironworkers, It’s not how many years you have left – it’s how many winters.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Randy Fertel – ‘Winging It’ Sep 10, 2024

    Kelly meets up with writer, teacher and philanthropist Randy Fertel to talk about this new book “Winging It: Improv’s Power and Peril in the Time of Trump.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/6373791/Randy_Fertel_2024-09-09-234831.64kmono.mp3

    “Improv seeks to widen our mental bubble.”

    “Improvisation is the discourse of paradigm shifts.”

    “Innovation always begins with disruption, a pushback against the dominant culture.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Mo Bunnell – ‘Give to Grow’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Michael Morris – ‘Tribal’

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    Karen Brooks Hopkins – ‘BAM…And Then It Hit Me’

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    Getting to Yes, And… Dr. Kathleen Smith – ‘True to You’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Alison Fragale – ‘Likeable Badass’ Sep 03, 2024

    Live from The Second City in collaboration with the Chicagoland Chamber of Commerce, Kelly interviews Alison Fragale, the Mary Farley Ames Lee Distinguished Scholar of Organizational Behavior at the Kenen-Flagler Business School at the University of North Caroline Chapel Hill. She has an incredible new book, it’s called “Likeable Badass: How Women Get the Success They Deserve.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/6211385/Alison_Fragale_2024-09-03-145225.64kmono.mp3

    “The key to managing your status – and reaping all the benefits that come with it – is showing up as a likeable badass, getting others to see you as both assertive and warm.”

    “The faster we talk, the more status we get.”

    “There is a strong relationship between humor and status. People who have high status engage in more humor.”

    Getting to Yes, And… Dr. Frederik Pferdt – ‘What’s Next is Now’ Aug 27, 2024

    Kelly talks Yes, And with Dr. Frederik Pferdt, Google’s first Chief Innovation Evangelist. He founded Google’s Innovation Lab, where he trained tens of thousands of Googlers to develop cutting-edge ideas and taught groundbreaking classes on innovation and creativity at Stanford University for more than a decade. His new book is called “What’s Next is Now: How to Live Future Ready.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/6013102/Dr_Frederik_Pferd_2024-08-27-001202.64kmono.mp3

    “We’re built by change but we’re not built for change.”

    “The pursuit of better is about progress, not perfection.”

    “Fair warning: it takes courage to be curious.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Robert Wolcott and Kaihan Krippendorff – ‘Proximity’ Aug 20, 2024

    Kelly sits down with Robert Wolcott, adjunct professor of innovation at the Booth School of Business and adjunct professor of executive education at the Kellogg School of Management and Kaihan Krippendorff CEO of Outthinker Networks to talk about their new book: “Proximity: How Coming Breakthroughs in Just-in-Time Transform Business, Society and Daily Life.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/5913527/Robert_Wolcott_and_Kaihan_Krippendorff__2024-08-20-151327.64kmono.mp3

    “People want what they want, where and when they want it. Those who can give it to them are more likely to win.”

    “The robots are coming.”

    “The customer as king is a tired metaphor. It’s also increasingly accurate.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Jessica Chen – ‘Smart Not Loud’ Aug 13, 2024

    Kelly talks to Emmy award-winning former broadcaster Jessica Chen who is now the CEO of Soulcast Media and the author of “Smart Not Loud: How To Get Noticed At Work For All The Right Reasons.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/5678642/Jessica_Chen_2024-08-13-030642.64kmono.mp3

    “Growing up, I was never taught the importance of making myself visible.”

    “Filler words sabotage our message.”

    “Acknowledging isn’t agreeing, it’s just showing we’re listening.”

    Stephanie Harrison – ‘New Happy’ Aug 06, 2024

    Kelly catches up with Stephanie Harrison, former leaning executive with Thrive. Her company, The New Happy, has revolutionized the way that people understand and pursue happiness. Her new book is called “New Happy: Getting Happiness Right in a World That’s Got It Wrong.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/5551028/Stephanie_Harrison_2024-08-06-032028.64kmono.mp3

    “Old Happy has put us all on autopilot.”

    “There is no ‘me’ without ‘we.’”

    “Humanity is the only type of gift that is required for happiness.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Mo Bunnell – ‘Give to Grow’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Michael Morris – ‘Tribal’

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    Karen Brooks Hopkins – ‘BAM…And Then It Hit Me’

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    Getting to Yes, And… Dr. Kathleen Smith – ‘True to You’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Kelly Clancy – ‘Playing with Reality’ Jul 30, 2024

    Kelly explores the history of play and games with Kelly Clancy, a neuroscientist and physicist who has held research positions at MIT, University of California – Berkley, University College London and the AI company DeepMind. She has a new book, it’s called “Playing with Reality: How Games Have Shaped Our World.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/5417639/kelly_clancy__2024-07-30-025239.64kmono.mp3

    “Play is practice for the unexpected.”

    “Intelligent choices don’t fall into a single fixed ordering; they depend on context.”

    “Game theory posits humans as a fixed bundle of preferences, when they are, in fact, learning systems.”

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    Karen Brooks Hopkins – ‘BAM…And Then It Hit Me’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Matt Beane- ‘The Skill Code’ Jul 23, 2024

    Kelly connects with Matt Beane, University of California professor, to discuss his new book: “The Skill Code: How to Save Human Ability in an Age of Intelligent Machines.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/5362825/Matt_Beane_2024-07-23-032825.64kmono.mp3

    “If it’s going to flourish, the future of skill needs the very technologies we’re concerned about.”

    “We learn best when we get healthy challenge: too much, and we burn out. Too little and we stagnate.”

    “Fixing a problem takes seeing it clearly.”

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    Karen Brooks Hopkins – ‘BAM…And Then It Hit Me’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Jo Boaler – ‘Math-Ish’ Jul 16, 2024

    Kelly welcomes Jo Boaler back to the podcast. Jo is the Nomellini & Olivier Professor of Education at Stanford University. She is the author of nineteen books and numerous research articles. Her latest book is called “Math-Ish: Finding Creativity, Diversity, and Meaning in Mathematics.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/5305657/Jo_Boaler_2024-07-16-131857.64kmono.mp3

    “Mathematics can be a secret weapon.”

    “People with a growth mindset view mistakes as opportunities to learn.”

    “If you are walking on the edge of change, you will probably get arrows fired at you.”

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    Karen Brooks Hopkins – ‘BAM…And Then It Hit Me’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Jessica Calarco – ‘Holding it Together’ Jul 09, 2024

    Kelly connects with Jessica Calarco, a Sociologist and Associate Professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. to discuss her latest book “Holding it Together: How Women Became America’s Social Safety Net. “

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/5280252/Jessica_Calarco_2024-07-08-225452.64kmono.mp3

    “Care flows through networks, and we all exist in networks of care.”

    “Learned helplessness manifests inequality.”

    “The problem, of course, is that when women prove they can hold it together, we thank them by giving them more to hold.”

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    Karen Brooks Hopkins – ‘BAM…And Then It Hit Me’

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    Getting to Yes, And… Dr. Kathleen Smith – ‘True to You’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Todd Rogers – ‘Writing For Busy Readers’ Jul 02, 2024

    Kelly talks to Harvard Professor Todd Rogers about his book “Writing for Busy Readers: Communicate More Effectively in the Real World” that he co-wrote with Jessica Lasky-Fink.

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/5272093/TODD_ROGERS_2024-07-02-151633.64kmono.mp3

    “Modern writers need extra help breaking through all the distractions.”

    “Use fewer words.”

    “Studies show that all-caps text does not enhance readers’ understanding.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Michael Morris – ‘Tribal’

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    Karen Brooks Hopkins – ‘BAM…And Then It Hit Me’

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    Getting to Yes, And… Dr. Kathleen Smith – ‘True to You’

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Emma Seppala – ‘Sovereign’ Jun 25, 2024

    Kelly welcomes back Yale professor Emma Seppala to the podcast to discuss her new book: “Sovereign: Reclaim Your Freedom, Energy, and Power in a Time of Distraction, Uncertainty and Chaos.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/5232335/Emma_Seppala_2024-06-24-011635.64kmono.mp3

    “Regardless of race, nationality, religion, gender, or social status, at our core we’re the same: sovereign.”

    “Many of us have a toxic relationship with ourselves.”

    “It takes courage to allow yourself to be seen for who you are.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Kim Scott – ‘Radical Respect’ Jun 18, 2024

    Kelly welcomes back fan-favorite Kim Scott to the podcast to discuss how she decided to reframe and significantly rewrite her book “Just Work” to turn it into “Radical Respect.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/5139854/Kim_Scott_2024-06-18-025154.64kmono.mp3

    “Collaboration is essential to any great human accomplishment.”

    “Words matter. You are not the word dictator.”

    “Self-righteous shaming is an act of vengeance, not repair.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Christopher Wong Michaelson and Jennifer Tosti-Kharas – ‘Is Your Work Worth It?’ Jun 11, 2024

    Kelly sits down with philosophy professor Christopher Wong Michaelson and management professor Jennifer Tosti-Kharas to talk about their fantastic new book, “Is Your Work Worth It? How to Think About Meaningful Work.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/5088264/Christopher_Wong_Michaelson_Jennifer_Tosti-Kharas_2024-06-11-132004.64kmono.mp3

    “Sometimes it takes a catastrophe for us to pay attention.”

    “Art and work have more in common than that they share the word artwork.”

    “In American cultures, callings are prized while jobs are not.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Mary Murphy – ‘Cultures of Growth’ Jun 04, 2024

    Kelly talks to Mary Murphy, professor of psychological and brain sciences at Indiana University and founding director of the Summer Institute on Diversity at the Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences at Stanford University. Her new book is called “Cultures of Growth: How the New Science of Mindset Can Transform Individuals, Teams and Organizations.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4864450/Mary_Murphy_2024-05-22-021850.64kmono.mp3

    “We’ve got mindset all wrong. Well, not all wrong, but we’ve over-simplified it drastically, and to our detriment.”

    “People often misperceive the growth mindset as softer and less rigorous.”

    “In cultures of growth, great ideas come from anywhere in the organization.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Elias Aboujaoude – ‘A Leader’s Destiny’ May 28, 2024

    Kelly connects with Stanford professor of psychiatry, Elias Aboujaoude, to talk about his provocative new book, “A Leader’s Destiny: Why Psychology, Personality, and Character Make All the Difference.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4864449/Elias_Aboujaoude_2024-05-22-021349.64kmono.mp3

    “Coaches may be ‘treating’ people who should be receiving mental health care instead.”

    “Much is lost by embracing a narrow leadership brand.”

    “One does not go online to become moderate.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Renee Fleming – Music and Mind: Live from the Chicago Humanities Festival May 24, 2024

    Please enjoy this bonus podcast as Kelly interviews opera legend Renee Fleming live for the Chicago Humanities Festival as they discuss her new book “Music and Mind: Harnessing the Arts for Health and Wellness.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4864443/Renee_Fleming_2024-05-22-013643.64kmono.mp3

    “We humans likely sang before we spoke.”

    “I believe that the arts should be embedded in our health-care system.”

    “As a singer, my body is my instrument.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Cass Sunstein – ‘How to Become Famous’ May 21, 2024

    Kelly welcomes the prolific author Cass Sunstein back to the show to talk about his new book, “How to Become Famous: Lost Einsteins, Forgetting Superstars and How The Beatles Came to Be.”

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    “Success and failure are exceedingly hard to predict.”

    “Excessive familiarity is boring, and excessive novelty is incomprehensible.”

    “Every successful artist succeeds in their own way, and the same is true of every failed artist.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… ‘Jerry Colonna – REUNION’ May 14, 2024

    Kelly has a compelling conversation with Jerry Colonna, the Co-founder of Flatiron Partners, one of the most successful, early-stage investment programs; former partner with J.P. Morgan Partners (JPMP), the private equity arm of J.P. Morgan Chase. Jerry is the author of two books: REBOOT: Leadership and the Art of Growing Up and his latest book – which we discuss – REUNION: Leadership and the Longing to Belong.

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    “It’s hard to look to the things we don’t want to know.”

    “Seeing our parents’ broken hearts gives us no choice but to feel our own.”

    “Better leaders are not just better humans, they reject indifference.”

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    Tricia Romano – ‘The Freaks Came Out to Write’ May 07, 2024

    Kelly speaks to journalist Tricia Romano who has published a vast oral history of the Village Voice newspaper called “The Freaks Came Out to Write: The Definitive History of The Village Voice, the Radical Paper that Changed American Culture.”

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    “The paper was called the Voice, and that’s what it was. It was like a loud, open mouth.”

    “It was the paper of record for the women’s movement.”

    “The whole idea of countercultural journalism as invented by the Voice.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Marc-Zao Sanders – ‘Timeboxing’ Apr 30, 2024

    Want a productivity hack that will change your life? Kelly connects with Marc Zao-Sanders, the co-founder and CEO of filtered.com to discuss his new book “Timeboxing: The Power of Doing One Thing at a Time.”

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    “Timeboxing is the flexible friend of any and all other time management techniques.”

    “Disconcertingly organized people weren’t born that way.”

    “Time well spent renders a life well lived.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Scott Rick – ‘Tightwads and Spendthrifts’ Apr 23, 2024

    Is your spouse a tightwad or a spendthrift? Kelly talks to Scott Rick, marketing professor at the University of Michigan’s Ross School of Business, about his new book “Tightwads and Spendthrifts: Navigating the Money Minefield in Real Relationships.”

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    “Too much dissimilarity is bad for a marriage.”

    “Selecting great gifts requires careful listening.”

    “For many of us, the way we think and feel about money is not ideal.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Emily P. Freeman – ‘How to Walk Into a Room’ Apr 16, 2024

    Kelly connects with best-selling author Emily P. Freeman to talk about her new book, “How to Walk into a Room: The Art of Knowing When to Stay and When to Walk Away.”

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    “We all walk through exits and endings throughout our lives.”

    “The mistake we make is to assume we’re all in the same room.”

    “How we’re formed informs how we walk into rooms.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Michael Norton – ‘The Ritual Effect’ Apr 09, 2024

    Kelly sits down at The Second City with Harvard business professor Michael Norton to discuss his new book “The Ritual Effect: From Habit to Ritual, Harness the Surprising Power of Everyday Actions.”

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    “A ritual is not a habit.”

    “Taken to the extreme, pre-performance rituals get in our way.”

    “Rituals can be the practices that call us home.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Elaine Lin Hering – Unlearning Silence Apr 02, 2024

    Kelly talks to Elaine Lin Hering, a former managing partner of Triad Consulting Group and a lecturer at Harvard Law School, specializing in dispute resolution, mediation, and negotiation. Her new book is called “Unlearning Silence: How to Speak Your Mind, Unleash Talent, and Live More Fully.

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    “Silence is a survival strategy.”

    “Getting people to share what they really think is a careful dance.”

    “Power is often invisible to those who have it.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Keith Boykin – ‘Why Does Everything Have to be About Race?’ Mar 26, 2024

    Kelly connects with Keith Boykin, a New York Times bestselling author, TV and Film producer, and former CNN political commentator. Keith served in the White House, cofounded the National Black Justice Coalition and taught at Columbia University. He is the author of seven books and his most recent is called “Why Does Everything Have to Be About Race? 25 Arguments That Won’t Go Away.”

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    “There’s no one-size-fits-all solution for racial inequality.”

    “’Chicago’ has also become right-wing shorthand for ‘crime.’”

    “Laws can’t change hearts and minds.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Daniel de Vise – ‘The Blues Brothers’ Mar 19, 2024

    Kelly goes deep with Pulitzer Prize-winning author Daniel de Vise about his new book, “The Blues Brothers: An Epic Friendship, the Rise of Improv, and the Making of an American Film Classic.”

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    “Belushi was a violent teddy bear, a cuddly monster, lovable and vulnerable and real.”

    “Most Animal House actors followed the script: John improvised.”

    “In truth, John didn’t so much memorize lines as intentionally forgot them. He was always improvising.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Tobias Dengel – ‘Sound of the Future’ Mar 12, 2024

    Kelly talks to tech entrepreneur Tobias Dengel about his new book “Sound of the Future: The Coming Age of Voice Technology.”

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    “Speed is the ultimate weapon in business.”

    “You cannot create the world’s best products if everyone in the room looks the same.”

    “Your first task is to fall in love with the problem.

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Cal Newport Mar 05, 2024

    Kelly welcomes Cal Newport back to the podcast. Cal is a professor of computer science at Georgetown University where he is also a founding member of the Center for Digital Ethics. He is the author of many books, including “Deep Work.” His latest book is called “Slow Productivity: The Lost Art of Accomplishment Without Burnout.”

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    “Slow productivity doesn’t ask that you extinguish ambition.”

    “Working with unceasing intensity is artificial and unsustainable.”

    “Quality demands that you slow down.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Malissa Clark – ‘Never Not Working’ Feb 27, 2024

    Kelly connects with Malissa Clark, an associate professor of industrial and organizational psychology at the University of Georgia. Her new book is called “Never Not Working: Why the Always-On Culture is Bad for Business – and How to Fix it.”

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    “Today, almost half of US workers would classify themselves as workaholics.”

    “Engagement and workaholism can look similar.”

    “The workplace ranks as the fifth leading cause of death in America.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Corey Keyes – ‘Languishing’ Feb 20, 2024

    Kelly has an insightful conversation with sociologist Corey Keyes about languishing, flourishing, and mental health. His new book is “Languishing: How to Feel Alive Again in a World That Wears Us Down.”

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    “Games are a microcosm of adulthood.”

    “We humans often get fooled by feelings.”

    “Acceptance needs to start with you.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Alison Taylor – ‘Ethics, Human Rights and a Better Way’ Feb 13, 2024

    Kelly speaks to Alison Taylor, a clinical professor at NYU Stern School of Business and the Executive Director of Ethical Systems, a research collaboration of prominent business school professors working on ethical culture founded by Jonathon Haidt. They discuss her new book, “Higher Ground: How Business Can Do the Right Thing in a Turbulent World.”

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    “We’re all armchair cultural auditors now.”

    “It’s never sufficient for a leader to be a good person.”

    “What behavior does the organization reward, and what does it punish?”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Eric Potterat and Alan Eagle – ‘Learned Excellence’ Feb 06, 2024

    Kelly bridges the world of Navy Seals training and Second City improv training with performance psychologist and retired US Navy commander Eric Potterat and executive communication expert Alan Eagle. They’ve co-written a new book: “Learned Excellence: Mental Disciplines for Leading and Winning from the World’s Top Performers.”

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    “It is the top performers’ mental approach to their craft that sets them apart.”

    “Character is revealed by adversity.”

    “Success is a lousy teacher; failure is a great one.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Anne Libera – ‘Comedy Studies’ Feb 01, 2024

    Kelly explores The Second City’s landmark college program Comedy Studies with its Director, Anne Libera.

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    “We learn from failing as opposed to the yes/no or risk/failure binary.”

    “With comedy, you have to be culturally competent, you have to be aware, you have to be observational.”

    “Comedy is a combination of recognition, pain and distance.”

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    Getting to Yes, And | Bob Sutton – ‘The Friction Project’ Jan 30, 2024

    Kelly welcomes the great Bob Sutton back to the podcast. Professor Emeritus at Stanford, Bob has a new book out called “The Friction Project” which he co-wrote with Huggy Rao.

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    “Piles of studies show, to do creative work right, teams need to slow down, struggle, and develop a lot of bad ideas to find a rare good one.”

    “Deciding if friction is good or bad depends on where you sit.”

    “Friction fixing is fueled by civility, caring and love.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | W. Russell Neuman – ‘Evolutionary Intelligence’ Jan 23, 2024

    Kelly talks to W. Russell Neuman, a specialist in new media and digital education at New York University – whose career has also taken him to MIT and the White House – to discuss his new book “Evolutionary Intelligence: How Technology Will Make Us Smarter.”

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    “We are demonstrably poor at learning from our mistakes.”

    “Eyeglasses and hearing aids enhance our ability to see and hear. EI enhances our ability to think.”

    “The judgement of the group is more reliable and judicious than a single decision maker.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Moshik Temkin – ‘Warriors, Rebels & Saints: The Art of Leadership from Machiavelli to Malcom X’ Jan 16, 2024

    Kelly takes a look at leadership through the lens of history with Moshik Temkin, a professor of history and leadership at Schwarzman College, Tsinghua University and a faculty affiliate at Harvard University’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs. His new book is titled, “Warriors, Rebels & Saints: The Art of Leadership from Machiavelli to Malcom X.”

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    “Learning from leadership is not just about success. We can learn just as much – sometimes more – from failure.”

    “Truly important leaders emerge in times of crisis.”

    “Leadership is never created in a vacuum.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Dr. Mariel Buque – ‘Break the Cycle: A Guide to Healing Intergenerational Trauma’ Jan 09, 2024

    Kelly connects with psychologist and professor Dr. Mariel Buque to discuss her new book “Break the Cycle: A Guide to Healing Intergenerational Trauma.”

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    “No cycle breaker will ever feel fully ready to break the cycle.”

    “The higher self is not a perfectly healed self, because perfect healing is a myth.”

    “We cannot change what we cannot see.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Rajiv Shah – ‘Big Bets’ Jan 02, 2024

    Kelly connects with Rajiv Shah, the President of the Rockefeller Foundation and a former government official who oversaw USAID from 2010 to 2015. His new book is called “Big Bets: How Large-Scale Change Really Happens.”

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    “For centuries, two factors determined an individual’s capacity for solving the world’s problems: divinity and dollars.”

    “Money alone doesn’t deliver outcomes.”

    “Trying to change a whole system started with changing myself.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Jesse David Fox – ‘Comedy Book’ Dec 26, 2023

    Kelly talks to Vulture Senior Editor Jesse David Fox who also hosts the “Good One” podcast about his new book, “Comedy Book: How Comedy Conquered Culture – And the Magic That Makes it Work.”

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    “Comedy only exists when both the comedian and audience are working together to create the state of play.”

    “’Funny is funny’ is a phrase you’ll often hear when people are asked to justify their opinions on comedy.”

    “Comedians can unite, they can empower, they can restore the psychic energy of those on the front lines of change. If comedy did all that and kept people sane, it would be a lot.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Rob Kozlowski – ‘Becoming Nick and Nora’ Dec 19, 2023

    Kelly chats with author Rob Kozlowski about a movie franchise that is dear to both of them and the subject of Rob’s latest book: “Becoming Nick and Nora: The Thin Man and the Films of William Powell and Myrna Loy.”

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    “The characters of Nick and Nora Charles remain the standard for married couples in the movies.”

    “There is one incontrovertible appeal about Nick and Nora Charles that will never change: they like each other.”

    “The problem with most long-lasting film series, and certainly long-lasting TV series, is that at some point the characters are locked into themselves.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Brad Stulberg – ‘Master of Change’ Dec 12, 2023

    Kelly welcomes Brad Stulberg back to the podcast, the well-being expert is on the faculty of the University of Michigan and his new book is called “Master of Change: How to Excel When Everything is Changing – Including You.”

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    “Our biggest personal and collective challenges revolve around change.”

    “The best approach is to combine fierce self-discipline and fierce self-compassion.”

    “Perhaps nothing brings people together more than shared hardship.”

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    Getting to Yes And…| Lindsay Shookus – ‘From Saturday Night Live to Woman Work F’ing Hard’ Dec 05, 2023

    Kelly has a fun conversation with longtime Saturday Night Live producer Lindsay Shookus about her experiences at the legendary comedy show as well as her current work co-leading the platform and networking community “Woman Work F’ing Hard.”

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    “Expecting perfection is guaranteed disappointment.”

    “You’re not helping the woman next to you if you’re not being honest.”

    “Whenever you’re struggling, it’s so important to have a cheerleader who’s there for you.”

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    Getting to Yes And… | Mike Bridenstine – Chicago-Style Comedy: ‘The Perfect Amount of Wrong’ Nov 28, 2023

    Kelly reminisces with Chicago-bred comedian and author Mike Bridenstine whose new book is called “The Perfect Amount of Wrong: The Rise of Alt Comedy on Chicago’s North Side.”

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    “Chicago was an improv town and everybody knew it.”

    “None of it was glamorous. None of it should have worked at all.”

    “During that brief period, I was forced to unlearn everything I thought I knew about comedy.”

    Getting to Yes And… | Morgan Housel – ‘Same as Ever: A Guide to What Never Changes’ Nov 21, 2023

    Kelly talks to best-selling author Morgan Housel whose book “The Psychology of Money” sold over 3 million copies. His new book, “Same as Ever: A Guide to What Never Changes,” is a fascinating look at history’s most powerful lessons.

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    “Asking what the biggest risks are is like asking what you expect to be surprised about.”

    “The world breaks about once every ten years, on average – always has, always will.”

    “Mind-sets are harder to repair than buildings and cash flows.”

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    Getting to Yes And… | Michael Gervais – ‘The First Rule of Mastery’ Nov 14, 2023

    Kelly sits down with high-performance psychologist Michael Gervais to talk about his new book “The First Rule of Mastery: Stop Worrying About What People Think of You.”

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    “The sooner you fundamentally change your relationship with other people’s opinions, the sooner you become free.”

    “The idea that we can take a magic pill that makes our fears disappear is seductive but not a reality.”

    “Our interdependence is an inexorable fact of life.”

    Getting to Yes And… | Michelle Lamont – ‘Seeing Others’ Nov 07, 2023

    Kelly has a timely conversation with Harvard University professor Michele Lamont to discuss her new book “Seeing Others: How Recognition Works and How it Can Heal a Divided World.”

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    “Identity is and has always been a basis for hateful attacks.”

    “Unlike optimism, hope is not an expression of our temperament, but a plan for the future.”

    “We cannot ignore worth any more than we can poverty or inequality.”

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    Getting to Yes And… | Catalina Daniels & James Sherman – ‘Smart Startups’ Oct 31, 2023

    Kelly spends time with Catalina Daniels and James Sherman, two entrepreneurs who met at Harvard Business School and have written a new book: “Smart Startups: What Every Entrepreneur Needs to Know.”

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    “Knowing you are meant to be an entrepreneur is a journey unto itself.”

    “As soon as you observe a rising tide, you’re too late.”

    “Hire for curiosity.”

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    Getting to Yes And… | Jill Stoddard – ‘Imposter No More’ Oct 24, 2023

    Kelly talks to Jill Stoddard, the founder and director of The Center for Stress and Anxiety Management, to discuss her new book “Imposter No More: Overcome Self-Doubt and Imposterism to Cultivate a Successful Career.”

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    “If you didn’t care, you wouldn’t worry about being exposed as incompetent.”

    “The imposter voice often grows rather than shrinks with success.”

    “Our minds are master critics.”

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    Getting to Yes And…|Suneel Gupta – “Everyday Dharma” Oct 17, 2023

    Kelly welcomes back Suneel Gupta to the podcast to talk about his new book “Everyday Dharma: 8 Essential Practices for Finding Success and Joy in What You Do.”

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    “For too long, we have fixated on the future of work and ignored the future of worth.”

    “It’s easy to recognize when you’re lost in the woods. The hard part is finding your way home.”

    “As it turns out, a great work ethic requires a disciplined rest ethic.”

    Getting to Yes And…| Keegan-Michael Key and Elle Key – ‘The History of Sketch Comedy: Live at the Chicago Humanities Festival’ Oct 15, 2023

    Kelly interviews Keegan-Michael Key and Elle Key live at the Chicago Humanities Festival to discuss their new book “The History of Sketch Comedy: A Journey Through the Art and Craft of Humor.”

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    “There is something about comedy that is primal.”

    “Just because something is uncomfortable, doesn’t mean it’s wrong.”

    “There was always a parachute and I learned that parachute was my imagination.”

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    Getting to Yes And… | Liz Tran – ‘The Karma of Success’ Oct 10, 2023


    Kelly connects with Liz Tran, the founder of Reset – an executive coaching and wellness company – to talk about her new book “The Karma of Success: Spiritual Strategies to Free Your Inner Genius.”

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    “Our work selves and our home selves are not separate beings.”

    “Get out of your own way and allow what is already happening to happen.”

    “Play is at the center of reality.”

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    Getting to Yes And… | Frances Frei and Anne Morriss – ‘Move Fast and Fix Things’ Oct 03, 2023

    Kelly welcomes Harvard professor Frances Frei back to the podcast along with leadership coach Anne Morriss to talk about their new book: “Move Fast and Fix Things: The Trusted Leader’s Guide to Solving Hard Problems.”

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    “The fastest way to mess up change leadership is to make it about you.”

    “The most important item on your packing list today is curiosity.”

    “Difference is a source of creativity, innovation, and strength.”

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    Getting to Yes And… | Susan Magsamen and Ivy Ross – ‘Your Brain on Art’ Sep 26, 2023

    Kelly talks to Susan Magsamen and Ivy Ross about the science behind art. The pair have written the book “Your Brain on Art: How the Arts Transforms Us.”

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    “We now have scientific proof that the arts are essential to our very survival.”

    “Your brain loves a good metaphor.”

    “Curiosity is a building block of flourishing.”

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    Getting to Yes And… | Hal Hershfield – ‘Your Future Self’ Sep 19, 2023

    Kelly connects with UCLA professor Hal Hershfield to talk about his new book “Your Future Self: How To Make Tomorrow Better Today.”

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    “Your fate is not fixed. Not even close.”

    “We can never really know our future selves.”

    “You are actually a we.”

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    Getting to Yes And… | Amy Edmondson – ‘The Right Kind of Wrong’ Sep 12, 2023

    Kelly welcomes back renowned Harvard professor Amy Edmondson to the podcast to discuss her new book “The Right Kind of Wrong: The Science of Failing Well.”

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    “Most of us fail to learn the valuable lessons failures can offer.”

    “Everyone fails at failure.”

    “When it comes to errors, intent matters.”

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    Getting to Yes And… | Jeffrey Sweet – ‘Something Wonderful Right Away’ Sep 05, 2023

    Kelly sits down with playwright and author Jeffrey Sweet to discuss the new edition of his legendary book “Something Wonderful Right Away,” an oral history of The Second City.

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    Getting to Yes And… | Mike Lukas – ‘Finding Your Funny Muscle’ Aug 29, 2023

    Kelly reconnects with Second City alum Mike Lukas to talk about his new book, “Finding Your Funny Muscle: How to Create Laughs Like a Pro.”

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    “A good laugh can feel better than sex on drugs in a rock and roll hot tub.”

    “Bottom line, humor isn’t some obscure concept that only the chosen few can master.”

    “Shared pain makes us laugh together so we don’t have to cry and scare the children.”

    Getting to Yes And… | Jason Del Rey – ‘Winner Sells All’ Aug 22, 2023

    Kelly speaks to journalist Jason Del Rey to discuss his new book, “Winner Sells All: Amazon, Walmart and the Battle For Our Wallets.”

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    “You can either choose to disrupt yourself or be caught flatfooted when disruption chooses you.”

    “This might not have been move fast and break things, but it was at times, move fast and fake things.”

    “A world where one winner sells all is a world where everyone loses.”

    Getting to Yes And… | Christian Madsbjerg – ‘Look’ Aug 15, 2023

    Kelly speaks with Christian Madsbjerg, co-founder of the consulting firm ReD Associates and professor of applied humanities at the New School in New York City. He has a new book called “Look: How to Pay Attention in a Distracted World.”

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    “Creativity is never radical, insights are.”

    “Stop talking and try listening. What will you hear in the silence?”

    “The observer’s role is to move beyond what’s said or done to truly understand why people behave the way they do.”

    Getting to Yes And… | Vanessa Patrick – ‘The Power of Saying No’ Aug 08, 2023

    Kelly steps out of “Yes, And” mode to talk to University of Houston professor Vanessa Patrick about her new book “The Power of Saying No: The New Science of How to Say No That Puts You in Charge of Your life.”

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    “There is little upside to saying yes when we want to say no.”

    “The way we think about things – our mindset – matters.”

    “Face-to-face is thirty-four times more effective in getting you to say yes.”

    Getting to Yes And… | Sally Jenkins – ‘The Right Call’ Aug 07, 2023

    Kelly speaks with legendary Washington Post sportswriter Sally Jenkins about her new book, “The Right Call: What Sports Teach us About the Art of Decision Making.”

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    “No one succeeds alone, not even a LeBron James.”

    “The brain robs your body of the energy to think.”

    “Good practice is transformative.”

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    Getting to Yes, And… | Neil Mullarkey – ‘In The Moment’ Jul 25, 2023

    Kelly connects across the pond with Neil Mullarkey, who began his comedy career in a duo with Mike Myers, improvised with London’s legendary Comedy Store Players, and applied his knowledge of improvisation to the world of business management training. He has a new book, “In the Moment: Build Your Confidence, Communication and Creativity at Work.”

    You can find Neil on Twitter, Instagram and Threads @neilmullarkey. Visit his website and neilmullarkey.com and LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/in/neilmullarkey/

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    “Improv at its heart is about making others look good.”

    “Story is the original human software.”

    “Almost every conversation you have relies upon improv to some extent.”

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    Getting to Yes And… | Morten Christiansen and Nick Chater – ‘The Language Game’ Jul 18, 2023

    Kelly has a fascinating conversation with scholars Morten Christiansen and Nick Chater to talk about their new book, “The Language Game: How Improvisation Created Language and Changed the World.”

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    “Actual language is always a matter of improvisation, of finding an effective way to meet the communicative demands of the moment.”

    “Language is continually invented in the moment and reinvented each time we play again.”

    “What matters for language learning is practice, practice, and more practice.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Rob Cross and Karen Dillon – ‘The Microstress Effect’ Jul 11, 2023

    Kelly talks to Babson College professor Rob Cross and returning guest Karen Dillon of the Harvard Business Review to discuss their new book: “The Microstress Effect: How Little Things Pile Up and Create Big Problems – and What to Do About It.”

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    “You can’t always control what you’re asked to do, but you can control how you respond.”

    “Our brains are hardwired for emotional contagion.”

    “Few people find happiness in isolation.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Zeynep Ton – ‘The Case for Good Jobs’ Jul 04, 2023

    Kelly sits down with Zeynep Ton, Professor of the Practice in the Operations Management group at MIT Sloan School of Management, to discuss her new book “The Case for Good Jobs: How Great Companies Bring Dignity, Pay, and Meaning to Everyone’s Work.”

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    “A jockey on an injured horse isn’t going to win just because you doubled his pay.”

    “Bad jobs go a long way to creating bad workers.”

    “Having multiple jobs makes life stressful.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Dan Lyons – “STFU” Jun 27, 2023

    Kelly connects with Dan Lyons, journalist and former staff writer for the famed television series “Silicon Valley” to discuss his new book, “STFU: The Power of Keeping Your Mouth Shut in an Endlessly Noisy World.”

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    “Talking is like breathing. You don’t think about it; you just do it.”

    “Our brains suck at multitasking. Trying to do it makes us dumber – literally.”

    “Most people are terrible listeners.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Adam Alter – Anatomy of a Breakthrough Jun 20, 2023

    Kelly welcomes back NYU marketing professor Adam Alter to the podcast to talk about his new book, “Anatomy of a Breakthrough: How to Get Unstuck When It Matters Most.”

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    “People tend to get stuck in the middle.”

    “The best way to be lucky is to persevere because luck overlaps with longevity.”
    “Most of the time, people overestimate the novelty of their ideas.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Marcus Collins – ‘For the Culture’ Jun 13, 2023

    Kelly Leonard, Executive Director of Learning & Applied Improvisation at Second City Works, connects with Marcus Collins, the head of strategy at Wieden+Kennedy and a clinical assistant professor of marketing at The Ross School of Business, University of Michigan, to discuss his new book: “For The Culture: The Power Behind What We Buy, What We Do, And Who We Want To Be.”

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    “Culture is our everyday life.”
    “Trust is key. And where there is trust, love is right around the corner.”
    “Nothing is more emotional to us than us.”

    BONUS PODCAST: Getting to Yes, And… | Yasmin Elhady, Crystal Echo Hawk, Caty Borum – ‘Comedy’s Serious Role in Human Rights’ Jun 09, 2023

    BONUS PODCAST: This bonus podcast was taped live at the Up Comedy Club at The Second City. Kelly Leonard, Executive Director of Learning & Applied Improvisation at Second City Works, hosts a podcast taping with a stellar panel of guests to look at how comedy is an effective tool in the struggle for human rights. Presented by the MacArthur Foundation, Pillars Fund and The Second City.

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    “Comedy is not only cathartic, but it helps build resilience.”

    “There are a ton of really talented Native creatives in the industry, and that is part of the myth that we’re trying to bust here.”

    “If you are so scared to risk anything, you just end up paralyzing everything.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Jean Twenge – ‘Generations’ Jun 06, 2023

    Kelly sits down with Jean Twenge, Professor of Psychology at San Diego State University and the author of “Generations: The Real Difference Between Gen Z, Millennials, Gen X, Boomers, and Silents – and What They Mean for America’s Future.”

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    “Each generation is softer than the one before it.”

    “The United States does not just have a growing income gape; it also has a growing happiness gap.”

    “Older generations underestimate Gen Z at their peril.”

    BONUS PODCAST: Getting to Yes, And… | Seth Godin – ‘The Song of Significance’ Jun 02, 2023

    BONUS PODCAST: Kelly Leonard, Executive Director of Learning & Applied Improvisation at Second City Works, welcomes the legendary Seth Godin back to the podcast to talk about his new book “The Song of Significance: A New Manifesto for Teams.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4124846/4124846_2023-05-26-160546.64kmono.mp3

    “The work of significance embraces the very things that industrialism seeks to stamp out.”

    “What each revolution has in common is that it is inconvenient.”

    “Fear is an easy tool, but it rarely builds a resilient organization.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Ha-Joon Chang – ‘Edible Economics’ May 30, 2023

    Kelly Leonard, Executive Director of Learning & Applied Improvisation at Second City Works, gets a lesson in both food and economics from Professor Ha-Joon Chang when they discuss his new book “Edible Economics: A Hungry Economist Explains the World.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4124837/4124837_2023-05-26-155337.64kmono.mp3

    “We Koreans don’t just eat garlic. We process it. In industrial quantities. We are garlic.”

    “This ‘invisibility’ of household work is such that we talk of ‘working mothers,’ as if mothers who stay at home do not work.”

    “Since the 1980’s, economics has become the British food scene before the 1990’s. One tradition – Neoclassical economics – has become the only item on the menu.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Neelu Kaur – ‘Be Your Own Cheerleader’ May 23, 2023

    Kelly Leonard, Executive Director of Learning & Applied Improvisation at Second City Works, talks to facilitator, Neuro-Linguistic Programming Executive Coach, and Burnout Management Specialist Neelu Kaur about her new book, “Be Your Own Cheerleader: An Asian and South Asian Woman’s Cultural, Psychological, and Spiritual Guide to Self-Promote at Work.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4123348/4123348_2023-05-22-214848.64kmono.mp3

    “We teach people how we want to be treated.”

    “It’s quicker to change the mind with the body than it is with the mind.”

    “American parents are perennial cheerleaders for their children in a way that Asian parents often are not.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Daniel T. Willingham – ‘Outsmart Your Brain’ May 16, 2023

    Kelly Leonard, Executive Director of Learning & Applied Improvisation at Second City Works, connects with University of Virginia psychologist Daniel T. Willingham to talk about his new book, “Outsmart Your Brain: Why Learning is Hard and How You Can Make it Easy.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4121004/4121004_2023-05-15-223104.64kmono.mp3

    “It may come as a surprise, but people can be mistaken about what they know.”
    “Anytime you multitask, you are distracting yourself.”
    “Feeling anxious is uncomfortable, but it’s not dangerous.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Kevin Kruse – ‘Myth America’ May 12, 2023

    BONUS POD: Kelly Leonard, Executive Director of Learning & Applied Improvisation at Second City Works, talks to Princeton historian Kevin Kruse about his new book “Myth America: Historians Take on The Biggest Legends and Lies About Our Past.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4117005/4117005_2023-05-03-173305.64kmono.mp3

    “American Exceptionalism has a double meaning.”
    “Political myths are never far from conspiratorial thinking.”
    “Few myths have the staying power and such a stranglehold on the American imagination than that of the Lost Cause.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Surbhi Sarna – ‘Without a Doubt’ May 09, 2023

    Kelly Leonard, Executive Director of Learning & Applied Improvisation at Second City Works, Kelly has a conversation with entrepreneur Surbhi Sarna who has a new book “Without a Doubt: How to Go From Underrated to Unbeatable.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4117005/4117005_2023-05-03-173305.64kmono.mp3

    “Entrepreneurs are people who build their own ladders while also climbing them.”

    “Taking care of yourself is a demonstration that you do know your worth.”

    “Leaders need to be aware of power dynamics and create environments where a diverse set of people feel safe and respected.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Sarah Rose Cavanagh – ‘Mind Over Monsters’ May 02, 2023

    Kelly Leonard, Executive Director of Learning & Applied Improvisation at Second City Works, welcomes back Sarah Rose Cavanagh to the podcast. Sarah is an associate professor of practice in psychology at Simmons University and the author of “Mind Over Monsters: Supporting Youth Mental Health with Compassionate Challenge.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4116619/4116619_2023-05-02-181119.64kmono.mp3

    “The principal purpose of our brains is to manage the budget of our bodies.”
    “No issue has been more ridiculed than safe spaces and trigger warnings.”
    “Trust, after all, is the critical part of a trust fall.”

    Getting to Yes, And…  | Rainn Wilson – Live at the Chicago Humanities Festival Apr 28, 2023

    BONUS PODCASTS: Kelly Leonard, Executive Director of Learning & Applied Improvisation at Second City Works, records a live podcast with beloved actor, writer and producer Rainn Wilson for the Chicago Humanities Festival to talk about his new book “Soul Boom.” This episode was recorded live April 21, 2023 at The Francis Parker School in Chicago, IL.

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4114371/4114371_2023-04-26-173011.64kmono.mp3

    “One of the principal notions underpinning this book: We are all on a spiritual path.”

    “I needed to seek spirituality because I was really frigging unhappy.”

    “There will be no SoulBoom without potlucks.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Ben Alderson-Day – ‘Presence’ Apr 25, 2023

    Kelly Leonard, Executive Director of Learning & Applied Improvisation at Second City Works, crosses the Atlantic to talk to Ben Alderson-Day, an Associate Professor of Psychology at Durham University and the author of “Presence: The Strange Science and True Stories of the Unseen Other.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4113655/4113655_2023-04-25-003055.64kmono.mp3

    “Some presences lead. And some our led.”

    “How our bodies and our minds respond to hardship and adversity might be very different depending on our need for others in that moment, depending on the answer to a simple question: do you feel alone?”

    “We might know how we are supposed to think about things, but the mind – and the world – often has other plans.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Katherine Morgan Schafler – ‘The Perfectionist’s Guide to Losing Control’ Apr 18, 2023

    Kelly talks to Katherine Morgan Schafler, a psychotherapist, writer, speaker and former on-site therapist at Google, about her new book “The Perfectionist’s Guide to Losing Control: A Path to Peace and Power.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4109952/4109952_2023-04-13-163652.64kmono.mp3

    “Perfectionism is meant to be managed, not destroyed.”

    “The language we use reflects the culture we live in.”

    “We’re all in pain, and most of us simply do not know what do about that.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Bruce Jackson – ‘Never Far From Home’ Apr 11, 2023

    Kelly meets Bruce Jackson, associate general counsel for Microsoft and a former entertainment attorney. He has a new memoir, “Never Far From Home: My Journey from Brooklyn to Hip Hop, Microsoft, and the Law.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4107366/4107366_2023-04-06-014206.64kmono.mp3

    “You can live a Black life at home, in your own bubble, but when you walk out the door it’s a white world. That’s what my father wanted us to realize.”

    “By Talking about our roots, by exploring and acknowledging our commonality, we give others hope.”

    “My mother’s family concerned itself with survival over everything. Education is great, but such things take a back seat when simply breathing another day feels barely within reach.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Yael Schonbrun – ‘Work, Parent, Thrive’ Apr 04, 2023

    Kelly sits on the couch with clinical psychologist Yael Schonbrun to talk about her new book “Work, Parent, Thrive: 12 Science-backed Strategies To Ditch Guilt, Manage Overwhelm and Grown Connection (When Everything Feels Like Too Much).”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4105295/4105295_2023-03-30-020635.64kmono.mp3

    “Getting hooked on labels can propel you toward your less-than-ideal self – not what most of us are aiming for.”

    “While you are a character in your story, you’re also the narrator.”

    “Stress isn’t what kills us; our reaction to it does.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Ben Ramalingam – ‘Upshift’ Mar 28, 2023

    Kelly connects with Ben Ramalingam, who just became the Director of Strategy for the British Red Cross and has been a senior leader, innovator, and researcher specializing in international crisis management and development. His new book is called “Upshift: Turning Pressure into Performance and Crisis into Creativity.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4103456/4103456_2023-03-23-235256.64kmono.mp3
    Getting to Yes, And… | Anuradha Dayal-Gulati, Ph.D. – ‘Heal Your Ancestral Roots’ Mar 21, 2023

    Kelly talks to Anuradha Dayal-Gulati who, after fifteen years in finance and academia, began a new path of helping people release the past and reclaim their power. Her new book is titled “Heal Your Ancestral Roots: Release the Family Patterns That Hold You Back.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4100824/4100824_2023-03-16-005524.64kmono.mp3

    “If we don’t live with intention and courage, we are likely to find ourselves and our day hijacked by others, including our ancestors.”

    “Like the backstories of a character in a novel, the experiences of your ancestors affect your life, even if you are unaware of them.”

    “America is an individualistic culture, yet we are not islands.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | David Glasgow – ‘Say The Right Thing’ Mar 14, 2023

    Kelly connects with David Glasgow, NYU Law School professor and the Executive Director of the Melzer Center for Diversity, Inclusion and Belonging. He has a new book co-written with Kenji Yoshino called “Say The Right Thing: How to Talk About Identity, Diversity and Justice.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4099979/4099979_2023-03-13-231919.64kmono.mp3

    “It’s impossible to live in a biased society without bias seeping into your beliefs and actions.”

    “A culture of free speech can and should go hand in hand with a culture of respect.”

    “In real life, an apology is usually a dialogue, not a monologue.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Gabriella Rosen Kellerman – ‘Tomorrowmind’ Mar 07, 2023

    Kelly sits down with MD and Chief Innovation Officer at BetterUP, Gabriella Rosen Kellerman, to discuss her new book co-authored with Martin Seligman: “Tomorrowmind: Thriving at Work – Now and in an Uncertain Future.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4097605/4097605_2023-03-06-233505.64kmono.mp3

    “Agency protects us from learned helplessness.”

    “No one has shown that hugging a computer can produce oxytocin.”

    “Creativity need not be like rain, something we pray for and hope to receive. It’s inside each of us – native to our species and bound up with our very humanity.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Caty Borum – ‘The Revolution Will Be Hilarious’ Mar 03, 2023

    Kelly re-connects with American University professor Caty Borum whose new book, “The Revolution Will Be Hilarious,” looks at the intersection of social justice and comedy.

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4094700/4094700_2023-02-26-234700.64kmono.mp3

    “Creativity and culture are still too often relegated to the theoretical sidelines of serious advocacy work.”

    “Comedy resides within a great tradition of artistic activism as a mechanism to push for social change.”

    “Comedy is unexpected and disruptive. It is a critique and an invitation.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Tara Schuster – ‘Glow in the F’ing Dark’ Feb 28, 2023

    Kelly connects with former Comedy Central executive Tara Schuster to talk about her powerful book about the work she’s done as an adult to overcome a very rough childhood.

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4094699/4094699_2023-02-26-232339.64kmono.mp3

    “If you’re not dealing with the thing you know you need to deal with, it’s dealing with you.”

    “Time does not heal all wounds; it just gives them wrinkles.”

    “If you wait to get inspired to achieve everything you want, you might be waiting a very long time. Just start, there’s magic in motion.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Patrick House – ‘Consciousness’ Feb 21, 2023

    Kelly has a wild conversation with neuroscientist Patrick House about his new book “19 Ways of Looking at Consciousness.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4092780/4092780_2023-02-21-050620.64kmono.mp3

    “The brain abhors a story vacuum.”

    “Like the oceans, like an orchestra, the brain has cadence.”

    “Speech and laughter are uniquely human. Although there is considerable information on the neuronal representation of speech, little is known about brain mechanisms of laughter.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Scott Barry Kaufman and Jordyn Feingold – ‘Choose Growth’ Feb 14, 2023

    Kelly spends Valentine’s Day with Scott Barry Kaufman and Jordyn Feingold to talk about their amazing new book, “Choose Growth: A Workbook for Transcending Trauma, Fear, and Self-Doubt.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4089860/4089860_2023-02-12-125700.64kmono.mp3

    “Aside from the obvious benefits of laughter to bring about a more positive mood, the body’s experience of laughter literally stimulates our vagus nerve to allow calm to wash over the body.”

    “Failure is an essential part of growth.”

    “Creativity is like a muscle: You use it or lose it.”

    Getting to Yes, And… | Geoffrey Cohen – ‘Belonging’ Feb 08, 2023

    Kelly has a fascinating conversation with Stanford professor Geoffrey Cohen about his new book, “Belonging: The Science of Creating Connection and Bridging Divides.”

    https://serve.castfire.com/audio/4086275/4086275_2023-02-02-015015.64kmono.mp3

    “Don’t believe everything you think.”

    “Our genetic code matters, but so does our zip code.”

    “The meaning of a situation isn’t something that each of us alone gets to choose.”

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