Scriptnotes Podcast - John August and Craig Mazin

444 - Clueless (Encore) Nov 19, 2024

John and Craig analyze the iconic 1995 comedy Clueless, and why they’re majorly, totally, butt crazy in love with it.

A contemporary adaptation of Jane Austen’s Emma set in Beverly Hills, Clueless follows protagonist Cher as she tries to do ‘good’ through make-over montages and match-making attempts. We discuss how the movie sets up the characters in the first ten minutes, why Cher’s voiceover works so well, and how Clueless ushered in a new era of teen movies.

In our bonus segment for premium members, John and Craig share their own experiences learning to drive and how they’re preparing to teach their teenage daughters driving.

Links:

Clueless
Clueless Script
Episode Transcript
8D sound example
Creme Mains hand creme
O’Keefe’s Working Hands cream
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665 - What Can You Even Do? Nov 12, 2024

John and Craig explore character agency in everything from scenes to entire series. They look at what agency looks like on the page, which characters should have agency, and what to do when you feel your characters sleepwalking through the plot.

We also strategize ways to move forward after the recent US election, and answer listener questions on writing sign language, screenwriting software for the blind, and how writing credits work when your TV series gets turned into a movie.

In our bonus segment for premium members, John and Craig escape to a world where where the story is always on rails — Disneyland!

Links:

Scriptnotes LIVE! December 6th at Dynasty Typewriter
Even Under Trump, California (Yes, That Hellscape) Will Keep Moving the World Forward by James Fallows for WIRED
The Great Big Book of Horrible Things: The Definitive Chronicle of History’s 100 Worst Atrocities by Matthew White
And Yet It Moves by Ken White
Martha on Netflix
Replacement ear pads for Sony MDR-7506 headphones
The Quantum Geometry That Exists Outside of Space and Time by Charlie Wood for WIRED
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664 - Hollywood Got Old Nov 05, 2024

John and Craig look at how writers (and other humans) handle the anxiety of uncertainty, from election nights to green lights. We’ll talk through strategies for navigating situations where your circle of concern doesn’t match your circle of control.

Then we travel back to the 1980s and 90s, when many studios were run by ambitious strivers in their late 20s and early 30s. As the decades have passed, the players in these positions have held onto their posts, leaving the next generation stuck mid-ladder. We discuss what impact the aging of Hollywood has had on its output, and where the new guard might find an opening.

We also ask, is development wage theft? And answer listener questions on reusing material written for a different project, and the cost-plus model of production.

And in our bonus topic for premium members, what aspects of pandemic life have we incorporated into our daily routines?

Links:

Scriptnotes LIVE! December 6th at Dynasty Typewriter
AlphaBirds Game Night at Village Well
The Big Squeeze: Why Everyone in Hollywood Feels Stuck by Mia Gallupo for the Hollywood Reporter
‘Development is Wage Theft’: Pilot Season Death Morphs Into Year-Round Hell by Elaine Low for The Ankler
Isle of Arrows
Rejection by Tony Tulathimutte
Mr. McMahon on Netflix
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663 - Live in Austin 2024 Oct 29, 2024

John and Craig make their triumphant return to the Austin Film Festival for a wild night full of Emmy winning writers. They welcome Shōgun co-creators Rachel Kondo & Justin Marks to look at their process for structuring a series-long adaptation, keeping translations eloquent and accurate, and writing together as a married couple.

We then welcome Susan Soon He Stanton (Succession, Dead Ringers) and Megan Amram (The Good Place, Pitch Perfect: Bumper in Berlin) to discuss staffing on shows and crafting jokes. We also invite two audience members to play a new game: IMDB Sweeney Todd.

In our bonus segment for premium members, the panel answers audience questions on adaptations, a crossover with Succession and The Good Place, entering Hollywood from outside the U.S., and navigating Hollywood’s current contraction.

Links:

Austin Film Festival
Scriptnotes LIVE! December 6th at Dynasty Typewriter
Rachel Kondo and Justin Marks
Megan Amram
Susan Soon He Stanton
Decoder Ring – “The Wrongest Bird in Movie History”
Vote Out Ted Cruz
Brick App
r/TVTooHigh
Bliss Lau
A Dream of Islands by Gavan Daws
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662 - 20 Questions (2024 Edition) Oct 22, 2024

John and Craig answer twenty listener questions on craft, career, and the future of the industry.

Questions include: How do you correct well wishes you haven’t earned? What kind of relationship should you have with the person who created your source material? How do you keep your reps invested? What’s going on with that Stereophonic lawsuit? And are writers retreats helpful or a total waste of time?

In our bonus segment for premium members, John and Craig celebrate the new D&D Player’s Handbook by looking back through every edition since 1978. Like the handbook, it gets less dense as it goes.

Links:

Scriptnotes LIVE! at Austin Film Festival
Drew’s Emmy certificate
Why AI Isn’t Going to Make Art by Ted Chiang for The New Yorker
The Stereophonic Lawsuit
Rachel Bloom’s “Death, Let Me Do My Special” on Netflix
Warner Bros. Studios Burbank
Save Scarecrow Video in Seattle
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661 - Screenwriting is a Poorly Defined Problem Oct 15, 2024

Why is screenwriting so difficult, even for the smartest people? John and Craig look at the relationship between intelligence and wisdom, the kinds of problems writers attempt to solve, and the unmeasurable skills that screenwriters need to succeed.

Then it’s another round of the Three Page Challenge, where they give their honest feedback on three listener-submitted scripts. We also follow up on Moneyball, green envelopes, shorts, script coordinating, and what Craig means by writers being “calculating.”

In our bonus segment for premium members, how do you talk about movies and TV shows without spoiling them? John and Craig reason out how to dance around the twist that the two leads are actually the same perso– oh, shoot!

Links:

Quote-Unquote Marketing Director – Apply Here!
Veteran Script Coordinator on YouTube
Why aren’t smart people happier? by Adam Mastroianni
Middle Aged Man – SNL
FLUNGE by J Wheeler White, COWS by John and Mark DiStefano, and NEVER DIE ALONE by Yeong-Jay Lee
The Cutting Edge
Strange Darling
My Old Ass
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660 - Moneyball Oct 08, 2024

John and Craig welcome back Taffy Brodesser-Akner (Fleishman is in Trouble) for a deep dive on 2011’s sports drama Moneyball.

What makes Moneyball work? Is it a traditional underdog movie, or does it break all the rules? Is Billy Beane a hero or a villain? What advantages do sports movies give you, and how much do you have to explain to your audience? How are movies like this developed? And how can you not be romantic about baseball?

In our bonus segment for premium members, John, Craig and Taffy dig further into the ways money is used to determine a person’s value.

Links:

Moneyball on IMDb
Moneyball screenplay
Taffy Brodesser-Akner
Long Island Compromise by Taffy Brodesser-Akner
Scriptnotes LIVE! at the Austin Film Festival
Highland Pro Austin launch party – sign up here!
ABBA Voyage
Opti-V fireplace
Ken Medlock
Imprint App
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271 - Buckling Down (Encore) Oct 01, 2024

John and Craig are on opposite sides of the world this week, so they’re revisiting an episode from 2016 to look at the many psychological barriers facing writers tackling big projects, and offer practical strategies for actually getting the work done.

They also discuss the then-upcoming election (same as it ever was), and answer a listener question about how autism spectrum disorder might impact a screenwriting career.

In our bonus segment for premium members, John and Drew reflect on what’s changed in the eight years since this episode last aired, and then like all conversations in 2024, they just start talking about Moo Deng.

Links:

Episode 271: Buckling Down – Transcript
Inevitable Foundation
Forest, Snowstorm and Howling Wind ambiance tracks
Julia Roberts To Star In Feature Film About PTA Mom Framed For Drug Possession by Nellie Andreeva for Deadline
Here’s How to Finish That F*ing Book, You Monster by Chuck Wendig
Wikitravel
The Writers Guild Foundation
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659 - Big Money Movies with Marielle Heller Sep 24, 2024

John welcomes back Marielle Heller (Can You Ever Forgive Me?, A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood) to look at three stories of real people with too much money and ask, How Would This Be a Movie? Stories include strategies for dating Leonardo DiCaprio, the rise-fall-rise of inventor Palmer Luckey, and a council built to give away a fortune.

We also go feral over Marielle’s new movie Nightbitch, as she shares the joys of adapting something that feels personal and her tricks to directing dogs and children. But first, we take a look at a new study on which movies studios are developing, and share exciting news for those joining us at the Austin Film Festival.

In our bonus segment for premium members, Marielle and John remember the terror, nerves and euphoria of premiering your movie at film festivals.

Links:

Nightbitch | Official Trailer
Marielle Heller
Highland Pro Austin launch party – sign up here!
MacGruber on Peacock
Hollywood’s 10 Percent Problem by Matt Belloni at Puck
Dating a Celebrity – Thread by bo.predko
American Vulcan by Jeremy Stern for Tablet
How to Give Away a Fortune by Joshua Yaffa for The New Yorker
You Get to Be Fulfilled Now by Teresa Jusino
Bird Milk & Mosquito Bones by Priyanka Mattoo
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99 - Psychotherapy for Screenwriters (Encore) Sep 17, 2024

John and Craig revisit their legendary conversation with screenwriter-turned-psychotherapist Dennis Palumbo to discuss writer’s block, procrastination, partnerships and more. It’s a can’t-miss episode for aspiring writers and professionals alike.

In our bonus segment for premium members, we travel back to episode 425 where John and Craig debate when to practice self care or tough love, and how to evaluate when each of them are helpful.

Links:

Dennis Palumbo
Written by Magazine
Dennis’s books on Goodreads
Impostor Syndrome on Wikipedia
The Imposter
Paper Karma helps you control your mailbox
The Secret in Their Eyes
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658 - Advice Show Sep 10, 2024

John and Craig open the mailbag to answer a swath of listener questions that make Craig’s blood boil. They offer insights and umbrage on when you can turn down projects early in your career, picking the right day job, maintaining visibility when you’re taken off a project, the next steps after a successful short, when NDA’s are necessary, and how to credit unpublished source material.

We also say goodbye to green envelopes as we celebrate the arrival of direct deposit residuals, and follow up on AI training and GitHub for screenplays.

In our bonus segment for premium members, John and Craig abandon their superciliousness look at the English words they kind of know but are too chicken to actually ever use.

Links:

Move Over Green Envelopes, WGA Rolls Out Direct Deposits For Residuals by Peter White for Deadline
WGA Screen Credits Manual
CDC Recommends Updated 2024-2025 COVID-19 and Flu Vaccines for Fall/Winter Virus Season
Hide posts on Threads
Baldur’s Gate 3
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657 - Deadpool with Ryan Reynolds Sep 03, 2024

John and Craig welcome back Ryan Reynolds for an in-depth look at his creative process bringing the character of Deadpool to the screen.

As co-writer, producer and star of the Deadpool franchise, Ryan leads us through his first introduction to the character, the rough journey getting to greenlight, and the challenges presented by an often-faceless protagonist. Along the way, they talk tone and dialogue, collaboration and rule-breaking, respect and irreverence, and the importance of listening to the movie. Ryan also has some writing questions for John and Craig.

In our bonus segment for premium members, we look at Ryan’s flair for marketing and the creative freedom he’s found in advertising.

Links:

Ryan Reynolds on Instagram, TikTok and X
Deadpool & Wolverine
He’s So Annoying by Jesse David Fox for Vulture
Buster Keaton – The Art of the Gag by Every Frame a Painting
TCM – Turner Classic Movies
Ryan Reynolds Guest Programmer | TCM via YouTube
How The Onion is saving itself from the digital media death spiral by Nilay Patel for The Verge
Vancouver, BC
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656 - Halogencore Aug 27, 2024

John welcomes journalist/screenwriter Max Read to look at the emerging sub-genre “halogencore” – stories of corporate malfeasance that are less about uncovering corruption as they are about characters learning to ignore it. They look at the evolution of the sub-genre, how these movies function, and why it’s important to define genres at all.

We also explore the current state of independent journalism and freelance writing, and follow up on Hallmark movies and playwrights turned screenwriters.

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In our bonus segment for premium members, does it feel like time has sped up this summer? Like, even more than usual? John and Max slow it down and find the silver linings of an accelerated world.

Links:

Beta test the new Highland – sign up here!
Max Read’s newsletter READ MAX
Shiva Baby and Good Luck to You, Leo Grande
How many Hallmark Christmas movies are there?! by Stephen Follows
The Read Max ‘Halogencore’ Guide
Max Read’s Halogencore list on Letterboxd
Where Are You Now? by Sara Schaefer
Billy Strings – Dust in a Baggie
In Ascension by Martin MacInnes
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655 - Conflict and Stakes Compendium Aug 20, 2024

In this compendium episode, John and Craig look at two of the most fundamental building blocks of compelling stories – conflict and stakes.

We define six forms of conflict common in movies, and explore ways to sustain conflict within a scene and throughout a story. We also look for ways to find the root of your character’s stakes, pick the right stakes for the world around them, and the importance of making everything personal.

In our bonus segment for premium members, John and Craig look at Whiplash and how it finds conflict at the perfect tempo.

Links:

John’s Video Game Job Posting
Episode 179 – The Conflict Episode
Episode 402 – How Do You Like Your Stakes?
Snowpiercer – Left or Right by Every Frame a Painting on YouTube
Star Trek: The Next Generation In 40 Hours by Max Temkin
Harris’ or Harris’s? Apostrophe row divides grammar nerds from The Guardian
The Heights Deli & Bottle Shop
Cheerios Veggie Blends
Special K Zero
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654 - How to Watch Bad Movies Aug 13, 2024

John and Craig stand waist-deep in rotten tomatoes and ask, what can we learn from bad movies? Resisting the urge to walk out, they explore ways to evaluate a movie’s problems, interrogate your taste, and turn a real stinker into an opportunity to grow as a writer.

We also follow up on Lifetime movies, colored pages and AI screenwriting, and answer listener questions on weirdo characters and the validity of a ghostwriter.

In our bonus segment for premium members, when is it okay to bail on something you no longer enjoy? We look at when to bounce on books, friendships and more.

Links:

WGAW Good and Welfare Emergency Assistance Loans
AI Screenwriter job posting
Pageant of the Masters
Pageant of the Masters Brings Art to Life from the Wall Street Journal on YouTube
Arrested Development – The Living Classics
Severance on Apple TV+
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653 - Multi-Cam Comedies and WGA Dollars Aug 06, 2024

John welcomes writer-director Betsy Thomas (Superior Donuts, Superstore) to finally discuss writing multi-camera sitcoms. Using famous sitcom scripts as guides, they look at how multi-cam sets itself apart through its unique formatting and production, how it utilizes blocking, its surprising limitations in post, and the live studio audience.

But Betsy is more than just a talented creative – she’s also the secretary-treasurer of the WGA West. Who better to lead us through the WGA annual report and look at writer income and residuals in the wake of the strike? We also follow up on gains for writing teams and un-locked pages, and answer listener questions on flashbacks, punctation, and untrustworthy producers.

In our bonus segment for premium members, Betsy explains to John and Megana what makes golf such a wonderful sport.

Links:

Betsy Thomas on Wikipedia and IMDb
Megana Rao on Twitter and IMDb
WGA West Annual Report
Writer Earnings Fell $600 Million Due to Strike and Industry Contraction, WGA Says by Gene Maddus for Variety
Cheers – “Give Me a Ring Sometime” by Glen and Les Charles
Cheers – “Father Knows Last”
Night Court – “Pilot” by Dan Rubin
Friends – “Pilot” by David Crane & Marta Kauffman
What My Adult Autism Diagnosis Finally Explained by Mary HK Choi for The Cut
Unstable – Season 2 on Netflix (hooray Megana Rao!)
Wicked Little Letters on Netflix
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652 - Rituals Jul 30, 2024

John and Craig welcome back Megana Rao to look at rituals and what they can tell us about our characters. But what are characters doing deliberately, and what is just routine? They separate routines from rites, and how both can help deepen our understanding of characters and the threats that face them.

We also follow up on un-locking pages, industry software and health insurance for writing teams, before answering a listener question on transitioning from writing plays to writing movies.

In our bonus segment for premium members, John, Craig and Megana talk about coming-of-age rituals, and Craig reveals the theme of his Bar Mitzvah (it’s even nerdier than you think).

Links:

Standard Operating Procedures from Writer Emergency Pack
Long Island Compromise by Taffy Brodesser-Akner
Free AF non-alcoholic cocktails
Microsoft Re-Designs the iPod Packaging
Fantasmas on HBO/Max
AlphaBirds
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651 - The Live Edit Jul 23, 2024

John and Craig finally become writing partners and edit the opening to one chapter of the upcoming Scriptnotes book live on-air. They wrestle with word choices, adapting the phrasing of a spoken conversation and finding a unified voice as they pass the keyboard back and forth.

We also catch up Craig on what he’s missed since he’s been away, follow up on #payuphollywood, and answer a host of listener questions on personal stories, backstories, sharing credit, Lifetime movies, and disliking your protagonist.

In our bonus segment for premium members, John and Craig deal out their favorite card games.

Links:

AlphaBirds
#PayUpHollywood
Scriptnotes Episode 427 – The New One with Mike Birbiglia and Scriptnotes Episode 640 – Can You Believe It?
A.I. Needs Copper. It Just Helped to Find Millions of Tons of It. by Max Bearak for the New York Times
Love Good Protein
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650 - Overwritten Jul 16, 2024

John welcomes back Mike Schur (The Good Place, Parks and Recreation) to ask, how do you fix an overwritten script? They discuss ways to rebuild scenes and restore muddy characters that have become burdened by too many notes, all while making sure your script retains its voice.

We also look at the new IATSE deal with the AMPTP, the WGA’s back-pay settlement with CBS, Skydance purchasing Paramount, and follow-up on our idea of keeping pages un-locked.

In our bonus segment for premium members, John and Mike listen to the AI generated songs named in the RIAA’s current lawsuit and wonder, did they really steal from copyrighted material? (The answer is yes.)

Links:

Mike Schur on Wikipedia
Weekend Read 2
IATSE tentative basic agreement
David Ellison’s Skydance Taking Over Paramount After $8 Billion Investment by Dade Hayes for Deadline
WGA West Reaches $3 Million Settlement With CBS Studios Over Writer Fees and Benefit Payments by Cynthia Littleton for Variety
Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir
Alphabirds
Should We Go Extinct? by Todd May
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76 - How screenwriters find their voice (Encore) Jul 09, 2024

John and Craig welcome Aline Brosh McKenna to look at what writers mean by a “voice,” and how it develops.

Some screenwriters’ voice develops long before their craft, leading people to label them as “promising” even though the scripts themselves are a mess. Other writers get all the technical stuff right from the start, but have a hard time finding something distinctive about how they write.

From there, we segue into one of the most contentious Three Page Challenges we’ve ever done, with wildly split opinions.

In our bonus segment for premium members, John the Eagle Scout gives Drew practical advice for wilderness camping in 2024.

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