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281. Otto von Busch Jan 21, 2026

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Otto von Busch is a designer and professor of Integrated Design at Parsons School of Design. He has a background in arts, craft, design, and theory and his work focuses on how making practices can mobilize community and social activism. His new book, The Design Comedy, repackages Dante’s to explore the broken promises of design, the problems in academia, and the role of design theory. In this conversation, Jarrett and Otto talk about the book and its analysis of the state of design, the value of making in design education, and the relationship between design practice and design theory. Links from this episode are available at www.scratchingthesurface.fm/281-otto-von-busch — Help support the show by joining our Substack: surfacepodcast.substack.com

280. Sam Valenti Jan 07, 2026

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Sam Valenti IV is the founder of Ghostly International, a music label and art company he founded in 1999 and known for experimental electronic artists like Matthew Dear, Tycho, and Galcher Lustwerk. On the occasion of Ghostly’s 25th anniversary, they just released We’ll Never Stop Living This Way: A Ghostly International Catalogue, a large coffee-table book celebrating the label’s artists, designers, and ethos. In this conversation, Jarrett and Sam talk about the relationship between music and design, the record label as a cultural brand, and the role of the curator in the age of the algorithm. Links from this episode are available at www.scratchingthesurface.fm/280-sam-valenti — Help support the show by joining our Substack: surfacepodcast.substack.com

279. Thomas Weaver Dec 10, 2025

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Thomas Weaver is an architectural writer, teacher, critic, and editor. He is a commissioning editor at Park Books where he cofounded and edits the Gumshoe series, and has teaching appoints at Princeton University and Accademia di architettura. He was previously the Senior Acquisitions Editor for Art and Architecture at MIT Press, and managing editor at the Architectural Association where he editied the school’s journal, AA Files, as well as their other publications and books. In this conversation, Jarrett and Thomas talk about the his experiments with form, pushing the limits of academic writing, and the role of the editor in architecture discourse. Links from this episode are available at www.scratchingthesurface.fm/279-thomas-weaver — Help support the show by joining our Substack: surfacepodcast.substack.com

278. Carlo Ratti Nov 26, 2025

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Carlo Ratti is an architect, engineer, author, and academic. He is the curator of the 2025 Venice Biennale of Architecture, where he developed the theme Intelligens: Natural, Artificial, Collective. He runs the Senseable City Lab at MIT and is the author of multiple books including Atlas of the Senseable City, The City of Tomorrow, and Open Source Architecture. In this conversation, Jarrett and Carlo reflect on this year’s biennale, how architecture can act as a connector of multiple intelligences, and how the senseable city is different than the smart city. Links from this episode are available at www.scratchingthesurface.fm/278-carlo-ratti — Help support the show by joining our Substack: surfacepodcast.substack.com

277. Maggie Gram Nov 12, 2025

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Maggie Gram is a writer, cultural historian, and designer. She’s the author of the new book, The Invention of Design, and her writing as appeared in n+1 and The New York Times. She also leads an experience design team at Google in New York. In this conversation, Jarrett and Maggie talk about how she wrote her book, the evolution of how we talk about design, design’s relationship to power, and why we need new ways to think about what design can do today. Links from this episode are available at www.scratchingthesurface.fm/277-maggie-gram. — Help support the show by joining our Substack: surfacepodcast.substack.com

276. Amale Andraos & Dan Wood Oct 29, 2025

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Amale Andraos and Dan Wood are the founders of WORKac, an architecture office working across a range of scales with an emphasis on public, cultural, or civic projects all around the world. Amale is also professor at Columbia GSAPP, where she also served as dean from 2014-2021, and Dan has taught most recently at Columbia and Yale. They’ve also published a series of books including 49 Cities, Above the Pavement, the Farm, We’ll Get There When We Cross That Bridge, and their new monograph, Buildings for People and Plants. In this conversation, Amale and Dan talk with Jarrett about the threads that connect their body of work, the role of publishing in the studio, and why they think of their work as “pop”. Links from this episode are available at www.scratchingthesurface.fm/276-amale-andraos-dan-wood. — Help support the show by joining our Substack: surfacepodcast.substack.com

275. David Godshall & Kasey Toomey Oct 15, 2025

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David Godshall and Kasey Toomey are partners at Terremoto, a landscape architecture design studio based in Los Angeles and the Bay Area. Founded by Godshall and Alain Peauroi, Terremoto creates gardens that blend material exploration and conceptual ideas that seek to do right by the land while also acknowledging the laborer, the wildlife, and Indigenous communities on whose land they now live and work. In this conversation, Jarrett talks with David and Kasey about the philosophy of garden design, garden as a verb, their work in labor activism, and why garden design might be a model for the future of design practice. Links from this episode are available at www.scratchingthesurface.fm/275-david-godshall-kasey-toomey. — Help support the show by joining our Substack: surfacepodcast.substack.com

274. Anthony Dunne and Fiona Raby Sep 30, 2025

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Anthony Dunne and Fiona Raby use design as a medium to interrogate our relationship to reality. They are the authors of multiple books, including 2013’s Speculative Everything and 2025’s Not Here, Not Now. Until recently, they were professors of Design and Social Inquiry at The New School where they ran the Design Realities Lab. In this conversation, Jarrett talks with Dunne and Raby about how their new book expands upon and responds to their previous work, how their practice has evolved over the last ten years, and why they don’t like calling themselves speculative designers. Links from this episode are available at www.scratchingthesurface.fm/274-anthony-dunne-fiona-raby — Help support the show by joining our Substack: surfacepodcast.substack.com

273. Nick Foster Sep 17, 2025

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Nick Foster is a futures designer and author of the new book Could Should Might Don’t: How We Think About The Future. Trained as an industrial designer, he has spent his career exploring the future for a range of companies, most recently as the Head of Design at Google X, where he led a team of designers, researchers, and prototypers in the company’s “moonshot factory.” In this conversation, Jarrett and Nick talk about where our images of the future come from, design’s role in thinking about the future, and why we need to find new ways to talk about the futures we want. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm/273-nick-foster — Join our Substack for more content each month and to help support the show! surfacepodcast.substack.com

272. Joel Towers Sep 03, 2025

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Joel Towers is the president of The New School in New York City. Trained as an architect, President Towers joined the school in 2004, first as a faculty member and director of Sustainable Design and Urban Ecology and most recently as executive dean of Parsons School of Design from 2009 to 2019. In this conversation, Jarrett and President Towers talk about the state of higher education, the shifting nature of design education, and how studying architecture in the late eighties shaped the work he does today. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm/272-joel-towers — Join our Substack for more content each month and to help support the show! surfacepodcast.substack.com

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