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7/15/22 Patrick MacFarlane on Adrian Zenz and the 'Xinjiang Police Files' Jul 17, 2022

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This week on Antiwar Radio, Scott is joined by Patrick MacFarlane to discuss the narrative that China is conducting a genocide against the Uyghurs of Xinjiang, its westernmost region. The narrative has become prominent over the past few years, especially with anti-China hawks. But MacFarlane shows that most of the “evidence” of genocide can be traced back to a German anthropologist named Adrian Zenz. Scott and MacFarlane dig into some of the obvious problems with Zenz’s work and put the U.S. Government’s connection to the Uyghurs in context.

Discussed on the show:

“Credibility and the ‘Xinjiang Police Files’” (Libertarian Institute)
“The Red Line and the Rat Line” (London Review of Books)

Patrick MacFarlane is the Justin Raimondo Fellow at the Libertarian Institute where he advocates a noninterventionist foreign policy. He is a Wisconsin attorney in private practice. His work has appeared on antiwar.com and Zerohedge. Follow him on Twitter @liberty_weekly

This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip;Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio.

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7/8/22 Kyle Anzalone on Recent Developments in Ukraine Jul 11, 2022

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This week on Antiwar Radio, Kyle Anzalone of the Libertarian Institute and Antiwar.com joins Scott to discuss the status of the war in Ukraine. Anzalone explains how fighting has evolved in the Donbas region of Eastern Ukraine. He then moves down to Kherson in southern Ukraine as well as Snake Island off of the country’s southwest coast. They touch on the absurd amount of weapons and money Western governments have been sending to Ukraine as well as the accuracy of reported body counts. Finally, they talk about the lack of any real prospect for peace, and how the war will likely evolve as it grinds on.

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7/8/22 John Kiriakou on Vault 7, Robert Grenier and Bin Laden’s Escape at Tora Bora Jul 10, 2022

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Scott is joined by CIA officer turned whistleblower turned political commentator John Kiriakou to discuss the trial of Joshua Schulte, the man accused of leaking the CIA’s Vault 7 program to Wikileaks. Schulte denies being involved in the leak. His next trial is fast approaching. Kiriakou explains how the Justice Department also accused Schulte of having child pornography on his computer, although they walked it back when the judge requested they actually press charges. Scott and Kiriakou discuss past cases where the U.S. government weaponized false allegations of sexual crimes against whistleblowers. They then get into a discussion about former CIA officer Robert Grenier who Kiriakou worked with. He talks about their falling out. And any discussion of Robert Grenier is inevitably going to include Bin Laden’s escape into Pakistan at Tora Bora in December of 2001. Scott goes through some of the best books on the topic and Kiriakou gives his account of that critical time period from inside the Agency.

Discussed on the show:

“A Whistleblower’s Agony” (Scheer Post)
Kiriakou’s books
@innercitypress on Twitter
Robert Grenier’s post-Jan 6th interview on NPR
88 Days to Kandahar by Robert Grenier
Jawbreaker by Gary Berntsen
Kill Bin Laden by Dalton Fury/Thomas Greer
“This Air Force commando called in 688,000 pounds of bombs in one battle” (Task & Purpose)
Bush at War by Bob Woodward

John Kiriakou is a former CIA officer and author of The Convenient Terrorist: Two Whistleblowers’ Stories of Torture, Terror, Secret Wars, and CIA Lies and Doing Time Like A Spy. He is the host of Loud and Clear on Sputnik Radio. Follow him on Twitter @JohnKiriakou.

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6/23/22 Should the U.S. Be Sending Weapons to Ukraine? Scott Horton vs. Cathy Young at the Soho Forum Jul 07, 2022

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Should the U.S. give full military and political support to Ukraine in its war with Russia, short of sending troops?

That was the subject of a Soho Forum debate held on Thursday, June 23, at the Porcupine Freedom Festival, or PorcFest, in Lancaster, New Hampshire.

Cathy Young, a writer at the Bulwark and a contributing editor at Reason, is a Moscow-native who migrated to the U.S. as a teenager, argued that the U.S. government is correct to impose sanctions on Russia and to send military and economic support to Ukraine.

Scott Horton, who's the host of Antiwar Radio, argued that U.S. backing of NATO provoked the Russian invasion and that imposing sanctions and sending weapons has brought more death and destruction.

He says the only role for the Americans is to call for an immediate ceasefire followed by negotiations.

The debate was moderated by Soho Forum Director Gene Epstein.

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7/1/22 Alan MacLeod on the Alarming Number of Ex-FBI Agents Working at Twitter Jul 05, 2022

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Scott talks with Alan MacLeod about the reporting he’s done on the surprising number of former FBI agents who have joined the content moderation department at Twitter. He runs through some specific examples of people who have spent their careers working for the Bureau before pivoting to join the tech company. He also talks about the research he’s done into Facebook, Google, TikTok and Reddit.

Discussed on the show:

“The Federal Bureau of Tweets: Twitter is Hiring an Alarming Number of FBI Agents” (Mintpress News)

Alan MacLeod is Senior Staff Writer for MintPress News. After completing his PhD in 2017 he published two books: Bad News From Venezuela: Twenty Years of Fake News and Misreporting and Propaganda in the Information Age: Still Manufacturing Consent, as well as a number of academic articles. Follow him on Twitter @AlanRMacLeod.

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7/1/22 Diego Rivera on Defend the Guard and the Art of Effective Activism Jul 04, 2022

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Scott interviews Diego Rivera, a veteran and activist, to talk about Defend the Guard legislation. The bill, which has been introduced in nearly all the State Legislatures, aims to block the deployment of National Guard troops to foreign combat operations unless Congress actually declares war. Rivera details the new initiative Bring Our Troops Home, the group behind Defend the Guard, is rolling out to train people in the art of effective political activism. Scott and Rivera discuss how seemingly powerless groups with no access can effectively bring about political change.

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Diego Rivera is an Iraq War veteran and activist. Follow him on Twitter @Diego4Liberty.

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7/1/22 Shireen Al-Adeimi: The Ceasefire in Yemen is Not Enough Jul 03, 2022

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Scott is joined by Shireen Al-Adeimi to discuss the war in Yemen. They talk about the War Powers Resolution in Congress and the Ramadan ceasefire, which is holding for now. Al-Adeimi points out that the Saudis dropping their support for former President Hadi was not actually a step towards peace. Instead, they turned to a “council” made up of rival warlords who appear destined to use violence in their disputes rather than diplomacy. But, she points out, the Saudis cannot exert any real control over Yemen without full military support from the United States. That defines a clear path for bringing this bloody period of foreign intervention in Yemen to an end.

Discussed on the show:

“Truce or Not, Congress Must Urgently Bring About a Real End to the War on Yemen” (In These Times)
833-STOPWAR
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Shireen Al-Adeimi is an assistant professor of Education at Michigan State. She conducts research on language and literacy and writes frequently about Yemen. Follow her on Twitter @shireen818.

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6/30/22 Hassan El-Tayyab on the Tripartisan Campaign to End the War in Yemen Jun 30, 2022

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Hassan El-Tayyab is back to provide an update on our effort to end U.S. support for the Saudi war in Yemen. There is currently a War Powers Resolution in the House of Representatives with a Senate version on the way. Scott points out that Biden is headed to Saudi Arabia soon to ask Crown Prince bin Salman for oil. We need to do everything we can to force U.S. military support off the negotiating table before he even lands in Riyadh. Call 833-STOPWAR right now to get connected with your representative's office, and tell them to support this resolution. If you’re not sure what to say, you can follow the script linked below.

Discussed on the show:

“Why Bombs Made in America Have Been Killing Civilians in Yemen” (New York Times)
1-833-STOP-WAR
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Hassan El-Tayyab is a musician and peace activist, who works as the lead lobbyist on Middle East policy for the Friends Committee on National Legislation.

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6/27/22 Dan Steinbock: How Hawkish Democrats Make Money Pushing War Jun 30, 2022

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Scott is joined by Dan Steinbock to discuss an article he wrote about the network of Democratic organizations running American foreign policy. Steinbock has dug deep into the Center for a New American Security (CNAS) and WestExec Advisors, two organizations that have allowed top foreign policy officials to make money cycling between government, think tank and advisory roles. Steinbock also takes a step back and examines how these organizations are connected to weapons companies, Wall Street and technology firms.

Discussed on the show:

“The Centre of International Insecurity” (World Financial Review)
“Why Bombs Made in America Have Been Killing Civilians in Yemen” (New York Times)

Dr. Dan Steinbock is an internationally recognized strategist of the multipolar world and the founder of Difference Group. He has served at the India, China and America Institute (USA), Shanghai Institutes for International Studies (China) and the EU Center (Singapore). For more, see DifferenceGroup.net

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6/27/22 Dave Decamp on Ukraine, NATO and Antiwar.com Jun 28, 2022

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Scott interviews Antiwar.com News Editor Dave Decamp about the recent developments in Eastern Europe. First, they examine Lithuania closing the easement into Russia’s Kaliningrad territory. The move is a dramatic escalation that Scott and Decamp say points to the dangers of war guarantees. Next, they turn to the recent report in the New York Times about the CIA’s presence on the ground in Ukraine. Decamp echoes the Daniel McAdams argument that, by talking with the Times, CIA officials are likely attempting to pressure policymakers into changing Langley’s role in the war. They then touch on the latest developments in Finland and Sweden’s bid to join NATO. Lastly, they discuss the great work being done at Antiwar.com and how you can help support what Scott calls “the most important project on the internet”.

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