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    School of War – Nebulous Media

    In School of War, CBS News National Security Analyst and Free Press columnist Aaron MacLean sits down with secretaries of state, top military historians, war planners, and key political decision-makers to help understand the lessons of war.

    Tune in as School of War takes you to the front lines.

    Aaron MacLean is a former senior fellow at Hudson Institute. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps.

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    Ep 177: Christopher Kolakowski on Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr. Feb 14, 2025
    Show notes

    Christopher Kolakowski, director of the Wisconsin Veterans Museumand editor of Tenth Army Commander: The World War II Diary of Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr., joins the show to discuss the most senior U.S. officer killed by enemy action in WWII, Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr.

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    • 01:44 Introduction

    • 02:15 In the shadows

    • 03:53 Fathers and sons

    • 06:28 Childhood

    • 09:30 West Point Commandant of Cadets

    • 16:03 Alaska ’41

    • 20:18 The Japanese threat

    • 24:20 10th Army

    • 29:03 Notes for an unwritten memoir

    • 31:02 Operation Causeway

    • 35:47 Okinawa

    • 41:52 Attrition

    • 43:50 Another Anzio?

    • 50:57 Homeward bound


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    Ep 176: David Betz on Modern Fortification Feb 11, 2025
    Show notes

    David Betz, Professor of War in the Modern World at King’s College Londonand author of The Guarded Age: Fortification in the Twenty-First Century, joins the show to discuss how fortification is alive, well, and everywhere.

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    • 01:22 Introduction

    • 01:53 A default condition

    • 13:20 Why is that there?

    • 22:13 Alexandrian foundations

    • 28:50 Security and mobility

    • 39:53 The pendulum swings

    • 48:54 Intrigue


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    Ep 175: Mick Ryan on War & Fiction Feb 07, 2025
    Show notes

    Mick Ryan, a retired major general in the Australian Army and author of War Transformed: The Future of Twenty-First-Century Great Power Competition and Conflict, joins the show to discuss future-war fiction and the possible futures of current wars.

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    • 01:23 Introduction

    • 02:10 Tom Clancy

    • 05:40 Accessibility

    • 07:14 The Battle of Dorking

    • 09:57 White Sun War

    • 13:39 Diplomatic failures

    • 15:40 Friction

    • 18:50 Israel transformed

    • 23:00 Existential threats

    • 25:25 Ukraine

    • 32:31 Pressuring Putin

    • 35:01 Taiwan and Japan


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    Ep 174: Hal Brands on the Long Struggle for Eurasia Feb 04, 2025
    Show notes

    Hal Brands, Henry A. Kissinger Distinguished Professor of Global Affairs at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and author of The Eurasian Century: Hot Wars, Cold Wars, and the Making of the Modern World, joins the show to discuss the continued relevance of geopolitics.

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    • 01:29 Introduction

    • 01:54 Twentieth century

    • 03:29 Advent of geopolitical theory

    • 07:08 Land versus sea

    • 13:09 Authoritarianism

    • 17:40 Struggle for power

    • 20:30 Burdens of defense

    • 23:25 Eurasia

    • 27:50 Different politics

    • 36:09 “…a kind of American realism”


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    Ep 173: Tom Karako on America’s Iron Dome Jan 31, 2025
    Show notes

    Tom Karako, Senior Fellow and Director of the Missile Defense Project at CSIS, joins the show to discuss what President Trump’s executive order on missile defense portends.

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    • 01:15 Introduction

    • 02:08 Dawn of missile defense

    • 05:50 Ups and downs

    • 10:40 Arguments against

    • 14:50 Capabilities

    • 18:45 A layered defense

    • 22:20 Cost

    • 26:42 Tried and tested

    • 28:21 A “Pearl Harbor” Pearl Harbor


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    Ep 172: Eric Chewning and Tom Moore on the Warship Production Crisis Jan 28, 2025
    Show notes

    Eric Chewning and Thomas Moore of HII join the show to discuss America’s military shipbuilding challenges, and their potential solutions.

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    • 01:32 Introduction

    • 01:55 Origins

    • 07:08 An eroded defense industrial base

    • 10:20 Shipbuilding in 2025

    • 17:11 Deindustrialization

    • 21:46 Learning curves

    • 27:00 Contract economics

    • 32:26 Japan and South Korea

    • 37:39 Thinking about the whole problem

    • 39:03 Manned and unmanned

    • 42:25 Force protection

    • 45:06 Soft kills and hard kills


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    Ep 171: I Am André: German Jew, French Resistance Fighter, British Spy Jan 24, 2025
    Show notes

    Diana Mara Henry and Gabe Scheinmann join the show to discuss the new book I Am André: German Jew, French Resistance Fighter, British Spy, which charts the astonishing, brave, and tragic World War II career of ‘André’ Joseph Scheinmann.

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    • 01:50 Introduction

    • 03:01 The story of a fighter

    • 09:26 Born in Munich

    • 11:87 Citizen without a country

    • 17:08 Liaison to the High Command

    • 21:46 MI6

    • 25:20 Spycraft

    • 30:27 London and capture

    • 36:31 Interrogation

    • 42:52 Max and Regina

    • 46:40 Natzweiler

    • 52:29 Dachau

    • 55:30 America

    • 01:01:17 “Jews as fighters”


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    Ep 170: Evan Mawdsley on WW2 in the Central Pacific Jan 21, 2025
    Show notes

    Evan Mawdsley, Honorary Professorial Research Fellow at the University of Glasgow and author of Supremacy at Sea: Task Force 58 and the Central Pacific Victory, joins the show to discuss the successful 1944 U.S. naval campaign through the Central Pacific in World War II.

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    • 01:36 Introduction

    • 02:27 The Central Pacific

    • 11:15 Carrier air power

    • 14:31 Embracing the task force

    • 20:00 Replenishment at sea

    • 24:28 A campaign for airbases

    • 27:56 Limiting loss

    • 33:38 Spruance & Mitscher

    • 38:36 Japanese defense doctrine

    • 45:58 Parallels today


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    Ep 169: Dmitry Filipoff on Naval Warfare in 2025 Jan 14, 2025
    Show notes

    Dmitry Filipoff, associate research analyst at the Center for Navy Analyses, joins the show to discuss the U.S. Navy surface component and the grave challenges it faces.

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    • 01:19 Introduction

    • 02:09 Lessons from the Red Sea

    • 06:35 Friendly fire

    • 10:55 Depletion

    • 13:45 2027

    • 18:07 How do fleets fight?

    • 21:47 Scope and scale

    • 24:57 “Catastrophic destruction”

    • 29:00 The first few hours

    • 34:30 Scripted exercises

    • 37:15 Managing the chaos

    • 41:34 Failing constructively


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    Ep 168: Nadège Rolland on China’s Vision of Strategic Space Jan 07, 2025
    Show notes

    Nadège Rolland, Distinguished Fellow, China Studies, at the National Bureau of Asian Research and author of Mapping China's Strategic Space, joins the show to discuss how to better understand the geopolitical premises of China’s strategic elites.

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    • 01:36 Introduction

    • 02:04 Strategic space

    • 05:05 Mao’s strategic vision

    • 11:12 Origin points

    • 17:10 Geopolitical dimensions

    • 20:25 Finding answers

    • 26:35 Encirclement

    • 33:55 Core interests

    • 38:56 China’s end goal

    • 45:37 Multilateralism

    • 49:04 Risk and overextension


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