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    School for School Counselors Podcast

    Ready to cut through the noise and get to the heart of what it really means to be a school counselor today? Welcome to The School for School Counselors Podcast! Let’s be honest: this job is rewarding, but it’s also one of the toughest, most misunderstood roles out there. That’s why I’m here, offering real talk and evidence-based insights about the everyday highs and lows of the work we love.

    Think of this podcast as your go-to conversation with a trusted friend who just gets it. I’m here to deliver honest insights, share some laughs, and get real about the challenges that come with being a school counselor. 

    Feeling overwhelmed? Frustrated? Eager to make a significant impact? I’m here to provide practical advice, smart strategies, and plenty of support.

    Each week, we’ll tackle topics ranging from building a strong counseling program to effectively using data—and we won’t shy away from addressing the tough issues. If you’re ready to stop chasing impossible standards and want to connect with others who truly understand the complexities of your role, you’re in the right place.

    So find a quiet spot, get comfortable, and get ready to feel more confident and supported than you’ve ever felt before. 

    For more resources and to stay connected, visit schoolforschoolcounselors.com.

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    School Counselors Deserve Better! The Advocacy Problem No One Admits Feb 03, 2025
    Show notes

    *Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind today to become the school counselor you were meant to be.*


    Happy National School Counseling Week! Or maybe not?

    There’s a growing divide in how school counselors feel about this week—some dive in with enthusiasm, while others don't want to be bothered. And honestly, after what I’ve been seeing lately, I get it.

    In this episode, I talk through the uncomfortable truths about school counseling advocacy: what’s missing, why it matters, and how we’ve been misled about who’s actually fighting for us. (Spoiler: If you think your national organization has your back, you might want to think again.)

    I also break down concerning new legislation across the country, exposing the lack of organized advocacy in our profession, and sharing why our current efforts just aren’t cutting it. But here’s the thing—we’re not powerless. There’s a better way to advocate, and it starts with YOU.

    If you’re tired of the same old conferences and feel-good slogans while school counseling falls apart behind the scenes, this episode is for you.


    00:00 Mixed Reactions to National School Counseling Week

    01:23 Facebook Group Insights

    02:49 Legislative Concerns and ASCA's Role

    04:30 Critique of ASCA and Advocacy Issues

    14:30 State Organizations and Legislative Challenges

    21:46 Call to Action and Positive Notes

    22:32 Listener Submissions: Why We Love School Counseling


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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group
    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind
    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!
    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    Mastering Caseloads in School Counseling Jan 27, 2025
    Show notes

    *Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind today to become the school counselor you were meant to be.*
    *Leave a voicemail here for a chance to be featured in an upcoming podcast episode!*
    In this episode of the School for School Counselors podcast, host Steph Johnson discusses managing school counseling caseloads efficiently. Using an iconic conveyer belt tv scene as an analogy, she highlights the overwhelmed feeling counselors often experience and the need to triage student needs effectively.
    Johnson shares her method for tracking her student interactions, stressing the importance of developing sustainable habits. She references James Clear's "Atomic Habits" to emphasize the significance of cues, cravings, responses, and rewards in creating lasting habits.
    Additionally, she touches on upcoming events like the listener feature opportunity and the upcoming 'Your Super Power Driven Program' masterclass on February 9th.
    Join her in improving your counseling practice and ensuring no student falls through the cracks.

    00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview

    01:03 The Candy Factory Analogy

    02:54 Challenges of Managing Caseloads

    04:16 Strategies for Tracking Caseloads

    14:05 Developing Effective Habits

    22:22 Upcoming Events and Opportunities
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group
    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind
    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!
    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    A Realistic Approach to National School Counseling Week Jan 20, 2025
    Show notes

    *Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind today to become the school counselor you were meant to be.*
    In this episode, Steph Johnson, a full-time school counselor, talks through National School Counseling Week, sharing her thoughts on its purpose and the many mixed emotions it stirs among school counselors.
    Steph addresses various reactions from excitement to frustration and offers simple strategies for observing the week on campus.
    She highlights the importance of effective advocacy, explains why internal support and relationship-building are crucial, and emphasizes the value of recognizing and validating counselors' efforts.
    Additionally, Steph provides insights into the School for School Counselors Mastermind and encourages listeners to share their voices for an upcoming podcast episode.

    00:00 Introduction and Purpose of National School Counseling Week

    03:55 Different Reactions to National School Counseling Week

    08:03 Challenges in Advocacy and Support

    11:57 Effective Advocacy From the Inside Out

    22:18 Low-Stress Ways to Observe National School Counseling Week


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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group
    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind
    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!
    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    Stop Using AI Like This: What Every Counselor Should Know Jan 13, 2025
    Show notes

    *Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind today to become the school counselor you were meant to be.*
    In this episode, Steph Johnson continues exploring how artificial intelligence is influencing school counseling. She unpacks the risks of depending too much on AI-generated tools and stresses the need for strong professional judgment to evaluate the quality and relevance of resources. Steph also dives into the ethical challenges posed by AI- including protecting student privacy- and underscores the irreplaceable value of authentic, human connection in counseling. This conversation is a call to action for school counselors to reflect on their practices, rekindle their passion for their craft, and deepen their impact on students.

    Episode Highlights:

    • 00:00 Feeling Undervalued on Campus
    • 00:25 Recap of AI in School Counseling (Previous Episode)
    • 01:10 Professional Fluency: The Key to Credibility
    • 04:23 Perceptions of School Counseling Work
    • 07:05 The SEL Lesson Debate
    • 13:00 Risks of AI-Generated Resources
    • 24:28 Ethical Concerns: AI and Student Privacy
    • 30:06 A Call to Reignite Your Passion


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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group
    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind
    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!
    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    A.I. and School Counseling Jan 06, 2025
    Show notes

    *Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind today to become the school counselor you were meant to be.*
    In this episode of the School for School Counselors podcast, host Steph Johnson addresses the growing trend of integrating artificial intelligence (AI) in school counseling. Steph shares her concerns about the premature adoption of AI tools and their potential to undermine the core values and techniques of effective counseling. She emphasizes the importance of human connection, evidence-based techniques, and professional fluency over quick AI-generated solutions. This episode delves into the ethical implications, the dangers of AI biases, and the need for critical thinking before relying on AI-generated resources, encouraging school counselors to remain cautious and informed as they navigate this evolving technology.

    00:00 Introduction to AI in School Counseling

    01:31 The AI Hype and School Counseling

    02:59 Concerns About AI in Counseling

    04:51 Ethical Considerations and Professional Fluency

    07:44 Personal Use and Limitations of AI

    15:45 AI's Hallucinations and Biases

    20:10 Next Steps
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group
    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind
    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!
    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    What I'm Using Most in My School Counseling Office These Days Dec 30, 2024
    Show notes

    *Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind today to become the school counselor you were meant to be.*
    This episode surveys some of the things I'm using most in my school counseling office right now to promote connection, self-awareness, and emotional well-being.
    00:00 Welcome Back!

    00:29 Holiday Reflections and New Year Goals

    02:49 Preparing for the Spring Semester

    05:15 Favorite Counseling Office Supplies

    17:56 Join the Free Community

    19:10 Final Encouragement
    Resources:
    Greatness Cards
    Conscious Discipline Feelings Buddies
    All Other Materials (in my Amazon Storefront)
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group
    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind
    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!
    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    One Big Reason Behavior Charts Fail (And What You Can Do Instead) Dec 16, 2024
    Show notes

    *Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind today to become the school counselor you were meant to be.*
    Have you ever worked with a student labeled as “ODD” and felt like nothing you tried was working? In this episode, I’m revisiting one of our most talked-about topics: oppositional defiant behaviors in schools. But instead of focusing on the label, we’re reframing the conversation to explore what’s really happening beneath the surface.

    I’ll walk you through why traditional strategies like behavior charts often fail these students, and more importantly, how you can build stronger connections and create real change.
    This episode is packed with practical strategies, fresh perspectives, and a little dose of encouragement to keep going.

    Let’s rethink how we approach oppositional behaviors—and discover better ways to help our students thrive!
    00:00 Welcome and Holiday Hustle

    03:45 Introduction to Oppositional Defiant Disorder

    08:55 Understanding and Addressing ODD

    18:29 Building Relationships and Support

    28:02 Final Thoughts and Encouragement
    **********************************


    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group
    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind
    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!
    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    Prep NOW for a Stress-Less Spring Semester Dec 09, 2024
    Show notes

    *Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind today for the techniques, support, and confidence you need to handle whatever this semester throws your way.*
    In this episode of the School for School Counselors podcast, host Steph Johnson addresses the common issue of school counselors feeling unprepared, whether broadly from grad school or specifically day-to-day. She offers actionable tips to prepare for the new semester, emphasizing the importance of decluttering both physical and digital spaces, setting up efficient systems, and planning for self-care. Steph also highlights the significance of tracking program data and creating templates for repetitive tasks to save time. Finally, she encourages a simple return plan and shares the benefits of the School for School Counselors Mastermind community.

    00:00 Introduction: The Challenge of Feeling Unprepared

    01:02 Welcome to the School for School Counselors Podcast

    01:44 Preparing for the New Semester: Decluttering

    05:43 Digital Organization: Reducing Cognitive Load

    06:54 Setting Up Systems for Success

    12:02 Self-Care Plans for the Spring Semester

    14:40 Creating a Simple Return Plan

    17:46 Final Thoughts and Encouragement
    **********************************


    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group
    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind
    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!
    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!


    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    A Super-Simple Challenge to COMPLETELY Change Your Year Dec 02, 2024
    Show notes

    ⭐️ Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind to finally feel supported in your career
    In this episode of the School for School Counselors podcast, host Steph Johnson addresses the end-of-semester doubts many counselors feel about their impact. She emphasizes that the true value of school counseling lies in small, often unnoticed moments that ripple through students' lives. Steph shares personal experiences, the science of gratitude, and introduces 'gratitude expansion' to help counselors find deeper meaning and resilience in their work. This insightful discussion is meant to empower and validate counselors, especially during stressful times of the academic year.

    00:00 Facing the End of the Semester

    01:10 The Power of Small Moments

    02:40 Listener Review and Community Support

    04:03 A Story of Impact and Reflection

    06:10 The Science and Practice of Gratitude

    10:43 Implementing Gratitude in Your Daily Routine

    12:54 Encouragement and Conclusion
    References/For Further Reading:
    Algoe, S. B. (2012). Find, remind, and bind: The functions of gratitude in everyday relationships. Social and Personality Psychology Compass, 6(6), 455-469. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1751-9004.2012.00439.x
    Amabile, T. M., & Kramer, S. J. (2011). The progress principle: Using small wins to ignite joy, engagement, and creativity at work. Boston, MA: Harvard Business Review Press. https://hbr.org/2011/05/the-power-of-small-wins
    Baumeister, R. F., Bratslavsky, E., Finkenauer, C., & Vohs, K. D. (2001). Bad is stronger than good. Review of General Psychology, 5(4), 323-370. https://doi.org/10.1037/1089-2680.5.4.323
    Emmons, R. A., & McCullough, M. E. (2003). Counting blessings versus burdens: An experimental investigation of gratitude and subjective well-being in daily life. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 84(2), 377-389. https://doi.org/10.1037/0022-3514.84.2.377
    **********************************


    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group
    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind
    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!
    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!


    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    Four-Tenths of One Percent Means You're NOT Failing Nov 25, 2024
    Show notes

    ⭐️ Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind to finally feel supported in your career
    In this episode of the School for School Counselors podcast, host Steph Johnson discusses the unrealistic expectations set by comprehensive school counseling programs and offers practical advice on how to find peace and redefine success in the field.
    By focusing on what is within their control, embracing small victories, and finding joy in their daily tasks, school counselors can better manage the pressures of their role.

    00:00 Introduction: The Struggles of School Counselors

    00:34 Welcome Back: Revisiting a Popular Episode

    00:52 The Holiday Pressure and Unrealistic Expectations

    04:49 Making Peace with a Non-Comprehensive Program

    09:15 The Circle of Control: Focusing on What You Can Change

    13:05 The Reality of Comprehensive Programs

    19:06 RAMP Status: Putting Things in Perspective

    27:16 Final Thoughts
    **********************************


    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group
    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind
    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!
    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



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