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    School for School Counselors Podcast

    Ready to cut through the noise and get to the heart of what it really means to be a school counselor today? Welcome to The School for School Counselors Podcast! Let’s be honest: this job is rewarding, but it’s also one of the toughest, most misunderstood roles out there. That’s why I’m here, offering real talk and evidence-based insights about the everyday highs and lows of the work we love.

    Think of this podcast as your go-to conversation with a trusted friend who just gets it. I’m here to deliver honest insights, share some laughs, and get real about the challenges that come with being a school counselor. 

    Feeling overwhelmed? Frustrated? Eager to make a significant impact? I’m here to provide practical advice, smart strategies, and plenty of support.

    Each week, we’ll tackle topics ranging from building a strong counseling program to effectively using data—and we won’t shy away from addressing the tough issues. If you’re ready to stop chasing impossible standards and want to connect with others who truly understand the complexities of your role, you’re in the right place.

    So find a quiet spot, get comfortable, and get ready to feel more confident and supported than you’ve ever felt before. 

    For more resources and to stay connected, visit schoolforschoolcounselors.com.

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    Are You a Reactive or Responsive School Counselor? Dec 03, 2023
    Show notes

    Do you feel like a first responder, constantly reacting issues as they arise, or do you feel like you have the time and space to proactively plan for student wellness? This episode is a deep dive into the realities of reactive versus responsive school counseling. You'll be able to reflect on your daily tasks and learn why your situation, whether it's putting out fires or strategically planning, is more about your school environment than your personal capabilities, and how you can begin modifying your approaches bit by bit to regain a sense of purpose and clarity in your work.
    No matter your circumstances, it's possible to identify small but powerful changes that can be made in your counseling program to help you transition from reactive to responsive approaches without neglecting your moment-to-moment responsibilities. It's time to reduce stress and begin building a future-thinking school counseling program: this episode will tell you how.
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    80-20 School Counseling Mandates: Not Quite the "Win" We Expected Nov 26, 2023
    Show notes

    Are you grappling with 80-20 expectations? Do you feel the pressure of tracking every minute of your day while managing a huge caseload?
    In theory, the idea of 80-20 is good, where 80% of counseling services directly impact students, with the remaining 20% of efforts supporting these services. However, a recent 80-20 mandate shows the complexities of its real-world implementation, the hurdles encountered by counselors, and the unsettling realities that have emerged.
    This episode further discusses the expectation for school counselors to log their time usage, leading to concerns about overwork and perceptions of underperformance. As part of this, we highlight the crucial role of advocacy at both state and national levels and explore the potential power of social media as a tool for raising your voice.
    Listen now to become better informed- and ready for advocacy!
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    The Cycle of Role Dysfunction in School Counseling Nov 20, 2023
    Show notes

    Are you feeling overwhelmed in your role as a school counselor, perpetually stuck in a cycle where the better your perform, the more you're given to do? You could be caught in a cycle of role dysfunction, and you're definitely not alone.
    This episode is a heartfelt deep-dive discussion about these challenges, and how to tackle the emotional labor, compassion fatigue, and general misunderstandings about the function of a school counselor head on.
    Mentioned in this episode:
    School for School Counselors Mastermind
    No-Stress Self-Care Challenge
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    The Self-Care Myth: Setting the Record Straight for School Counselors Nov 13, 2023
    Show notes

    You know that self-care is not about transforming you into an eternally cheerful person and erasing all life's challenges.
    It's high time we dismantle unrealistic expectations around self-care. In this episode's candid discussion, we delve into why self-care may sometimes feel like a burden rather than a blessing, particularly in our demanding profession.
    We also explore our own love-hate relationship with self-care and share personal insights on what truly works for us as school counselors within the context or micro- and macro-self care, molding our self-care strategies to our own personal circumstances and life stages.
    Buckle up for an honest, insightful dialogue on self-care, its realities, and its undeniable importance in our lives as school counselors.
    Mentioned in this episode:
    School for School Counselors Mastermind
    No-Stress Self-Care Challenge
    Resource:
    Jennings, P. A., Brown, J. L., Frank, J. L., Doyle, S., Oh, Y., Davis, R., Rasheed, D., DeWeese, A., DeMauro, A. A., Cham, H., & Greenberg, M. T. (2017, February 13). Impacts of the CARE for Teachers Program on Teachers’ Social and Emotional Competence and Classroom Interactions. Journal of Educational Psychology. Advance online publication.
    http://dx.doi.org/10.1037/edu0000187
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    Are Your School Counseling Approaches Really Best Practice? Oct 30, 2023
    Show notes

    Ever been swayed by a viewpoint on the Internet only to discover it's not... quite right? You're not alone! In this episode, we take a critical look at how social media algorithms can channel us into echo chambers, potentially leading us astray- especially in specialized fields like school counseling. We'll share strategies on distinguishing the good from the bad, and how to make informed decisions that truly benefit your students.
    We'll also get real about the idea of collaboration and safe spaces in school counseling. We'll unpack the difference between mere venting and productive collaboration. And we'll also share some tips on how to critically analyze information for its reliability. Remember, a school counselor is as strong as their network: we invite you to build strong relationships with colleagues, join a consultative group or even become a part of our very own School For School Counselors Mastermind. Together, we can navigate (mis)information overload and make a true difference in our students' lives.
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    Mentioned in this episode:
    School for School Counselors Mastermind
    School for School Counselors Podcast Episode: "What You're Doing Wrong With Separation Anxiety (And Why It's Not Your Fault!)"
    Resources:
    Bessi, A. (2017). On the statistical properties of viral misinformation in online social media. Physica A: Statistical Mechanics and its Applications, 469, 459-470. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.physa.2016.11.012

    Chen, X., Sin, S.J., Theng, Y. & Lee, C.S. (2015). Why do social media users share misinformation? In Proceedings of the 15th ACM/IEEE-CS Joint Conference on Digital Libraries (JCDL '15). Association for Computing Machinery, New York, NY: 111–114. https://doi.org/10.1145/2756406.2756941

    Muhammed T, S., Mathew, S.K. The disaster of misinformation: a review of research in social media. Int J Data Sci Anal 13, 271–285 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1007/s41060-022-00311-6

    Paulson, L. R., Casile, W. J., & Jones, D. (2015). Tech it out: Implementing an online peer consultation network for rural mental health professionals. Journal of Rural Mental Health, 39(3-4), 125–136. https://doi.org/10.1037/rmh0000034

    Wu, L., Morstatter, F., Carley, K.M. & Liu, H. (2019). Misinformation in social media: Definition, manipulation, and detection. SIGKDD Explor. Newsl., 21(2), 80–90. https://doi.org/10.1145/3373464.3373475

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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    From Ordinary to Awesome: Exploring the Habits of Amazing School Counselors Oct 23, 2023
    Show notes

    Can you imagine waking up to a world where every school counselor felt empowered through eight collective habits? We're exploring two of those important habits in this episode (and tell you how to access the others!) to not only give you a boost of confidence and inspiration, but to also give you a taste of our live events where we get real about the trials, tribulations, and triumphs in school counseling.
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    Mentioned in this episode:
    School for School Counselors Mastermind
    Eight Habits of Amazing School Counselors (register to grab the replay links)
    hello@schoolforschoolcounselors.com
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    What's The Most Important Thing in School Counseling? Oct 16, 2023
    Show notes

    What if the secret to success as a school counselor lies not just in your professional expertise? In this episode, I'll walk you through what I- and many experts in our field- have pegged as the Most Important Thing in school counseling.
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    Mentioned in this episode:
    School for School Counselors Mastermind
    Cholewa, B., Goodman-Scott, E., Thomas, A., & Cook, J. (2016). Teachers’ perceptions and experiences consulting with school counselors: A qualitative study. Professional School Counseling, 20(1). https://doi.org/10.5330/1096-2409-20.1.77
    Galassi, John P. & Akos, P. (2008). Strengths-based school counseling. Routledge.
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!


    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    Taming the Storm: School Counselors' Guide to October Oct 09, 2023
    Show notes

    Are you feeling the October pressure, school counselor? It's time to pause, breathe, and join us in a conversation that navigates all of October's school counseling stressors.
    We're all battling escalating behavioral issues while watching the stress levels rise on our campuses.
    But remember, heroes don't have to walk alone.
    In this candid episode, we delve into the 'hero complex', the all-too-real sources of our professional anxieties, and the unique solutions that are right in front of us.
    Love your work. Even in October. ;)
    Mentioned in this episode:
    School for School Counselors Mastermind
    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!


    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    How Do You Create a Functional and Feasible Behavior Intervention Plan? Oct 02, 2023
    Show notes

    Ever wondered how to navigate the labyrinth-like process of behavior intervention plans in a school setting? Buckle up as we unravel this intricate process - from gathering real-world data to conducting functional behavior assessments and setting crystal clear, attainable goals. Along the way, you'll gain valuable insights into the uphill task of engaging fellow educators in this journey.
    But that's not all! We venture further into the heart of the matter as we address the crucial task of deploying evidence-based interventions as we work to match the function of the behavior to the intervention, creating and utilizing a consistent plan across various settings, and closely monitoring the student's progress and revising the plan as required.
    If the word "BIP" makes you cringe, you owe it to yourself to take a listen to this episode.
    Mentioned in this episode:
    School for School Counselors Mastermind
    Additional Resources:
    Functional Behavior Assessment (FBA)- EBP Brief Packet
    Functional Behavioral Assessment: Identifying the Reasons for Problem Behavior and Developing a Behavior Plan (IRIS Center, Vanderbilt University
    PBIS World: Tiered Interventions

    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!


    Connect --> schoolforschoolcounselors.com

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



    Fine Lines and Touchy Conversations: Differentiating School Counseling and Behavior Intervention Sep 25, 2023
    Show notes

    Ever felt overwhelmed and feel like more of a behavior interventionist than a true school counselor? Are you unsure about your role in this critical area on campus?
    In this episode, we dive into the vital distinction between school counseling and behavior intervention. We talk about how as counselors, our main focus should be on prevention, guidance, and support while underlining our need to collaborate effectively with behavior intervention personnel and school psychologists.
    We also tackle the notion of establishing respect and acknowledgment for your expertise as a school counselor, as well as the much-needed time and apace to help foster a positive school environment.
    We round it all out with some suggestions and talking points for these critical advocacy conversations.
    This episode is a must-listen if you've ever struggled with defining your role in your campus's behavior intervention program.
    Mentioned in this episode:
    School for School Counselors Mastermind
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    Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.
    Hang out in our Facebook group

    Jump in, ask questions, share your ideas and become a part of the most empowering school counseling group on the planet! (Join us to see if we're right.)
    Join the School for School Counselors Mastermind

    The Mastermind is packed with all the things your grad program never taught you IN ADDITION TO unparalleled support and consultation. No more feeling alone, invisible, unappreciated, or like you just don't know what to do next. We've got you!


    Did someone share this podcast with you? Be sure to subscribe for all the new episodes!!


    Connect --> schoolforschoolcounselors.com

    This work is part of the School for School Counselors body of work developed by Steph Johnson, LPC, CSC, which centers role authority over role drift, consultative practice over fix-it culture, adult-designed systems and environments as primary drivers of student behavior, clinical judgment over compliance, and school counselor identity as leadership within complex systems.



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