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    School Business Insider

    ASBO International’s official podcast. Each week we sit down down with school business professionals and industry experts from around the world to share their stories and explore the topics that matter most to you.

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    From Theory to Practice: Operational Excellence in Public Schools Apr 23, 2024
    Show notes Summary
    Stephen Morales, Chief Executive of the Institute of School Business Leadership, discusses the implementation of operational excellence in public education. Morales shares his background in education and his mission to improve the educational experience for students, educators, and communities. The conversation explores the challenges of balancing autonomy and accountability, the role of culture and technology in operational excellence, and the need for setting clear expectations and standards. In this conversation, Stephen Morales discusses the concept of operational excellence in education and its potential benefits. He emphasizes the need for leaders to be vulnerable and open to improvement, despite the challenges they face. He discusses the role of data in assessing and implementing operational excellence, emphasizing the need for meaningful conversations and actions based on the data. Morales shares his roadmap for implementing operational excellence and identifies milestones for success. He also discusses the role of school business officials in driving operational excellence and offers advice for those interested in exploring the topic further. Finally, Morales discusses the upcoming Institute of School Business Leadership conference and its focus on networking, inspiration, and subject matter expertise.
    Takeaways

    • Operational excellence can be applied to public education to improve efficiency, innovation, and continuous improvement.
    • Balancing autonomy and accountability is a challenge in education, and finding the right level of freedom is crucial.
    • Culture plays a significant role in operational excellence, and it is important to ensure alignment and commitment throughout the organization.
    • Implementing operational excellence requires a holistic approach that includes all aspects of the organization, from teaching to ancillary services.
    • Challenges to implementing operational excellence include resistance to change and the need to recognize the potential for improvement. Leaders in education need to be vulnerable and open to improvement, despite the challenges they face.
    • The role of school business officials is central to implementing and ensuring the success of operational excellence.
    • Exploring operational excellence can lead to improved outcomes for organizations and individuals in education.


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    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    The Future of SBOs: ASBO International's Emerging Leader Program Apr 16, 2024
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    Summary

    The conversation focuses on the ASBO International Emerging Leaders Scholarship Program, which nurtures the next generation of leaders in school business management. Three scholarship recipients share their experiences and reflections on the program. They discuss their backgrounds, interest in the program, and the impact it has had on their careers. The conversation highlights the importance of mentorship, networking, and professional development. The participants also discuss the commitment required and how they balanced it with their personal and professional lives. They share their goals for the future and how the program has changed their approach to leadership and work.
    Takeaways

    • The ASBO International Emerging Leaders Scholarship Program provides valuable opportunities for growth, mentorship, and professional development for school business professionals.
    • The program helps participants build confidence, expand their networks, and gain new perspectives on the profession.
    • Balancing the program's commitments with personal and professional responsibilities can be challenging but manageable with support from colleagues and employers.
    • The program has a transformative impact on participants, inspiring them to take on leadership roles and make a positive impact in their organizations and communities.


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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    And Now...Introducing Your Newly Elected 2024 ASBO International Board Members! Apr 09, 2024
    Show notes Summary
    In this episode of School Business Insider, host John Brucato sits down with the incoming board of directors for ASBO International to discuss their backgrounds, motivations for running, and the support they received from their state organizations. They also talk about the challenges of balancing their new commitments with their day jobs and share their takeaways from the leadership forum.
    Takeaways

    • Running for ASBO International board requires support from state organizations and a strong network.
    • The incoming board members are motivated by their passion for school business and their desire to give back to the profession.
    • They aim to support smaller rural districts and help grow future leaders in the field.
    • Balancing their new commitments with their day jobs requires time management and support from their teams.
    • The leadership forum provided valuable insights on communication styles, trust, and vulnerability.
    Find out more about the ASBO International Board of Directors here!


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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    Choice and Consequence: The Complex Reality for Public Schools Apr 02, 2024
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    Summary
    In this episode, John Wilson, Chief School Financial Officer at Baldwin County Schools, discusses the topic of school choice and its implications for school business officials. He explains the different types of school choice programs, such as education savings accounts, voucher programs, tax credit scholarships, and tax credit education savings accounts. Wilson highlights the challenges faced by school districts in planning for school choice and the impact on enrollment and funding. He also raises concerns about the lack of oversight and accountability in charter schools, citing examples of fraud and mismanagement. Overall, Wilson emphasizes the need for proper guardrails and transparency in school choice programs to ensure their success. This conversation explores the topic of school choice and its potential impact on public schools, specifically in Baldwin County, Alabama. The discussion covers Governor Ivey's proposal for education savings accounts and the concerns surrounding the diversion of state revenues from public schools. The conversation also delves into the goal of having the highest paid teachers and the sustainability of funding. Additionally, the impact of school choice on credit ratings and the challenges faced by districts are examined. The conversation concludes with a call for more advocacy and proactive solutions to address the issues discussed.
    Takeaways

    • School choice proposals, such as education savings accounts, can have significant implications for public schools, including potential funding diversion and impact on credit ratings.
    • The sustainability of funding and the ability to maintain high teacher salaries should be carefully considered to avoid future financial challenges.
    • Advocacy and proactive solutions are crucial in addressing the issues surrounding school choice and ensuring the best outcomes for students and public schools.
    • Transparency, accountability, and equity should be prioritized in any school choice initiatives to ensure the fair distribution of resources and opportunities.


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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    SBOs & Superintendents Are the Dream Advocacy Team Mar 26, 2024
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    Summary

    In this episode, Elleka Yost and Noelle Ellerson Ng aka, "Noelleka", discuss various topics related to federal education policy. They cover the partnership between ASBO International and AASA, changes in Congress and education policy, and President Biden's State of the Union address. They also discuss the funding for pre-K, increased funding for chronic absenteeism and learning recovery, raising pay for teachers, and privacy policies affecting educational institutions and student privacy rights. This conversation covers various topics related to privacy in schools, including legislation, E-Rate developments, and the CARE Act. It also emphasizes the need for comprehensive privacy bills and the challenges faced by Congress in addressing these issues. The conversation provides insights into the implications of privacy policies for school districts and parents, as well as resources available for school business officials and superintendents.


    Takeaways

    • The partnership between ASBO International and AASA strengthens advocacy efforts at the federal level, reflecting the collaboration between school business officials and superintendents at the local district level.
    • President Biden's State of the Union address highlighted priorities such as pre-K funding, increased funding for chronic absenteeism and learning recovery, and raising pay for teachers.
    • Funding for education initiatives is a major concern, and the source of funding and potential impact on other programs and obligations must be carefully considered.
    • Privacy policies and student privacy rights are important issues affecting educational institutions, and ongoing discussions and collaborations are necessary to ensure best practices and compliance. Understanding and advocating for student data privacy is crucial for school districts and parents.
    • E-Rate developments, including potential court challenges, require ongoing attention and advocacy.
    • The CARE Act aims to improve mental health programs in schools and address the needs of historically disadvantaged districts.

    Save the date for AASA/ASBO’s 2024 Legislative Advocacy Conference, July 9-11, 2024 in Washington, D.C.!


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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    Reflecting on the 2024 ASBO International Leadership Forum Mar 19, 2024
    Show notes

    Summary

    In this two part episode, John reflects on the first and second day of the 2024 ASBO International Leadership Forum and discusses the importance of emotional intelligence and board leadership. The guests share their experiences with the DiSC® profile exercise and how it has helped them understand their own leadership styles and interact with their staff more effectively. The conversation explores the importance of creating a safe space for vulnerability, the accuracy and self-awareness of DiSC® profiles, personal growth and response to stress, bringing learning back to the team, embedding a culture of openness, the importance of understanding each other, and encouraging attendance future ASBO International Leadership Forums.


    Takeaways

    • The ASBO International Leadership Forum provides an opportunity for school business officials to reflect on their leadership styles and learn from others.
    • Emotional intelligence is a crucial skill for school business officials, as it helps in understanding and managing emotions and building relationships.
    • Board leadership is important for effective governance, and leaders should strive to represent all members of their organization.
    • The DiSC® profile exercise helps individuals understand their strengths and weaknesses as leaders and how to better communicate with their staff.
    • Interacting with similar-minded individuals can provide valuable insights and support in leadership development. Creating a safe space for vulnerability is crucial in fostering understanding and empathy among team members.
    • DiSC® profiles can provide valuable insights into strengths and weaknesses, but individuals may not fully agree with all aspects of their profile.
    • Personal growth and experience can lead to changes in how individuals respond to stress and difficult situations.
    • Bringing back new learnings and strategies to the team can enhance collaboration and effectiveness.
    • Embedding a culture of openness and understanding is essential for effective team dynamics.
    • Understanding each other better is a key factor in improving communication and collaboration.
    • Attending ASBO International Leadership Forums can provide valuable opportunities for learning and growth as a leader.


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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    Controlling the Narrative: Strategies to Effectively Communicate Your Budget Mar 12, 2024
    Show notes

    Summary

    Sarah Viera, the Executive Director of Business Services at the Mequon-Thiensville School District in Wisconsin, speaks about effectively communicating the budget. Sarah shares her background and the unique aspects of her district, including the inclusion of a recreation department. She discusses the challenges she faced during the pandemic in communicating the budget and the misconceptions that arose. Sarah explains how her district formed a community task force to address these challenges and educate the community about the budget. She also discusses the impact of Act 10 on school funding in Wisconsin and the value of networking through ASBO International.
    Takeaways

    • Effectively communicating the budget is crucial for school districts to address misconceptions and gain community support.
    • Forming a community task force can help educate the community about the budget and gather different perspectives.
    • Revenue limits and the need for referendums can pose challenges for school districts in Wisconsin.
    • Networking through organizations like ASBO International can provide valuable support and insights for school business officials.


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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    Advocacy 101 Mar 05, 2024
    Show notes

    In this two part episode of School Business Insider, host John Brucato is joined by Victor Manuel and Julie Marlette to discuss advocacy in the education sector. They talk about the importance of speaking to lawmakers and the best approach to do so. They also discuss the challenges of advocating for education amidst competing interests and the political dance that often takes place.
    John also speaks with Ron Clamser to reflect on their day of advocacy together. The episode highlights the preparation required for advocacy day and the impact it can have. The conversation emphasizes the need for school business officials to be involved in advocacy and build relationships with local legislators.
    Takeaways

    • Advocacy is important in the education sector to ensure that the needs of schools and students are represented.
    • Speaking to lawmakers directly and building relationships with them is crucial for effective advocacy.
    • Advocating for education can be challenging due to competing interests and the political dynamics involved.
    • Preparation and collaboration with advocacy groups are key to successful advocacy efforts.
    • Advocacy should focus on framing the conversation and highlighting the impact on students and communities.
    • Advocacy work is ongoing and requires continuous engagement with legislators and policymakers.


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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    What ESSER Made Possible Feb 27, 2024
    Show notes

    In recognition of Public Schools week this week, we're highlighting the great things SBOs are doing with ESSER funds to support their students!
    In this episode, the guests discuss the impact of ESSER funds on their school districts. They provide background information on their districts and demographics. The conversation covers topics such as the initial reactions to the funding, the challenges faced by business and grants offices, the transition off ESSER funds, and the focus on addressing learning loss and mental health services. The guests reflect on the exhaustion and workload associated with managing the funds and highlight the positive outcomes and improvements achieved through the use of ESSER funds.
    Guests:
    Jon Lansa, Senior Director of Grants & Federal Programs, Tucson Unified School District
    Christopher Smith, Chief Financial Officer, Katy Independent School District
    Nakia Coy, Executive Director of Federal Programs, Katy ISD
    Lynette Cornell, Coordinator of Grant Compliance, Katy ISD
    ASBO International's ESSER Funding Survey Results: https://network.asbointl.org/viewdocument/esser-in-action-k-12-priorities-s
    USDOE ARP Extension Liquidation Letter:
    https://oese.ed.gov/files/2024/01/ARP-Liquidation-Extension-Letter-1.9.24-final-for-signature-v3.pdf

    Takeaways

    • ESSER funds have had a significant impact on school districts, allowing them to address learning loss and provide support for mental health services.
    • Managing ESSER funds has been challenging for business and grants offices, requiring additional staff and compliance measures.
    • Transitioning off ESSER funds requires careful planning and reprioritization of resources.
    • The focus on learning loss and mental health services has been a key priority for districts using ESSER funds.
    • Despite the challenges and exhaustion, the use of ESSER funds has resulted in positive outcomes and improvements in student outcomes.


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    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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    From District to District Feb 20, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode, John Brucato interviews Cindy Reilmann, Assistant Superintendent for Business Services/CFO at the Ferguson Florissant School District. They discuss Cindy's transition from a higher wealth district to a higher needs district and the challenges and opportunities that come with it. They also explore the role of school business officials in impacting student achievement and managing resources in different districts. Cindy shares her first impressions of her new district and the importance of culture. They also discuss the balance between budget constraints and teacher salaries. In this conversation, Cindy Reilmann and John Brucato discuss various aspects of education, including attracting teachers, marketing teaching as a career, teacher pensions, competition for talent, cultural differences in school districts, implementing new software, strategic decision making for cost savings, and a friendly football rivalry between the Chiefs and the Bills.

    Takeaways

    • Transitioning to a new district can be an eye-opening experience, allowing school business officials to gain a broader perspective on student needs and district management.
    • School business officials play a crucial role in managing resources to support student achievement, from personnel to supplies and technology.
    • Culture and narrative are important considerations when transitioning to a new district, as they can impact community perception and student success.
    • Balancing budgets and teacher salaries can be a challenge, especially in higher needs districts where resources may be limited.
    • Building strong relationships and empowering staff members are key to successfully managing resources and achieving district goals. Passion for educating kids and making a difference in their lives is a key requirement for being a teacher.
    • Promoting the benefits of teaching, such as pension plans, can help attract more people to the profession.
    • Competition for talent in education is increasing, with districts trying to attract and retain teachers.
    • Cultural differences between affluent and high needs districts can impact the education system.
    • Implementing new software in education can improve efficiency and decision-making processes.
    • Using digital budget books and cost savings tools can help districts make data-driven decisions and save money.
    • Strategic decision making for cost savings should focus on areas that impact student achievement.


    Contact School Business Insider:

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    Make sure to like, subscribe and share for more great insider episodes!
    Disclaimer:
    The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed are the speaker’s own and do not represent the views, thoughts, and opinions of the Association of School Business Officials International. The material and information presented here is for general information purposes only. The "ASBO International" name and all forms and abbreviations are the property of its owner and its use does not imply endorsement of or opposition to any specific organization, product, or service. The presence of any advertising does not endorse, or imply endorsement of, any products or services by ASBO International.
    ASBO International is a 501(c)3 nonprofit, nonpartisan organization and does not participate or intervene in any political campaign on behalf of, or in opposition to, any candidate for elective public office. The sharing of news or information concerning public policy issues or political campaigns and candidates are not, and should not be construed as, endorsements by ASBO International.

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