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S2EP3: S*x, Lies, and Identity (It’s NOT What You Think) Sep 15, 2026

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⚠️ Content Warning: This episode contains direct, mature conversations about biblical sexuality, pornography, intimacy, and mental health. Viewer and listener discretion is advised, especially for younger audiences.

Podcast Description:

What does it look like to follow Jesus in our confusing, cloudy, and complicated culture? In this episode of Say That Again, Pastor Jason, Chevas Phillips, and CJ Moneke tackle a topic the world is loud about and the church cannot be silent on: sex, sexuality, and identity.

Cutting through the awkwardness and shame, the team breaks down why biblical sexuality starts with God’s creation rather than a list of prohibitions. They discuss how modern culture has shifted sexuality from something you do to who you are, and why trusting God's authority over our body and desires is the ultimate test of discipleship.

Plus, the conversation gets deeply practical:

Winning the War for Your Mind: Moving from retroactive accountability to stopping temptation at the “desire” level.
Towers of Defense: The power of Scripture internalization over simple memorization - storing up "warring verses" before the battle hits.
Parenting in a Digital Age: Why parents must bring a wartime mentality to technology, boundaries, and phone monitoring.
Grace & Truth: How to treat every individual with Imago Dei dignity without sacrificing biblical truth.

Whether you're single, married, or raising kids, this episode offers a freeing, gospel-centered roadmap for walking out sexual integrity in a hyper-connected world.

In this episode, we cover:

Pre-Christian vs. Post-Christian Culture: Applying early church biblical ethics to modern secular society.
Creation vs. Prohibition: Why biblical sexuality originates in God's creation design, not a list of restrictions.
Authority & Identity Shift: Addressing how culture shifted sexuality from what you do to who you are, and trusting God as the ultimate authority.
Light, Community & Accountability: Overcoming isolation and shame by bringing struggles into the open at the “desire” level.
Proactive Spiritual Defense: Developing a "wartime mentality" through intentional time with God, Scripture internalization, and "warring verses."
Parenting & Digital Safety: Establishing boundaries, active phone monitoring, and spiritual leadership in a hyper-connected world.
Truth with Grace: Engaging people with dignity and respect regardless of lifestyle differences, rejecting both condemnation and compromise.

📖 Bible Passages Referenced

Genesis 1:27: Humanity was created male and female in the image of God (Imago Dei).
1 Corinthians 5 & 6: Christian freedom, sexual ethics, and fleeing sexual immorality.
John 8:1–11: Jesus, grace, and the woman caught in adultery (neither condemning nor condoning).
Psalm 119:9–11: Guarding one's path by storing God's Word in the heart to combat sin.
James 1:14: Understanding how personal desire leads to temptation and sin.

📚 Book Recommendations

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S2EP2: Can Christians Drink, Get Tattoos & Listen to Secular Music? Sep 01, 2026

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Host: Pastor Jason Britt

Guests: CJ Moneke & Chevas Phillips

Podcast Description:

What’s the difference between holy living, wisdom, and legalism? In this episode of Say That Again with Pastor Jason, Jason, CJ, and Chevas tackle some of the questions Christians often ask: Can I drink? Can I get a tattoo? What about the music I listen to? What shows can I watch? How do I know if something is actually sinful - or simply a matter of wisdom?

The conversation explores how easily personal convictions can become universal rules and why following Jesus isn’t about walking the closest possible line to sin. Instead, we’re called to keep our eyes on Jesus, walk in wisdom, listen to the Holy Spirit, and recognize that every believer is in a different stage of the sanctification process.

Whether you’ve been hurt by legalism, struggled with gray areas, or simply want to grow in wisdom, this episode offers a freeing reminder: wisdom isn’t about knowing everything. It’s about making decisions that honor Jesus.

In this episode, we cover:

Legalism takes our eyes off Jesus and places them on rules, behaviors, or personal convictions.
There’s a difference between clear biblical truth and personal conviction.
Unique convictions should not automatically become universal principles.
Holiness means being set apart because of Jesus - not being better than others.
Wisdom is about decision-making, not intelligence.
The right question in many gray areas isn’t simply, “Can I do this?” but “Is this the wisest thing for me?”
Your story, struggles, season of life, and position can all influence what wise living looks like.
Sanctification is a process - forgiveness happens in a moment, but change happens over a lifetime.
We can’t manufacture life change or microwave discipleship. We have to trust the Holy Spirit’s work in people.
Surrounding yourself with trusted voices who want God’s best for you is essential for spiritual growth.
Everyone is in a different place in their journey, so we should lead with grace, truth, encouragement, and patience.
Ultimately, wisdom has a name: Jesus.

Timestamps:

00:00 — Welcome to Season 2
02:42 — What Are the “Gray Areas”?
03:40 — Holy Living vs. Legalism
07:18 — How Do You Become a Legalist?
12:22 — Old-School vs. New-School Legalism
15:39 — What Is Wisdom?
18:42 — Conviction, Surrender & Your Story
27:54 — Should We Encourage Others to Follow Our Convictions?
29:51 — You Can’t Microwave Discipleship
38:24 — Final Encouragement & Resources

Episode Resources

📖 Bible Passages Referenced

1 Corinthians 1-2
Luke 13:10-17 (Jesus and the Sabbath)
Philippians 4:8-9
Matthew 12:42 (Jesus as Wisdom)

📚 Book Recommendation

Accidental Pharisees by Larry Osborne

💭 Question to Take With You:

“Is this the wise decision based on who I am, my walk with Jesus, and the season of life I’m in?”

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S2EP1 - How to Build a Life Your Kids Will Want to Follow Aug 18, 2026

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How to Build a Life Your Kids Will Want to Follow

Host: Pastor Jason Britt

Guest: Ryan Britt (Executive Ministries Pastor, The Church of Eleven22)

Podcast Description:

What kind of spiritual resume are you leaving behind for the next generation? In this candid, deeply personal conversation, Pastor Jason sits down with his brother, Ryan Britt, to reflect on their upbringing, navigating early loss, and the lessons learned from their parents.

Together, they dive into the realities of breaking free from an orphan spirit and poverty mindset, fighting the pull of a hurried soul, and cultivating a culture of generous, joyful giving in the home. Whether you are leading a family, serving in ministry, or working to build a lasting legacy, this episode offers grounded wisdom on living a life of presence, trust, and purpose.

In this episode, we cover:

Grief & Processing Pain: Navigating childhood trauma, losing a parent at a young age, and understanding how unaddressed grief manifests as rebellion or performance.
Generational Legacy & Patterns: The difference between achievement and fruitfulness, breaking negative family cycles, and acknowledging both the "lights and shadows" of parents.
Spiritual Formation & Daily Habits: How daily routines—like consistent prayer, Scripture reading, and modeling faith at home—shape the next generation.
Overcoming Toxic Mindsets: Moving past an orphan spirit (feeling unwanted/abandoned) and a poverty mindset around finances to embrace true identity in Christ.
Gospel-Centered Generosity: Transitioning from legalistic, percentage-based giving out of duty to cheerful, first-and-best giving driven by grace.
Soul Care & Pacing: Fighting the pull of a hurried soul through intentional solitude, presence, and home sanctuaries.

Timestamps:

0:00 – Season 2 Welcome & Swag Giveaway
1:39 – Introducing Ryan Britt & Family Life in Jacksonville
4:54 – Ryan's Role at The Church of Eleven22
8:10 – Processing Childhood Pain, Cancer, and Loss
16:14 – Medicating Pain vs. Performing in Faith
19:53 – Secrets, Conviction, and Surrendering to Jesus
25:06 – Lessons from "Wild Bill": Legacy & Generational Patterns
30:53 – "The Green Chair": Reflecting on Dad's Spiritual Habits
33:18 – Discipling the Next Generation & College-Age Faith
36:55 – Fighting the "Hurried Soul"
39:31 – The Practice of Generosity & Overcoming the Orphan Spirit
42:074 – Rejecting Poverty vs. Prosperity Gospels
48:49 – Obedience as Joy & Brennan Manning’s Ruthless Trust
50:16 – Character, Ministry, and Brotherly Support
52:07 – Closing & Say That Again Season Preview

Episode Resources

Books Mentioned:
- Ruthless Trust by Brennan Manning
- The Ragamuffin Gospel by Brennan Manning

Scripture References:
- Luke 15 (The Prodigal Son & Older Brother)
- John 3 (Light vs. Darkness & Secrecy)
- Hebrews 11 & 12 (Faith & Redacted History)
- 1 Corinthians (Fall Teaching Series Context)

Churches & Ministries:

- Bethlehem Church
- The Church of Eleven22

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Ep 9: Jesus at Your 9-5 May 26, 2026

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In this episode, Pastor Jason Britt sits down with longtime friend, mentor, and veteran podcaster Mike Linch - Lead Pastor of Northstar Church and host of Linch with a Leader - for a transparent conversation about what it actually takes to go the distance in faith, leadership, and community impact.

In a culture obsessed with quick wins, viral clips, and instant platforms, Jason and Mike unpack the counter-cultural power of longevity and resilient redundancy. They look at the changing cultural landscape from 2020 to 2026, dealing with the painful realities of leadership - like navigating hyper-sensitive cultural optics and learning when to simply "let the disgruntled grunt" while keeping a "screen door" policy of open-hearted love.

Finally, Mike shares an incredible, perspective-shifting story from the baseball diamond that reminds us of our true identity: wherever you are placed on the map, you are a "minister in disguise." Whether you are a parent at the dinner table, a corporate leader, or a coach on the field, this episode will challenge you to stop overestimating social media clout and start leaning into the profound influence of everyday discipleship.

In this episode, we cover:

The Anchor of Longevity: Why staying in one place long-term kills ego, builds deep trust, and keeps you grounded.
Church FOR the Community: Re-positioning the local church to become the city's first call for help by serving with no strings attached.
Resilient Redundancy: Why doing the same core things over and over with hunger and curiosity is the secret "magic" behind momentum.
Letting the Disgruntled Grunt: Embracing the emotional toll of leadership, handling exits with grace, and maintaining an open "screen door" church culture.
Ministers in Disguise: Why your uniform, job title, or zip code is just a cover for your real assignment: representing Jesus exactly where you are.

Timestamps

00:00 – Intro: Shifting from a weekend message to a mid-week mission.
00:45 – Welcoming Mike Lynch: A 30-year full-circle friendship.
02:30 – The In-Law Connection: Honoring the legacy of Eddie and Lou Dell Bishop.
06:40 – The Anchor of Longevity: Staying grounded when people know the "real you" first.
12:06 – Church FOR the Community: Becoming the city's first call for help.
16:18 – Irresistible Influence: Building bridges to schools, government, and local businesses.
18:25 – The Aftermath of Crisis: Showing up consistently before tragedy strikes.
21:40 – Who is My Neighbor? Recognizing the needs of the people in your natural life path.
24:15 – Moving at the Speed of People: Why Jesus’ greatest ministry moments were actually interruptions.
26:17 – 10 Years of Lynch with a Leader: Core takeaways from a decade of interviewing iconic Christian leaders.
28:45 – Sweeping the Streets: True greatness found in the mundane.
31:30 – Intentional Curiosity: Why leaders must never assume they have a corner on the market (and Andy Stanley’s driver).
34:19 – Resilient Redundancy: How doing the same core things over and over builds the magic of momentum.
35:33 – The Battle and the Build: Managing burnout, emotional weariness, and personal rhythms in ministry.
38:49 – Letting the Disgruntled Grunt: Navigating the emotional toll of people leaving and why we need "screen door" relationships.
43:31 – The Post-2020 Shift: Leading through a landscape hyper-sensitive to optics, assumptions, and misread moments.
45:31 – Digital Boundaries: Practical strategies for protecting your peace on X, LinkedIn, and Instagram.
47:57 – Ministers in Disguise: The inspiring home plate prayer story and the unmatched value of everyday influence over social media clips.

Episode Resources

https://mikelinch.com/

Bethlehem Church Website

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Ep 8: The Kind of Strength You Only Get Through Struggle May 12, 2026

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In this episode, Pastor Jason Britt sits down with Tyler Staton - Lead Pastor of Bridgetown Church in Portland and author of The Familiar Stranger - for a masterclass on the most misunderstood person of the Trinity: the Holy Spirit.

In this conversation, they bridge the gap between "Word" churches and "Spirit" churches, moving past the "hermeneutic gymnastics" that often keep us from experiencing God’s power. From Tyler’s roots in rural Kentucky to his raw, personal journey through a two-year battle with cancer, this episode explores why the Spirit is often a "Familiar Stranger" in our lives.

They tackle the hard truth at the center of the gospel: that the greatest strength is often forged in the deepest suffering. They also provide a vision for a "Marketplace Kingdom" that exists everywhere from car dealerships to Little League games. Whether you're a pastor searching for fresh leadership tools or a believer longing for a "both/and" faith (spirit and truth, thinking and feeling), this conversation is the breath of fresh air you’ve been looking for.

In this episode, we cover:

The "Familiar Stranger" Problem: Why we are comfortable with God as Father and Son, but remain awkward with the indwelling Spirit.
The “Simon the Sorcerer” Trap: Differentiating between the "ego-driven" pursuit of miracles and the "cross-driven" pursuit of Jesus.
The Theology of Suffering: Why the most powerful work of Jesus' life came through His own suffering—and why ours is no different.
New Testament Prophecy: Reclaiming prophecy as a humble act of brotherly love rather than a "spiritual bullseye."
The Marketplace Kingdom: Why 39 out of 40 parables were set outside the temple—and how to live missionally in your "ordinary" life.
After Amen: An inside look at Tyler’s new 50-day devotional, featuring poetry lifted straight from his private prayer journals during his illness.

Timestamps

00:00 – Intro: Moving from a weekend message to a mid-week mission.
01:30 – Meet Tyler Staton: The impact of Familiar Stranger on Bethlehem Church.
02:54 – Tyler’s Journey: From Nashville tobacco farms to Brooklyn and Portland.
05:48 – Defining the "Familiar Stranger": Knowing about Him vs. knowing Him.
09:40 – Theology, Model, & Practice: Why our models of the Spirit are often the source of our fear.
14:59 – The Marriage of Word and Spirit: Ending the 51/49 theological divide.
17:12 – Holy Spirit in the Valley: Lessons on finding the "peace that transcends understanding" during a cancer battle.
23:35 – Power vs. The Cross: Learning from the mistakes of Simon the Sorcerer.
29:05 – The Apostle Peter: From cutting off ears to being filled with the Spirit.
30:38 – Rightsizing Prophecy: How to hear and share the voice of God with humility.
37:15 – For Pastors: Leading a "both/and" community in a noisy, image-driven culture.
40:46 – Marketplace Faith: Why Jesus dreams about the Kingdom invading our everyday lives.
44:00 – After Amen: A 50-day journey through the signs of John and the "treasures of the wilderness."
48:38 – Final Blessing: Being a "city on a hill" in your community.

Join the Conversation

Jesus spent most of His time teaching in the streets, not the temple. Where is your "marketplace"? How are you seeing the Kingdom of God show up in your office, in your gym, or at your kitchen table this week? Share your story in the comments!

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Ep 7: The Church Isn’t What It Used to Be… Apr 28, 2026

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Podcast Description: The "Disney World" of secular culture is looking hollower than ever. In this episode, Pastor Jason Britt and Pastor Jason Berry (Senior Pastor of 12Stone Church) discuss why the next generation is trading "jumpy houses" for deep prayer and authentic worship.

They explore the startling shift in the last 24–36 months, identifying a "fresh move" of God that is rising out of cultural pressure. From the expansion of 12Stone into South Carolina to the vital importance of the Ecclesia (the Church) over "celebrity Jesus" culture, this episode is a rallying cry for the "Big C" Church. Whether you are a leader in Gwinnett, Barrow, or beyond, learn why the local church remains "Plan A" for a world that is finally realizing that money and comfort don't satisfy.

Stick around until the end for a hilarious "behind-the-scenes" look at the Jasons' friendship, featuring a golf cart mishap and a Nissan Maxima with no brakes.

Key Topics & Keywords

Spiritual Awakening: Why cultural darkness is actually waking up the Church
The "Ecclesia": Moving from "me and Jesus" to "us and the Body”
Youth Ministry Trends: The shift from entertainment-based ministry to spiritual hunger
12Stone Church Future: Updates on the Somerville campus and upcoming men’s ministry
The Local Church: Reaching the communities of Gwinnett, Barrow, Walton, and Oconee

📌 Episode Timestamps:

00:00 – Intro: Digging deeper into the Bethlehem Church weekend message.
02:18 – Jason Berry’s heritage: Breaking the cycle of alcoholism through revival.
09:16 – Ending Church Competition: Why the darkness is making us brothers.
15:43 – Preaching in the AI Age: Writing for a local burden, not a social media retweet.
20:14 – The Joshua Generation: Why today’s residents are "hungry and humble."
29:05 – The "Fresh Move": Why the last 36 months have changed everything.
30:11 – The Disney World Analogy: Identifying the hollow promises of secularism.
32:20 – The Future of 12Stone: Expansion, Men’s Ministry, and "Biblical Jesus."
33:50 – Ecclesia over "Me": Why Jesus loves the Church more than the individual "brand."
36:11 – The Golf Cart Story: A hilarious moment in the Jasons’ friendship.
37:55 – Final Blessing: Being a “city on a hill" in your daily life.

Episode Resources:

12Stone Church

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Ep 6: Is Your View of Israel Shaped by the Bible or the News? Apr 14, 2026

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Podcast Description: In this episode of Say That Again, Pastor Jason Britt and Discipleship Director Angela Buckland sit down with biblical guide and historian Mark Crosland for a raw and insightful conversation about the biblical context of current events in the Middle East. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by the news headlines or caught in the crossfire of social media rhetoric, this episode is a refreshing invitation to view the world through a "Jesus-centered" lens rather than a geopolitical one.

Mark and the team pull back the curtain on the complex history of the Holy Land—from Mark’s upbringing in Jerusalem to the archaeological digs at Shiloh. They move past the surface-level noise to explore the 4,000-year history of the "two brothers," Isaac and Ishmael, and how God’s heart remains steadfast for all people groups in the region. Whether you are navigating the historical evidence of the Abrahamic promise or trying to understand how the Holy Spirit is moving through supernatural dreams in the Middle East today, this episode points the way toward an authentic, kingdom-first perspective.

In this episode, we cover:

The Root of the Conflict: A 4,000-year history lesson starting with Abraham, Sarah, and Hagar that explains the age-old tension between Isaac and Ishmael.
Geopolitics vs. Spiritual Forces: Why our "post-Enlightenment" minds often miss the principalities and demonic forces at play in global division.
The Modern State of Israel: An honest look at the spiritual landscape of Israel today and why the vast majority of the population identifies as atheist or agnostic.
Dreams and Visions: Miraculous accounts of "the man in the white robe" appearing to people in the West Bank and Iran, leading them to Yeshua.
Identity in Christ: How the New Testament shifts the focus from physical geography to a spiritual identity as "Abraham’s offspring" through faith.

📌 Episode Timestamps

00:00 – Welcome: Introduction to the podcast and the mission of digging deeper into current events.
02:35 – Living in Jerusalem: Mark Crosland shares his story of growing up overlooking the Temple Mount and loving both "sides."
05:22 – The 4,000-Year History: Tracing the lineage of Ishmael and Isaac and the origin of the current Middle East tension.
08:39 – The Abrahamic Covenant: A deep dive into Genesis 12 and what it means for "all nations" to be blessed.
13:59 – Image Bearers: Moving past political labels to see every person as a valuable bearer of God's image.
16:38 – Supernatural Encounters: Incredible stories of Muslims and Jews having visions of Jesus in conflict zones.
17:52 – The Spiritual Reality: Discussing the high percentage of agnosticism in Israel and the growth of the Messianic church.
24:56 – Prophecy and the Land: A look at the geography of Israel, fault lines, and the biblical return of the Messiah.
27:02 – Understanding Gaza: Historical context of the 1948 reinstatement of Israel and the reality of the West Bank.
32:45 – The Battle for Air: Why Pastor Jason believes we must recognize the "rulers of the air" in modern division.
39:47 – The Two Kingdoms: Shifting our focus from earthly politics to the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Darkness.
41:26 – Seeds of Hope: Practical examples of bridge-building in the West Bank through Christian education.
49:46 – The Ripping of the Veil: How Jewish tradition and the Babylonian Talmud point to the significance of 30 A.D.
55:10 – Hope for the Future: Encouragement for the Church to stand on the side of Jesus and the final victory of the gospel.

Episode Resources:

Bethlehem Church Website
Seeds of Hope Ministry (West Bank Education)
Romans 9-11 (Paul’s Teaching on Israel and the Nations)

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Ep 5: You’ll Never Look at Easter the Same Mar 31, 2026

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Podcast Description: In this episode of Say That Again, Pastor Jason Britt, Pastor Kevin Miller, and Chevas Phillips sit down for a raw and insightful conversation about the true meaning of Easter and the power of the Resurrection. If you’ve ever felt like your faith was more of a "family heirloom" or a "holiday-only" tradition, this episode is a refreshing invitation to move from just attending a service to experiencing a living, breathing relationship with Christ.

The trio pulls back the curtain on their own lives—from Pastor Kevin’s 1980s "Miami Vice" Easter hair to Chevas’s journey from "court clothes" to a life transformed by the gospel. They move past the commercialization of bunnies and baskets to explore what it actually looks like to surrender personal authority to the Lordship of Jesus. Whether you're navigating the historical evidence for the empty tomb or trying to understand how the Resurrection changes your Monday morning, this episode points the way toward an authentic, lasting dependency on the Holy Spirit.

In this episode, we cover:

The "CEO" Christian: Why a faith built only on "Christmas, Easter, and Other Crises" misses the beauty of abiding in Christ.
Evidence vs. Authority: A look at the historical reliability of the Resurrection and why our biggest hurdle is often Lordship, not logic.
The "Unbecoming": How surrendering to Jesus allows us to let go of worldly labels and become who He truly created us to be.
Ginosko vs. Oida: Understanding the difference between having information about God and experientially knowing the power of His Resurrection.
The Practical Holy Week: Simple, intentional "handles" for families to move past the pomp and circumstance and into true worship.

📌 Episode Timestamps

00:00 – Welcome: Introduction to Holy Week and why the empty tomb makes anything possible.
03:12 – Miami Vice Easter: A hilarious look at 80s church culture and the evolution of "church clothes."
07:45 – The Family Heirloom Faith: Defining "CEO" Christianity and the trap of performance-based religion.
11:03 – The Case for Easter: Discussing historical evidence, eyewitness accounts, and the logic of the Resurrection.
15:10 – The Authority Gap: Why we often choose "the big man upstairs" over a personal Lord and Savior.
17:40 – Heaven and Hell as Reality: Chevas shares the moment her faith shifted from a concept to a conviction.
21:40 – The Power of Surrender: Shifting from "expressive individualism" to a life led by the Spirit.
25:26 – Supernatural Living: How the Resurrection changes the way we pray, grieve, and lead.
27:54 – The Battle for Control: Real-life examples of keeping in step with the Spirit in the heat of the moment.
30:30 – Slave to Righteousness: Exploring Romans 6 and the "holy obligation" that comes with new life.
35:10 – Holy Week Handles: Practical resources, reading plans, and using the Bethlehem Church app.
37:45 – Intentional Parenting: Moving beyond the Easter basket to lead your children toward Christ.
40:54 – A Word to Fathers: Why men should take the lead in making Holy Week significant for their families.
42:48 – The Great Candy Debate: A final look at Cadbury eggs, Starburst jelly beans, and the joy of the season.

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Ep 4: What’s the best thing we can do to help our kids know Jesus? Mar 17, 2026

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Podcast Description: In Episode 4 of Say That Again, Pastor Jason Britt sits down with longtime friend, author, and speaker Clay Scroggins for a raw, hilarious, and deeply insightful look at parenting and the future of the church. If you’ve ever felt like a "hypocrite" as a parent or struggled to bridge the gap between your kids’ world and your faith, this conversation is a breath of fresh air.

The duo pulls back the curtain on their own lives—from the overconfidence of their early ministry days to the humbling reality of raising teenagers today. They move past "10-step formulas" to explore what it actually looks like to model a life of dependency on the Holy Spirit. Whether you're navigating "clip farming" and Gen Z lingo or trying to help your kids develop a "sticky faith," this episode points the way toward an authentic, lasting relationship with Jesus.

In this episode, we cover:

The "Microwave" Myth: Why real spiritual growth takes time and cannot be manufactured or rushed.
Sticky Faith: The critical importance of "brokeraging" relationships between your kids and other godly adults.
Knowledge vs. Wisdom: Why having all the answers at your fingertips isn't the same as "skilled living."
Parenting in the Slang Era: A hilarious look at "clip farming," "rizz," and why trying too hard to be cool actually loses you points with Gen Z.
The Sanctification of Fatherhood: Shifting the perspective from "how can I change my kid" to "how is God using my kid to change me?"

📌 Episode Timestamps

00:00 – Welcome: Introducing Clay Scroggins and the "move of God" at Bethlehem Church.
03:12 – Microwave Discipleship: Why you can't manufacture life change or speed-run character.
05:41 – The Slang Gap: "Clip farming," "rizz," and the power of being an "out of touch" authentic parent.
10:45 – Information vs. Wisdom: Helping kids navigate a world where they have more data than we ever did.
11:03 – The Five-Adult Rule: The importance of "brokering" godly relationships for your children.
14:54 – The Trap of Comfort: How financial success and busy schedules can block our access to wisdom.
17:09 – The Familiar Stranger: Reintroducing the Holy Spirit as the daily source of "skilled living."
19:14 – Communal Faith: Why the next generation needs to read the Bible and pray with others.
25:59 – The Three Disciplines: Why every "spiritual drift" comes back to Word, Prayer, and the Body.
28:55 – The Youth Pastor Paradox: Moving from parenting "expert" to parenting "learner."
30:30 – The Power of Repentance: A candid story about lying at an SEC game and owning it before your kids.
32:45 – Modeling Dependency: Inviting your family into real moments of prayer and struggle.
36:11 – Reverse Mentoring: Why the church must learn to listen to the earnestness and hunger of Gen Z.
40:54 – The Goal of Parenting: Shifting from "changing your kid" to letting God use your kids to change you.
42:48 – Closing Encouragement: Cultivating the voice of the Spirit to be the loudest voice in your child's life.

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Ep 3: What does it look like when the Holy Spirit won’t give up on you? Mar 03, 2026

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In Episode 3 of Say That Again, Pastor Jason Britt sits down with Angela Buckland and Chevas Phillips for a powerful, candid conversation about the relentless pursuit of the Holy Spirit. If you’ve ever felt like God was a distant concept or someone you were actively trying to avoid, this episode is a must-listen.

The team dives back into the "Familiar Stranger" series to explore how the Holy Spirit doesn't just wait for us to find Him—He actively seeks us out. From Angela’s intellectual quest for truth through philosophy to Chevas’s journey from resisting the "abrasive" presence of God to total surrender, this episode highlights the beautiful, diverse ways the Spirit "woos" us toward Jesus.

In this episode, we cover:

The Divine Hunter: Understanding how God pursues us before we even have the language for it.
Intellect vs. Revelation: Moving from studying religion as a "viable option" to experiencing the living Christ.
The "Chocolate Syrup" Reality: The difference between the Spirit being with us (Old Testament) and the Spirit being in us (New Testament).
Witnessing Transformation: How seeing a spouse or friend changed by the Spirit is the greatest evidence for faith.

📌 Episode Timestamps

00:00 – Introduction: Welcome to this mid-week resource for the Bethlehem Church family.
01:03 – Meet the Guests: Introducing Angela Buckland and Chevas Phillips.
02:20 – Life Updates: Senior nights, "Ring Pops," and the journey toward an empty nest.
04:50 – The Familiar Stranger: Why we are camping out on the third Person of the Trinity.
05:25 – Seeking vs. Being Sought: How Christianity differs from every other world religion.
06:45 – Angela’s Story: From an agnostic quest for truth to John 10:14.
09:55 – C.S. Lewis and the "Click": When the intellectual search meets the Holy Spirit.
12:20 – Resisting the Presence: Chevas’s journey of feeling "uncomfortable" in worship.
15:45 – The Power of a Changed Life: Watching a husband move from "boyfriend" to "follower of Jesus."
18:45 – Chocolate Syrup & Milk: An illustration of the Holy Spirit's indwelling power.
20:40 – The Solomon Dilemma: Why wisdom without the Spirit lacks the power to obey.
26:10 – The Truest Voice: Learning to listen to the still, small voice of God.
29:40 – Fruit of the Spirit: Why rage is not a sign of the Spirit’s leading.
31:20 – Microwave Discipleship: You can't speed-run character formation.
33:17 – God Sounds Like His Word: Using Scripture as the primary tool for discernment.
42:30 – Access to the Father: We are as close to God as we choose to be.
44:40 – Pop Culture & Jesus: Navigating "Content Christianity" and celebrity faith.
47:35 – The Litmus Test: The Holy Spirit exalts Christ; false spirits use Him.
50:35 – Following Jesus over Personalities: Why your faith shouldn't be in a “basket of eggs."
50:57 – The Separation of Spirit and Truth: Why the church struggles to balance both.
51:50 – The Church Landscape: Defining Doctrinal, Missional, and Spirit-Filled churches.
54:10 – Living at the Center: Moving from suspicion of other traditions to curiosity and synergy.
55:40 – The Beauty of Mystery: Why the older you get, the fewer things you are "ironclad" on.
57:00 – Bethlehem Church's Mandate: Unity, Liberty, and Charity.
58:24 – Final Thoughts: Using this conversation as a tool for your spiritual growth.

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