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Rock N Roll Story Guys

Rock N Roll Story Guys features two best friends discussing (and maybe setting straight) the rumor, innuendo and hidden details that surround some of the biggest bands and songs in rock n roll history.

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Berlin vs Take My Breath Away Jan 08, 2025

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Brian and Murdock make a case for Terri Nunn – lead singer of Berlin – as forgotten feminist icon while examining the story behind the movie soundtrack single that made the band huge – and broke the band up.

SHOW NOTES:

https://vinyldistractions.com/berlin-pleasure-victim/

https://www.thatericalper.com/2019/01/05/terri-nunn-who-would-later-become-lead-singer-of-new-wave-group-berlin-auditioning-for-princess-leia-in-star-wars-with-harrison-ford-in-1976/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KROQ_Weenie_Roast

https://www.tampabay.com/terri-nunns-journey-to-berlin-almost-got-sidetracked-in-dallas/2322182/

Child actor system dissertation: https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2453&context=utk_chanhonoproj

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_Heartbeat

Hollywood Heartbeat 1979 performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APPhaCUZj-0

https://www.lostturntable.com/2016/03/21/10-years-of-being-lost-berlins-information/

Virginia and the Slims: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDBaUgA0NzA

Beast of Beast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC4M5e6xAzs

https://themusepatrol.com/2014/02/09/80s-bands-time-forgot-spotlight-beast-of-beast/

Berlin at US Festival 1983: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAo-q-4kW7E

Motels demo of Take My Breath Away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR8qRTSkbgg

https://www.yahoo.com/now/berlins-terri-nunn-on-how-she-got-her-ex-to-play-an-ahole-on-new-song-202751710.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_More_Words

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_Moroder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Whitlock

Berlin’s cover of Marilyn Manson’s Dope Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mesTjE4fKA

The Zappas vs each other Oct 09, 2024

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Brian and Murdock get into the family drama that has surrounded the Godfather of Freak Folk’s wife and kids throughout the last decade and spell out which Zappas married famous, recorded novelty songs (3 of the 5!), and finally made it to the bank.

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SHOW NOTES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gail_Zappa

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/was-gail-zappa-a-good-custodian-of-the-zappa-legacy.962928/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/interactive/2024/frank-zappa-family-feud-moon-unit-dweezil/

https://www.billboard.com/pro/bennett-glotzer-music-manager-frank-zappa-janis-joplin-dies/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Zappa

https://afka.net/Articles/1981-09_Music_Connection.htm

https://rhoerer.wordpress.com/2015/10/14/bunny-and-bear/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=UucabESONvY&t=5

https://www.afka.net/Articles/1996-06_Performing_Songwriter.htm

Billboard interview 1990: https://wiki.killuglyradio.com/wiki/Just_Plain_Folks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_Girl_(song)

https://www.thembj.org/2010/10/creativity-copyright-the-new-marketplace-an-interview-with-gail-zappa/

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/moon-zappas-complicated-relationship-with-valley-girl-40-years-later-i-just-was-trying-to-make-my-dad-laugh-203637351.html

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1983/01/14/Rock-singer-Frank-Zappa-wants-a-judge-to-stop/6852411368400/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dweezil_Zappa

https://bo.knittingfactory.com/tm-attraction/dweezil-zappa/

https://www.spin.com/2024/08/moon-unit-zappa-memoir-interview/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/emreturn-of-the-son-ofem_b_644624

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmet_Zappa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diva_Zappa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXHvR4hgxQE

https://deecrowseer.wordpress.com/2008/05/09/relative-values-moon-unit-and-diva-zappa/

https://www.zappanews.co.uk/interviews/dweezil-zappa

https://www.westernsouthern.com/retirement/family-trust

https://www.kcopplelaw.com/frank-zappa-and-estate-trustees/

https://www.thewealthadvisor.com/article/frank-zappa-trust-cuts-heirs-out-40m-family-name

https://www.tiaa.org/public/learn/retirement-planning-and-beyond/what-is-a-trust

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/inside-the-zappa-family-feud-104088/

Z (Dweezil and Ahmet’s band) 1993 festival performance – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQIrBSbNEgs

https://www.mansionglobal.com/articles/lady-gaga-snaps-up-music-legend-frank-zappa-s-estate-40753

https://observer.com/2021/11/lady-gaga-sells-frank-zappa-hollywood-hills-home-lizzy-jagger/

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Dio vs Elf Jun 12, 2024

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A listener letter leads the guys to nerd out on the unlikely career and success of Ronnie James Dio and that band he led before another rock legend came calling.

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SHOW NOTES

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_James_Dio

Ronnie Dio and the Prophets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHgcFXcY_yo

First Time Reaction to Rainbow’s “Stargazer”

#1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiD9dzIa4J

#2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVP25CPi934

Remembering when Black Sabbath spent more on cocaine while making ‘Vol. 4’ than on the album itself

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/black-sabbath-cocaine-vol-4/

Sabbath live 1980

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wexC2FMVsR4

Hear N Aid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear_%27n_Aid

Elf, Sit Down Honey, Everything will be alright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqLJP5-5y0s

Dio on South Park

https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/s24ibx/south-park-dio

“Ronnie James Dio: Unlocking His Secrets”

https://tprs.com/interviews/ronnie-james-dio-unlocking-his-secrets/

Find a Grave.com-Nick Pantas

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/52407857/nicholas-zaharis-pantas

Doug Thayer interview

https://www.classicbands.com/DougThalerInterview.html

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Third Eye Blind vs Stephan Jenkins May 29, 2024

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The guys dive into one of the stories that first inspired the whole idea for the show – the cutthroat business practices of Mr. Stephan Jenkins, the founder and singer of a band called Third Eye Blind.

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SHOW NOTES

Suzaie by Splash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0TtjwrrRfY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephan_Jenkins

https://laughingsquid.com/mtv-basement-tapes-frank-zappa

https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Blind-Ambition-Third-Eye-Blind-leader-Stephan-2893749.php

https://riffmagazine.com/features/third-eye-blind-trademark/#google_vignette

https://floodmagazine.com/39035/how-its-going-to-be-why-two-former-members-of-third-eye-blind-cant-call-themselves-former-members-of-third-eye-blind/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-Charmed_Life

https://www.bmi.com/news/entry/Real-World_Success_Story_Stephan_Jenkins_and_Third_Eye_Blind

https://www.ebar.com/story.php?ch=bartab&sc=live_music&id=289014

https://trialinsider.com/2013/10/16/third-eye-blind-rat-in-the-books/

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/third-eye-blind-frontman-and-drummer-save-children-from-drowning-a7077811.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Cadogan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Satriani

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/ex-third-eye-blind-guitarists-suit-heads-to-trial-75440/

https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/third-eye-blind-self-titled-debut-album-oral-history-7751391/

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/guitarist-sues-his-former-band-members-third-2699021.php

Blue discussion between Stephan and Jason Carmer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdjiP6-s5Uw

https://jivewrites.wordpress.com/2020/11/12/third-eye-blinds-blue-is-the-most-interesting-sophomore-album-of-the-last-25-years/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

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Sam Cooke vs the FBI May 01, 2024

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Brian and Murdock break down the three theories that have haunted many since the death of Sam Cooke back in December of 1964. Was it really just bad behavior gone worse? Or was Sam set up?

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SHOW NOTES:

Dream Boogie Peter Guralnick book: https://www.amazon.com/Dream-Boogie-Triumph-Sam-Cooke/dp/0316013293

UPI Report: https://www.newspapers.com/image/393958105/?fcfToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJmcmVlLXZpZXctaWQiOjM5Mzk1ODEwNSwiaWF0IjoxNzEzODI4MjUzLCJleHAiOjE3MTM5MTQ2NTN9.WCnGsjb-fSQIY1jd-HtoRPqa8G1HOTKn2Bl3b_Dld8w

https://people.com/movies/why-mystery-still-shrouds-singer-sam-cookes-shooting-death-nearly-60-years-later/

https://blogs.loc.gov/now-see-hear/2021/02/on-the-recording-registry-a-change-is-gonna-come-1964/

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/conspiracy-theory-death-of-sam-cooke/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Schmitt

https://nilssonschmilsson.com/martonis-210629103925.html

https://www.facebook.com/VintageLosAngeles/photos/a.578880922168631/2653685958021440/?type=3

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/mar/02/remastered-sam-cooke-murder

Remastered: The Two Killings of Sam Cooke Netflix doc: https://www.netflix.com/title/80191045

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Klein

FBI watching Ali info: https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN14511P/

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/true-history-behind-one-night-miami-180976768/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._W._Alexander_(musician)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Womack

The Soul Stirrer by Barney Hoskins: https://teachrock.org/article/the-soul-stirrer-sam-cooke/

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The Wrecking Crew vs music history Apr 24, 2024

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A listener letter sends the guys on the first of what could be many explorations into the backstories of some of the session musicians who made up the collective who would come to be known as “The Wrecking Crew.” Hear the story of the drummer who happened to be next door just in time to step into a powerful and historic musical moment.

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SHOW NOTES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Palmer

“I Hate My Generation” music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOsNsOhyG8I

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosimo_Matassa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin_Records

Backbeat, the book: https://www.louisianamusicfactory.com/product/tony-scherman-backbeat-earl-palmers-story-book/

Modern Drummer feature: https://www.moderndrummer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/md352cs.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelly_Manne https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rock-hall-of-fame-drummer-earl-palmer-dead-at-84-254915/

https://www.adioslounge.com/sideman-spotlight-earl-palmer/

https://scottkfish.com/2016/01/23/earl-palmer-i-wasnt-quite-sure-what-i-wanted-to-do-with-my-life/

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-unlikely-story-of-a-change-is-gonna-come

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=100689&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=954#bottom

https://www.nytimes.com/1958/06/13/archives/musicians-strike-spreads-on-coast-independents-hit-by-afm-film.html

Avelo’s “The Strike that Changed Disney Music”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBsGwNJ54-M

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boudreaux

https://www.npr.org/2014/02/01/268995033/sam-cooke-and-the-song-that-almost-scared-him

https://blogs.loc.gov/now-see-hear/2021/02/on-the-recording-registry-a-change-is-gonna-come-1964/

https://pan-african-music.com/en/a-change-is-gonna-come-a-hymn-for-civil-rights/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFO_Records

https://www.facebook.com/WreckingCrewFilm/posts/on-this-date-june-3-1967-the-instrumental-tracks-for-never-my-love-by-the-associ/10157450423118023/

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K-tel vs the music business Apr 17, 2024

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A photo of a whole lot of famous rockers in one place gets the guys researching a record label that redefined the way music was listened to and sold in 1970’s America.

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SHOW NOTES:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-tel

The photo: https://qr.ae/psvMqm

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-dire-straits-thin-lizzy-eric-clapton-led-zeppelin-bad-company-and-109755815.html

https://www.discogs.com/release/12787001-Various-The-Summit

https://www.loudersound.com/news/led-zeppelin-once-released-a-song-on-k-tel-the-result-was-one-of-the-great-all-star-photos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Year_of_the_Child

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNESCO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_the_Child

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerts_for_the_People_of_Kampuchea

https://americansongwriter.com/remember-when-the-concerts-for-the-people-of-kampuchea/

https://hercsktelalbums.blogspot.com/2017/05/the-summit-uk-january-1980.html

https://mymusicthroughtheyears.wordpress.com/2022/01/08/the-rise-and-fall-of-k-tel-records/

https://www.mentalfloss.com/posts/k-tel-as-seen-on-tv-compilation-album-history

1997 Billboard ads celebrating KTEL: https://books.google.com/books?id=qQ4EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA47-IA3&lpg=PA47-IA3&dq=K-Tel&source=bl&ots=C4AWmvPyX7&sig=ACfU3U2g9VCfSsuB5DT3Z-h2QJLfq56mZw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjd_-eXsav5AhUTg4kEHXgrDpg4WhDoAXoECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=K-Tel&f=false

https://www.tampabay.com/incoming/k-tels-shouting-infomercial-legend-dies-at-87/2275511/

Fun stuff about the history of Teflon:

https://misen.com/blogs/news/polytetrafluoroethylene

https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/202104/history.cfm

https://playback.fm/charts/top-100-songs/1938

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Gr%C3%A9goire

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/philip-kives-founder-of-k-tel-and-pioneering-pitchman-went-from-coveralls-to-riches

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Story Guys – Minisode – Happy Halloween Oct 30, 2019

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The guys do a short special to highlight a few Halloween stories and sing a song!

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