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RIDEOUT: The Other Side of Hard

The Other Side of Hard, hosted by Ken Rideout — raw, gripping conversations with people who’ve pushed past the breaking point. Stories of resilience, redemption, and what’s waiting on the other side.

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From Undrafted to the Front Office | Ran Carthon Jan 21, 2026

Show notes

Ran Carthon has lived football from every angle — from undrafted NFL running back fighting to stay on rosters, to working his way through scouting and personnel, to eventually becoming General Manager of the Tennessee Titans.

In this conversation, Ken Rideout goes beyond wins and losses to explore the human side of the NFL: pressure, family sacrifice, leadership, and what it really takes to earn trust inside an organization. Ran reflects on his upbringing as a military kid, finding home in Key West, and the lessons passed down from his father’s long NFL playing and coaching career.

He shares the reality of being undrafted, the intensity of being coached by his own father, the behind-the-scenes grind of front office life, and what true collaboration actually looks like inside winning teams. Ran also opens up about being let go publicly — and how he rebuilt his mindset around peace, joy, and purpose beyond the job.

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Chapters

(00:00) Introduction and Guest Background

(00:20) Family Legacy in Football

(00:59) Challenges and Hardships in Football

(02:32) Training and Practice Insights

(04:42) Adoption and Community Support

(07:15) Racial Differences and Community

(18:14) Growing Up in Key West

(21:34) High School Football and Recruitment

(37:35) Sponsor: Liposomal NAD+ (RO Nutrition)

(38:47) NFL Journey: From Undrafted to Camp

(41:04) Father-Son Coaching Experience

(45:14) Transition to the Indianapolis Colts

(54:22) Fan Culture and Player Respect

(01:00:59) Challenges for Black Coaches in the NFL

(01:04:23) Path to Becoming an NFL Executive

(01:19:48) 49ers Draft Room + Building Reputation

(01:23:29) Transition to the Tennessee Titans

(01:28:21) Challenges of Being a GM

(01:31:13) Balancing Family and Career

(01:38:51) Life After the Titans + Reset Mindset

(01:46:58) Final Thoughts and Super Bowl Predictions

(02:01:38) Outro

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From Chaos to Kona: A Transformational Journey | John Joseph Jan 14, 2026

Show notes

John Joseph grew up in extreme violence, neglect, and instability. Raised by a violent, alcoholic father, he spent years in abusive foster homes, experienced homelessness on the streets of New York City as a teenager, battled addiction, and cycled through incarceration and institutional lock-ups at a young age. By every conventional measure, his life was headed toward an early end.

This episode traces John’s journey through that chaos—and the single principle that allowed him to survive it: discipline.

From punk rock and life on the streets, to sobriety, plant-based living, endurance sports, and completing multiple Ironman triathlons, John rebuilt his life one deliberate decision at a time. We talk about breaking cycles of abuse and addiction, replacing self-destruction with structure, and why discipline—not motivation—is the foundation for lasting change.

This is a conversation about accountability, resilience, and what it actually takes to turn suffering into strength when there’s no safety net and no one coming to save you.

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John Joseph:

Website: www.johnjosephdiscipline.com
Instagram: @johnjosephdiscipline
YouTube: @hardtruthwithjohnjoseph5582

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Chapters

(00:00) Introduction to John Joseph

(00:20) Meeting at Crunch Gym

(01:16) First Ironman Experience

(02:09) Ironman Journey and Achievements

(05:58) Sponsorship and Endorsements

(06:50) John Joseph's Origin Story

(09:59) Life in Foster Care

(13:37) Surviving Abuse and Finding Strength

(26:46) Transition to a Better Foster Home

(32:18) Life on the Streets and Early Hustles

(34:45) Involvement in Drug Trade and Punk Scene

(41:41) Dark Times and Escaping Danger

(47:17) Muscle Mike and Mob Justice

(48:01) Surviving Spofford: Tyson's Story

(48:11) First Night Fight: Establishing Dominance

(49:55) Escape Plan on the Bus

(51:20) Sentenced to Upstate: Family Connections

(53:20) Navy Recruiter Saves the Day

(53:41) Joining the Navy: A New Beginning

(58:20) Punk Rock and the Bad Brains

(01:02:22) Drug Bust and Going AWOL

(01:08:41) Life on the Run: Punk Scene and Street Fights

(01:14:05) Reconnecting with the Bad Brains

(01:15:16) Plant-Based Lifestyle and Sobriety

(01:18:19) Krishna Consciousness and Blood Clot Band

(01:24:30) Struggles with Addiction and Betrayal

(01:25:59) Life of Crime: Robberies and Escapes

(01:29:46) High-Speed Chase and Robbery

(01:32:01) Narrow Escape from the Police

(01:33:19) Plane Ride Panic

(01:35:45) Crack House Attack

(01:36:36) Path to Sobriety

(01:38:37) Family Tragedy and Addiction

(01:40:46) Confronting the Past

(01:46:21) Breaking the Cycle of Addiction

(01:48:14) Positive Obsessions and Endurance Sports

(01:50:34) Confronting Online Critics

(01:52:51) Music and New Projects

(02:11:08) Final Reflections and Farewell

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From Nightclubs to Federal Prison to Mr. Beast | Ian Bick Jan 07, 2026

Show notes

This week I sit down with Ian Bick — entrepreneur, storyteller, and podcast host, where he tells real stories of incarceration, redemption, and what change actually costs.

Ian became a nightclub owner as a teenager. Fast money. Bigger pressure. Debt. Gambling. Then the bottom fell out — and at 21, he was convicted of federal wire fraud and sent into the federal system.

He walks us through what people don’t understand: the difference between holding and prison, how quickly you get labeled, how prison politics really work, and the kind of humiliation that stays with you long after the sentence ends.

Then we get into the part nobody glamorizes — reentry. Regular jobs. Stigma. Restitution. Quiet accountability. And the long climb back that eventually led to building one of the fastest-growing justice-focused podcasts in the country.

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Ian Bick:

Website: https://www.ianbick.com/
Instagram: @ian_bick
YouTube: @ianbickCT
TikTok: @ianbick

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Chapters

(00:00) Introduction and Sentencing

(02:05) Life in Federal Holding

(06:26) Facing Misconceptions in Prison

(08:07) Adjusting to Prison Life

(15:50) Reflecting on the Past and Future

(20:38) The Business Ventures That Led to Trouble

(30:26) Podcasting and Paying Guests

(38:13) Back to Prison Life

(38:31) First Prison Experience

(38:54) Extortion and Survival

(43:26) Transfer Ordeal

(45:02) Life at Danbury

(47:50) Oxford Camp and Guard Incident

(53:59) Post-Prison Life and Career

(55:48) Podcasting Journey

(01:02:57) Mr. Beast Experience

(01:10:09) Future Plans and Reflections

(01:12:01) Conclusion and Farewell

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Bank Robber to Business Owner: Mike Lee (BeanShooter) Dec 31, 2025

Show notes

Mike Lee lived the kind of life that doesn’t end clean. Heroin. Bank robberies. Prison. Overdoses. A revolving door that kept spinning until it didn’t.

In this episode, Mike breaks down the real mechanics of addiction — the daily grind of staying high, staying ahead, and eventually getting cornered. He talks about methadone, getting followed, getting grabbed, and finally deciding to make a change.

Then the rebuild. A rehab flight to Florida. A sober date he still remembers. A custody fight he didn’t think he could win. Power washing. Roof shoveling. A roofing company. Sober houses. The slow, unsexy work of becoming reliable.

No fake redemption arc. Just choices. Reps. Consequences. And a life that looks nothing like the one he came from.

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Mike Lee (BeanShooter)

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Chapters

(00:00) Mickey Ward's Influence and Rehab Journey

(03:01) Early Life and Family Background

(04:25) First Encounters with Crime

(10:31) Life in Prison and Methadone Struggles

(11:23) Graduating to Hard Drugs

(15:02) Bank Robberies and Legal Troubles

(16:25) Experiences in Walpole Prison

(26:34) Mickey Ward's Boxing Career

(33:42) Struggles with Methadone

(35:12) The Turning Point: Getting Off Methadone

(36:54) Life in the Methadone Clinic

(37:08) A Chance for Rehab in Florida

(38:18) Legal Troubles and Police Surveillance

(43:17) The Redemption Story Begins

(46:50) Building a New Life: Roofing and Sober House

(01:04:17) Reflections on Sobriety and Success

(01:08:08) Closing Thoughts and Podcast Outro

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From Failing on the World Stage to Winning on It | Trey Hardee Dec 24, 2025

Show notes

This week’s episode is with Trey Hardee, a two-time World Champion in the decathlon and Olympic silver medalist.

Trey opens up about one of the most defining moments of his career: failing publicly on the Olympic stage, the shame that followed, and the surgery and rehab that forced him to confront whether he was really finished. We talk about what it takes to sit with failure instead of running from it — and how that process ultimately led him back to the podium.

This is a conversation about discipline, patience, and doing the work when no one’s watching — and what’s possible on the other side of hard.

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Trey Hardee

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Chapters

(00:00) Introduction and Guest Welcome

(00:02) The Best Athlete in the World

(00:37) Catching Up and Personal Reflections

(02:16) The High School Basketball Cut

(06:20) Transition to Pole Vaulting

(07:09) College Journey and Challenges

(14:37) Decathlon Beginnings

(23:38) The Grind and Consistency

(26:58) Overcoming Personal Challenges

(29:00) Mississippi State to Olympic Trials

(33:22) The Struggles of Early Athletic Career

(33:42) Transitioning to a New Coach and College

(34:18) Choosing Texas and Meeting Future Wife

(37:37) Parental Guidance and Personal Growth

(40:55) Training and Competing at Texas

(45:44) Injuries and Setbacks

(58:29) Turning Professional and Facing Challenges

(01:05:35) Embracing the Pressure and Enjoying the Journey

(01:05:51) Building Relationships and Offering Guidance

(01:06:36) The Role of Coaches in Major Competitions

(01:07:19) Facing Defeat and Overcoming Embarrassment

(01:08:37) Learning from Failure and Growing Stronger

(01:13:02) The Path to Becoming a World Champion

(01:17:02) Applying the Champion Mindset to Everyday Life

(01:20:44) The Road to the Olympics and Overcoming Injury

(01:30:14) Life After Competition and New Challenges

(01:35:40) Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Surviving a Texas Prison as an Innocent Man | Greg Kelley Dec 17, 2025

Show notes

Greg Kelley was a Texas high school football standout whose life was wrecked at 18 when he was wrongfully convicted of super aggravated sexual assault of a child and sentenced to 25 years with no possibility of parole. After years in some of the hardest Texas state prisons, a flawed investigation was exposed, his case was reopened by the Texas Rangers, and in 2019 he was fully exonerated by the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals.

Today he’s a husband, former Division I safety at Eastern Michigan, ultra runner, and founder of the Vindication Foundation, helping others fighting wrongful convictions.

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Greg Kelley

Website: https://thevindicationfoundation.com
Instagram: @grkelley2

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Chapters

(00:00) Introduction and Wrongful Conviction

(00:31) First Days in Prison

(02:23) Protective Custody and General Population

(05:06) Surviving Prison Life

(27:07) Faith and Hope in Adversity

(34:16) Family and Upbringing

(37:58) Reflecting on Childhood and Family Influence

(38:49) Puberty and Athletic Development

(39:51) High School Romance and Focus on Football

(40:46) Family Health Crises

(42:13) Living with a Friend's Family

(44:25) Jonathan's Troubling Behavior

(49:39) Accusations and Legal Troubles Begin

(01:03:15) Arrest and Initial Reactions

(01:13:19) Facing the In-Laws: A Heartfelt Confession

(01:15:11) The Shocking Accusation: A Life Turned Upside Down

(01:16:54) Support and Optimism Amidst Chaos

(01:18:20) The Alternative School Experience

(01:20:05) The Second Arrest: More Charges Surface

(01:35:58) The Plea Deal Dilemma

(01:41:21) The Trial: Fighting for Innocence

(01:52:39) Drifting Apart and Hidden Infatuations

(01:53:00) Conviction and Betrayal

(01:55:12) Writing Through Trauma

(01:58:49) The Justice System's Failures

(01:58:56) The Vindication Foundation

(01:59:51) The Appeal Process Begins

(02:09:57) The Role of Evidence in Proving Innocence

(02:11:22) Reinvestigation and New Evidence

(02:19:25) The Hearing and Hope for Freedom

(02:25:41) A Glimmer of Hope

(02:31:53) Breaking Free from Institutionalization

(02:32:48) The Moment of Release

(02:34:22) Emotional Reunion and Reflections

(02:36:16) Life After Exoneration

(02:38:45) Pursuing New Dreams

(02:43:54) Legal Battles and Vindication

(02:47:26) A New Beginning

(02:57:39) Final Thoughts and Future Plans

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Sobriety, Skate Culture & Second Chances | Mike Blabac Dec 10, 2025

Show notes

Mike Blabac is one of the most influential photographers in skateboarding and action sports. His work includes Danny Way’s iconic Great Wall of China jump, the rise of DC Shoes, and global campaigns with athletes like LeBron James and Usher.

In this episode, Mike shares his journey from a chaotic childhood in rural Ohio to becoming a defining photographer of modern skate culture. He opens up about years of living in chaos and drinking heavily, and how meeting neuroscientist Andrew Huberman became the turning point that pushed him to rebuild his health, career, and relationship with his kids.

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Mike Blabac

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Chapters

(00:00) Introduction: Who is Mike Blabac?
(00:23) Danny Way’s Great Wall of China jump
(03:06) The crash, broken foot and Chinese officials
(10:33) Growing up in rural Ohio
(18:21) Discovering photography as a kid
(24:04) Meeting skaters and working early jobs
(24:56) Moving to San Francisco at 19
(25:58) Skating Embarcadero and breaking into the scene
(31:49) Writing to Grant Brittain & first published photos
(45:36) Mad Circle, Girl, Chocolate & career foundations
(54:13) Joining DC Shoes & shooting global trips
(57:39) Ken Block, DC, and the birth of Gymkhana
(01:06:28) Airplane chaos with Colin
(01:16:03) Becoming comfortable in chaos
(01:27:11) Transition to commercial photography
(01:32:05) Drinking heavily while working nonstop
(01:34:58) Meeting Andrew Huberman & the turning point
(01:40:33) Sobriety, training and career momentum
(01:45:12) How sobriety changed his parenting
(01:53:11) Final reflections and lessons

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Pills, Pain & Fatherhood | Ken Rideout Dec 03, 2025

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This time I’m the guest. My friend, co-conspirator, and writer Mishka Shubaly turns the mic on me.

We go deep into my past—from the years I spent hiding an opioid addiction and living a double life in pharmaceutical sales and later on Wall Street, to the moment I finally chose my family over my vices.

Mishka traces the full arc of my story: the lies I told myself, the fear of getting comfortable, and the role endurance sports played in rebuilding my identity through hard work. We talk about honesty, identity, and how running became the tool I used to leave my old self behind.

This episode is a raw, honest look at addiction, accountability, endurance, and the ongoing work of becoming the person you’re trying to be.

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Ken Rideout

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Chapters

(00:00) Meeting in Person: A Year in the Making
(00:15) The Goby March: A Test of Endurance
(02:03) Preparation and Challenges
(03:46) Race Day Realities
(07:03) Mental and Physical Struggles
(13:00) Reflections on Addiction and Recovery
(18:42) The Drive to Keep Pushing
(24:06) Comradery and Competition
(34:55) Downhill Running and River Crossing
(35:46) Final Race and Victory
(36:50) Post-Race Reflections
(38:23) Competitive Mindset and Sobriety Journey
(40:01) Childhood and Athletic Drive
(41:18) Struggles with Addiction
(49:50) Financial Success and Imposter Syndrome
(1:08:06) Adoption and Sobriety
(1:14:00) The Turning Point: Quitting Pills for a New Life
(1:14:39) The Struggle and Triumph of Sobriety
(1:15:23) The Emotional Toll and the Path to Recovery
(1:16:18) Inspiration and Motivation: Comeback Stories
(1:16:48) The Mental Battle: Overcoming Addiction
(1:18:50) Managing Stress and Emotions in Sobriety
(1:19:34) The Role of Worry and Prayer
(1:20:05) Endurance and Athletic Brewing
(1:21:03) Addressing Criticism: From One Addiction to Another
(1:23:02) The Bond with Dogs and Running Motivation
(1:26:29) Triathlon Journey: From Novice to Competitor
(1:30:57) Lessons from Endurance Sports
(1:44:23) The Pursuit of Peace and Happiness
(1:45:48) Final Thoughts and Reflections

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Alcohol Addiction, 100-Mile Races & A Broken Back | Rich Roll Nov 26, 2025

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Rich Roll is a former Stanford swimmer and entertainment attorney whose life unraveled when alcoholism and unhealthy habits brought him to the brink of collapse. With two DUIs, a marriage that ended on the honeymoon, and lost friendships and family relationships, Rich finally faced enough pain to motivate change.

This is the story of Rich's reinvention through sobriety, plant-based nutrition, and an almost unbelievable immersion into endurance sports—transforming himself from an out-of-shape lawyer into one of the world's fittest men. His journey is an extraordinary example of personal responsibility, spiritual growth, and the power of incremental change.

Rich is now a bestselling author, leading podcaster, and wellness advocate. His numerous personal transformations, along with those of his guests on The Rich Roll Podcast, have inspired millions of people around the world.

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Chapters

(00:00) Introduction and Gratitude

(00:27) Reflecting on Impact and Purpose

(01:54) Discussing Hard Times and Overcoming Challenges

(02:56) The Dark Days of Alcoholism

(05:35) Consequences and Legal Troubles

(07:30) The Turning Point and Seeking Help

(10:23) Rehabilitation and Recovery Journey

(11:15) Facing the Reality of Addiction

(23:34) The Marriage That Wasn't Meant to Be

(32:05) The Path to Sobriety

(42:55) Reflecting on Life's Blessings

(43:54) Gratitude and Sobriety

(44:15) Helping Those Who Feel Stuck

(45:15) The Reality of Alcoholism

(45:49) Day-to-Day Survival in Sobriety

(46:43) Building a Foundation of Sobriety

(49:33) Endurance Sports as Therapy

(50:36) Struggles and Triumphs in Endurance Sports

(52:36) The Journey to Self-Acceptance

(01:01:23) Back Surgery and Recovery

(01:16:39) The Podcast Journey

(01:24:26) Final Thoughts and Encouragement

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Drugs, Robbery, A Life Sentence & Finding Redemption | Damon West Nov 19, 2025

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Damon West is a former Division I quarterback whose life spiraled out of control after he became addicted to drugs while working in finance. In May 2009, Damon was sentenced to 65 years in prison, which is considered a life sentence, for robberies he committed in the state of Texas.

This is the story of Damon's transformation while in prison and after. It's an incredible story of resilience and redemption.

Damon is now a bestselling author, college professor, philanthropist and a sought-after motivational speaker, working with Fortune 500 companies, schools and elite sports programs.

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Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction: First Day in Texas State Prison

00:04:32 Understanding Life Sentences and Prison Security Levels

00:07:18 The Heart Check: First Fight in Prison

00:11:23 Race and Gang Politics Behind Bars

00:14:20 Meeting Carlos: The First Cellmate

00:16:15 Fighting the White Gangs

00:21:42 Breaking a Mouse: Prison Manipulation Tactics

00:24:25 Learning to Fight: On-the-Job Training

00:28:13 Suicidal Thoughts and Finding Faith

00:30:01 The Basketball Court Strategy

00:37:11 Earning Respect Through Sports

00:46:07 The Blackjack Confrontation: Fight for Survival

00:48:08 The Coffee Bean Story Begins

00:54:02 Trial and Sentencing: 65 Years

00:57:37 Mohammed's Wisdom: Carrots, Eggs, and Coffee Beans

01:02:53 Clearing the Meth Haze: Early Recovery

01:09:56 Spirituality vs. Religion in Recovery

01:13:52 Judge Snipes: The Resentment That Held Me Back

01:19:42 Letting Go: The Four Absolutes

01:23:37 Finding Purpose: Teaching Inmates to Read

01:30:25 Early Life: College Football and the Fork in the Road

01:32:01 Introduction to Drugs and Addiction

01:35:58 The Uptown Burglar: Life of Crime

01:41:26 Stealing Cars and Playing Cat and Mouse

01:45:09 The Great Escape: Stealing from the Impound Lot

01:47:10 The Final Burglary: Stealing from a Gold Star Family

01:49:25 Arrest: The SWAT Team Raid

01:52:27 Making Parole: The Impossible Happens

01:57:06 Last Two Weeks: Marked Man

02:01:56 Walking Out: November 16, 2015

02:04:05 Early Freedom: Finding Service Work

02:06:31 Practicing the Presentation

02:08:04 The Night That Changed Everything: Meeting Dabo Swinney

02:11:01 Breaking Into College Football Speaking

02:12:17 The Coffee Bean Book Goes Global

02:14:20 Finding Mohammed's Family

02:17:46 Redemption: Becoming Useful

02:18:10 When Victims Reach Out

02:22:23 Forgiveness: The Ring and the Email

02:23:59 No Enemies: Freedom from Resentment

02:24:19 Final Thoughts: True Imprisonment

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