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    Religion & Spirituality

    Religion on the Mind

    Interviews with experts, writers, psychologists and more on the intersection between psychology, religion and spirituality… with a little bit of cussing.

    dan@religiononthemind.com

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    Latest Episodes:
    Creativity After Deconstruction (#291) Oct 14, 2024
    Show notes

    Musician Jayne Sugg joins the podcast to discuss her journey through faith deconstruction and its profound impact on her creative process. Raised in a charismatic, Pentecostal church where her family led worship, Jayne's faith and music were deeply intertwined from a young age. This deconstruction process resulted in a significant creative crisis as Jayne struggled to find authentic artistic expression outside the familiar framework of worship music. Her story illustrates the deep connection between belief systems and artistic expression, and how personal crises can catalyze artistic growth. Tune in to hear how Jayne ultimately rediscovered her musical voice by exploring new genres and perspectives.


    Jayne Sugg | Spotify

    Jayne's Website | jaynesugg.com


    Chapters:

    05:21 Navigating Post-Evangelical Christian Artistry

    33:27 Deconstruction in Worship Music

    53:24 Nurturing Creativity in Religious Communities

    01:10:30 The Impact of Disillusionment on Musical Development

    01:31:05 Cultural Influences on Musical Expression


    Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind

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    Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/

    Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!)

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    Purity Culture Regrets (YHP After Hours) (#290) Oct 10, 2024
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    In this special "after hours" episode of "You Have Permission," Dan and his old friend Lindsay share their biggest regrets from evangelical purity culture. They explore how this nonbiblical but influential sexual ethic affected both men and women during adolescence, acknowledging that women bore the brunt of its impact. Dan and Lindsay reminisce about cringeworthy memories, like bizarre sex ed object lessons and being used as "purity examples" in youth group. They discuss how purity culture shaped their limited sex education and filtered their understanding of sexuality and relationships. The conversation touches on the lasting effects of purity culture on mental health, physical well-being, and current relationships. The first half of this more personal and casual episode is available for free, with the deeper, more candid discussion reserved for Patrons.


    Lindsay's Website | www.stranniganandsons.com

    Lindsay on Instagram | @lindsaystrannigan


    Episode #187 with Lindsay | Walk Me Through: Jesus Movement Music '67-'79 (Part 1)


    Highlights

    05:55 Personal Regrets and Experiences

    12:08 The Impact of Purity Culture on Relationships

    18:09 Sex Education and Its Gaps

    23:55 Navigating Sexuality and Shame

    35:50 Health Consequences of Purity Culture



    Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind

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    Chat-GPT Enneagram Full Episode (Patreon Preview) Oct 08, 2024
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    This is a Patreon Preview | *The exclusive half starts around the 53 min mark*


    In this special episode, Dan brings together his "Big Five" friends—Tripp Fuller, Myron Penner, Sarah Concepcion, and Sarah Lane Ritchie—to playfully mock and critically examine the Enneagram. Dan introduces the "Danneagram," an AI-generated personality system, sparking a lively discussion that oscillates between humorous riffs on personality typing and serious critiques. The group debates the value of such systems, even if not scientifically valid, and covers other topics like birth order, religious anthropology, and even "Lord of the Rings" characters. Join in for a thought-provoking and entertaining dive into the allure and limitations of personality assessments.


    Previous Enneagram Episodes:

    Ep #101 | Is the Enneagram Real?

    Ep #161 | The Enneagram Doesn't Hold Up


    Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind

    ___________________________________________

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    Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/

    Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!)

    Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch

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    The Psychology of… Reality TV?! (#289) Oct 07, 2024
    Show notes

    Dr. Kirk Honda of Psychology in Seattle returns to discuss the intersection of psychology and popular media. We explore the world of reality TV through a psychological lens, where Dr. Honda makes a compelling case for using these shows as tools for psychoeducation and cultural insight. According to him, even heavily edited content can serve as a springboard for discussing broader psychological concepts. From relationship dynamics in "Love is Blind" to personality assessments discussed during the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard trial, we examine how popular culture can be leveraged to increase psychological literacy among the public. This conversation offers a fresh perspective on the potential of reality TV as a vehicle for understanding human behavior and mental health, demonstrating how clinicians and educators can engage thoughtfully with popular media to foster greater psychological awareness.


    Highlights

    02:56 The Role of Movies in Personal Development

    11:55 The Intersection of Therapy and Media Representation

    23:52 The Ethics of Reality TV and Therapy


    Previous Episode with Kirk:

    Episode 88 | Secular Therapy's Religion Blind Spot


    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/you-have-permission/id1448000113?i=1000491974985


    Kirk's Past Episodes:


    Kirk's Podcast | Psychology In Seattle Podcast

    Kirk's YouTube Channel | Psychology in Seattle

    Psychology In Seattle Website | psychologyinseattle.com


    Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind

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    Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/

    Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!)

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    Dan Made His Own Enneagram (#288) Sep 30, 2024
    Show notes

    In this special episode, Dan brings together his "Big Five" friends—Tripp Fuller, Myron Penner, Sarah Concepcion, and Sarah Lane Ritchie—to playfully mock and critically examine the Enneagram. Dan introduces the "Danneagram," an AI-generated personality system, sparking a lively discussion that oscillates between humorous riffs on personality typing and serious critiques. The group debates the value of such systems, even if not scientifically valid, and covers other topics like birth order, religious anthropology, and even "Lord of the Rings" characters. Join in for a thought-provoking and entertaining dive into the allure and limitations of personality assessments.


    Previous Enneagram Episodes:

    Ep #101 | Is the Enneagram Real?

    Ep #161 | The Enneagram Doesn't Hold Up


    Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind

    ___________________________________________

    Get Tickets for the PREGAME EVENT before Theology Beer Camp!

    Get Tickets for Theology Beer Camp 2024

    Use Code ReturnofYHP for $50 off your ticket!

    ___________________________________________

    Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/

    Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch

    Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/

    Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!)

    Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch

    Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com

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    The Still Christian Hosts Are… Still Christian (#287) Sep 23, 2024
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    In this week's episode, I sit down with Katelyn Dixon and Sarah Almodovar, co-hosts of the Still Christian podcast, for another installment in my Still Christian series. We explore our diverse religious backgrounds and experiences questioning faith, from Katie's "dark night of the soul" to Sarah's period of rebellion in New York City. We also discussed the idea of "undeniable" spiritual experiences. Drawing from my philosophy background, I propose a more nuanced approach to these experiences, suggesting we treat them as important data points in our spiritual lives rather than irrefutable proof. While our approaches to faith differ — with Katie and Sarah emphasizing personal, subjective experiences and my leaning towards a more analytical view — this conversation showcases the presence of diversity within Christian spirituality and the value of open, engaging dialogue about faith.


    In the patron-only second half of the episode, we dive deeper into the role of suffering in faith, different approaches to religion, the interplay between art and faith, and our shared experience of hosting podcasts about Christianity in contemporary contexts. Join or log on to your Patreon account to hear the full, ad-free version of this episode.


    Highlights

    09:08 Dark Nights of the Soul

    11:57 Questioning Christian Identity

    14:49 Experiences of God's Presence

    17:53 Spiritual Experiences and Interpretation

    20:48 The Intersection of Faith and Modern Life


    Katelyn and Sarah's Podcast | Still Christian


    Still Christian Instagram | @stillchristianpodcast


    Sarah's Yoga Page | sarahjoalmo.com


    Katelyn's Website and Writing Page | katelynjdixon.com


    Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind

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    Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/

    Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!)

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    Changing Minds about Women in Ministry (#286) Sep 16, 2024
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    John and Linn Haralson discuss their journey from complementarianism to egalitarianism regarding women in ministry. As long-time members of their church community, I've witnessed their progression firsthand, making this behind-the-scenes look particularly interesting. We explore the complexities of changing deeply held beliefs within a marriage and church leadership context. Lynn shares how events like the Charleston massacre in 2016 catalyzed her shift in perspective, while John describes his more gradual journey, influenced by leaving the PCA and reading William Witt's "Icons of Christ." The couple candidly discussed their "don't ask, don't tell" period and the personal costs of their former beliefs. We also delve into the challenges of guiding a congregation through such a significant doctrinal change, including the anxiety preceding the church vote and the intentional process of education and discussion. Their story illuminates how changing one's mind on theological issues is a deeply personal process affecting relationships, community dynamics, and individual spiritual journeys.


    Highlights:

    05:14 Different Perspectives on Gender Roles

    19:42 The Cost of Changing Beliefs

    35:24 Living with Complementarianism within Marriage

    59:03 Validating Grief and Loss within Complementarian Beliefs



    John and Linn's Church | graceseattle.org

    Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind

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    Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/

    Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!)

    Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch

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    The Six Facets of Spiritual Health (#285) Sep 09, 2024
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    In this episode, I welcomed back Dr. Pam Ebstyne King to discuss her framework of six facets for spiritual health. We focused on "transcendence and spirituality," where Pam expanded on Dr. Lisa Miller's definition to include not just experiencing something beyond oneself, but also responding to it. This resonated deeply with me, prompting thoughts on evolving my two-item model of spirituality and religiosity into a three-item model including transcendence. Pam's research on "spiritual exemplars" illustrated how individuals allow transcendent experiences to shape their identity, beliefs, and actions. This conversation sparked ideas about a more holistic model of spiritual life, acknowledging the initial experience of transcendence, the personal spiritual journey, and the communal religious practices that often follow.


    Highlights

    09:13 Six Facets of Spiritual Health

    19:30 Transcendence and Spirituality

    23:13 Habits and Rhythms

    25:59 Relationships and Community

    30:45 Vocation and Purpose

    35:49 Identity and Narrative

    41:49 Ethics and Virtues


    Pam's Thrive Center | thethrivecenter.org

    Pam's Podcast | With & For

    Past YHP Episode with Pam King:

    #129 | Religion, Virtue & Human Thriving


    Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind

    ___________________________________________

    Get Tickets for the PREGAME EVENT before Theology Beer Camp!

    Get Tickets for Theology Beer Camp 2024

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    ___________________________________________

    Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/

    Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch

    Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/

    Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!)

    Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch

    Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com

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    A Teen Witch with a Jesuit Dad (#284) Sep 03, 2024
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    In the second episode of our series of conversations with comedians about religion and spirituality, comedian Maggie Lally joined me to share her genuinely unique religious experiences and how they inform her comedy and worldview.


    From a sheltered Catholic upbringing by a former Jesuit priest to becoming a “teen witch” in adolescence, Maggie was raised with a sense of spiritual openness that she still carries with her today. We discussed all the various therapeutic approaches she has experienced (including one who inspired a comedy bit about “overly empathetic white female therapists”) and connected on the practice of centering prayer.


    Highlights

    06:33 The Journey of Maggie's Father: From Jesuit to Family Man

    36:33 The Impact of Teenage Witchcraft

    43:38 The Role of Therapy and Spiritual Direction

    50:31 Cultivating a Meditation Practice

    01:00:23 Exploring Spirituality and Religion


    Maggie's Linktree


    Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind

    ___________________________________________

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    Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/

    Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!)

    Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch

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    The Nicene Creed (#283) Aug 27, 2024
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    In this follow-up to our discussion on the Apostle's Creed, Thomas Jay Oord and I delve into the Nicene Creed, examining its history, language, and theology through a progressive Christian lens. We grapple with complex concepts like the Trinity, the nature of Christ, and the Holy Spirit, questioning traditional interpretations and exploring how our diverse backgrounds shape our understanding of these ideas. While acknowledging the historical significance of the Creed, we also confront the challenge of interpreting ancient texts in a modern context. Our conversation highlights the tension between appreciating theological tradition and prioritizing practical expressions of faith that address contemporary issues. Ultimately, we reflect on the value of critically engaging with our religious heritage to cultivate a faith that is both historically grounded and relevant to today's world.


    Highlights

    00:00 Introduction and Recap of Previous Episode

    03:14 The Role of Theology: Faith Seeking Understanding

    11:50 The Limitations of Language in Theological Discourse

    19:10 Decoding the Language of the Nicene Creed

    23:57 The Tension Between Theological Precision and Language


    Tom's Previous Episode list:

    #7 | To Change Your Mind: Healing Prayer

    #23 | To Be a Postmodern Christian

    #42 | Is the "Supernatural" Actually Just Natural?


    Matthew Novenson Episode on "Pneuma:

    #163 | Apocalyptic Expectations, the Resurrection & More


    Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind

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    Get Tickets for Theology Beer Camp 2024

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    Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/

    Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!)

    Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch

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