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With the election in just two days, Sam recaps essential points on refusing fascism in the event of various scenarios that may arise over the next few days and weeks. While there is much that we do not know about what will happen on Tuesday and after, we do know this: fascism is never legitimate. No election, fair or fraudulent, can legitimize a fascist regime. Join the online forum: Refuse Fascism Responds to the 2024 Election Friday, Nov 8 at 8PM ET. Sign-up to join us: https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_FvJFMP5qSZO1pDEWtLaCxA
Then, Sam talks with Robert P. Jones, president and founder of Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI). His latest book is The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy. Check out Dr. Jones' writing at www.whitetoolong.net and listen to The Convocation Unscripted podcast on YouTube or follow on Substack: convocation.substack.com
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Paul Street and Andy Zee joined Refuse Fascism host Sam Goldman for an online forum informed by listener questions on October 25, 2024 sponsored by Refuse Fascism and The RNL - Revolution Nothing Less - Show. We're sharing excerpts from the forum which can be watched in its entirety on YouTube. Follow Paul Street at paulstreet.substack.com.
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Friday, 10/25 at 6pm PT / 9pm ET join us for a livestreamed forum with Paul Street, Andy Zee and Sam Goldman, The 2024 Elections: The Future Hangs In the Balance, sponsored by Refuse Fascism and The RNL - Revolution Nothing Less - Show. Follow @RefuseFascism on social media to tune in and send your questions ahead of time to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org.
This episode is in response to the (very belated) warnings coming from Democratic Party and military leaders that Trump is (in the words of Trump's former top general Mark Milley) "a fascist to the core."
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Featuring:
Jeff Sharlet - Episode 31 (11/29/20)
Jason Stanley - Episode 20 (10/4/20)
Michael Coard - Episode 12 (8/9/20)
Coco Das - Episode 54 (4/11/21)
Walden Bello - Episode 61 (5/30/21)
Thomas Zimmer - Episode 92 (1/2/22)
Annika Brockschmidt - Episode 103 (3/20/22)
Andy Zee - Episode 32 (12/10/20)
Federico Finchelstein - Episode 49 (3/7/21)
Jared Yates Sexton - Episode 6 (6/28/20)
Henry Giroux - Episode 42 (1/24/21)
Anthony DiMaggio - Episode 108 (4/24/22)
Wajahat Ali - Episode 140 (12/31/22)
Anthea Butler - Episode 91 (12/26/21)
Bradley Onishi - Episode 140 (12/31/22)
Dahlia Lithwick - Episode 91 (12/26/21)
Ruth Ben Ghiat - Episode 3 (6/7/20)
Umair Haque - Episode 48 (2/28/21)
Jeff Sharlet - Episode 150 (3/26/23)
Jared Yates Sexton - Episode 91 (12/26/21)
Brynn Tannehill - Episode 57 (5/2/21)
Thomas Zimmer - Episode 92 (1/2/22)
Wendy Via - Episode 179 (11/19/23)
One month to go before the election, what's happening? Elon + X going all out to get Trump back in power, mass deportation plans, nakedly Nazi justifications for those horrific plans, voter rolls being purged, multiple climate-change fueled storms pummeling the southeast with storms of disinformation and death threats against meteorologists following, and more. The new apostolic march on Washington this past week called this election "America's last stand" - Sam discusses all this, then talks with Nick Quested, the filmmaker who embedded himself with the Proud Boys for the new documentary 64 Days (64daysfilm.com), which covers the period from the November 2020 election to the January 6, 2021 insurrection.
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As we enter the final month before the November 2024 presidential election, Sam recaps recent developments including Jack Smith's recent court filing detailing the 2020 Trump coup attempt, the fascist disinformation campaign that is actively harming people in need of help and accurate information in the wake of Hurricane Helene while somehow blaming Democrats and more than anything, immigrants, for this climate-fueled destruction, and of course the "eyeliner on a pig" fascism on display during the Walz/Vance debate.
These recent developments set the stage for another heavy conversation about the parallels between Trump's rhetoric and the broader fascist movements plans for mass deportation and "one really violent hour" to Kristallnacht, the Nazi-led pogrom that marked a key turning point in the Holocaust. To discuss this she speaks with Zoltán Grossman, author of Lessons of Kristallnacht, “Civil War,” and Mass Deportation. Dr. Grossman is Professor of Geography and Native American and Indigenous Studies, The Evergreen State College, Olympia, Washington. Read more of his work at sites.evergreen.edu/zoltan.
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Sam discusses the cruel and nakedly fascist “mass deportation” plank of both Project 2025 and the official GOP platform. Then, she talks with Dr. Alberto Toscano, author of Late Fascism: Race, Capitalism and the Politics of Crisis. Robin D. G. Kelley writes: "Late Fascism is brilliant, incisive, and right on time. We are living through a moment when the "F" word is no longer taboo and the threat of fascism lurks everywhere. And yet, so mired in debates over definitions, typologies, and analogies that our understanding of fascism remains elusive. Alberto Toscano avoids this trap by turning to anti-fascist thinkers, whose groundings in anticolonial, antiracist, and anticapitalist struggles remind us that liberalism is no enemy of fascism, and fascists flower in the hot house of capitalism."
Follow Dr. Toscano's work at sfu.ca and read his articles at inthesetimes.com.
Patrons! This month's discussion has been rescheduled to October 13 at 3pm ET / 12pm PT. Details are on Patreon - be sure to watch the War Game film ahead of time: wargamefilm.com.
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Sam recaps recent developments including the escalating impact on the community of Springfield, Ohio from JD Vance’s Hitlerian lies about immigrants there, the Republican Party that is made up of “Black Nazis” like Mark Robinson, the fascist organizing at the level of the Georgia state election board to find ways to throw the election to Trump in November, plus the heartbreaking stories that are starting to come out as maternal mortality review committees uncover cases of women who did not need to die but were denied life-saving abortion care because of bans in their states post-Dobbs.
Then, she talks with Josh Cowen, author of The Privateers: How Billionaires Created a Culture War and Sold School Vouchers, about the anti-public school movement which is a key plank of Project 2025 and Agenda 47; who is behind this movement and what their true aims and the actual outcomes are.
Follow Josh’s work at @joshcowenMSU and josh-cowen.com and order the book here.
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Sam recaps recent events including the lynch mob atmosphere being whipped up against immigrants in general and Black Haitian immigrants in particular after white supremacists in Ohio started vicious lies against Haitians. These lies have been further amplified by J.D. Vance and Donald Trump including from the national debate stage with Kamala Harris this past week.
Unfortunately these recent events couldn’t be more timely alongside this week’s discussion with Sasha Abramsky, author of the new book Chaos Comes Calling: The Battle Against the Far-Right Takeover of Small-Town America. From Eric Klinenberg :“In this chilling report from the American West, Abramsky shows how the extreme right has mobilized to upend local democratic institutions and warns of a fascist threat that’s alarmingly close and widespread. A disturbing, necessary book.”
Follow Sasha on X-Twitter at @abramskysasha and learn more about his work at sashaabramsky.com and thenation.com
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Sam recaps recent events and then talks with Paul Street about the GOP's unfolding plans to suppress the vote, intimidate their opposition (including by raiding extremely mainstream activists in Texas with LULAC [The League of Latin American Citizens] and sending police to the homes of people signing pro-abortion rights petitions in Florida), and unleash violence at multiple levels should Trump be declared the loser in November. In response to all this the Democrats are celebrating... the addition of Dick Cheney to their "big tent."
Paul writes, "The nation is careening to some kind of constitutional crisis and potential major civil conflict after the next election. Anarchic US capitalism-imperialism has hatched a two-party system whose right-/Reich-most wing no longer accepts defeat through mere elections, no matter how tilted to the right the nation’s electoral rules are... [and yet] There is liberating opportunity as well as eliminationist and authoritarian menace in the current perilous moment."
Follow Paul Street's writings at paulstreet.substack.com.
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Sam talks with returning guest Annika Brockschmidt about the ideology that binds Trump's GOP. Brockschmidt is a trained historian, author and journalist. She wrote two bestselling books on the history of the US religious right and the Republican Party. Follow Annika on BlueSky. German-speaking audiences can read her latest book Die Brandstifter: Wie Extremisten die Republikanische Partei übernahmen and listen to her on the two podcasts she hosts Kreuz und Flagge and Feminist Shelf Control.
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Sam discusses the joy fest during the DNC and the growing gulf between those who think you can stop fascism in the US while still enabling a genocide in Gaza, and those who think that is completely incompatible. Cheers to all the protesters at the DNC for telling the truth this past week. Follow @uncommittedmvmt on TikTok for the voices clipped in today's episode.
Then, she talks with Stephen Eisenman, Professor Emeritus of Art History at Northwestern University. He has a forthcoming book out with artist collaborator Sue Coe titled The Young Person’s Illustrated Guide to American Fascism (available in October; preorder now). Eisenman is also the author of numerous articles and nine books including The Abu Ghraib Effect and The Ecology of Impressionism. Eisenman is also a curator, critic, activist and co-founder of the environmental non-profit, Anthropocene Alliance. He is a regular contributor to the online publication CounterPunch. View Sue Coe's artwork at suecoe.com and follow her on Instagram at @suecoeart.
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This week, Sam discusses recent developments including Project 2025 Phase 2, the efforts of Republi-Fascists to subvert elections and the Democratic National Convention's approach to combating fascism (is it weird or is it fascism?).
She then welcomes Sian Norris back on the show to discuss the fascist riots in the UK that targeted asylum seekers and Muslims following a lethal mass stabbing in Southport England. Sian Norris is a senior investigative reporter at openDemocracy (read her work here) and author of Bodies Under Siege: How the Far-Right Attack on Reproductive Rights Went Global. You can follow Sian on X @sianunshka.
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Biden's out of the race and many people are feeling more optimistic about Kamala Harris beating Trump in the election... Sam comments about the new situation, what dangers lie ahead and what we can rely on to stop fascism and build a better world.
Then, Sam talks with Graie Hagans, Chief Vision Officer with Bend the Arc: Jewish Action about the roots and origins of antisemitism, the current dangers and complex dynamics of the moment in the US and how Jewish communities and individuals can truly be kept safe in an era of rising antisemitism. Check out their guide on how to talk about antisemitism "like we believe we can end it together" at dismantlingantisemitism.org.
Extra relevant this week as the fascist president of Israel addressed a joint session of Congress this week, read the open letter to Biden:
Cheers to Jewish Voice for Peace and everyone who mobilized to protest Netanyahu this week! Read:
“Not in Our Name”: 400 Jewish Activists Arrested Protesting Netanyahu Address
A guide to the Jewish and Israeli groups that protested Netanyahu’s DC visit
*Note, there will be no new episodes for a couple weeks, but we will be back! Tune in August 18.
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This week Sam shares commentary on the fascist spectacle that was the RNC along with other recent developments and how and why we must resolutely oppose fascism. Then, Sam talks with Karl Folk, a researcher of authoritarianism and radicalization and the founder of the Institute of Unreality. He writes for Splinter News on their authoritarianism and American politics team. Read his latest: The Nefarious Figures Behind the Far-Right Who Predate Trump. You can find him on X and Bluesky @brainnotonyet.
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Five things to know about J.D. Vance’s ties to tech billionaires by Bobby Allyn (NPR)
This Land Is Mein Land by John Ganz
Breaking News Re-Release: "Hillbilly Elegy" - If Books Could Kill podcast
JD Vance on Abortion by Jessica Valenti
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This episode features interviews from the past two intense weeks... first Sam discusses recent events and updates from the intensifying situation in the US.
Then, we share two interviews: first with Aziza Ahmed to discuss the implications of two years without Roe and recent SCOTUS rulings on abortion rights. Aziza is a professor of law at Boston University where she also serves as the Co-Founder and Director of the BU Program on Reproductive Justice. Follow Aziza's work at bu.edu/law/profile/aziza-ahmed.
Then, Sam talks with returning guest and prolific commentator Wajahat Ali about Trump, the recent vile slate of SCOTUS decisions including the declaration that the president is a king, and the deteriorating situation in Gaza as the US-backed Israeli siege drags on with no end in sight. Follow Wajahat at thelefthook.substack.com and @wajahatali.
TOMORROW: The Coalition to March on the RNC is planning a major march and rally on the first day of the RNC in Milwaukee, WI on July 15, 2024. Rally at 11 AM CST in Red Arrow Park: marchonrnc2024.org
Recommended:
The breaking news consumer's handbook from On the Media
Abortion, Every Day by Jessica Valenti
Experts: Georgia GOP officials lay groundwork to "obstruct" and "subvert" election certification by Tatyana Tandanpolie
Trump v. United States episode of the 5-4 podcast
Special Coverage on NATCON 2024 by Annika Brockschmidt and Ben Lorber for Religion Dispatches
Inside Ziklag, the Secret Organization of Wealthy Christians Trying to Sway the Election and Change the Country by Andy Kroll, for ProPublica, and Nick Surgey, for Documented
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Sam discusses the pivotal decision from the fascist-dominated Supreme Court to grant Trump permission to commit crimes through the immunity ruling this past year with historian Paul Street, along with the slew of other terrible rulings. Of course while this ruling would seem to green-light the current president to act as a king unbound by any rule over his “official acts,” the Biden administration and Congressional Democrats did not announce any action in response to this chilling marker on the slide towards fascism. Read and listen to more from Paul Street at https://paulstreet.substack.com/
Then, she talks with HuffPost reporter Matt Shuham about his latest article, “Schedule F: The 'Chilling' Trump Plan That Could Pave The Way For Authoritarianism.” Schedule F is the mechanism referenced in Project 2025 that will allow the widescale replacement of civll servants with Trump loyalists throughout government. Follow Matt on Twitter/Threads/BlueSky/Mastodon at @mattshuham and read more of his work at https://www.huffpost.com/author/matt-shuham and https://gatheringstring.substack.com/
*This episode was recorded and uploaded prior to the second round of French elections.
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The Supreme Court Puts Trump Above the Law by Adam Serwer
American Midnight: The Great War, a Violent Peace, and Democracy's Forgotten Crisis
Illiberal America: A History by Steven Hahn
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Sam Goldman recaps the events of this past week including the totally illegitimate "debate" debacle between Trump and Biden, plus the slew of despotic rulings from the Trump's unelected "Supreme" Court.
Then, Sam interviews legal scholar and author Aziz Rana to take a deeper look at U.S. Constitution and its veneration to understand how it has supported the rise and preservation of Trump. He currently serves as Provost’s Distinguished Fellow and J. Donald Monan, S.J., University Professor of Law and Government at Boston College Law School. His latest book, The Constitutional Bind: How Americans Came to Idolize a Document that Fails Them, explores the modern emergence of constitutional veneration in the twentieth century. You can connect with Aziz and find more of his work at azizrana.com.
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March on the RNC in Milwaukee, WI July 15
The Constitution Won’t Save Us From Trump by Aziz Rana
The Supreme Court Chooses to Throw January 6 Rioters a Bone by Madiba K. Dennie
The Supreme Court just lit a match and tossed it into dozens of federal agencies by Ian Millhiser
Why the Leaked SCOTUS Ruling Isn't a Victory by Jessica Valenti
The Originalism Trap With Madiba K. Dennie
The Freedom to Dominate with Jefferson Cowie
The Draft Proposal Constitution For The New Socialist Republic In North America
We Are Witnessing the Biggest Judicial Power Grab Since 1803 by Elie Mystal
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This week Sam shares commentary on the second anniversary of the overturn of Roe & the stripping away of the federal protection of abortion rights. Then she welcomes Madiba K. Dennie back on the show to discuss originalism as the underlying theory behind some of the worst recent Supreme Court decisions. Madiba is the Deputy Editor and Senior Contributor at Balls & Strikes and author of The Originalism Trap: How Extremists Stole the Constitution and How We The People Can Take It Back. You can follow Madiba on X-Twitter @AudreLawdAMercy (and audrelawdamercy on Bluesky).
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Refuse Fascism episode 197 with Merle Hoffman: Choices: A Post-Roe Abortion Rights Manifesto
Refuse Fascism episode 205: Bad Faith: Christian Nationalism’s Unholy War on Democracy
Anatomy of a Christian Nationalist Strategy: Ten Commandments in Louisiana by Sarah Posner
Supreme Court Rules Against Married Couple in Blow to Immigrant Families by Mike Ludwig, Truthout
The US supreme court’s rightwing justices are fighting legal monsters of their making by Moira Donegan, The Guardian
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The Court Is Wrong; Color-Blindness Serving White Supremacy
This week Mark Tinkleman guest hosts the pod, covering SCOTUS decisions on the abortion medication mifepristone as well as gun control, Trump’s support from powerful people, the Southern Baptist Convention's attack on IVF, and a listener’s feedback.
Then Sam welcomes researcher Teddy Wilson back on to discuss how the MAGA movement is weaving Trump's conviction and Jan. 6 into a lore of violence and victimization. They discuss the historical similarities between the events surrounding Jan. 6th and other episodes of political violence in American history and understanding the roots of the US fascist movement.
Follow Teddy's Substack, Radical Reports and listen to his new podcast “Insurrectionist Cookbook."
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Mentioned In This Episode:
There’s a Time Bomb Hidden In the Supreme Court’s Abortion Pills Decision by Madiba Dennie on Balls and Strikes
The Right’s Politics of Revenge by Thomas Zimmer
Related Interviews:
Teddy Wilson on the Metastasizing Fascist Base
Teddy Wilson: Fascist Violence Accelerated
The Convicted Felon & “Day One” Dictator
Ian Millhiser on Trump’s Trials + Paul Street on Jan 6 Anniversary
Sam interviews filmmaker Stephen Ujlaki about his latest film Bad Faith: Christian Nationalism's Unholy War on Democracy. This feature-length documentary is available for streaming on Apple TV+, Amazon Prime, Google Play & YouTube. See trailer here. For information about the film, including a listing of screenings & how to organize a screening in your community visit badfaithdocumentary.com.
From the Variety review of the film:
"The Christian Nationalist movement was the driving force behind the January 6 insurrection, and what we saw there was a preview of their ideals and methods: a frothing hostility toward the U.S. government, coupled with the willingness to use violence. Russell Moore, the editor of Christianity Today, talks about how the new wave of Christianity is “a church growth movement, but for angry people. A sense of theatrical anger feels, to some, like depth of conviction.” Yet even on Jan. 6, these “rebels,” participating in their own form of action-movie cosplay, were, like Trump himself, at least somewhat constrained. What “Bad Faith” captures is that Christian Nationalists now have the potential to be the shock troops in a second and far more threatening Trump presidency."
Plus, Sam discusses the increasingly dire situation for women across the country where abortion has been banned, the latest developments for immigrants, the perfidious US-Israeli war crime that just killed 200 Palestinian civilians, and more.
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Post-Dobbs, Abortion Bans Have Given Abusers a New Power by Kylie Cheung for Jezebel
Implausible Deniability Republicans know exactly what abortion bans are doing by Jessica Valenti
The Theocratic Blueprint for Trump’s Next Term by Chris Lehman for The Nation
Refuse Fascism Podcast Ep 98 Anne Nelson: Media, Money, & the Secret Hub of the Radical Right
Refuse Fascism Podcast Ep 93 Samuel Perry: Christian Nationalist Violence Post January 6
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Sam discusses the historic guilty verdict that was just rendered by a jury against Trump this past week (34 felonies for falsifying business records to cover up hush money payments to Stormy Daniels, all for the purposes of ensuring his illegitimate election in 2016), along with the slew of unhinged fascist threats and rants that have come in the aftermath of the verdict.
Then, as this guilty verdict has in no way stopped his campaign for power again, she talks with two contributors to the June issue of The New Republic titled What American Fascism Would Look Like. Emmanuel Guerisoli discusses his essay The “Day One” Dictatorship (co-authored by Federico Finchelstein). Emmanuel is postdoctoral fellow at the Zolberg Institute on Migration and Mobility at the New School. He can be followed at @emmaGuerisoli.
Then, Francisco Goldman discusses his essay From Texas to Massachusetts: On the border in a fascist America. Francisco is a novelist and journalist. His most recent novel is Monkey Boy, a Pulitzer Prize finalist. He can be followed on ex-Twitter at @PacoGoldman or on Instagram @franciscogoldman.
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Escalator Redux by Jeff Sharlet (Scenes From a Slow Civil War)
The United States Looks Like a Sick Joke, The Paul Street Report
Trump’s Online MAGA Army Calls Guilty Verdict a Declaration of War by Tess Owen for Wired
“Make Them Pay”—The Far Right Responds to Trump’s Conviction By Kiera Butler for Mother Jones
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This American Fascism: A Retrospective
The Freedom to Dominate with Jefferson Cowie
Sam interviews historian Dr. Jefferson Cowie, author of Freedom’s Dominion: A Saga of White Resistance to Federal Power (winner of the 2023 Pulitzer Prize). Jeff serves as the James G. Stahlman Chair in the Department of History at Vanderbilt University. He was recently honored with a 2024 Guggenheim Fellowship - in part, in anticipation of his upcoming project, tentatively titled Crosswinds of a Common History. You can find more of Jeff's writing including information on his other three books here.
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Refuse Fascism episode 181: The Evangelical Prophets Anointing Trump with Matthew D. Taylor
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This week Sam Goldman (@SamBGoldman) and Coco Das (@Coco_Das) have a wide ranging conversation with Dr. Clarence Lusane and Sunsara Taylor over what it will take to stop fascism in the United States. We discuss the 2024 elections in the context of the prospect of civil war, the genocide in Gaza and the uprising to stop it, the threat of today's wars spiraling out of control, the nature of the fascist threat, and the possibility of wrenching a better future out of this moment.
Dr. Clarence Lusane is a political science professor and interim political science department chair at Howard University, and independent expert to the European Commission Against Racism and Intolerance. HIs latest book is Twenty Dollars and Change: Harriet Tubman and the Ongoing Fight for Racial Justice and Democracy. Read more from Dr. Lusane here
Sunsara Taylor (@SunsaraTaylor) is the co-host of the RNL (Revolution Nothing Less) Show on YouTube. She helped initiate Refuse Fascism in the aftermath of the election of Trump. Sunsara led tens of thousands into the streets against the overturn of Roe v Wade w/ RiseUp4AbortionRights.
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown
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The Cataclysm of a Second Trump Term
Sam discusses the events of this past week including Trump's trials (including what's getting prosecuted and what's being postponed indefinitely), the escalating genocide in Gaza as the Israeli military started to invade Rafah and the ongoing bravery of students across the country who continue to demand an end to this genocide.
Then, we share an interview with acclaimed historian and returning guest Dr. Federico Finchelstein to discuss his latest book The Wannabe Fascists: A Guide to Understanding the Greatest Threat to Democracy. Dr. Finchelstein serves as Professor of History at the New School for Social Research and Eugene Lang College in New York City. He is also the author of From Fascism to Populism in History (published 2017/2019) A Brief History of Fascist Lies, (published in 2020) and Fascist Mythologies The History and Politics of Unreason in Borges, Freud, and Schmitt (published in 2022). Follow him on Twitter at @FinchelsteinF.
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We're sharing a round-up of excerpts from interviews over the past four years with 20 experts on fascism. If you want to know "what is US fascism in this century" or "who are the fascists in America" or "where did fascism in the US come from" - this is your crash course (and it's episode 200!).
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How Far Trump Would Go by Eric Cortalessa (Time)
Featuring:
Jeff Sharlet - Episode 31 (11/29/20)
Jason Stanley - Episode 20 (10/4/20)
Michael Coard - Episode 12 (8/9/20)
Coco Das - Episode 54 (4/11/21)
Walden Bello - Episode 61 (5/30/21)
Thomas Zimmer - Episode 92 (1/2/22)
Annika Brockschmidt - Episode 103 (3/20/22)
Andy Zee - Episode 32 (12/10/20)
Federico Finchelstein - Episode 49 (3/7/21)
Jared Yates Sexton - Episode 6 (6/28/20)
Henry Giroux - Episode 42 (1/24/21)
Anthony DiMaggio - Episode 108 (4/24/22)
Wajahat Ali - Episode 140 (12/31/22)
Anthea Butler - Episode 91 (12/26/21)
Bradley Onishi - Episode 140 (12/31/22)
Dahlia Lithwick - Episode 91 (12/26/21)
Ruth Ben Ghiat - Episode 3 (6/7/20)
Umair Haque - Episode 48 (2/28/21)
Jeff Sharlet - Episode 150 (3/26/23)
Jared Yates Sexton - Episode 91 (12/26/21)
Brynn Tannehill - Episode 57 (5/2/21)
Thomas Zimmer - Episode 92 (1/2/22)
Wendy Via - Episode 179 (11/19/23)
It’s been one of those weeks… Sam shares commentary on the wildly fascist logic coming from the Supreme Court this past week (the president is likely immune from prosecution for the attempted coup in Jan 2021, and federal law will likely no longer require emergency rooms to provide life-saving abortions…), the wave of repression sweeping American universities against the courageous students and professors continuing to demand an end to the US-supported genocide in Gaza waged by Israel, plus notes on the indictments released by Arizona against a who’s who list of fascists including the fake electors who attempted to substitute themselves during the 2020 coup attempt.
Then, she talks with Tom Schaller, co-author (along with Paul Waldman) of White Rural Rage. Schaller is a professor of political science at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County. A former columnist for The Baltimore Sun, he has written for The New York Times, The Washington Post, and the Los Angeles Times. He is the author or co-author of four other books.
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Donald Trump had a fantastic day in the Supreme Court today by Ian Millhiser for Vox
The Crackdown on Campus Protests Is Happening Everywhere
Fash Supremes Helping Immunize Amerika Against what's Left of Democracy by Paul Street
Supreme "Surprise" by Paul Street
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Related Episodes
Carol Anderson: White Supremacy & the Second Amendment
Sarah Posner: The GOP’s Christian Supremacy Problem
The Evangelical Prophets Anointing Trump
The Flag and the Cross and the Little Blue Bird
Sam talks with three experts on widespread local fascist organizing around the country including the so-called Constitutional Sheriffs movement, the embrace by local governments of right wing militias and fascist efforts to modify the constitution itself.
Devin Burghart (@dburghart) is the Executive Director, at the Institute for Research & Education on Human Rights. Carolyn Gallaher is a professor at American University. She has written about rightwing paramilitaries in the U.S. and Northern Ireland. Read more from her here. Follow her on Twitter at @C_OGallachoir or at Bluesky at @cgallaher.bsky.social. CJ Spencer (@ByCJSpencer) wrote How the Far Right-Wing Plans to Obliterate More of Our Constitutional Rights. Read more from them here.
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Mentioned in this Episode:
Inside the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University by Lara-Nour Walton (The Nation)
January 6 insurrectionists had a great day in the Supreme Court today (Most of the justices seem to want to make it harder to prosecute January 6 rioters.) by Ian Millhiser (Vox)
The Supreme Court’s confusing new anti-trans decision, explained (The Court mostly reinstates Idaho’s ban on transgender health care for children.) by Ian Millhiser (Vox)
The Supreme Court effectively abolishes the right to mass protest in three US states (It is no longer safe to organize a protest in Louisiana, Mississippi, or Texas.) by Ian Millhiser (Vox)
Sam talks with Merle Hoffman, long-time abortion rights activist and founder of one of the largest abortion clinics in the country, who has just written a memoir chronicling her decades of experience fighting for abortion rights. Get the book here: Choices: A Post Roe Abortion Rights Manifesto
merlehoffman.com and choicesmedical.com or on Twitter: @MerleHoffman.
For those looking for abortion care visit abortionfinder.org and prochoice.org
For funding abortion agencies nationally visit abortionfunds.org.
About the book:
In the wake of the Supreme Court overturning Roe V. Wade and a country divided, a pioneer in the pro-choice movement and women's healthcare offers an unapologetic and authoritative take on abortion and women's right to choose. Merle Hoffman has been at the forefront of the reproductive freedom movement since the 1970s. Three years before the Supreme Court legalized abortion through Roe v. Wade, she helped to establish one of the United States' first abortion centers in Flushing, Queens, and later went on to found Choices, one of the nation's largest and most comprehensive women's medical facilities.
For the last five decades, Hoffman has been a steadfast warrior and fierce advocate for every woman's right to choose when and whether or not to be a mother. Now, amidst the aftermath of the Dobbs Decision, Hoffman has carefully compiled her decades of analysis, research, and experience into a tour de force manifesto that sheds light on the catastrophic repercussions of overturning Roe, and what we must do moving forward to ensure the safety and legality of abortion nationally. In Choices, Hoffman expresses her views on where we are and what lies ahead. She covers topics ranging from: revamping the healthcare system to support women's rights; combatting rising authoritarianism; the weaponization of religion; fighting the antis; practicing courage; sabotage from within the movement; and activating the next generation in the fight for reproductive justice.
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown
Related Episodes:
Rick Perlstein: The Infernal Triangle + Christian Nationalist Project 2025
Project 2025: Roadmap for Fascist Consolidation
Abortion, Birth Control and What’s Next with Roxy Szal + Commentary From Coco Das
Voices from Abortion Rights Frontlines in Iowa
Speedbumps on the Highway to Christian Fascism and the Resistance Still Needed
Sam welcomes back onto the show Anthony DiMaggio and Henry Giroux to discuss their latest book Fascism on Trial: Education and the Possibility of Democracy. Dr. Henry A. Giroux is a renowned educator and author of multiple books on fascism and pedagogy. He holds the Chair for Scholarship in the Public Interest in English and Cultural Studies at McMaster University, Canada. Follow Dr. Giroux on Twitter at @HenryGiroux and visit his website at henryagiroux.com.
Dr. Anthony R. DiMaggio is a Professor of Political Science at Lehigh University, USA. He is the author of Rising Fascism in America: It Can Happen Here. Read his writings at Counterpunch and Salon.
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Previous Episodes with Henry Giroux:
The Nazification of American Education
Trump Is Not Trumpism and Trumpism Is Not Dead
Previous Episodes with Anthony DiMaggio:
The Continuing January 6 Coup
It Can, It Has, It Is Happening Here
The Evidence of Rising Neo-Fascism
Sam speaks to the Supreme Court facilitating the further erosion of civil rights & foreboding upcoming elections outside of the U.S.
Then, frequent guest and guest host of the show, Coco Das shares reflections on SB4 (Texas' "Show Me Your Papers" law) and talks with award-winning Turkish writer and political thinker Ece Temelkuran discussing her essay in Prospect Magazine, Fascism isn’t just a German problem. Follow Ece on Twitter @ETemelkuran. She'll be speaking at Ways Forward in a Divided World, Georgetown University Global Dialogues April 22-26.
Mentioned in this Episode:
Supreme Court grants Gov. Greg Abbott's wish to turn Texas into a far-right dictatorship by Amanda Marcotte
The Fascist Attack on Medication Abortion
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Sam comments on the downward spiral of the legal cases against Trump and the further consolidation of the RNC and “conservative movement” around MAGA fascism. Then, we share two interviews with people who have been actively resisting the escalating genocide in Gaza.
First, a conversation with Dr. Nicole Erin Morse, Associate Professor of Media Studies and former Director of the Center for Women, Gender & Sexuality Studies at Florida Atlantic University. They are a scholar of queer and trans media production and a community organizer in South Florida with Jewish Voice for Peace and the Community Hotline for Incarcerated People. Read their op-ed I Refuse to Endorse Zionism, So I Am Resigning From My Leadership Position.
Then Sam chats with Lela Tolajian, human rights activist and Georgetown University student about the genocide in Gaza, action being taken on college campuses and beyond to stop it, and the efforts to suppress that movement. Read her op-ed We, Jewish students, must not be silent on the genocide in Gaza. Follow her on Twitter at @LTolajian.
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown
Related Episodes:
Combatting Disinformation
Susan Neiman on Universalism Against Nationalism
Stop the Genocide in Gaza
Sam talks with historian Rick Perlstein, author of multiple books about the US conservative movement including Nixonland, about his latest work on the contemporary era and the nexus between the fascists, the media, and the Democratic Party; what he calls "the infernal triangle." Subscribe to his newsletter at prospect.org and follow him on Twitter at @rickperlstein.
Then, Sam talks to journalist Jennifer Cohn about the full Christian Nationalist theocratic program. Follow her on Twitter at @jennycohn1 and read her writings at crownewsletter.substack.com and buckscountybeacon.com.
Mentioned in this episode:
Democracy Now: “American Fascism”: Historian Rick Perlstein on Trump’s Grip on the GOP & Chances of a Second Jan. 6
Shocking Online Manifesto Reveals Project 2025’s Link To A Coordinated ‘Christian Nationalism Project’ by Jennifer Cohn
The Far-Right Playbook for American Authoritarianism Project 2025 by Global Project Against Hate and Extremism
Five Four Pod on Trump v Anderson (SCOTUS CO ballot case)
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Related Episodes:
The Cataclysm of a Second Trump Term
The Institutions Still Won't Save Us
Civil War Historians: Trump Is Disqualified + Report from Eagle Pass, TX
The Evangelical Prophets Anointing Trump
Project 2025: Roadmap for Fascist Consolidation
Sam comments on SCOTUS hearing Trump's presidential immunity claim and Trump and Biden visits to the Texas-Mexico border.
Then, she talks with Dr. Clarence Lusane to discuss the catastrophe for humanity of a second Trump presidency & lessons from the international rise of fascism.
Dr. Lusane is a professor and Director of the International Affairs program at Howard University. He is an independent expert to the European Commission Against Racism and Intolerance. His latest book is Twenty Dollars and Change: Harriet Tubman and the Ongoing Fight for Racial Justice and Democracy. Read more from him here.
Plus: journalist Amanda Moore (@noturtlesoup17), who was banned from the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) joins us to provide insight on the neo-Nazis and other far-right figures she witnessed waltz unimpeded into CPAC. You can follow her work here.
Mentioned In the Episode:
The Catastrophe of a Second Trump Presidency by Clarence Lusane
I Was Banned From CPAC, but the Extremists Weren’t by Amanda Moore
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Related Episodes:
Fascist Fringe and Fascist Mainstream
The Institutions Still Won't Save Us
Civil War Historians: Trump is Disqualified + Report From Eagle Pass Texas
Sam talks with Dr. Lee McIntyre, philosopher and author of numerous books including How to Talk to A Science Denier and his latest, On Disinformation:
"Drawing on his twenty years of experience as a scholar of science denial, McIntyre explains how autocrats wield disinformation to manipulate a populace and deny obvious realities, why the best way to combat disinformation is to disrupt its spread, and most importantly, how we can win the war on truth."
Follow his work at leemcintyrebooks.com and @leecmcintyre and get involved with The Mental Immunity Project.
Mentioned in this episode:
Alabama's targeting of IVF is the Christian right's attempt to control motherhood by Amanda Marcotte
Alabama’s IVF Ruling Is Christian Theology Masquerading as Law by Elie Mystal
Alabama’s embryos ruling is a terrifying preview of another Trump presidency by Sarah Posner
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Related Episodes:
The Evangelical Prophets Anointing Trump
Teach Truth Not Lies with Dr. Marvin Dunn
Sam speaks to developments in Trump's trials, the "pendulum swing" of political power, Gaza and the 2024 election, and more. Then, she talks with Jared Holt, Senior Research Analyst with the Institute for Strategic Dialogue. His writing can be found in various outlets including: The Washington Post, The Daily Beast, Columbia Journalism Review, HuffPost and GEN Magazine and his Substack is postthroughit.substack.com. Read his recent piece Election 2024: A rematch for the fate of US democracy
Mentioned in this episode:
From “Man Bites Dog” and “Oh My God” to “Dog Bites Man” and “Oh Well” On the Trivialization and Normalization of Fascism and Other Evils
Earth to Media: Try to Get It—Nice, Ordinary People Can Be Fascists by Brynn Tannehill
Project 2025: How Trump Loyalists and Right-Wing Leaders Are Paving a Fast Road to Fascism
Trump and the GOP’s Fascist Rhetoric Has Broad Appeal: Poll by Tim Dickinson
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Related Episodes:
The Fantasy of the Reasonable Republican
Project 2025: Roadmap for Fascist Consolidation
The White Power Movement in 2024
The GOP: Fascist, Nothing Semi- About It
Danielle Moodie: How to Stand Up to Fascist Bullies
Sam talks with historian, activist and RefuseFascism.org editorial board member Paul Street about the coming year and his take on all the wild things happening as well as to come. Follow Paul's work on Substack at paulstreet.substack.com.
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Sam talks with Dr. Manisha Sinha, historian of the US Civil War and Reconstruction and one of 25 historians who signed onto the amicus brief supporting Colorado's decision to remove Donald Trump from the 2024 presidential ballot according to the 14th amendment (which bars insurrectionists from public office).
Read the brief here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-719/298895/20240126151819211_23-719%20Brief.pdf
Learn more about Dr. Sinha's work at manishasinha.com and read her book, The Rise and Fall of the Second American Republic: Reconstruction, 1860-1920. Follow her on Twitter at @ProfMSinha.
Then, we share a bit of a report from Coco Das, who has gone to Eagle Pass, Texas (epicenter of the conflict at the border between Abbott-controlled National Guard troops and federally controlled Border Patrol) as part of an effort to investigate the situation and bring the message "we don't have an immigration problem, we have an imperialism problem!" The full interview with Coco from The RNL Show can be viewed here. Coco is a member of the Refuse Fascism editorial board, however this trip was not on behalf of Refuse Fascism. Follow Coco on Twitter at @coco_das.
Mentioned in the episode:
Texas Is Spoiling for a Civil War by Elie Mystal
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Related Episodes:
The White Power Movement in 2024
The Year Ahead and the New Fascism Syllabus
The Nightmare Immigrants Face At The Texas Border
Ian Millhiser on Trump’s Trials + Paul Street on Jan 6 Anniversary
It's been quite the week! Sam recaps some of the stories we're watching most closely: the Texas + other fascist controlled states v. federal government confrontation in the wake of a SCOTUS decision the fascists actually don't like (shockingly, Roberts and Coney Barrett agreed that the federal government has the authority to remove the murder wire that the state of Texas is strewing all over the border and in the Rio Grande), the latest on Trump's legal troubles (which, spoiler alert: do not portend a solution to our fascism troubles), and the ICJ ruling on the escalating genocide in Gaza.
Then, Sam talks with Kathleen Belew, historian and author of Bring the War Home: The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America about her work and her evaluation of that movement as it's developed in 2024. Follow her at kathleenbelew.com, Twitter: @kathleen_belew, and TikTok: kathleen.belew.
Mentioned in this episode:
Polarization & Extremism Research & Innovation Lab recommended by Kathleen Belew
Eagle Pass Republi-Fascist Neo-Nullificaton v. Federal State Authoity at the Southern Texas Border by Paul Street
Far-Right Extremists Are Organizing an Armed Convoy to the Texas Border by David Gilbert
Right-Wing Talk Of An ‘Invasion’ And ‘Civil War’ Risks Rise In Vigilantism, Experts Say by Chris Mathias
Protest Convoy Headed to Southern Border Is Calling Itself an ‘Army of God’ by Tess Owen
Research Letter: Rape-Related Pregnancies in the 14 US States With Total Abortion Bans
Enforcing the Law to Disqualify a Violent Insurrectionist Is Good, Actually by Michael Liroff
Recommended Reading/Watching:
“Trump Is the Nominee. Fascism Is on the Ballot.” Author Jeff Sharlet on New Hampshire & Beyond
American Fascism by Rick Perlstein (sign up for his newsletter!)
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Related Episodes:
The Year Ahead and The New Fascism Syllabus
The Nightmare Immigrants Face at the Texas Border
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On this episode, we share Jessica Valenti’s testimony before Senate Democrats on the state of abortion rights ahead of the Roe v. Wade anniversary.
Sam provides commentary highlighting the Supreme Court's efforts to expand their power & destroy the "administrative state" (aka upend functioning federal government), Trump taking Iowa, the state-federal standoff in Texas, what fascism is, why we can’t turn away and more.
Then, Sam talks with Jennifer Evans and Brian Griffith, co-editors of The New Fascism Syllabus, a collection of writings on the history of fascist, authoritarian, and populist movements and governments during the 20th and 21st centuries.
Mentioned in this episode:
Abortion On Demand and Without Apology Placard
Why Right-Wing Activists Have Strong Opinions About the Supreme Court’s Big Fishing Regulations Case by Madiba Dennie
Trump Just Keeps Doing Appalling Things, and the Ranks of the Disengaged Are Growing by Michelle Goldberg
The Law Alone Cannot Curb Donald Trump’s Lawlessness by Dahlia Lithwick
Metaphors Journalists Live By written by Rick Perlstein
On the Erudite Idiocy of the Liberal-Centrist Intelligentsia by Paul Street
The Supreme Court Is About to Seize Way More Power From Democratic Presidents by Mark Joseph Stern
The GOP Doesn’t Want to Punish Trans People—It Wants to Eradicate Them by Brynn Tannehill
My Prepared Remarks to Senate Dems by Jessica Valenti
Related episodes:
Ruling Through The Courts When They Don’t Have The Votes With Dahlia Lithwick
The Nightmare Immigrants Face At The Texas Border with Faisal Al Juburi
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Sam talks with Faisal Al-Juburi from RAICES Texas to get an update on what has changed (and what hasn't) for our siblings seeking refuge as of January 2024 at the deadly US border. Follow their work and get involved at https://www.raicestexas.org/.
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Related listening:
Fascist “Operation Lone Star” + Trump Indictment
Mentioned in this episode:
Did an Abortion Ban Cost a Young Texas Woman Her Life?
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Paul Street, member of the RefuseFascism.org Editorial Board shares reflections on January 6, three years later. Read his reflections: On January 6 Three Years Later: The Trump Republi-Fascist Menace is Alive and Well. Subscribe to the Paul Street Report to read and hear more from Paul.
Then, Sam talks with Ian Millhiser, senior correspondent at Vox, about just some of the Trump trials, some attempts for accountability through the legal system and Trump's strategy to dodge it. He is the author of two books on the Supreme Court: Injustices: The Supreme Court's History of Comforting the Comfortable and Afflicting the Afflicted and The Agenda: How a Republican Supreme Court Is Reshaping America. Follow Ian on Threads at Ian.millhiser and read his articles on Vox here.
Mentioned in This Episode:
Deja Coup: Donald Trump and the Slow Civil War (Dahlia Lithwick interviews Jeff Sharlet on the latest episode of Amicus)
A quarter of Americans believe FBI instigated Jan. 6, Post-UMD poll finds
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(Just Some) Related Episodes on the attempted Trump Coup:
The Fantasy of the Reasonable Republican With Fred Wellman
Jeff Sharlet- The Undertow: Scenes From a Slow Civil War
Proud Boys and The New Era of American Fascism
Bradley Onishi: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism and What Comes Next
Elie Honig: The January 6th Insurrection Isn’t Over
Ruth Ben-Ghiat: The GOP is Now the Party of Autocracy
Henry Giroux: Trump is not Trumpism and Trumpism is not Dead
Why Is Accountability Important?
As we close out 2023 and head into 2024 many of us are feeling a sense of deja vu - but with higher stakes. Take a trip through the events of 2023 with an eye to the future with some guests from this past year.
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Guests featured on this episode:
Wendy Via Project 2025: Roadmap for Fascist Consolidation
Coco Das Q&A With The Refuse Fascism Editorial Board
Jeff Sharlet The Undertow: Scenes from a Slow Civil War
Paul Street Your Questions Answered
Thomas Zimmer The Insurrectionist House of Representatives
Fred Wellman The Fantasy of the Reasonable Republican with Fred Wellman
Sarah Posner The Nightmare That Is House Speaker Mike Johnson
Brynn Tannehill The Sweeping and Intensifying Fascist Attack on Trans People
David Gilbert The GOP Embrace of Fascist “Moms for Liberty”
Dr. Marvin Dunn Teach Truth Not Lies
Faisal Al-Juburi Fascist “Operation Lone Star” + Trump Indictment
Keyanna Jones Stop Cop City
Susan Neiman On Universalism Against Nationalism
Mark Joseph Stern The Fascist Attack On Medication Abortion
Dahlia Lithwick Ruling Through The Courts When They Don’t Have The Votes
Madiba Dennie The Court Is Wrong; Color-Blindness Serving White Supremacy
Mark Jacob Trump Indicted + Media Complicity in the Rise of Fascism
Janet Ward Fascism in America: Past and Present
As we close out the year and look towards 2024, members of the RefuseFascism.org Editorial Board answer questions submitted by supporters of the pod. You can become one of those supporters at patreon.com/refusefascism.
Follow Coco Das at @Coco_Das, Paul Street at paulstreet.substack.com and Sam at @SamBGoldman on Twitter or @samgoldmanrf on TikTok.
Mentioned in the Episode:
The Supreme Court Just Took on Abortion Again. It Won’t End Well.
Jason Stanley on "undermining propaganda" with fascism: "Trump is robbing democracy of any meaning"
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Related episodes:
Project 2025: Roadmap to Fascist Consolidation
The Fascist Attack on Medication Abortion
Sam talks with scholar Matthew D. Taylor about House Speaker Mike Johnson and the significance and danger exemplified in Johnson's ascent to power. Taylor documents Johnson's links to leading voices in the Christian Charismatic movement (which were early adopters of the Trump cult, and unlike mainstream Evangelical leaders, have never split in their support for Trump). This movement also played a key role in mobilizing for the Jan 6 coup and continue to support Trump's quest for power in 2024. We explore what this tells us about the role and influence of Christian Nationalism, the New Apostolic Reformation movement, and the threat of theocracy in the United States.
Dr. Matthew D. Taylor is a Senior Scholar and the Protestant Scholar at the Institute for Islamic. Christian, Jewish Studies where he specializes in Muslim-Christian dialogue, Evangelical and Pentecostal movements, religious politics in the U.S., and American Islam. His forthcoming book The Violent Take It By Force: The Christian Movement that Is Sabotaging Our Democracy will be released in September 2024. On a podcast series “Charismatic Revival Fury: The New Apostolic Reformation” Taylor takes on the history of the New Apostolic Reformation the leaders and ideologies that fueled the siege of the capitol. Follow him on Twitter @TaylorMatthewD. He is also on Substack.
Mentioned in this episode:
Mike Johnson, Polite Extremist, by Matthew D. Taylor (The Bulwark)
The Key to Mike Johnson’s Christian Extremism Hangs Outside His Office by Bradley Onishi, Matthew D. Taylor (Rolling Stone)
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Related episodes:
The Nightmare That Is House Speaker Mike Johnson
Jeff Sharlet-The Undertow: Scenes From a Slow Civil War
Christian Dominison and Fascist Momentum
The Flag and the Cross and the Little Blue Bird
Bradley Onishi: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism–and What Comes Next
Sam talks with Dr. Susan Neiman, Director of the Einstein Forum in Germany about the US-backed war Israel is waging against Gaza. Her latest book is Left Is Not Woke. Her first work of fiction, Nine Stories: A Berlin Novel, will be published in 2024. She has written two recent thought provoking essays for the The New York Review of Books:
Historical Reckoning Gone Haywire
Germans’ efforts to confront their country's criminal history and to root out antisemitism have shifted from vigilance to a philosemitic McCarthyism that threatens their rich cultural life. (Published October 19)
Germany on Edge
In recent weeks, Germany’s reflexive defenses of Israel and suppression of its critics have assumed a fevered pitch. (Published November 3)
More recently she authored The universalist tradition has been forgotten, the Enlightenment betrayed
The Hamas attack has devastated progressive Jews who are not prepared to celebrate the carnage as an act of liberation. (Published by The Newstatesman on November 29)
Mentioned in this episode:
A Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable. We should stop pretending. by Robert Kagen
‘A mass assassination factory’: Inside Israel’s calculated bombing of Gaza by Yuval Abraham
“The Only Democracy in the Middle East” Is a Fascist State by Paul Street
What the “Pause” in the Fighting in Gaza Has Not Paused: The Ongoing U.S.-Backed Palestinian Genocide by Israel from Revcom.us
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Sam talks with Wendy Via, Co-Founder and President at The Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, about their analysis of the publicly announced plan for "day one" of the next presidential administration (presumably headed by leading Republifascist candidate Donald Trump). Their report The Far-Right Playbook for American Authoritarianism: Project 2023 states in part, "Their aims include “bringing together conservative allies with a common goal: to take back our country from the radical Left by developing a robust governing agenda and the right people to implement it.” And it has been reported, though denied, that internal Project 2025 discussions have centered around the next conservative president invoking the Insurrection Act on the first day in office to allow the military to quell civil unrest." Learn more about Wendy and the GPAHE's work at globalextremism.org and follow them at @globalextremism.
Mentioned in this episode:
The Republi-Fascist Specter Looms by Paul Street
Biden’s Camp Cheers on Trump’s CNN Town Hall: An “Opposition” Party that is Worse than Useless by Coco Das (May 13, 2023, still relevant)
Behind the Curtain: Trump allies pre-screen loyalists for unprecedented power grab by Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen (Axios)
Sweeping Raids, Giant Camps and Mass Deportations: Inside Trump’s 2025 Immigration Plans by Charlie Savage, Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan (NYT)
The “Is Donald Trump a Fascist?” Debate Has Been Ended—by Donald Trump by Chris Lehmann (The Nation)
Donald Trump Is A Fascist from Stephen Colbert
Donations have surged to groups linked to conservative Project 2025 by Katherine Doyle (NBC)
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Related Episodes:
The Nightmare That Is House Speaker Mike Johnson
Ruling Through The Courts When They Don’t Have The Votes With Dahlia Lithwick
Sam talks with Kasey Meehan, Freedom to Read Program Director at PEN America. Their new report America's Censored Classrooms 2023 states, "Over the past three years, state legislators have launched an onslaught of educational gag orders—state legislative and policy efforts to restrict teaching about topics such as race, gender, American history, and LGBTQ+ identities in educational settings." For more, visit pen.org. Also see: Banned in the USA: The Mounting Pressure to Censor and Educational Intimidation.
Plus, commentary on the latest developments post-November 2023 elections and other recent news.
Mentioned in this episode:
My life has been defined by genocide of Jewish people. I look on Gaza with concern by Jason Stanley
Institute for Middle East Understanding
Thread from Sunsara Taylor about abortion rights
Recommended Reading:
Trump and allies plot revenge, Justice Department control in a second term
Sweeping Raids, Giant Camps and Mass Deportations: Inside Trump’s 2025 Immigration Plans
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Related episodes:
Teach Truth Not Lies with Dr. Marvin Dunn
Sam talks with writer Sarah Posner about Mike Johnson, the new Speaker of the House, third in line to the presidency and Christian Nationalist who spent around a decade as a lawyer with Alliance Defending Freedom (sic), the organization behind the recent wave of state level anti-abortion legislation, the 303 Creative SCOTUS case, and on the wrong side of many other battles.
Read Sarah's book UNHOLY: How White Christian Nationalists Powered the Trump Presidency, And the Devastating Legacy They Left Behind, get her latest commentary on MSNBC, and follow her on sarahposner.com.
Mentioned in this episode:
Mike Johnson’s Christian nationalist track record isn’t a mystery — it’s a tragedy by Sarah Posner on MSNBC
Mike Johnson, theocrat: the House speaker and a plot against America by Marci A. Hamilton in The Guardian
White Christian Nationalism, Now with a Gavel in a Tailored Suit by Robert P. Jones
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Related episodes:
The Undertow: Scenes from a Slow Civil War with Jeff Sharlet
The Insurrectionist House of Representatives with Thomas Zimmer
The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism --And What Comes Next with Bradley Onishi
Sam talks with Mark Tinkleman, co-producer of the podcast, about the genocide in Gaza and the dangerous unity between imperialist “democracy” and fascism, plus what’s happening in the House of Representatives and more. Views expressed in this episode are the opinions of Sam and Mark themselves. Follow Mark on Instagram at @marknoodler.
Recommended Signs of Hope
If Not Now
American Jews organizing our community to end U.S. support for Israel's apartheid system and demand equality, justice, and a thriving future for all.
Join the protest in DC on Wednesday October 25 calling for a ceasefire or find an event near you:
https://www.ifnotnowmovement.org/upcoming-events
On Wednesday afternoon, thousands of American Jews and allies showed up to Capitol Hill to demand a ceasefire in Gaza and an end to Israeli genocide of Palestinians.
Hyerpallergic: Art Organizations Around the World Go on Strike in Support of Gaza
Artists, galleries, and museums are closing their doors to demand a ceasefire in Gaza, where Israeli strikes have killed upwards of 4,200 Palestinian people.
Open letter to President Biden: we call for a ceasefire now
from Judith Butler, Masha Gessen, Rachel Kushner, Ben Lerner, V (formerly Eve Ensler) and others
Artists Call for Ceasefire Now
from Dua Lipa, James Schamus, Mark Ruffalo, Quinta Brunson, Rosario Dawson, Shailene Woodley and many others
An Open Letter From the Art Community to Cultural Organizations
Bassem Youssef on Piers Morgan's Show
History and Analysis
When the Devil Is Your Own: The horrifying continuity between 9/11 and 10/7
by Sarah Kendzior
Revcom.us on the history of Palestine in Israel and imperialism
The RNL — Revolution, Nothing Less! — Show episode 169:
No to Israel/U.S.! No to Hamas! Humanity Needs Revolution & the New Communism!
US right heats up inflammatory rhetoric on Palestine as Muslim groups worry
Professor Ilan Pappé: Israel Has Chosen to be a “Racist Apartheid State” with U.S. Support
As Gaza war rages, West Bank faces violent collective punishment
Gaza’s Last Stand? The Dangers of a Second Nakba
by Jamie Stern-Weiner
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Sam talks with Dahlia Lithwick about how the SCOTUS and this term fit into the growing fascist threat and the stakes of the cases they will potentially be hearing and deciding this year. Dahlia Lithwick writes about the courts and the law for Slate and hosts the podcast Amicus. She is the author of Women, the Law, and the Battle to Save America.
Mentioned in this episode:
A Monumental SCOTUS Term Begins: Our Reluctant Curtain-Raiser
This Supreme Court Term’s Grimmest Cases Share One Thing in Common
5-4 Podcast 2023-2024 Term Preview with Chris Geidner
ProPublica: We Don’t Talk About Leonard Podcast
Related Episodes:
The Court is Wrong; Colorblindness Serving White Supremacy
SCOTUS Openly Advances Fascism
SCOTUS, The Shadow Docket, and The Fascist Assault on the Environment
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Sam talks with writer and historian Paul Street (also on the RefuseFascism.org Editorial Board) about recent events including the fascist attempts to shut down the government, the ouster of Kevin McCarthy from the Speaker of the House, and the increasingly violent threats and promises of vengeance from current frontline candidate for president and as-yet unconvicted coup plotter Donald Trump. Follow Paul on his Substack and read his latest article, Nether the Fascist Trump Nor Imperialist Biden
Mentioned in this episode:
America needs to talk about the right’s ‘Red Caesar’ plan for U.S. dictatorship by Will Bunch
Trump’s Bloody Campaign Promises by David Remnick
Related episodes:
Fascism In America: Past and Present
Trump Indicted and Media Complicity in the Rise of Fascism
The Fantasy of the Reasonable Republican
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Sam talks with Roxy Szal, Austin-based feminist writer and Digital Editor of Ms. Magazine about the state of emergency for abortion access in many parts of the U.S. and much more. For more from Roxy and Ms Magazine visit https://msmagazine.com/ and listen to the On The Issues podcast hosted by Michelle Godwin here. Check out the Fifty Years of Ms. book here.
Plus commentary from Coco Das (@Coco_Das) about GOP front-runner Donald Trump's attacks on the U.S. military, a basis for optimism for the future, and more.
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Sam talks with Gavriel D. Rosenfeld and Janet Ward, the two editors of a new book titled Fascism in America. Gavriel D. Rosenfeld is President of the Center for Jewish History and Professor of History at Fairfield University. He is the author or editor of eight books on the Nazi era, including The Fourth Reich: The Specter of Nazism since World War II (2019) and Hi Hitler! How the Nazi Past Is Being Normalized in Contemporary Culture (2014). Janet Ward is an American Council on Education Fellow at Yale University, and Brammer Presidential Professor of History and Faculty Fellow for Strategic Initiatives (DFCAS) at the University of Oklahoma. Past President of the German Studies Association, she is the author or co-editor of seven books, including Post-Wall Berlin: Borders, Space and Identity (2014) and the forthcoming Sites of Holocaust Memory. Find Dr. Rosenfeld on Twitter at @gavrieldrosenfe. His website is https://www.gavrielrosenfeld.com/
Federico Finchelstein, author of From Fascism to Populism in History, writes "This book is an essential contribution to debates on the history of fascism in the US and its relationship to the present. It is a must read for all those interested in the issues facing democracy today."
Mentioned in this episode:
Fighting Fascism: A Symposium on Jewish Responses From the Interwar Period to the Present Day
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Sam talks with Keyanna Michelle Jones, an organizer with Community Movement Builders. They discuss the ominous and illegitimate RICO indictments "Cop City" opponents face and the fascist assault on the right to protest there. Follow her at @kmichelle_atl and learn more about Community Movement Builders here: https://communitymovementbuilders.org.
Note this episode was recorded on September 12. On Sunday September 17 Stacey Abrams said that she thinks Cop City should be put up for a referendum vote after the mayor put her on the spot, saying that he consulted with her before trying to obstruct the vote.
Mentioned in this episode:
Atlanta Solidarity Fund https://atlsolidarity.org
Block Cop City mass nonviolent direct action Nov 10-13 in Atlanta:
Previous episode about the uprising in Iran: Women, Life, Freedom
For more background on this topic:
Atlanta Community Press Collective: Georgia Attorney General brings RICO indictments against 61 activists
The Nation: How Georgia Indicted a Movement
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/cop-city-indictment-atlanta/
Revolution: RICO Indictment Against Cop City Protesters:
An Ominous and Illegitimate Fascist Assault on Legitimate and Righteous Protest
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Sam talks with Will Carless, national correspondent for USA Today on extremism, about his recent investigation: The military ordered big steps to stop extremism. Two years later, it shows no results. Follow him on Twitter @WillCarless and read his work at USA Today.
Mentioned in the episode:
Georgia Attorney General brings RICO indictments against 61 activists
RICO indictments for 61 people alleged to be part of the Stop Cop City Movement
Proud Boys Didn't Just Crash An Election. They Upended The Next One Too.
Trump plans to become a dictator — denial will not save you
Related Episodes:
Proud Boys and a New Era of American Fascism
The Flag and the Cross and the Little Blue Bird
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Sam talks with Dr. Marvin Dunn, historian and activist with The Miami Center for Racial Justice about their educational tours of Florida covering sites of lynchings and other oppression (prime example: Rosewood) — the knowledge of which is being suppressed by the Desantis fascist offensive against public education. Learn more, get involved and support Teach the Truth projects at https://miamicenterforracialjustice.org/. Follow Dr. Dunn on the site formerly known as Twitter @MarvinDunn4.
Mentioned in this episode:
It's Not Just Florida: Four New 'Don't Say Gay' Laws Passed in 2023
Check out this call to protest!
Oppose the lynch-mob celebrating Jason Aldean concert in Tinley Park, IL (suburb of Chicago) on Saturday Sept 9. Learn more from Revolution Club Chicago (revclub.chi on Instagram): https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cwni9h_J1WZ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Related Episodes:
The GOP Embrace of Fascist "Moms for Liberty"
The Fascist State of Florida and Student Resistance
Foundation 451: Defying DeSantis' Book Bans
The Nazification of American Education
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Sam talks with Mike Rothschild, author of the forthcoming book Jewish Space Lasers: The Rothschilds and 200 Years of Conspiracy Theories (preorder now!).
From Terry Matalas:
"Like Mike Rothschild’s incredible deconstruction of QAnon in The Storm Is Upon Us, Jewish Space Lasers takes a thoroughly engrossing deep dive into the absurd conspiracy theories surrounding Judaism’s ‘royal family.’ It unpacks that age-old stereotype ‘the Jews control everything’ and brilliantly examines the mysterious dynasty credited for being at the center of it all. It’s a globe-trotting breakdown of antisemitism throughout history to the very chilling moment we are in now. Absorbing, entertaining, and exhaustively researched—a must-read.”
Find out more about the book here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/733925/jewish-space-lasers-by-mike-rothschild/
Follow Mike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/rothschildmd
Plus: commentary on the fascist murders that took place this month from coast to coast, the GOP debate, Trump’s arraignment in the Georgia case & more!
Mentioned in this episode:
Beyond Wishful Thinking and Wrong Conviction by Paul Street
https://paulstreet.substack.com/p/beyond-wishful-thinking-and-wrong
Related episodes:
Mia Bloom: Inside the Mind of Qanon
https://open.spotify.com/episode/5zY6UO57M6CtU6hIOVYACg
Fascist Lies with Federico Finchelstein
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6ELkgDtqzhqzbyagTtjKKw
Teddy Wilson: Fascist Violence Accelerated
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2BjVPdGlluT7zeBuHwLsQG
Carol Anderson: White Supremacy & the Second Amendment
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4YFYpNanTHgCwPQS9Bpx6p
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Sam talks with attorney and writer Madiba Dennie about the SCOTUS ruling from this June which eliminated race conscious education admissions. Follow her work at madibadennie.com and @AudreLawdAMercy.
Plus more commentary on the brewing crisis escalated by the most recent indictments of Trump.
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Sam talks with Faisal Al-Juburi from RAICES Texas about the continuing brutal mistreatment of immigrants and asylum seekers in Texas, which has now placed razor wire barriers in the Rio Grande. RAICES first came to national attention during the family separation crisis under the Trump regime but has been providing services and advocacy for immigrants for decades. Follow and support their work at raicestexas.org.
Plus: commentary on the latest batch of Trump indictments which finally point out his role in attempting to overturn the 2020 election.
Read the statement from the RefuseFascism.org Editorial Board: Trump Indicted for Attempting to Overturn Results of 2020 Election: A Time for Truth, Not Delusion; For Struggle, Not Complacency
Mentioned in this episode:
Reading the Indictment of Donald Trump (WNYC)
The Trump Jan. 6 Indictment, Annotated (NYT)
Texas DPS separates families at border in apparent policy shift (Houston Chronicle)
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Sam talks with Dale Anderson, an organizer with Choose Democracy Now about what’s happening at the ground level in Sarasota, Florida as a case study of the spreading fascism in the US. Find out more about their work at choosedemocracynow.org.
Plus commentary from C. Clark Kissinger excerpted from the recent Q&A discussion with hosts of the show and Refuse Fascism patrons.
Mentioned in this episode:
Trump’s Attacks on the Legal System Are a Preview of How He Plans to Govern by Sasha Abramsky
The Center Cannot Hold by Paul Street
People Aren’t Facing Up to the Horrors a New Trump Term Would Bring by Brynn Tannehill
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Sam talks to women in Iowa, where a new abortion ban was just signed into law, making essentially all abortion services unobtainable.
Lyz Lenz ia a journalist based in Iowa and author of several books including Belabored: A Vindication of the Rights of Pregnant Women. Find her on Twitter https://twitter.com/lyzl or her website https://lyzlenz.com/.
Allison Simpson founded We Won’t Go Back - Dubuque Area and Bridgett Kearney is active with the group (which you can join if you are nearby, details on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2868970886743644/)
*No new episode next week but we are hosting a discussion for Patrons with editors of RefuseFascism.org Coco Das, Paul Street and Sam Goldman on Sunday July 23 at 4pm ET. Details / sign up for $5/month to join at https://www.patreon.com/refusefascism
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Sam talks with David Gilbert, Senior Reporter with Vice.com about his recent coverage of the "Moms for Liberty" movement which just held their National Summit in Philly.
Read his recent piece The GOP Is Lining Up to Pay Homage to America's Newest Extremist Group, Moms for Liberty and follow him on Twitter https://twitter.com/daithaigilbert and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/davidgilbertwriter/.
Mentioned in this episode:
Annika Brockschmidt: At Moms for Liberty Summit 'Mama Bears' Declare Spiritual War on the 'Radical Left'
https://religiondispatches.org/at-moms-for-liberty-summit-mama-bears-declare-spiritual-war-on-the-radical-left/
Anthea Butler: Nothing about Moms for Liberty is new. That’s why it's effective.
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/moms-for-liberty-republican-politics-rcna92395
Nicole Hemmer: What history reveals about the biggest new power player in US politics
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/07/opinions/moms-for-liberty-conservative-women-history-hemmer
Dr. Gillian Frank: Moms Can Do Anything...Even Shape An Election
https://wearethemeteor.com/moms-for-liberty-history-white-supremacy/
ICYMI Related episode: Moms for "Liberty" aka Moms for Fascism
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refuse-fascism/id1522364165?i=1000618282540
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Sam talks with Paul Street about the recent rulings from the Supreme Court including overturning affirmative action, legalizing discrimination against LGBTQ (and possibly other?) people, Moore v Harper (the "independent state legislature theory" case) and more. Follow Paul on Substack: https://substack.com/@paulstreet
Also listen to episode 160: SCOTUS, The Shadow Docket, & The Fascist Assault on the Environment https://open.spotify.com/episode/1nddQh2o8s3Cpka64Dmm8s
Mentioned in this episode:
Homophobic businesses in the US have a powerful ally: the US supreme court by Moira Donegan
The GOP Is Lining Up to Pay Homage to America's Newest Extremist Group, Moms for Liberty by David Gilbert
https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a3a3w/moms-for-liberty-summit-ron-desantis-trump
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Sam shares reflections on the one year anniversary of the overturn of Roe. Read the statement from Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights: https://riseup4abortionrights.org/june-24-2023-one-year-without-roe-take-your-fury-back-into-the-streets/
“Moms for Liberty” [sic] will be holding their national summit June 29 - July 2 in Philadelphia (cheers to the protestors). Producer Mark Tinkleman shares some commentary on this fascist movement.
Then, Sam interviews Karen Svoboda, CEO of Defense of Democracy about the Moms. Follow Defense of Democracy at https://defenseofdemocracy.org/.
Join Refuse Fascism in protesting in Philly - follow along on our socials (@RefuseFascism).
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Sam interviews Stephen Vladeck, law professor and author of the NY Times bestseller, The Shadow Docket, How the Supreme Court Uses Stealth Rulings to Amass Power and Undermine the Republic. Follow Steve on Twitter at @steve_vladeck and sign up for his Substack here: stevevladeck.substack.com.
Then, we talk to Julian Gonzalez, senior legislative counsel Earth Justice about the recent ruling that undermines the Clean Water Act and related attacks on the environment coming from the Supreme Court. Learn more about the work of Earth Justice at earthjustice.org.
Next weekend, join us in the streets of DC on the one year anniversary of the Dobbs decision which overturned abortion rights demanding legal abortion nationwide: https://riseup4abortionrights.org/june-24-2023-one-year-without-roe-take-your-fury-back-into-the-streets/
Starting June 29 - July 2 the fascist anti-LGBTQ group "Moms for Liberty" will be holding their summit in Philly. Stay tuned for details on how to mobilize to defend people targeted for attack by this group, particularly the trans community.
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History was made this past week as Trump was finally federally indicted for keeping classified documents, mishandling them and obstructing all attempts to retrieve them from his bathroom and ballroom in Mar-a-Lago (among other places). Sam Goldman comments on this new situation and the calls for violence to retaliate from Trump and other Republifascist leaders.
Then, Sam interviews Mark Jacob, a former editor at the Chicago Tribune and Sun-Times, about the way the media has handled and in some ways assisted the growth of the fascist movement in the US. Follow Mark on Twitter at @MarkJacob16.
Recommended Reading:
The Federal Trump Indictments and the Living Fascist Menace – Curb the Liberal Happy Dancing
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Sam talks to educator Michael Vavrus, professor emeritus at The Evergreen State College, about his new book Teaching Anti-Fascism: A Critical Multicultural Pedagogy for Civic Engagement.
From a review by Noah De Lissovoy (The University of Texas at Austin):
“Teaching Anti-Fascism brilliantly excavates the historical and contemporary sources of fascism in colonialism, anti-Blackness, and monopoly capitalism, and demonstrates that authoritarianism is embedded both in far-right movements and in the institutions of liberal democracy. Crucially challenging the hesitancy in education to confront fascist politics, Vavrus shows that multicultural teaching must take on an anti-fascist commitment in order to be true to its own values and vocation. For all who refuse the illusory consolation of ‘it can’t happen here,’ this book outlines a comprehensive program of critical and engaged civic education that we simply cannot do without.”
Then, Coco Das comments on the official start of the contest between Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump for top dog fascist as well as the fascist persecution of the courageous Indiana abortion doctor Caitlin Bernard. Follow Coco at @Coco_Das.
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Sam talks to Wajahat Ali about Tucker Carlson’s white supremacist legacy and anticipated next steps in the aftermath of his firing from FOX News. If you’re on Twitter you probably already follow Wajahat @WajahatAli. You can also read his latest book Go Back to Where You Came From And Other Helpful Recommendations on How to Become American or listen to the podcast he co-hosts, Democracy-Ish.
Then, Coco Das talks to open source researcher Aric Toler who uncovered the details of the Allen Texas mass shooter’s fascist ideology. Read Tracing the Odnoklassniki Profile of the Texas Mall Shooter on Bellingcat and follow Aric at @AricToler.
Recommended Reading for this week:
What the Debt Limit Fight Is Actually About: It’s not about debt at all. It’s about turning back the political clock 100 years. by Jon Schwarz
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Coco Das comments on the recent CNN-hosted Trump Town Hall (aka Klan rally) and Democratic reactions. Read her commentary here: Biden’s Camp Cheers on Trump’s CNN Town Hall: An “Opposition” Party that is Worse than Useless. Follow her on Twitter at @Coco_Das.
Plus: Sam interviews Akin Olla, National Press Secretary for the Dream Defenders, and contributing opinion writer for The Guardian, about the Dream Defenders' recent mobilization against Florida Governor Ron Desantis. Follow @Dreamdefenders on Twitter and learn more about their work at dreamdefenders.org. Follow Akin on Twitter at @thisisrevshow.
From RiseUp4AbortionRights.org:
Do not wait to see what plays out in the courts, act now!
In the Philadelphia area? Join host of the pod Sam Goldman at a Teach-In at Drexel University:
Hands off the Abortion Pill: the Christian Fascist Plan for a Federal Abortion Ban
Wednesday, May 17 6PM
Disque Hall Room 108
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Sam talks to Brynn Tannehill, former naval aviator and author of several books including American Fascism: How the GOP is Subverting Democracy and her latest, My Child Told Me They're Trans ... What Do I Do?: A Q&A Guide by Parents of Thriving Trans Children.
A wave of legislation targeting trans people is sweeping the country. Read a roundup of some of these laws here (from HRC). Follow Brynn on Twitter at @BrynnTannehill and read her recent article for New Republic, "The End of Trans America Comes Into Focus."
Listen to the previous episode with Andy Campbell, author of We Are Proud Boys: How a Right-Wing Street Gang Ushered in a New Era of American Extremism.
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Sam interviews Fred Wellman, veteran and host of the On Democracy podcast, former executive director of the Lincoln Project about the state of the Republican Party (and its fascist base) and the lessons from recent years of the limitations of “politics as usual.” Follow Fred at @FPWellman and read his writings at fpwellman.substack.com.
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Sam Goldman and Coco Das (@Coco_Das) discuss the latest developments in the plans to institute a full abortion ban (which hit a speedbump on Friday with SCOTUS deciding to maintain the status quo access for mifepristone while the Kacsmaryk ruling works its way through appeals) as well as other developments in the past week.
Recommended reading:
Male Supremacy Is at the Core of the Hard Right’s Agenda
Weekly Roundup of Anti-LGBTQ+ Legislation Advancing In States Across the Country
Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights action in Austin Texas April 22
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This week we cover the fascist attack on medication abortion that has now made its way all the way up to the Supreme Court. Sam talks to Mark Joseph Stern, Senior Writer at Slate.com, who recently wrote The Lawless Ruling Against the Abortion Pill Has Already Prompted a Constitutional Crisis. Next, Sam shares an interview with Dr. Elizabeth Newhall, an Obstetrician and Gynecologist who participated in the effort to gain FDA approval of mifepristone.
Follow Mark on Twitter @mjs_DC
Mentioned in this episode:
It Is Time to Get Real. It Is Time to Fight for Abortion Rights! by Coco Das
American women, let this be your wake-up call: it won’t end with mifepristone by Moira Donegan
Listen to this recent episode if you haven’t already:
The Post-Dobbs Human Rights Emergency
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Sam talks to Dr. Christine Ryan, Legal Director at Global Justice Center about the open letter issued by 200 other human rights organizations to the UN about the human rights emergency that is occurring in the US as abortion is criminalized in many states since Roe was overturned (read here). Follow Dr. Ryan on Twitter at @christinegjc.
Recommended Reading:
Trump’s Indictment: A Time for Vigilance, Not Complacency: https://refusefascism.org/2023/04/01/trumps-indictment-a-time-for-vigilance-not-complacency/
Join a Protest! Find Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights Same Day/Next Day Protests if there is a negative decision in the mifepristone (abortion medication) case pending in Texas: https://riseup4abortionrights.org/find-a-protest/
Listen to these recent episodes if you haven't already:
Jeff Sharlet - The Undertow: Scenes from a Slow Civil War
Carrie Baker: Looming Decision That Could Ban Abortion Medication
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Sam talks to Jeff Sharlet, author and journalist (The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power, C Street: The Fundamentalist Threat to American Democracy) and now his new book The Undertow: Scenes from a Slow Civil War. It's a must-read for understanding the moment we're in from someone who has closely followed the American fascist movement. Follow Jeff on Twitter at @JeffSharlet and Instagram: jeffsharlet.
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Coco Das (@Coco_Das) and Paul Street (@Streetwriter17) in conversation with Sam Goldman (@SamBGoldman) answer listener questions on fascism and recent events.
Find or organize a protest at Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights: Fascist Judges: Keep Your Hands Off Abortion Medication!
Mentioned in this episode:
Christian Fascist Matthew Kacsmaryk’s Coming Ruling and the Need to Abandon Liberal Surrender and Complicity by Paul Street
Trump Might Face Criminal Charges—But He’s Unlikely to Face Justice by Elie Mystal
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Sam talks with journalist Katelyn Burns about the fascist offensive against trans people. Follow her work here and on Twitter at @transscribe and listen to her podcast Cancel Me, Daddy.
Mentioned in the episode:
LGBTQ Institute in Germany Was Burned Down by Nazis
Anti-Gender Campaigns in Europe: Mobilizing against Equality
The New York Times's War on Trans Kids (If Books Could Kill)
Sign the petition!
Drop the Charges on the Tampa 4! Stop DeSantis' Attacks on Diversity! Rhea Law, Step Down!
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What's happening in Florida to education under fascist governor Ron DeSantis, and how are students responding and resisting? Featuring interviews with:
Rafael Kadaris, a correspondent on the Revolution Nothing Less Show. Articles and resources he mentions can be found at Revcom.us.
Ben and Stephanie are student organizers with Stand For Freedom Florida (on Instagram at @standforfreedomfl). Support their efforts: https://www.gofundme.com/f/protect-educational-freedoms-in-florida
Recommended reading:
For more on HB 999, read Michelle Goldberg’s recent piece for the NYT: Florida Could Start Looking a Lot Like Hungary
Take action:
Find a Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights International Women's Day Action
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Sam talks to Dr. Carrie Baker, Professor at Smith College and contributing editor of Ms. magazine about the lawsuit that could be decided in the coming days which would potentially eliminate access to medication induced abortions in the US. Follow her work at Ms. magazine here and follow her on Twitter at @CarrieNBaker.
Also see:
Fascist Judges: Keep Your Hands Off Abortion Medication! (RiseUp4AbortionRights.org)
Mentioned in the episode:
‘It’s a war’: the doctor who wants Americans to get abortion pills before it’s too late by Poppy Noor
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Sam interviews Adam Tritt, teacher and founder of Foundation 451, an organization formed in response to the bans on books in Florida schools. Find out more at their website foundation451.org and donate to support their free banned books campaign here.
Recommended reading:
Biden’s Abortion Aside by Jessica Valenti
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Sam talks with Werner Lange, retired educator and pastor, Chair of the Ohio Peace Council and author of Onward Christian Soldiers: the MAGA March toward a Fascist Americaabout the historical and modern day fascist movement. Read his recent piece, "A Lesson for America 90 Years After Hitler's Ascension to Power" in Common Dreams where he writes, "the House Freedom Caucus is the functional equivalent of the NSDAP." Then, we re-share a clip from an interview with Andrea Chalupa from Season 1 in October 2020, due to its continuing relevance: Taking to the Streets Challenges the Dictator's Legitimacy.
Mentioned in the show regarding the fascist suppression campaign in Florida against African American AP History:
Open Letter In Defense of AP African American Studies
OAH Statement on AP African American Studies
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Back by popular demand! Sam talks with Dr. Thomas Zimmer, historian at Georgetown University and co-host of the podcast Is This Democracy? Follow him on Twitter at @tzimmer_history and subscribe to his substack at thomaszimmer.substack.com where you can read his latest commentary: "On the Murder of Tyre Nichols." They discuss just a handful of the latest attempts to shore up traditional hierarchies through aggressive fascist measures in a variety of arenas including the House of Representatives and state legislatures around the country, as well as how to understand the Republican Party today.
Mentioned in the show:
'You want to ban the books? I’m giving them away.' Activists protest Florida book-ban law
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Coco Das reads the statement from Rise Up for Abortion Rights on the 50th anniversary of Roe. Follow Coco on Twitter at @Coco_Das and connect with Rise Up for Abortion Rights on all platforms at riseup4abortionrights.org.
Then, Sam interviews Julie F. Kay, human rights lawyer for gender equality & religious freedom and architect of the Irish abortion lawsuit ABC v. Ireland, co-author with Kathryn Kolbert of Controlling Women: What We Must Do Now to Save Reproductive Freedom. Follow her on Twitter @Msjuliekay and visit her website www.juliefkay.com.
Also! check out Walter Masterson trolling anti-abortion protesters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oG7s2idrgQ
Links to reports/articles mentioned in the show:
Jessica Valenti: Abortion, Every Day
The Gender Equity Project Institute The State of Reproductive Health in The United States
Vice News: I Helped an 11-Year-Old Rape Victim and Hundreds of Other People Get Abortions After Roe
Sunsara Taylor: Forced Motherhood Is Female Enslavement; Make Roe's Reversal a Rallying Cry for a Real Revolution!
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Sam Goldman, Paul Street and Anthony DiMaggio discuss the continuing impact of the Trump coup attempt that seemed to culminate with the physical assault on the Capitol on January 6, 2021. The House special committee's report was released in the final days of 2022 with the recommendation that the now Republican-controlled Congress bar Trump from ever holding office again, as well as be criminally prosecuted. Neither outcome is likely as the events of the first week back in session show the GOP is still completely in thrall to the cult of Trump, whether via supposed "moderates" like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Kevin McCarthy or "extremists" like Matt Gaetz and Lauren Boebert.
Anthony DiMaggio is an Associate Professor of political science at Lehigh University and author of Rising Fascism in America: It Can Happen Here. Read his writings at Counterpunch and Salon. Paul Street is on editorial board of RefuseFascism.org and the author of This Happened Here: Amerikaners, Neoliberals, and the Trumping of America. Read his latest writings on Substack including "Keep Down the Fascism Detectors: Elise Stefanik, the New York Times, and the Appeasement by Deletion of Fascism."
Recommended reading:
The shutdown caucus really wins: The House power grab was always bigger than Kevin McCarthy
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We take a look back at 2022 with the help of previous guests including:
Sussan Tahmasebi
Jasmin Ramsey
Marcela García
Susana Chiarotti
Sunsara Taylor
Andrew Seidel
Coco Das
Bradley Onishi
Samuel Perry
Andrew Seidel
Thomas Zimmer
Wajahat Ali
Paul Street
Rachael Wachstein
Danielle Moodie
Henry Giroux
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Sam Goldman talks to Gwen Frisbie-Fulton, organizer and writer, about the recent attack on power stations in Moore County, North Carolina, and how the attacks on drag story hours are being used by the larger fascist movement. Read Was Moore County attack another antI-LGTBQ act? in the Greensboro News & Record and follow Gwen at @gwen_fulton. Then, we talk to drag performers about the joys and benefits of drag story hours, not just for the LGBTQ community but for everyone who wants to bring a little more empathy, creativity and fun into the world.
Learn more about youth activist and performer Desmond Napoles at desmondisamazing.com and learn more about drag story hours and get involved with Paradise's group, Drag Story Hour at dshnyc.org.
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Sam interviews Andy Campbell, author of the new book We Are Proud Boys: How a Right-Wing Street Gang Ushered in a New Era of American Extremism. Follow Andy on Twitter at @AndyBCampbell.
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Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Phillip Gorski, professor of sociology at Yale, about the contours of the White Christian Nationalist movement. His latest book is The Flag and the Cross written with Dr. Samuel Perry. Follow Dr. Gorski on Twitter at @GorskiPhilip.
Then, Sam talks to Micah Lee, Director of Information Security at The Intercept, about the Nazification of Twitter under Elon Musk. You can follow Micah on Twitter @MicahfLee but he's posting more often on Mastodon these days: https://infosec.exchange/@micahflee and his website is micahflee.com.
Also mentioned on this episode:
The US supreme court is poised to strike another blow against gay rights by Moira Donegan
Why is Texas banning abortions? Because this state is run by Christian fundamentalist fascist lunatics by Coco Das
The Court Case That Could Legalize the Next Coup by Elie Mystal
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Sam talks to Dr. Sarah Riccardi-Swartz, assistant professor of religion and anthropology at Northeastern University about Christian Dominionism, rising antisemitism and the fascist movement's continued momentum. Follow her on Twitter at @riccardiswartz and visit her site at riccardiswartz.com
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Sam Goldman chats with fellow RefuseFascism.org co-editors Coco Das and Paul Street about the aftermath of the 2022 midterms, Donald Trump declaring his 2024 candidacy and associated happenings this past week. Follow Coco on Twitter at @Coco_Das and subscribe to Paul on Substack at paulstreet.substack.com. Read Paul's book This Happened Here: Amerikaners, Neoliberals, and the Trumping of America .
Thursday, Dec. 1 From RiseUp4AbortionRights.org: Manifest in green and protest nationwide at courthouses around the country on Thursday December 1, the one-year anniversary of when the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in the case that overturned abortion rights. Through speeches, dramatic bloody die-ins, and in other ways, the protests should make clear that we cannot rely on the courts and have to rely on ourselves to rise up to win legal abortion on demand and without apology everywhere. Find or host a protest here: https://riseup4abortionrights.org/nov-25-dec-1/
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Sam Goldman interviews Bradley Onishi about his new book (available January 2023) Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism--and What Comes Next
Brad Onishi is a former insider in the Christian nationalist movement who spent seven years as a minister in Southern California. Listen to his podcast Straight White American Jesus, follow him on Twitter at @BradleyOnishi and sign up for updates at swaj.substack.com.
Thursday, Dec. 1
From RiseUp4AbortionRights.org: Manifest in green and protest nationwide at courthouses around the country on Thursday December 1, the one-year anniversary of when the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in the case that overturned abortion rights. Through speeches, dramatic bloody die-ins, and in other ways, the protests should make clear that we cannot rely on the courts and have to rely on ourselves to rise up to win legal abortion on demand and without apology everywhere. Find or host a protest here: https://riseup4abortionrights.org/nov-25-dec-1/
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Sam Goldman interviews writer Sarah Posner about antisemitism, Christian Zionism and increasing anti-trans hysteria in the radicalizing Republican Party. Read Sarah's recent piece The GOP’s Christian Supremacy Problem and follow her at sarahposner.com or on Twitter @sarahposner or mastodon.social/@sarahposner.
Also mentioned in this episode: The US Christian Right groups actively involved in voter suppression by Annika Brockschmidt and Doug Mastriano’s Prophets In Pennsylvania by Christopher Matthias
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Sam Goldman interviews writer Teddy Wilson about the latest developments from the fascist movement in the US, including the violent wing of the anti-abortion movement, the January 6th commission, and the wave of antisemitism coming from prominent powers and from their ground soldiers. Teddy chronicles the US fascist movement in detail at hist Substack: radicalreports.substack.com. Follow Teddy on Twitter at @reportbywilson.
Also mentioned in this episode:
Research by Carol Mason into the anti-abortion movement and links to antisemitism (check out Killing for Life: The Apocalyptic Narrative of Pro-life Politics).
Overturning Roe Has Meant At Least 10,000 Fewer Legal Abortions
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Sam Goldman interviews Andrew Seidel, a constitutional and civil rights attorney and the author of two books: The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-American and American Crusade: How the Supreme Court is Weaponizing Religious Freedom. He's also co-editor of an academic text, Law and Religion: Cases and Materials 5th Edition, with Prof. Leslie Griffin of UNLV law school. Andrew is a Senior Correspondent at Religion Dispatches, a prolific author of opeds and scholarly articles. He organized and contributed to the groundbreaking report “Christian Nationalismat the January 6, 2021, Insurrection,” which was published by the Baptist Joint Committee and FFRF and which aroused congressional interest. He’s appeared on Fox News to debate Bill O’Reilly, MSNBC, and hundreds of other media outlets. Andrew is the VP of Strategic Communications at Americans United for Separation of Church and State, the largest organization fighting for that founding principle. Andrew has a BS in neuroscience and several law degrees, each with honors and awards. Before dedicating his life and law degree to keeping state and church separate, Andrew was a Grand Canyon tour guide and an accomplished nature photographer. He's on all social media platforms including TikTok: @andrewlseidel and Twitter: @AndrewLSeidel.
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The courageous movement in Iran is reaching an incredibly inspiring new stage that needs to be understood, learned from and supported by people who care about justice everywhere.
To learn more about the situation, Sam Goldman interviews two experts on the topic: Jasmin Ramsey, Deputy Director of the Center for Human Rights in Iran (follow @ICHRI and @jasminramsey; website iranhumanrights.org) and Sussan Tahmasebi, Executive Director, FEMENA (follow @FemenaNet and @sussantweets; website femena.net).
Plus: commentary from Coco Das on latest from the Jan 6 hearings and the commission's vote to subpoena Trump.
*The translation of the Iranian protest anthem "Baraye" by Shervin Hajipour was done and sung by Rana Mansour. Find more from her at ranamusic.com.
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Sam Goldman interviews historian of fascism, Federico Finchelstein, about the upcoming run-off election in Brazil for incumbent fascist Bolsonaro vs. former president Lula da Silva. Follow Dr. Finchelstein on Twitter @FinchelsteinF.
Then, reflections on the 100 days since the federal right to abortion was overturned in the US and what it will take to restore this fundamental right - a Blue Wave or a Green Wave - from Sam and a student organizer with Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights. Register for the upcoming October 15 webinar with Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights here: https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_LtviN1YQRDyOKCVLvifG_Q
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Sam talks to Paul Street and Anthony DiMaggio about Trump’s open embrace of the fascist Qanon movement, the kidnapping of Venezuelan migrants by Florida governor Desantis, media and politicians’ normalization of fascism and much more. Paul Street is an historian and member of the Refuse Fascism editorial board, author of This Happened Here: Amerikaners, Neoliberals, and the Trumping of America; follow Paul on Twitter @Streetwriter17 and at paulstreet.org. Anthony DiMaggio is a political scientist and author of Rising Fascism in America: It Can Happen Here. Follow his work on Counterpunch. Note, this conversation was recorded before the fascist Meloni victory in Italy.
Salute to the courageous protesters fighting the theocracy in Iran this week! Must read: Iran's Feminist Revolution--Women, Life, Liberty by Mona Eltahawy.
Wednesday, September 28 is International Safe Abortion Day
In solidarity with women around the world, protest and publicly manifest: #Green4Abortion On September 28
Find out more at https://riseup4abortionrights.org/september-28/
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Sunsara Taylor, co-host of The RNL (Revolution Nothing Less) Show and one of the initiators of RiseUp4AbortionRights.org discusses the new post-Roe federal legislation introduced by Lindsey Graham which would ban abortions after 15 weeks, overriding all protections for abortion rights at the state level. Follow Sunsara on Twitter at @SunsaraTaylor.
Then, Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Heather Costello, an emergency room and hospice doctor in Chicago about the already terrible impact of the Dobbs decision, and expectations for the near and long-term future if we don’t rise up to stop the anti-abortion onslaught.
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Sam interviews independent journalist and researcher Teddy Wilson about the base for fascism in the US and how they are responding to recent events. Subscribe to Teddy’s regularly updated Substack at radicalreports.substack.com and follow him on Twitter at @reportbywilson.
Mentioned in this episode: The Oath Keepers Data Leak: Unmasking Extremism in Public Life from the ADL
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On the occasion of our 125th episode, RefuseFascism.org editorial board members Coco Das and Paul Street share recollections on the mission and analysis of the organization. Follow Coco Das on Twitter @Coco_Das. Read the statement Coco co-authored which was published in The New York Times as a full page advertisement days after the 2020 electoral defeat of Donald Trump here. Get Paul’s latest book, This Happened Here: Amerikaners, Neoliberals and the Trumping of America.
Plus: Sam Goldman shares commentary on what some are calling Joe Biden’s “1860 speech” and his recent use of the phrase “semi-fascist” to describe the Republican Party. Then, she interviews freelance journalist Laura Jedeed about the recent history of that fascist organization through the lens of CPAC (the Conservative Political Action Conference). Read Laura’s recent article on CPAC for The New Republic here and follow her on Twitter @LauraJedeed and on Substack: laurajedeed.substack.com.
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Sam Goldman interviews writer Kate Manning, author of My Notorious Life, a novel about a midwife and abortion provider from the 1800’s based on a true story. Read Manning’s op ed for The Washington Post, “Antiabortion laws are forced-birth laws. Here’s what that looks like.”
Follow Manning's work which includes other eloquent and pointed opinion pieces about women, abortion, and more, plus links to get her books, including her forthcoming novel Gilded Mountain at her website katemanningauthor.com.
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Sam Goldman interviews Leah Litman, Assistant Professor of Law and University of Michigan and cohost of Strict Scrutiny podcast, discussing the past, present and future of the Trump-appointee dominated SCOTUS. Follow Leah Litman on Twitter at @leahlitman.
Plus: Merle Hoffman, one of the co-founders of Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights speaking at the Society for Ethical Culture. Follow @RiseUp4Abortion and @MerleHoffman.
Read the dissent to Dobbs v. Jackson here: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22067295-dobbs-dissent
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Sam interviews Dr. Henry Giroux, renowned educator and author of recently published pieces The Nazification of American Education and The US Is Descending Into a Crisis of Overt Fascism. There’s Still a Way Out.
Also see Florida students return to schools reshaped by Gov. DeSantis' anti-'woke' education agenda.
Follow Dr. Giroux on Twitter at @HenryGiroux and visit his website at henryagiroux.com.
The FBI raid of Trump's Mar-a-Lago is increasing pressure on Trump. In this situation, there is continuing danger and positive potential for the people to weaken a fascist leader and movement. But left on its own, without a mass showing of opposition to what Trump stands for, it will not be enough.
Trump and his GOP have been incredibly resilient, finding opportunities to turn their "defeats" into opportunities for further hardening of a fascist core. Look at how his supporters are responding to the raid. Every setback he has weathered has led to more vengeance and violence. This is a key lesson of January 6th.
There is no lack of evidence against Trump. But the problem w/ Trump & Co has never been finding the stuff. There is if anything a glut of evidence. That he still leads his movement despite all this evidence is part of why he is so effective and celebrated.
Right now, the corrupt ex-president of S. Korea is serving a 20-year sentence. In 2016 and 2017, it took 20 successive Saturday night rallies bringing 16 million into the streets to get her impeached. She was arrested shortly after being driven out of office.
Trump and his GOP are planning Coup 2.0. If we allow that to go down, they will be all out for revenge and the stakes for humanity will be exponentially higher.
Fascism can & is happening here & it can't simply be voted away. Relying on official channels, on voting alone, on the Democrats to remedy this instead of taking to the streets in a sustained way has led to inaction & conciliation with fascism.
The question remains, what will the decent people do? Will the future be fascist, or will we act?
In the Name of Humanity, We Refuse to Accept a Fascist America!
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Sam interviews writer and pundit Danielle Moodie about the current state of fascism in the United States and how to actually stand up to the fascist bullies (hint: it’s not what the Democrats are doing right now). Listen to Danielle every weekday on her podcast Woke AF and every week on Democracy-ish (with Wajahat Ali). Follow her on Twitter at @deetwocents on Instagram @deetwocents at and on TikTok at @daniellemoodie_.
Note: Abortion remains legal for now in West Virginia as the House and Senate failed to agree on a bill.
Support the abortion rights protesters arrested in LA for staging a dramatic civil disobedience art statement at the LACMA museum here.
*No show next week - the next episode will be released 8/14/22.
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Sam speaks to the Rachael Wachstein (first interviewed on Episode #35 in December 2020 - find her on Facebook) again, this time to discuss Robert Crimo, Jr., the mass shooter who murdered people at the Highland Park July 4 parade this year, 2022. Wachstein witnessed not only this horrific event but recognized Crimo as one of the pro-Trump "Stop the Steal" fascists she had been counter-protesting in her community over the past couple of years. She makes a forceful case for his fascist motivations and discusses why it's so hard for people to take these violent fascists seriously as an organized movement, rather than "lone wolves."
Background info and debate on the motivations of the Highland Park shooter at The Forward.
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It's just a few weeks into the hellscape that is a post-Roe United States... Sam and Mark chat about just a few of the stories that have come out in recent weeks illustrating the growing catastrophe. Donate to support the Indiana doctor currently under fire from fascist forces for providing abortion care to a 10 year old rape victim who traveled from Ohio here.
Recommended Reading:
They Will Never Believe Us by Jessica Valenti
Dr. Caitlin Bernard Was Meant to Write This With Me Before She Was Attacked for Doing Her Job by Tracey A. Wilkinson
Plus: some of the latest revelations on Trump's fascist coup attempt, which stretched far before the Jan 6th attack on the Capitol, see a few of our previous episodes to look deeper into the lead up:
#36 Eric Boehlert: Trump plots martial law from White House — the press shrugs (Jan 3, 2021)
#35 If it could happen there, it could happen here (Dec 27, 2020)
#33 "Fight for Trump" = Fight for Fascism (Dec 13, 2020)
Also: RiseUp4AbortionRights.org has been subjected to a series of scurrilous Cointelpro-style attacks from both fascist and progressive publications and organizations. See:
We Need Honest Debate, Not Unprincipled Attacks: A Further Response to the Attacks On Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights by Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights co-initiators Merle Hoffman, Lori Sokol, Sunsara Taylor
Also find responses from Sunsara Taylor and the Revcoms:
In Reply to the Reactionary Hit Piece in the Daily Beast: Why I DO Follow Bob Avakian... and Why YOU Should Too by Sunsara Taylor
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Sam interviews Dr. Thomas Lecaque about apocalyptic Christianity, the GOP in 2022 and the medieval roots of support for secular fascists like Trump from Christian nationalists. Read his recent articles Patriot Front and the Next Stage of the Culture War, "Jesus, guns, babies": Religious violence is now at the core of the Republican Party, and this piece from 2019 in The Washington Post: The apocalyptic myth that helps explain evangelical support for Trump.
Follow Dr. Lecaque on Twitter @tlecaque and on LinkedIn.
Also mentioned in this episode:
Gospel According to the Klan by Kelly Baker
Check out the latest statement at riseup4abortionrights.org: The Overturning of Abortion Rights Is ILLEGITIMATE! This Decision Must Not Stand. Into the Streets to Demand: The Federal Government Must Restore NATIONWIDE LEGAL ABORTION NOW!
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Sam and Coco Das discuss Coco's new article for The Independent: Roe has been overturned and women’s bodies are no longer their own in America. Here’s what to do now. Follow Coco at @Coco_Das.
Over the past couple weeks SCOTUS has issued a series of rulings that flag that they are no longer concerned with the appearance of legitimacy: rights no longer need to be read to people arrested by the police, states cannot issue laws restricting who can conceal guns, and the EPA cannot prevent power plants from filling the air with pollution. They also agreed to hear a case that would enable state legislatures to conduct elections according to whatever procedures they set... and of course overturned the constitutional right to abortion, setting in motion the chaos we're seeing across the country as clinics shut down and patients, including a 10 year old rape victim from Ohio, have had to travel great distances to obtain access to abortion.
Where do we go from here? Check out riseup4abortionrights.org which is calling for continued mobilization in the street to demand the full reinstatement of the right to legal abortion at a national level. Read the response to unprincipled and divisive attacks. Read Coco's speech from the protest in Austin, Texas here: We can turn this around, not as the people we are now but as the people we become through this struggle.
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On our first post-Roe episode, we share some of the voices from the streets over the last couple days outside the Supreme Court demanding the federal government restore the fundamental right to abortion across the country NOW, including Sunsara Taylor (@sunsarataylor), Paxton Smith (@paxtonsmith) and youth organizers.
Then, writer and pundit Wajahat Ali talks to Sam about the January 6 hearings which have unearthed in great detail (though not exhaustive, as Ginni Thomas's key role continues to be obscured) the Trump regime's attempted coup plot. Read his latest piece for The Daily Beast: No, Our Institutions Didn’t Hold After Jan. 6—Just Look at the GOP and follow him on Twitter at @WajahatAli.
How are we accepting a ruling that reverses a fundamental right for more than half the population, issued by an illegitimate court full of fascists appointed by a (perhaps soon-to-be-indicted) criminal?
Answer: we're not. Check out the latest at RiseUp4AbortionRights.org.
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Sam Goldman takes a break from protesting outside the Supreme Court to interview writer Jill Filipovic about the looming abortion rights disaster. Follow Jill’s work at jill.substack.com and follow her on Twitter at @JillFilipovic.
Then, Sunsara Taylor interviews lawyer and host of the Amicus podcast Dahlia Lithwick about the legal rationale behind overturning the right to abortion and the many other implications to individual freedom in the US (this interview originally appeared on The Revolution Nothing Less show).
Tuesday, June 21 at 9am, RiseUp4AbortionRights.org is calling for people to Come to the Supreme Court in DC and Stay; STOP the Supreme Court from Taking Away Abortion Rights! Find out more and get involved at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Federico Finchelstein on the recent Op Ed he wrote with Dr. Jason Stanley in the LA Times: White replacement theory is fascism’s new name. Follow @FinchelsteinF on Twitter and check out his newest book, Fascist Mythologies: The History and Politics of Unreason in Borges, Freud, and Schmitt.
Recommended reading:
The first January 6 hearing served up surprising revelations — that all point to Trump (Ben Jacobs in Vox)
Jan. 6 Committee Details Proud Boys, Oath Keepers Involvement in Capitol Insurrection (SPLC)
Elegy for a lost America: Will the Jan. 6 committee really change anything? (Jeff Sharlet in Salon)
Buffalo: A Brutal Killer… A Heartless White-Supremacist System (Revcom.us)
Let Us Prey (Rafia Zakaria in The Baffler)
This coming week, RiseUp4AbortionRights.org is calling for people to Come to the Supreme Court in DC and Stay; STOP the Supreme Court from Taking Away Abortion Rights! Find out more and get involved at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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In the aftermath of the horrific massacre of schoolchildren in Uvalde, Texas, which was close on the heels of a white supremacist killing spree in Buffalo, NY, we’re re-sharing the extremely relevant interview Sam Goldman did with Dr. Carol Anderson in November 2021. Dr. Anderson is the Charles Howard Candler Professor and Chair of African American Studies at Emory University and the author of White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide, One Person, No Vote: How Voter Suppression is Destroying Our Democracy, and her latest book The Second: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America which was the focus of this conversation. Follow Dr. Anderson at professorcarolanderson.org and @ProfCAnderson.
Then, we share a few clips from the protests this past week demanding abortion rights. Featured voices include Mark Ruffalo, Kayli Carter, Sunsara Taylor and some of the students who walked out of school to shut down the Brooklyn Bridge in NYC. Find out more about next steps to mobilize for abortion rights at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Coco Das @Coco_Das and Sam Goldman @SamBGoldman have been busy rallying people in the streets with RiseUp4AbortionRights.org over the past couple weeks - we share some of those speeches today. Join in nationwide protests this Thursday May 26 to raise your voice and raise hell as SCOTUS is on the verge of overturning Roe and allowing many abortion bans to go through. Find or organize a protest here.
Recommended reading:
CPAC Hungary: Global right doubles down on "replacement" theory: "This is what tyrants do"
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More than 400 cities on Saturday May 14 saw protests demanding the Supreme Court not overturn Roe. We share some of the voices from a protest in NYC including Merle Hoffman, Founder/CEO Choices Women's Medical Center and an initiator of RiseUp4AbortionRights.org, Rosita Romero, Executive Director, Dominican Women's Development Center, Elizabeth Holtzman, former U.S. Representative and District Attorney of Brooklyn, and Sunsara Taylor, Co-Host of the RNL (Revolution Nothing Less) Show on Youtube & a key initiator of RiseUp4AbortionRights.org.
From RiseUp4AbortionRights.org:
Ok, so we protested May 14 and then stay home right? WRONG! STAY IN THE STREETS!!!!!
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A draft version of the Supreme Court decision overturning Roe on the most retrograde basis has been leaked, authored by Samuel Alito. Coco Das (@Coco_Das) interviews Susana Chiarotti, Latin American Liaison for the Sisterhood is Global Institute about the global implications of this ruling and the immediate challenge facing the abortion rights movement in the US. Read her recent article for the Miami Herald: While Roe v. Wade is under attack in the U.S., Latin American women are winning abortion rights. Then, we share some of the voices from the street protests and student walkouts that happened this week as emergency responses to the pending SCOTUS decision.
Find out more about the national week of action to defend the right to abortion in the US May 8 - 14 at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Coco Das interviews Boston Globe columnist Marcela García about her recent piece about the “Green Wave” movements in Latin America that have decriminalized abortion in Argentina, Colombia and Mexico. Read Latin America moves forward in legalizing abortion as the US rolls back access. What gives? Follow Marcela on Twitter at @marcela_elisa.
Listen to the solidarity statement from Ana Cristina Gonzalez Vélez from the movement in Colombia to Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights. Find out more about the national week of action to defend the right to abortion in the US May 8 - 14 at riseup4abortionrights.org.
Note: mentioned in this episode are the anti-abortion bans which are referred to as "heartbeat bills" however there is no beating heart in an embryo at 6 weeks, only pulsating embryonic cardiac cells.
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We share voices from activists with Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights who traveled to Kentucky, the scene of the latest state-level showdown against abortion rights.
Then: Trump is shoring up support in local legislatures in preparation for his 2024 run for the presidency while revelations of the continuing domination of the GOP continue (including Kevin McCarthy’s lies and craven subservience to Trump in the face of recordings of himself acknowledging Trump’s role in leading the coup attempt). We share some highlights from interviews over the past year with guests discussing the January 6th coup attempt and implications for the future. Excerpted interviews with Elie Honig, Dr. Jo-Marie Burt, Dr. Anthony DiMaggio, Dahlia Lithwick, Walter Masterson, and Dr. Samuel Perry.
Also mentioned in this episode: Student Walkouts Against "Don't Say Gay" Law + Stopping Business as Usual
Find out more about the national week of action to defend the right to abortion May 18 - 15 at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Sunsara Taylor interviews young activists from around the country who helped organize #RiseUp4AbortionRights protests this past weekend about what fuels their determination to stand up for the right to abortion and how in fact, it's not too late to turn the tide.
Find out more about the national week of action May 18 - 15 at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Sam Goldman interviews Juniper Porter, an activist with Trans Resistance of Texas (TROT) - an organization that recently held a die-in on the steps of the Texas State Capitol in support of trans rights (see press coverage). Follow @TRoT on Twitter and find more actions against the tsunami of anti-trans laws in states across the country at tearitup.org. One correction from Juniper on the number of anti-trans bills in Texas last session: the actual figures include 30 anti-LGBT bills, 13 of which are specifically directed at trans people.
Then, we share some of the voices of abortion rights protesters who took to the streets yesterday in cities around the country, as we approach the tipping point this spring against the right to safe, legal abortion in this country. If the US Supreme Court overturns or guts Roe v. Wade, 26 states are certain or likely to ban abortion.
Only the people can stop this - join the organizing summit on Zoom Saturday, April 16. Find out more about the national week of action May 18 - 15 at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Sunsara Taylor (The RNL Show, We Only Want the World on WPFW and WBAI) interviews feminist, novelist, playwright and director Sikivu Hutchinson about the abortion crisis and more. Follow her work at sikivuhutchinson.com and on Twitter: @sikivuhutch.
If the US Supreme Court overturns or guts Roe v. Wade, 26 states are certain or likely to ban abortion.
April 8: Wear #Green4Abortion
April 9: March & Rally for Abortion Rights
Find out where to be: riseup4abortionrights.org
Also mentioned in this episode: take action to support Justyna Wydrzyńska, for helping a woman in an abusive relationship obtain abortion pills in Poland: jakjustyna.aborcyjnydreamteam.pl/en/
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We share the presentation from a recent webinar held with historian and writer Paul Street, member of the Refuse Fascism editorial board. Paul's most recent book is This Happened Here: Amerikaners, Neoliberals, and the Trumping of America. Follow his work at paulstreet.org and @Streetwriter17. Read his recent article On Putin, the Ukraine War, the United States and Fascism on Counterpunch.
If the US Supreme Court overturns or guts Roe v. Wade, 26 states are certain or likely to ban abortion.
April 8: Wear #Green4Abortion
April 9: March & Rally for Abortion Rights
Find out more: riseup4abortionrights.org
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Sam Goldman interviews Annika Brockschmidt, German freelance journalist and podcast host, author of America's Holy Warriors: How the Religious Rights Endangers Democracy.
Follow Annika on Twitter at @ardenthistorian. If you speak German you will want to check out her podcast (co-hosted with recent Refuse Fascism podcast guest Thomas Zimmer), Kreuz und Flagge (Cross and Flag). Read her recent piece on Religion Dispatches: Don’t Laugh at Rick Scott’s ‘Plan to Rescue America’ or Be Fooled by Reports of a ‘Backlash’ — His Only Mistake Was Revealing the Truth of Today’s GOP
Then, we share a clip of a conversation with Andy Zee and Paul Street, members of the Refuse Fascism editorial board, from The RNL Show, discussing Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine, and what a US-enforced "no fly zone" actually means. Read Paul's recent article: Let Us Not Talk Falsely Now: Reflections on War, Peace, and Ukraine.
Recommended Reading on Abortion Rights Emergency:
Florida’s Abortion Ban Will Obliterate Access in the South by Anna Eskamani
The Pseudoscience That Could Kill Women by Sarah Jones
RiseUp4AbortionRights.org is calling for more emergency mobilizations; find out more at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Sam Goldman interviews student organizers of recent walk-outs in Florida against the new law excluding LGBTQ people from primary school curricula. Then, voices from the International Women's Day march for abortion on demand and without apology including: Michelle Xai, Merle Hoffman, Lori Sokol, Kathy Najimy, Dr. Bruce Price, Beila, Betty, Araceli Herrera, Sunsara Taylor, Rev. Jacqui Lewis, and V (formerly Eve Ensler).
Translated remarks from Araceli Herrera: "I was raped. I suffered for years. I was made fun of by people, by my neighbors, by my family. But the worst people were the ones that made the laws that prohibits abortions. And today I’ve stopped crying. Today is the day we begin to take to the streets and scream loudly. I have the right to choose! I have the right to have an abortion! Because it is my life, because it is my body! Because we have the right to decide! It’s my choice! I won’t allow them to take it away. Women, raise your voice! Get into the streets! Starting today until the day of the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court decision that will affect our lives. Let’s get out and shout: we will not allow you to take away our right!"
RiseUp4AbortionRights.org is calling for meetings next weekend to organize for more emergency mobilizations; find out more at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Sam Goldman interviews Marc Eliot Stein with World Beyond War about Russia's attack on Ukraine and what comes next. Follow Marc on Twitter at @asheresque and listen to the World Beyond War podcast here: worldbeyondwar.org/podcast.
Recommended reading: A Hellish War in Ukraine: Where the Hell Did This Come From?
Then, we share voices from the abortion rights speakout Feb. 27th in front of St. Patrick’s Cathedral, New York City hosted by RiseUp4AbortionRights.org, calling on people to take to the streets for International Women's Day on March 8. Find a protest near you.
Right now: help organize for mobilizations this spring to demand abortion rights at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Sam Goldman shares thoughts and commentary on the latest fascist developments domestic and international. Then we share Sunsara Taylor's remarks from an event Feb. 16 at Revolution Books in Harlem on the abortion rights emergency in the US and a powerful call to action now - before Roe is overturned.
Original video of Sunsara Taylor's remarks
Recommended reading on the crisis with Russia and Ukraine:
The antisemitism animating Putin’s claim to ‘denazify’ Ukraine
by Jason Stanley
Shameless American Chauvinism: “Anti-Authoritarianism” as a “Cover” For Supporting U.S. Imperialism
by Bob Avakian
Right now: help organize for mobilizations this spring to demand abortion rights at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Coco Das interviews Steven Mesaros on the fascist trucker convoys that have been harassing and terrorizing residents of Ottawa for several weeks. Mesaros is a Canadian political science Ph.D student studying emerging far-right authoritarian movements. Follow him on Twitter at @RestoreTheReal. Then, Coco talks to some of the activists who mobilized in Ottawa against the convoys after the authorities refused to act to stop them, successfully shutting them down and even persuading some of them to go home. Follow these Canadian organizers: Andrea Harden (@andiharden), Sam Hersh (@SamHersh01) and David Chernushenko (@chernushenko).
Recommended reading on the fascist convoys:
For many inside the Freedom Convoy, faith fuels the resistance
The So-Called “Truckers’ Protest”:A Major Initiative by Canadian—and International—Fascist Forces
The whole world should be worried by the ‘siege of Ottawa’. This is about much more than a few anti-vaxx truckers
Tweet Coco Das at @Coco_Das. Right now: help organize for mobilizations this spring to demand abortion rights at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Sam Goldman interviews Anne Nelson, author of Shadow Network: Media, Money, and the Secret Hub of the Radical Right (get your paperback copy, updated after January 6th) and Research Scholar at Columbia University. Find more of her work at anne-nelson.com and follow her on Twitter at @anelsona. Her work investigating the Council for National Policy (CNP), which includes many well-known and not-so-well-known actors is essential for understanding the fascist movement in the US. Also see: "Religious Right Fuels National Attack On School Boards, Exploiting Parental Frustration Over Covid Restraints" in the Washington Spectator.
The conversation was rich with agreement as well as some disagreements, and we always appreciate the opportunity to dig into these substantive issues and the paths forward to solve the continuing crisis. Also mentioned in this episode: Inside Patriot Front: The Masked White Supremacists On A Nationwide Hate Crime Spree.
Right now: help organize for mobilizations this spring to demand abortion rights at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Sam Goldman interviews Tony Wolf, actor and artist (view his diverse resume at tonywolfactor.com) about fascism, culture, and cultivating a variety of forms of pushback against the fascists. His comic essay “Where is Evil?” can be seen at brokenfrontier.com where he writes, “I sought to share my personal reflections as I grappled with how to process the acts of the Trump administration and the GOP / conservative supporters who have backed this utterly vile man.” Follow him on Twitter at @tonywolfness.
Right now: help organize for mobilizations this spring to demand abortion rights at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Coco Das interviews Dr. Anthony DiMaggio, author of the new book, Rising Fascism in America (order from Routledge here). Dr. DiMaggio is Associate Professor of Political Science at Lehigh University. His research emphasizes the interactions between politics, social movements, the news media, and the American right. He is the author of 9 books, including Political Power in America (2019), Rebellion in America (Routledge 2020) and Unequal America (Routledge 2021). He has been an active participant in social movement politics for the last two decades, and is an avid social commentator. Follow his writings at Counterpunch.org. Dr. DiMaggio previously appeared on episode 27: Our System is Not Equipped to Deal With a Bad Actor Like Trump.
Plus voices from the launch of Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights on the 49th anniversary of Roe V. Wade January 2: Sunsara Taylor, Lori Sokol, Merle Hoffman and Katea Stitt.
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Refuse Fascism helped kick off Rise Up For Abortion Rights (riseup4abortionrights.org) yesterday in Washington, D.C. (Common Dreams coverage). Get involved in this initiative and help plan protests around the country starting immediately and growing into this spring - register for the Zoom organizing conference January 30, 2 - 4pm Eastern here.
This week, Sam interviews author and investigative reporter Kathryn Joyce on the power of ideology in the fascist movement; especially how and why Hungary is a model for the GOP. Follow Joyce on Twitter at @kathrynajoyce and find more of her work at kathrynjoyce.com. Read her recent piece for Salon: "Parental rights" started on the Christian fringe — now it's the GOP's winning issue and for The New Republic: The New Right’s Grim, Increasingly Popular Fantasies of an International Nationalism.
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Mark interviews Sam Goldman about the new project aiming to mobilize and actually defeat the assault on abortion rights, riseup4abortionrights.org.
Read and sign the new statement to Rise Up for Abortion Rights here. Share it on social media. Join us at noon on Jan 22, at the Supreme Court in DC, and going forward nationwide — fighting to WIN!
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Sam Goldman talks to Samuel Perry, associate professor of sociology at the University of Oklahoma, about his research into the American Christian Nationalist movement. Follow him on Twitter at @socofthesacred. Read his two recent articles in Time magazine: January 6th May Have Been Only the First Wave of Christian Nationalist Violence and How Trump Stole Christmas—And Why Evangelicals Rally to Their Savior. Order his new book The Flag and the Cross: White Christian Nationalism and the Threat to American Democracy.
From the Refuse Fascism Statement on First Anniversary of January 6 Fascist Coup Attempt:
The January 6 coup attempt demonstrated that fascism is not just the worst of a pendulum swing. It is an all-out assault on the rule of law aiming to strip democratic rights from whole groups of people they see as sub-human. Trump and his fascist movement have torn up the norms and thrown out the rule book, yet the outrage and hopes of people on the side of justice keep getting diverted into the very channels that are being eviscerated, and away from the kind of deep, mass, society-wide struggle that is needed.
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Coco Das (@Coco_Das) interviews historian Thomas Zimmer (@tzimmer_history) about “polarization” in American politics and the shared agenda of white Christian domination across a spectrum of right-wing political forces.
At this time last year, January 6th was on the horizon. Trump’s big lie was already taking hold among millions of people. And for months, Refuse Fascism had been sounding the alarm and organizing ongoing, sustained, non-violent protests to change the trajectory of Trump’s base marauding through the streets while the decent people hid in their “safe spaces.” This is a situation that still needs to be transformed. As long as the fascist threat looms, it is up to all of us to understand and act to stop fascism from consolidating in this country, and Refuse Fascism will continue to bring you these conversations and our analysis of things as they develop.
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Refuse Fascism exposes, analyzes, and stands against the very real danger and threat of fascism coming to power in this country. Through this show Refuse Fascism has engaged, dialogued, and debated with a broad array of writers, scholars, legal experts, and people from different walks of life on the roots, nature, and trajectory of fascism in this country. Through our engagement and networking with people and social movements, we are forging understanding and relationships aimed at preventing the consolidation of fascism. Here's a sampling of the impressive range of voices that have participated in this show over the past year:
Andy Zee
Rosanna Arquette
Rev. William Lamar, IV
Cornel West
Ruth Ben-Ghiat
Federico Finchelstein
Rosie O’Donnell
Jason Stanley
Anthea Butler
Sarah Posner
Jared Yates Sexton
Bandy Lee
Paul Street
Dahlia Lithwick
Eric Boehlert
Walden Bello
Brynn Tannehill
Wajahat Ali
David Atkins
Tony Norman
Carol Anderson
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Two interviews this week about the fascist assault on the right to abortion and the re-assertion of violent misogyny that it is a part of: Soraya Chemaly, author of Rage Becomes Her (@schemaly, sorayachemaly.com) and Chelsea Ebin, co-founder and fellow at the Institute for Research on Male Supremacism (@crrebin, malesupremacism.org).
Plus: commentary about the latest developments from the January 6 commission.
Referenced in this episode:
Washington Post Opinion: 3 retired generals: The military must prepare now for a 2024 insurrection by Paul D. Eaton, Antonio M. Taguba and Steven M. Anderson
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"Highlights" from this week in fascism and future coup attempts (recommended reading: Trump’s Next Coup Has Already Begun) including the “options for January 6” PowerPoint uncovered by the January 6 commission and Matt Gaetz on Steve Bannon's podcast this past Thursday. Gaetz said an "army of patriots" should get ready now to "fight" for the US - Bannon said "shock troops" divided into teams could take over some 4,000 government positions. This is three things: a threat, a strategy, and also an exposure of what happened the first time around.
Then, Sunsara Taylor (The RNL Show) on the moves to overturn Roe v. Wade and a conversation with an Ann Arbor based activist who traveled to the Michigan State Capitol on Dec 1 to shut down the State Legislature and sound the alarm on the emergency for abortion rights. Read Jessica Prozinski's piece Michigan Activists Shut Down Legislature to Read Statement on Abortion.
Much is made of the fact that the majority of Americans support Roe v Wade. But it’s meaningless to simply state that without backing it up. The history of fascism has shown us that dominating the public square and the public discourse – whether or not they have majority opinion on their side, goes a long way in determining whether fascism prevails or not.
A majority of obedient Americans are no obstacle to these Christian fascists. But even a portion of that majority of people in the streets – waging a sustained, non-violent struggle to say hell no, you’re not slamming women back to the days of back alley abortions and forced pregnancy, this makes it known to the whole world who the majority is and what they’re willing to put on the line.
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Coco Das (@Coco_Das) speaks to an activist who traveled to Washington DC this week to protest for abortion rights as the Supreme Court heard opening arguments in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization - the case which is primed to overturn Roe v. Wade and enable abortion bans in more than half the states in the US. Mentioned in this conversation: Will Supreme Court conservatives overturn Roe? Their casual contempt for women is not a good sign by Amanda Marcotte on Salon.
Then, Coco talks to Paul Street about the state of fascism and the state of fascism denial as we near the close of 2021. Paul Street is the author of ten books including his latest, This Happened Here: Neoliberals, Amerikaners, and the Trumping of America, which is about to be published. Follow his work at paulstreet.org.
We really can’t overstate the importance of having a presence in the streets – in the public square – over the next few months. Much is made of the 8/10 Americans who support Roe v Wade. But it’s meaningless to simply state that without backing it up. The history of fascism has shown us that dominating the public square and the public discourse – whether or not they have majority opinion on their side, goes a long way in determining whether fascism prevails or not. 8/10 obedient Americans are no obstacle to these Christian fascists. But 8/10 people in the streets – even 5/10 waging a sustained, non-violent struggle to say hell no, you’re not slamming women back to the days of back alley abortions and forced pregnancy, this makes it known to the whole world who the majority is and what they’re willing to put on the line.
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Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Carol Anderson, the Charles Howard Candler Professor and Chair of African American Studies at Emory University and the author of White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide, One Person, No Vote: How Voter Suppression is Destroying Our Democracy, and her latest book The Second: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America which was the focus of this conversation. Follow Dr. Anderson at professorcarolanderson.org and @ProfCAnderson.
Topics covered in this episode: the shameful Rittenhouse acquittal, the complicity of local police in the lynching of Ahmaud Arbery, and the defeat of the federal charges against the Unite the Right rally organizers… where does this all come from and how does this relate to a fascist offensive that involves a whole fascist movement that attempted a violent coup on January 6 to overturn an election? How does it relate to the GOP which has since purged itself of anyone disagrees, and the deepened and hardened belief of millions in their fascist base that this violence was righteous and may be necessary in the future? How does all this fit together? Where is all this going? Where does it come from? And where do we go from here?
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On Wednesday December 1, the Supreme Court will hear Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, where the state of Mississippi had specifically asked the Court to overrule Roe v. Wade.
What needs to be heard outside SCOTUS & nationwide: Abortion on Demand & Without Apology! In the Name of Humanity We Refuse To Accept a Fascist America! The future of abortion access hangs in the balance! For more background on this case, what is at stake, and it’s connection the whole fascist onslaught go back and check out two episodes from earlier this fall: Episode 82 When Is It Time to Break the Law? and Episode 78 on the Abortion Rights Emergency.
Wednesday Dec 1 Abortion Rights Actions (see StrikeforChoice.org for more):
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Coco Das interviews Jonathan Friedman, PEN America, about their new report titled "Educational Gag Orders" about the onslaught of legislation restricting public education in the US about race, gender and American history (pen.org/report/educational-gag-orders). Friedman is the director of free expression and education at PEN America, where he oversees advocacy, analysis, and outreach to educational communities and academic institutions. Follow Friedman at @jzfriedman and PEN at @PENAmerica.
Audio included from interviews with Justin Blake and Bishop Tavis Grant of the Rainbow Push Coalition was excerpted from NBC Chicago. Also mentioned in this episode: The Fight Against the White Supremacist Whitewash and Fascist Suppression of Historical Truth by Rafael Kadaris.
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Sam Goldman and Coco Das discuss the Kyle Rittenhouse trial in the proper context of the fascist movement he is a part of. Recommended reading: Coco’s recent article The Rittenhouse Trial and Two Sides in Contention: A Beautiful Rising or Rising Fascism and Reflections on Kenosha by Paul Street. Follow Coco Das on Twitter at @Coco_Das and Paul at @Streetwriter17
We’re continuing to pay special attention to the three trials with tremendous stakes:
In Charlottesville, Virginia: The federal civil trial of 24 white supremacist groups and individuals who came to Charlottesville in August 2017 and unleashed fascist violence that led to the murder of Heather Heyer.
In Brunswick, Georgia: the case against Gregory McMichael, Travis McMichael, and William Bryan who are on trial for hunting down and murdering Ahmaud Arbery, an unarmed 25-year-old Black man who was out on a jog.
And in Kenosha, Wisconsin: The criminal murder trial for Kyle Rittenhouse who traveled with an AR-15 to a Black Lives Matter protest in Kenosha where he shot and killed two protesters and wounded another.
All three concentrate the fascist mobs and threats of violence that are being unleashed to build the fascist movement and consolidate power & it reflects the ways in which there is an assault on the rule of law in this country and the most vicious overt white supremacy that threads it all together.
ALSO: Penn America released a report this week exposing what they are calling educational gag orders that outline how lawmakers in nearly half the country this year have tried to muzzle educators in regards to topics that include racism, sexism, and American history. As detailed in the report from January to September, a total of 54 bills concerning K-12 schools, higher education institutions and state agencies were introduced, the report says. Eleven of those bills have become laws in nine states, including Texas, Tennessee and Oklahoma. Read more here: pen.org/report/educational-gag-orders
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After the discussion with Coco Das, Sam interviews Vara Ramakrishnan with Strike for Choice on their plans to take action on Dec 1 and how you can join. Dec 1 is the day the Supreme Court will hear Dobbs vs Whole Womens Health, the case which poses an imminent threat to abortion rights and the possible wholesale gutting of Roe v Wade. You can take action wherever you are to refuse to go along with the evisceration of this essential right with the hashtag #StrikeForChoice. Find out more at www.strikeforchoice.org
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Legal analyst and former federal and state prosecutor Elie Honig discusses what we know about the January 6th insurrection and any chances for real accountability (hint: the DOJ/Merrick Garland would have to take action and there is zero indication that they are going to do so). In addition to watching him on CNN, you can follow on Twitter @eliehonig, read his book Hatchet Man: How Bill Barr Broke the Prosecutor's Code and Corrupted the Justice Department and listen to his podcast Up Against the Mob.
Mentioned in this episode
Andy Zee in Conversation with Paul Street on The Revolution Nothing Less Show: Two Separate Nations: Developments in the State of Fascism and How That Is Shaping the Political Situation
Gregg Gonsalves: COVID, Public Health & U.S. Mythology
Fascist Mobs: 1850 to Today
Wajahat Ali: The Death March of White Supremacy
Holocaust Survivor: It Could Happen Here
Meanwhile
After the Virginia election, everyone who’s not a fascist seems to be playing the blame game over electoral strategy. But fascism’s advance runs deeper. As this week's elections in VA show, Republicans don't have to cheat to win. The danger is real that Republican legislatures in states like Arizona, Georgia, Texas erect enough barriers to the ballot and destroy enough democratic norms their party simply cannot lose a close race.
Freespeechforthepeople.org is urging Attorney General Merrick Garland to resign from his post after nine months of inaction to hold Trump and his allies accountable for inciting the January 6th insurrection and other federal crimes they may have committed. It’s good that people are refusing to accept this accommodation to fascism. That said, it’s time for people to recognize that it isn’t just one or another individual doing this - but that ‘democratic’ norms, institutions, and the Democratic Party can’t be relied on to handle this threat. As revolutionary leader Bob Avakian has aptly stated, “The Democrats are committed to 'playing by the rules' and 'relying on the norms' of 'democratic' capitalist dictatorship, while the Republicans are moving to tear up those norms and rule through an open, undisguised capitalist dictatorship.”
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Epidemiologist Gregg Gonsalves, discusses his recent piece for The Nation America as a “Shining City on a Hill”—and Other Myths to Die By with Sam Goldman. Follow Gregg on Twitter at @gregggonsalves.
More recommended listening on the politics of the pandemic: COVID: A Case Study with Life & Death Stakes: Science, Epistemology, Conspiracy & Fascism.
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Valerie Elverton Dixon, Ph.D., discusses her recent essay When It Is Time to Break the Law with Sam Goldman, along with the abortion rights emergency and the strategy and tactics that will meet the current crisis. Follow Dr. Dixon's writings at justpeacetheory.com.
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Coco Das (@coco_das) interviews Ana Ramón (@ana_ramon89), Director of Advocacy for the Intercultural Development Research Association (IDRA) about the new legislation that takes aim at anti-racist and truthful teaching of social studies and other subjects for students in Texas. Follow IDRA @IDRAedu and Texas Legislative Education Equity Coalition (TLEEC) at @txtleec.
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Walter Masterson is a comedian known for going deep into Trump territory. Follow him on Instagram: waltermasterson Twitter: @waltermasterson or TikTok: @waltermasterson and watch his YouTube videos. He talks with Sam Goldman about why the Trump movement is deadly serious. Then, Sam talks to Andy Zee, one of the initiators of Refuse Fascism and a host of The Revolution Nothing Less Show on YouTube about the movement against fascism in the US.
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Rafia Zakaria, attorney, political philosopher, and author of the new book Against White Feminism talks about abortion, Afghanistan, empire, individualism, white supremacy and more with Sam Goldman. Follow Rafia on Twitter at @rafiazakaria.
Mentioned in the conversation: The Other Afghan Women by Anand Gopal.
Rallies for abortion rights were held around the country yesterday in response to the abortion ban in Texas and the plans for the Supreme Court to overturn Roe this year. Continued and spreading protest is needed now - get in touch with Refuse Fascism organizers by emailing info@refusefascism.org.
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The extreme Texas Abortion Ban caught most people by surprise. Next month, the Supreme Court is scheduled to hear a direct challenge to the 1973 landmark Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion. This round table aims to sound the alarm on this assault on women’s fundamental rights, deepen understanding of the stakes, arouse people’s fighting spirit to not let this go down, and explore what kind of future is possible and worth fighting for.
Hosted by Sunsara Taylor, writer for revcom.us, host and producer of We Only Want the World on WBAI and WPFW, and co-host of The RNL — Revolution, Nothing Less — Show.
The program includes:
A legal break-down by Dahlia Lithwick, who writes about the courts and the law for Slate and hosts the podcast Amicus.
A message from courageous abortion provider, Dr. Warren Hern.
A round-table between:
Saturday, October 2 – March with Refuse Fascism at the Women’s Marches: Everyone! Everywhere! Stop the Fascist Assault on Abortion Rights! Find a contingent and/or resources to print for your area here. Find a protest on October 2 at https://map.womensmarch.com/?source=website&eventType=oct-2-2021-march
Ankush Khardori talks about the Merrick Garland DOJ and the (dim) prospects of real accountability for the Trump regime. Articles discussed include Merrick Garland's Moderation to Excess and Who Will Answer For this Cruelty? Read more of his writings at khardori.com.
Then, Tony Norman talks about his recent article Fugitive Slave Act Redux: On the run in Texas ... and America. Read more of his writings at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and follow him on Twitter at @Tony_NormanPG.
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Abortion Rights Emergency Town Hall
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Anthropologist Dr. Nazia Kazi recently wrote What We Forget, a piece commemorating the global aftermath of 9/11 illustrated by Anuj Shrestha; Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Kazi about the US empire and related root causes of the fascist stew that is politics today. Follow Dr. Kazi on Twitter at @NaziaKaziTweets and read her book Islamophobia, Race, and Global Politics.
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A few days after the Supreme Court refused to block the extreme Texas abortion ban, Sam Goldman (@SamBGoldman), Coco Das (@Coco_Das) and Sunsara Taylor (@SunsaraTaylor) discuss the roots and ramifications of this dangerous new law. All abortions, without exception for rape or incest, are now illegal just two weeks after a first missed period; plus vigilantes are incentivized to hunt down not only those who seek abortions but anyone who assists, down to the taxi driver who may have given a woman a ride to the clinic.
Read Coco Das’s writings at RefuseFascism.org including her recent piece Genocidal and Deadly Serious: Dan Patrick, Texas Fascist Lunatic Scapegoats Black People for the Pandemic. Sunsara Taylor co-hosts The RNL Show on YouTube and We Only Want The World on WBAI and WPFW.
For more legal analysis of the law and the effect of the US Supreme Court in refusing to block this unconstitutional law that directly violates Roe V. Wade, listen to the recent episode of Amicus with Dahlia Lithwick: Abortion, Surveillance, and Vigilantism: An American Story
Watch the video of the Body Talk Dance Company's protest dance in front of the Austin Capitol on September 1.
*For Texans in need of abortion services and more resources, including information on who can help with funding:
Jane's Due Process 24/7 Hotline & Textline: 866-999-5263
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Sam Goldman interviews Khaled Beydoun, law professor and author of American Islamophobia: Understanding the Roots and Rise of Fear. Order the book at khaledbeydoun.com and follow him on Twitter at @KhaledBeydoun. Then, Sam speaks to Coco Das about her latest article on RefuseFascism.org: Genocidal and Deadly Serious: Dan Patrick, Texas Fascist Lunatic Scapegoats Black People for the Pandemic.
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Sam Goldman interviews Matthew Hoh, former Marine and State Department official who served in and then was the first to resign over the unjust war in Afghanistan all the way back in 2009. Then, we're sharing an interview with educator Tamara Anderson about the upcoming Teach Truth Days of Action, a project of the Zinn Education Project happening August 27 - 29.
Follow Matthew Hoh at matthewhoh.com and on Twitter at @MatthewPHoh. Follow Tamara on Twitter at @andersontamara. Get involved with the Teach Truth Days of Action at https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/aug-27-29-teach-truth-days-action/. For the numbers cited by Sam about the war in Afghanistan see the April 2021 Costs of War report from Brown University.
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Sam Goldman interviews writer Paul Mason about his new book: How To Stop Fascism: History, Ideology, Resistance. From the publisher:
The far right is on the rise across the world. From Modi's India to Bolsonaro's Brazil and Erdogan's Turkey, fascism is not a horror that we have left in the past; it is a recurring nightmare that is happening again - and we need to find a better way to fight it.
In How to Stop Fascism, Paul Mason offers a radical, hopeful blueprint for resisting and defeating the new far right. The book is both a chilling portrait of contemporary fascism, and a compelling history of the fascist phenomenon: its psychological roots, political theories and genocidal logic. Fascism, Mason powerfully argues, is a symptom of capitalist failure, one that has haunted us throughout the twentieth century and into the twenty-first.
History shows us the conditions that breed fascism, and how it can be successfully overcome. But it is up to us in the present to challenge it, and time is running out. From the ashes of Covid-19, we have an opportunity to create a fairer, more equal society. To do so, we must ask ourselves: what kind of world do we want to live in? And what are we going to do about it?
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*This episode was recorded before the breaking news that the Taliban have retaken Kabul. Our hearts go out to the people of Afghanistan who have suffered so much under US occupation and whose suffering will continue. Subscribe for updates as we'll cover this issue on upcoming shows soon.
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Coco Das (@Coco_Das) guest hosts; Sam Goldman interviews Wajahat Ali, author of the new book Go Back to Where You Came From. Pre-order the book at wajali.com. Read his columns for the Daily Beast here and follow him on Twitter at @WajahatAli.
Mentioned by Coco Das at the start of the episode: The Big Money Behind the Big Lie and Andy Zee on The RNL Show. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Or leave a voicemail at 917-426-7582 or on https://anchor.fm/refuse-fascism/message.
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Trigger warning: this episode contains Capitol Police Officer Harry Dunn’s testimony regarding what he encountered as a Black officer defending the Capitol during the January 6 failed fascist coup attempt. His testimony contains racial slurs which he was subjected to that are disturbing/triggering.
Sam Goldman interviews Tim Wise, anti-racism educator and author of Dispatches from the Race War. Follow him on Twitter @timjacobwise and read more of his writings at timjwise.medium.com. The article by Jeff Sharlet that Sam quotes from can be read in full here: “They Sought to Convert Us”: Officers’ January 6 Testimony Reveals the Riot’s Dark Righteousness.
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Sam interviews Teri Kanefield, lawyer and author of multiple books and articles which you can read about at terikanefield.com. Follow Teri on Twitter at @Teri_Kanefield. Then, Sunsara Taylor interviews Derenda Hancock, abortion rights activist and defender of the one abortion clinic in the entire state of Mississippi (this interview originally aired on The RNL Show).
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Sam Goldman talks with Dr. Mia Bloom, member of the Evidence-Based Cybersecurity Research Group, professor of communication and Middle East studies at Georgia State University and a fellow with New America’s International Security program. Her new book, co-authored with Sophia Moskalenko is Pastels and Pedophiles: Inside the Mind of Qanon. Follow her on Twitter at @MiaMBloom.
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David Atkins writes, "What will the institutions of liberal democracy do when Republican officials simply refuse to concede Democratic victories? The question isn’t as far-fetched as it may seem, and the reckoning may be coming far sooner than most expect."
Sam Goldman interviews David about his recent article for Washington Monthly, talks about CPAC and Trump's inflammatory speech there, and introduces the updated mission statement for Refuse Fascism (as of July 2021).
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Sam Goldman interviews Jessica Mason Pieklo, Senior Vice President and Executive Editor at Rewire News and co-host of the podcast Boom! Lawyered. Follow her on Twitter at @Hegemommy. Then, The RNL Show’s Sunsara Taylor interviews long-time abortion provider Dr. Warren Hern. Follow Sunsara at @SunsaraTaylor and watch The RNL Show on YouTube.
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Sam Goldman interviews Dahlia Lithwick, columnist for Slate.com and host of the podcast Amicus about the Supreme Court: https://slate.com/podcasts/amicus
Read her recent piece The Price of No Consequences for Trump: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/06/no-consequences-for-trump-garland-biden.html
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Sam Goldman interviews Chanelle Wilson, assistant professor of education and the director of the Africana Studies program at Bryn Mawr College. Dr. Wilson has been vocally arguing for anti-racist approaches in education and uses critical race theory as a tool for identifying oppressive structures in the educational system and beyond. Read her profile in Newsweek https://www.newsweek.com/chanelle-wilson-1587565 and follow her on Twitter at https://twitter.com/DrCEWilson.
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Sam Goldman interviews Anthea Butler, Associate Professor of Religious Studies and Africana Studies at the University of Pennsylvania, columnist for MSNBC and author of a new book, White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America. Order her book here and follow Dr. Butler via her website antheabutler.com or on Twitter at @AntheaButler.
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Sam Goldman talks to Caroline Duble, the Political Director of Avow Texas (https://avowtexas.org/) about the abortion ban set to go into effect September 1st and the larger fight for abortion rights. Avow Texas' slogan is "Unapologetic Abortion Advocacy" (cheers for that!).
Then, we play the speech given by the valedictorian at Lake Highlands HS in Dallas. 18 yr. old Paxton Smith eloquently and courageously gave voice to all the millions of people affected by this fascist law. We should all take heart from her message that we cannot stay silent.
*For more about the call for a military coup from Michael Flynn (which should have gotten a lot more attention), see https://time.com/6053336/michael-flynn-coup/.
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Sam Goldman interviews long-time activist and voice of conscience Dr. Walden Bello about Trumpism and the global spread of fascism. Dr. Bello is currently International Adjunct Professor of sociology at the State University of New York at Binghamton and received the Right Livelihood Award (also known as the Alternative Nobel Prize) in Stockholm in 2003 for his work showing the negative impact of corporate-driven globalization. Read his article Fascism’s Global Spread is Real — As Real as the Spread of COVID-19.
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Sam Goldman interviews Brynn Tannehill (@BrynnTannehill) about her new book American Fascism: How the GOP is Subverting Democracy. Then, Coco Das and Sam talk to a couple local organizers with Refuse Fascism chapters in Philadelphia and Texas, summing up their activism under Trump and going forward.
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Coco Das talks with historian Priya Satia about her recent article for the LA Review of Books: Fascism and Analogies — British and American, Past and Present. Priya Satia is the Raymond A. Spruance Professor of International History at Stanford University, focusing on the history of Britain and its empire. She is the award-winning author of Spies in Arabia (2008) and Empire of Guns (2018). Her new book, Time's Monster: How History Makes History, is out now. Follow her on Twitter @PriyaSatia.
Then, Carl Dix talks about the Jim Crow era and the roots of the current assault on voting rights that is is sweeping the country. His presentation starts with a clip from a speech by Bob Avakian. Carl’s presentation is an excerpt of a longer event held at Revolution Books NYC - you can view the full event here. Follow Carl on Twitter at @Carl_Dix.
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Society wide repudiation of American fascism requires people from every corner of society speak up and take a stand. Coco Das (Contributing Editor of RefuseFascism.org) interviews Steve Hofstetter on getting loud in the face of fascist threats & noise. Hofstetter is an outspoken progressive comedian who unfortunately became the cover story of neo-Nazi publications and received hundreds of death threats after notoriously going off on an anti-Semitic heckler at one of his shows. Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_ERPea0Y78
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Sam Goldman interviews Brynn Tannehill (@BrynnTannehill) about the spate of anti-trans laws across the country and the larger fascist agenda it's a part of. Order her book American Fascism: How the GOP is Subverting Democracy here.
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Ruth Ben-Ghiat, professor of history at New York University and the author of Strongmen: From Mussolini to the Present talks with Sam Goldman about the continuing effects of Trump's lies and how the entire GOP has changed in the aftermath of the Trump years and Jan 6th coup attempt. Sign up for her new newsletter "Lucid," follow her on Twitter at @RuthBenGhiat, and check out her website ruthbenghiat.com.
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Sam Goldman interviews Matthew Rozsa (@MatthewRozsa) about his recent article for Salon.com: Trump's Big Lie and Hitler's: Is this how America's slide into totalitarianism begins? which reads in part:
"The Germans who 'believed' in Hitler's Big Lie did so not because he had any proof that Germany had been stabbed in the back, but because they hated Jews, hated leftists and wanted to restore the German Empire to its pre-World War I glory. The Republicans who 'believe' in Trump's Big Lie do so not because there is any logical argument that Biden stole the election, but because they don't want to admit that a majority of Americans do not support their policies. In order to stay in power, they need to disenfranchise racial minorities, low-income voters and anyone else who might be inclined not to support Republican politicians."
Protests continue this week against the unrelenting stream of police murders across the country. Find one near you and join in! Send your comments to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman. Connect with the movement at RefuseFascism.org and support:
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Sunsara Taylor interviews Dr. Kristin Kobes Du Mez (@kkdumez), author of Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation, about the rise of militant and militaristic patriarchy among Christian fascists as a major social force in this country (originally broadcast on The RNL Show).
Then, Sam Goldman (@SamBGoldman) and Coco Das @coco_das talk about how and why the call for continuous non-violent mass protests to drive out the Trump/Pence regime didn't take root - and why that means we still face a serious threat of fascism in the United States.
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Sam Goldman talks to Talbert Swan (Bishop with the Church Of God In Christ and longtime fighter for justice, author of No More Cursing: Destroying The Roots Of Religious Racism) about the spate of voter suppression bills being enacted across the country. Follow Bishop Swan at @talbertswan.
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Maria Sanchez, a mental health professional and supporter of RefuseFascism.org, talks to Sam Goldman about the trauma of the Trump presidency and the enduring fascist movement on society, plus clips from the conversation between Sam and forensic psychiatrist Dr. Bandy Lee (editor of "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump”) from a few weeks ago. Since that interview was aired, Dr. Lee was targeted by former Trump lawyer Alan Dershowitz and was fired from her position at Yale. Read her latest article: How a Psychiatric Association Sickened Society’s Mental Health. Follow@BandyXLee1.
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Sam Goldman interviews Andy Zee, host of The RNL Show on YouTube and a co-founder of RefuseFascism.org, to talk about the statement released this January by revolutionary leader Bob Avakian: A New Year, The Urgent Need For A Radically New World—For The Emancipation Of All Humanity.
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It's the 50th episode!
We started the podcast this past summer; the week millions began to pour into the streets rebelling against white supremacy and demanding justice for George Floyd. When we began a fascist regime was tightening its grip on society; we called the podcast "Inside With #OutNow" as the movement to get these fascists out became all the more urgent.
Since then, we've covered Trump's refusal to wear a mask as a signal to fascism and other forms of fascist propaganda, the white supremacy, xenophobia and misogyny that is the core of this fascism, Trump’s death cult, the Christian Fascist movement and its embrace of Trump, American exceptionalism and American mythology; faith, resistance and complicity under fascism. We've shared voices from the frontlines: from Portland and LA to North Carolina and the suburbs of Chicago, and overall the need to stop fascism and organizing methods to mobilize all who can be united against it. Throughout all of this we have mobilized people to act in the name of humanity.
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This week, Sam Goldman interviews Susan Neiman, director of the Einstein Forum in Germany and author of Learning from the Germans: Confronting Race and the Memory of Evil and Daryle Lamont Jenkins, Executive Director of One People's Project. Follow Daryle on Twitter @DLamontJenkins.
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Sam Goldman interviews Federico Finchelstein, Professor of History at the New School for Social Research and Eugene Lang College and Director of the Janey Program in Latin American Studies at NSSR. Dr. Finchelstein is the author of seven books on fascism, populism, Dirty Wars, the Holocaust and Jewish history in Latin America and Europe. His latest book is A Brief History of Fascist Liesand you can follow him on Twitter @FinchelsteinF.
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Sam Goldman interviews Umair Haque, Founder & Editor of Eudaimonia and Co, Bad Words, a book of nights, Leadership in the Age of Rage, and eudaimonia. You can also find him on Medium where he is a top writer in Life, Politics, Culture, Leadership. Follow him on Twitter @UmairH.
This episode was released on the last night of the CPAC conference, shortly after Trump spoke, laying out their strategy to further consolidate their fascist base in the Republican Party and return to power. We can either:
A. Treat the Nazi GOP as a legitimate political party/movement to be compromised, debated, worked with
OR
B. Recognize they are fascist. Have difficult, fruitful dialogue amongst decent people about how to stop fascism
We can’t do both.
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Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Bandy Lee, M.D., M.Div., a forensic psychiatrist, violence expert, and faculty member of Yale School of Medicine for 17 years who also taught at Yale Law School for 15 years. She was a research fellow at the National Institute of Mental Health, a consultant with the World Health Organization since 2002, and author of the textbook, Violence (2019). She edited The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 37 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President (2017 and 2019) and authored Profile of a Nation: Trump’s Mind, America’s Soul (2020). She is also president of the World Mental Health Coalition (worldmhc.org), which is a professional organization dedicated to the betterment of societal mental health and is forming a Truth and Reconciliation Commission to examine what happened over the Trump years and how the nation can heal from it. You can follow her work at bandylee.com and @BandyXLee1.
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Sam Goldman talks with journalist and author Sarah Posner (@SarahPosner) about Trump's impeachment trial. Read Sarah's recent piece, How the Christian right helped foment insurrection.
Upon acquittal, Trump said, “Our historic, patriotic and beautiful movement to Make America Great Again has only just begun. In the months ahead I have much to share with you, and I look forward to continuing our incredible journey together to achieve American greatness for all of our people. There has never been anything like it!”
And as much as he lies with every breath, these statements about only just beginning will prove true if we don’t stop them.
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This urgent discussion was recorded February 8, on the eve of Trump’s second impeachment trial. What actually happened on January 6 when a fascist mob stormed the Capitol? What does that, and everything that lead up to it, tell us about the danger of fascism in America? How does the impeachment trial fit into this picture? And how can people act act in a meaningful way in the interests of humanity at this unprecedented moment?
The discussion features:
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Sian Norris (@Sianushka), author of the upcoming book Birth Violence, talks with Sam Goldman about the tactics and links of anti-abortion movement internationally - including fascist coup participants in the assault on the US Capitol January 6.
Then, Sam talks with Coco Das (@Coco_Das) about her new article on RefuseFascism.org: The “Left” Coalition That Kept You Off the Streets and Won’t Stop Fascism.
RSVP for the online forum Monday February 8: The Senate Impeachment Trial & the Need to Refuse Fascism with actor and activists Frances Fisher, attorney Eric Seitz, writer Jared Yates Sexton, and historian and journalist Paul Street.
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As Trump's impeachment trial looms but some progressives argue that holding Trump accountable for his fascist coup attempt would distract Congress from accomplishing other priorities, Sam Goldman talks with writer and historian Paul Street about his upcoming piece "The Anatomy of Fascism-Denial: 31 Flavors of Anti-Antifascism." Read "Thirty-One Flavors of Fascism" now.
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Also read the full New Year's statement by Bob Avakian that Sam mentions at the beginning here. Send your comments and ideas for this show going forward to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman.
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Sam Goldman talks with renowned educator and author of multiple books Henry Giroux about his recent piece on Truthout: Downplaying Trumpism is Dangerous.
Trump is out of power now but clearly there is still a need for people acting together to refuse fascism and demand a more just world. How close did we come to full-blown fascism? What are we faced with now and what is needed? We will continue to explore these questions on this podcast and encourage people to act with us via refusefascism.org. Send your comments and ideas for this show going forward to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org or @SamBGoldman.
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On Trump's last full day in office, Sam talks with Dr. Jo-Marie Burt, (scholar of political violence, human rights and transitional justice in Latin America; professor at The Schar School of Policy and Government at George Mason University and Senior Fellow at The Washington Office on Latin America). What can we learn about recovery from the Trump years and attempted self-coup from other countries?
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We're sharing a conversation that originally aired on Sunsara Taylor's show, We Only Want the World (WBAI and WPFW; listen to past episodes on wpfwfm.org), featuring Dr. Cornel West, Rev. William H. Lamar IV and Andy Zee. This discussion was recorded and aired the day before fascist assault on the Capitol January 6 but is completely relevant this week as the country faces continued violent threats and other fallout from the coup.
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We're sharing a very timely conversation between actor/comedienne Rosie O'Donnell, Jason Stanley (author of How Fascism Works), Andy Zee (co-initiator of Refuse Fascism, host of The RNL Show) and Sunsara Taylor (co-initiator of Refuse Fascism, host of We Only Want the World).
In the aftermath of the Trump-led attempted coup, and in the days leading up to the inauguration of Joe Biden, is it right to call Trump, his regime and his MAGA base fascist? Is it too "inflammatory?" Why are the fascists fighting in the streets and our side so passive?
Trump needs to be DEFEATED legally & politically. His fascist coup attempt, the whole regime and their followers, & their fascist program with its white supremacy, misogyny & xenophobia resoundingly repudiated.
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Sam Goldman speaks to George Levy Mueller, author of Lucie's Hope, a memoir of his life as a child in Nazi Germany. He and his younger sister Ursula survived life in three concentration camps.
Plus, a clip from William H. Lamar IV (pastor of Metropolitan African Methodist Episcopal Church in Washington, D.C) speaking at Black Lives Matter plaza yesterday. There were demonstrations in DC, NYC and around the country Saturday demanding Trump's immediate removal. Find coverage and ways you can act now on refusefascism.org.
We demand Trump’s immediate removal to stop the tremendous harm he can do in the next 11 days. We demand this now as part of building the strength of our side for the fight to decisively defeat this fascism that has been allowed to fester and spew forth. Note well: A failed coup, can lead to a successful coup or a “legitimate” return to power fueled by the same fascist program but with a vengeance.
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On Wednesday, January 6th, we saw President Trump call forth and unleash fascist mobs to storm the U.S. Capitol.
This was an attempt at a coup. It did not succeed this time, but the danger from even a failed coup is to be taken seriously, setting the stage for them to come back sooner or later to re-seize power – with or without Trump.
RefuseFascism.org hosted a virtual press conference on YouTube, Thursday January 7, presenting a diverse group of people speaking out on the attempted coup, its short and longer term consequences, and what THE PEOPLE must do now. The press conference also announced protests demanding No to a Fascist Coup! TRUMP/PENCE OUT NOW! In the Name of Humanity, We Refuse to Accept a Fascist America (details here).
Hear from: Coco Das, writer, Refuse Fascism Editorial Board; Andy Zee, co-initiator of RefuseFascism.org and host of The RNL – Revolution Nothing Less – Show; Lilly Wachowski, filmmaker, author of Refuse Fascism, at the Ballot Box and in the Street ; Rosanna Arquette, actress and activist ; Cornel West, author, activist, scholar ; Rev. William H. Lamar IV, pastor of Metropolitan African Methodist Episcopal Church in Washington, DC; Arturo O’Farrill, musician ; Ruchira Gupta, Indian journalist and activist; Steve Hofstetter, stand-up comedian; Jodie Sweetin, actress and activist.
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Sam Goldman interviews Eric Boehler (Press Run Media) about his recent article Trump plots martial law from White House — the press shrugs.
Then, this week Trump and fellow fascists are attempting to stop the certification of the presidential election results this Wednesday, with 140 Republican congressmen and 12 senators challenging the results and plans for a "wild protest" at the White House that morning.
Trump’s unprecedented attempt to overturn the election is fascist and must be opposed. Find materials and information on how to respond at RefuseFascism.org.
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Sam Goldman chats with a progressive organizer in the north shore suburbs of Chicago who has been organizing Protect the Vote vigils in her area for several months. She wrote this solidarity statement that was read at the Trump: You Lost. Get the Hell Out! rally in front of the White House on December 12.
This week, connect with the movement and support Refuse Fascism on Wednesday, for a virtual rebroadcast of the Musicians Against Fascism concert which originally took place January 19, 2017 (the day before Trump's inauguration). RSVP here and you'll be sent a link to watch on Wednesday December 30 at 8pm EST.
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A panel discussion presented by Refuse Fascism and The RNL – Revolution, Nothing Less! – Show, originally streamed live Wednesday, December 16.
The Situation:
Nearly 300,000 people in this country have died from COVID under a science-hating, genocidally racist, lunatic fascist regime, with the virus now out of control and thousands more projected to die before Trump leaves office. The Trump/Pence regime, the Republi-fascists, and their rabid base spread COVID as a matter of “liberty” – the liberty to infect and kill others. Trump recovers from COVID with the best healthcare in the world and then tells his overwhelmingly white followers at a campaign rally in Minnesota that they have “good genes.” The regime’s COVID response concentrates many of the features of this fascist program – white supremacy, xenophobia, Christian fascism, and unhinged conspiracy theories.
Some Questions:
How did we get to this point?
Why have we tolerated a regime that has facilitated the deaths of 300,000 people, disproportionately Black and brown people?
Is this deliberate mass murder or “collateral damage” in service of a fascist or fundamentalist worldview?
How do we wage a society-wide struggle for truth, science, and evidence-based epistemology?
Panelists:
Coco Das, Editorial Board of RefuseFascism.org
Dr. Phil Rice, Emergency Medicine Physician, Salem, Massachusetts
Paul Street, historian and writer, author of Hollow Resistance: Obama, Trump, and the Politics of Appeasement, member of the editorial board of RefuseFascism.org
Andy Zee, host of The RNL – Revolution Nothing Less – Show; co-initiator of RefuseFascism.org; spokesperson for Revolution Books.
RefuseFascism.org is a movement of people coming from diverse perspectives, united in our recognition that the Trump/Pence Regime poses a catastrophic danger to humanity and the planet, and that it is our responsibility to drive them from power through non-violent protests that grow every day until our demand is met.
The RNL -- Revolution, Nothing Less -- Show is a multidimensional YouTube show about making revolution and emancipating humanity. It's about the world and for a radically different world, bringing alive the need for revolution and the new communism developed by the revolutionary leader Bob Avakian.
Previously in this series:
November 24: What Just Happened?
December 8: Why did 74 million people vote for Trump?
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Sam Goldman recaps the last few days leading into the Electoral College vote expected to confirm Joe Biden as the winner of the 2020 election. Sam was with Refuse Fascism speaking out at Black Lives Matter Plaza in Washington on Saturday, when Proud Boys and other fascist Trump supporters left a trail of destruction elsewhere in the city, including burning a BLM flag ripped from a historic Black church. Trump's former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn gave a speech at one of their rallies, stating, "I've been asked—on a scale of one to ten, who will be the next president of the United States, and I say Donald Trump. Ten."
Tune in to the third in a series of three forums this Wednesday:
COVID: A Case Study With Life And Death Stakes: Science, Epistemology, Conspiracy & Fascism
Wednesday, December 16, 2020 • 8:00 PM EST
Featuring:
Coco Das, Editorial Board of RefuseFascism.org
Dr. Phil Rice, Emergency Medicine Physician, Salem, Massachusetts
Paul Street, historian and writer, author of Hollow Resistance: Obama, Trump, and the Politics of Appeasement, member of the editorial board of RefuseFascism.org
Andy Zee, host of The RNL – Revolution Nothing Less – Show; co-initiator of RefuseFascism.org; spokesperson for Revolution Books.
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What is the danger and what do we do about it?
A panel discussion with Michael Coard (@michaelcoard), attorney and columnist for Philly Tribune, host of WURD’s Radio Courtroom, Chrissy Stroop (@C_Stroop), writer, scholar, ex-evangelical, co-editor of Empty the Pews: Stories of Leaving the Church, Andy Zee (host of The RNL – Revolution Nothing Less – Show; co-initiator of RefuseFascism.org; spokesperson for Revolution Books), and Coco Das (@Coco_Das, editor of RefuseFascism.org).
The Situation
More people voted in this election than in any other election in U.S. history, but 74 million of them voted for a fascist incumbent whose regime has advanced a vicious program of white supremacy, misogyny and theocratic patriarchy, and “America First” xenophobia. 74 million people endorsed locking children in cages, throwing immigrants in concentration camps, and backing the most vicious white supremacy, including vigilante racist and anti-Semitic murderers. A political form of Christian fundamentalism makes up the most organized solid base of this fascist movement. The 74 million include millions deeply mired in a world of lies, crazy lunatic conspiracy theories and a vicious anti-science mindset that has already killed a quarter of a million people from COVID, with the pandemic now out of control.
Some Questions
What accounts for this? What are its roots and how deep are they? Is it an historical aberration? Will this movement fade away with Trump out of office, or be further filled with revanchist determination? What is the danger and what do we do about it?
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A panel discussion with Indi Samarajiva (@indica, author of viral piece I Lived Through A Stupid Coup. America Is Having One Now), Jeff Sharlet (@jeffsharlet, author of The Family, now a Netflix documentary and This Brilliant Darkness), Andy Zee (The RNL Show, co-initiator of RefuseFascism.org), and Coco Das (@Coco_Das, editor of RefuseFascism.org) about the Trump coup and what's next.
Then, Sam Goldman interviews RefuseFascism.org organizer Debra Sweet (@Debra__Sweet) about the time she confronted Richard Nixon face-to-face 50 years ago, as a 19 year old being given an award at the White House.
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"The American people must not assume it is over until Trump leaves the White House," writes Andrew Mitrovica on AlJazeera.com in Americans need to remain vigilant. Sam Goldman interviews Andrew about the media's continued refusal to properly identify the nature of Trump and his regime and what to watch for in the coming days and weeks as Trump threatens war with Iran and continues to undermine the legitimacy of the election among his fascist base.
This Tuesday, tune in (on Facebook, Twitter or YouTube) to a conversation between Andy Zee, Coco Das, Indi Samarajiva and Jeff Sharlet: What Just Happened: Trump; America & the Danger of Fascism (share on Twitter).
The movement to stop a fascist America and oust the Trump/Pence regime is still needed and continues at RefuseFascism.org. Support:
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Sam Goldman interviews Sunsara Taylor, a co-initiator of RefuseFascism.org, about events in DC yesterday as thousands of violent white supremacist Trump supporters marched in a so-called "Million MAGA March" and what happened when Refuse Fascism counter-protested them.
Then, Sunsara talks with Coco Das and Andy Zee about the Pledge to the People of the World: In the Name of Humanity, We REFUSE to Accept a Fascist America. The Trump/Pence Regime Must Go!
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World-changing events are unfolding before our eyes. All the news networks have announced that Biden is the winner of the electoral college and popular vote. The Trump/Pence regime will not give up trying to complete their coup and theft of this election, but it is very positive that the media has declared Biden the winner.
Hear from organizers on the ground at protests around the country and a new statement from RefuseFascism.org about this new situation.
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Sam Goldman talks with political scientist Anthony DiMaggio about Trump's fascism and what people of conscience need to do about it. Read his article Can We Call It Fascism? Trump’s Voter Suppression Project, 2020 on Counterpunch.org.
Connect with the movement to oust Trump at RefuseFascism.org, and read the plans for this week here. Tune in to the @RefuseFascism livestream event Sunday night at 7pm EST on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube to learn about Refuse Fascism's plan for the election and how you can organize people into the streets whatever happens.
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Writer and filmmaker Andrea Chalupa (@andreachalupa), co-host of Gaslit Nation podcast, talks with Sam Goldman (@SamanthaGoldm19) about the Trump crime family, the crucial need for mass mobilization to stop the consolidation of fascism in the United States, and the critical next few days in the countdown to Nov. 3 and the following week.
Connect with the movement to oust Trump at RefuseFascism.org, and read the plans for this week here. Tune in to the @RefuseFascism livestream event Sunday night at 7pm EST on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube to learn about Refuse Fascism's plan for the election and how you can organize people into the streets whatever happens.
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Sam Goldman (@samanthagoldm19) talks with Rose Marie Berger about the strategy and power of non-violent resistance as we count down the days to the 2020 election and resist Trump's coup. Find further resources for non-violence trainings linked from Sojourners magazine. Then, Sam outlines some of the important plans posted on RefuseFascism.org for this weekend and the critical days next week during and after the election.
Rose Marie Berger, senior editor at Sojourners magazine, is a Catholic peace activist and poet. Her article “Seven concrete steps to safeguard the integrity of the vote” in the November issue of Sojourners magazine, along with “In the Event of Tainted Election, the Faith Community Must Rise Up” by Barbara Williams-Skinner and Adam Russell Taylor, focuses on post-election defense of the vote and strategic nonviolence in the event of a power grab by either presidential candidate. As part of the Catholic Nonviolence Initiative, a project of Pax Christi International to return nonviolence to the heart of the Catholic Church, Rose co-edited Advancing Nonviolence and Just Peace in the Church and World. Her most recent book of poetry is Bending the Arch: Poems. Her earlier book, Who Killed Donte Manning: The Story of an American Neighborhood is set in the Columbia Heights neighborhood of Washington, D.C., where she lives. Follow Rose on Twitter at @RMBerger and @Sojourners.
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Amy Coney Barrett has been confirmed to the Supreme Court - appointed explicitly and illegitimately to cast a deciding vote in the expected contest over the election results. Coco Das (@Coco_Das) talks to writer, activist and professor Ashley Dawson (@ashleydawsonnyc) about his recent article for The Guardian, where he writes: "According to the civil rights activist George Lakey, planning to defeat a coup can actually help reduce the chances of attempts to overthrow democracy."
Protests continue around the country this week. Find one near you at RefuseFascism.org. Support the movement to drive out the Trump/Pence regime:
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Trump is already stealing the election. We need to vote, but Trump will not be stopped just by voting. This is the time to be in the streets demanding Trump/Pence Out Now! Public Assemblies were held around the country yesterday to mobilize, strategize and organize to demand Trump/Pence now as we approach the election.
JOIN US Monday, October 26: 5:00pm at the Supreme Court to say:
Theocracy + Stealing Election = Fascism
No Confirmation of Amy Coney Barrett: TRUMP/PENCE OUT NOW
Andy Zee speaks at the public assembly in LA yesterday, then Samantha Goldman (@SamanthaGoldm19) talks with journalist and historian Paul Street, whose new book is The Hollow Resistance: Obama, Trump, and Politics of Appeasement.
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On the heels of Women's Marches across the country that opposed the confirmation of nominee to the Supreme Court Amy Coney Barrett, we're sharing a segment from Sunsara Taylor (The RNL Show on YouTube, @SunsaraTaylor on Twitter) covering the hearings so far. Amy Coney Barrett is an extreme Christian fundamentalist who is expected to rubber stamp a host of fascist measures, but also a key part of the plot to keep Trump in power by any means necessary.
Then, Sunsara interviews Mark Joseph Stern, writer on courts and the law for Slate.com. Read his recent piece What the Right-Wing Dark-Money Machine Did for Amy Coney Barrett and follow him on Twitter @mjs_DC.
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Since October 3, daily protests have been ongoing around the country demanding Trump/Pence Out Now. Plus, this week the fascist nominee to the Supreme Court hearings are happening this week (join in protests - details at refusefascism.org).
Samantha Goldman (@SamanthaGoldm19) talks with organizer Ejeris Dixon (@ejeris), Director of Vision Change Win, about the threat that the fascist Trump/Pence regime poses to all human beings and the need for solidarity and coalition building to confront and defeat fascism before it is completely consolidated.
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Daily protests continue around the country demanding Trump/Pence Out Now (details at refusefascism.org). Andy Zee, co-initiator of Refuse Fascism talks with philosopher and author of "How Fascism Works" Jason Stanley (@jasonintrator) about where we're at in the development of fascism in the United States, the urgent need for protest and the rolling coup/election month (not day). This discussion was originally streamed by Revolution Books and the Brooklyn Book Festival.
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We face a rolling coup barreling to a showdown on November 3rd. The Trump/Pence regime has said and shown that they will not abide by an election they lose. Now we must act. Beginning Saturday, October 3rd, gather and bring your family, friends, and community into the public squares of cities and towns across the country in non-violent protest unified by the demand: Trump/Pence OUTNOW! And, come back in waves, day after day.
Read the full call to action and find a protest near you at RefuseFascism.org.
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Coco Das talks with Houston teacher and activist Jamilah, and a friend of Anthony Huber (Black Lives Matter protester murdered by a 17 yr old white supremacist in Kenosha, WI) talks to a Chicago activist.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg's passing intensifies the urgent need to get in the streets to drive out the Trump/Pence regime as we speed toward an election that is being stolen. RefuseFascism.org is calling for protests on the day marking the 200,000 death toll from COVID-19 in the U.S. on September 21: March Against Death, Lies, and Fascism and For Humanity, and for the start of daily protests demanding Trump/Pence Out Now starting October 3. Find out more and get involved at RefuseFascism.org.
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Sam Goldman (@SamanthaGoldm19) talks to Joshua Shanes, Associate Professor of Jewish Studies, and Director of the Center of Israel Studies, at the College of Charleston. He has published widely on modern Jewish politics, culture and religion, antisemitism and nationalism, as well as American and Israeli politics in both academic and popular outlets including Slate, Washington Post, Haaretz and Tikkun. He'll have a new article out this week on the popularity of Trump among Orthodox Jews in the online Tablet Magazine. Read his recent piece on Slate.com: This Was the Week American Fascism Reached a Tipping Point.
RefuseFascism.org is calling for protests on the day marking the expected 200,000 death toll from COVID-19 in the U.S. on September 21: March Against Death, Lies, and Fascism and For Humanity, and this Wednesday September 16 to Indict Trump for Inciting and Defending Murders by Fascist Mobs and Commemorate the Fallen - Drive Out The Trump/Pence Regime. Find out more and get involved at RefuseFascism.org.
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Refuse Fascism called for people to come into the streets on September 5 for a LIVING DECLARATION to the world that we are uniting, we are organizing, we are determined, we are preparing to struggle with all we’ve got, starting now and not stopping until the Trump/Pence regime is driven from power and its fascist program brought to a halt. 25 cities participated in this day of action.
With reports still coming in, follow refusefascism.org and @RefuseFascism on social media for more coverage and upcoming plans. Today we're sharing some of the voices of protesters from Sept 5 around the country along with an interview with an immigrant rights organizer who has been taking up the cause of ousting the Trump/Pence regime.
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“On September 5th we must make a LIVING DECLARATION to the world that we are uniting, we are organizing, we are determined, we are preparing to struggle with all we’ve got, starting now and not stopping until the Trump/Pence regime is driven from power and its fascist program brought to a halt.
Driving out this regime is in the interest of humanity. On September 5th under the unifying demand of Trump/Pence Out Now, we should see the diversity of people who don’t want to live in a fascist America.”
- From the vision statement for Sept 5 posted to RefuseFascism.org
Activist and writer Corey Hill (@NewsCHill) talks to Sam Goldman (@SamanthaGoldm19) about aligning analysis of the nature of the Trump presidency with the appropriate response (hint: it's not waiting for the fallout from the brewing catastrophe that is the November election). Then, we listen to clips from organizers and activists on the ground: Carl Dix (@carl_dix), Jamel Mims (@JamNoPeanut), Emma Kaplan (@emmancipator) and Luna Hernandez (@beddbuggg). Then Coco Das (@coco_das), one of the editors of RefuseFascism.org reads a poem from an activist in Houston.
Find a protest on Sept 5 near you or get connected with resources to organize in your area at refusefascism.org. Share the day of action using: bit.ly/Sept52020.
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Rev. Dr. Carter Heyward, writer, theologian and Vice President and Religious Committee Chair of the Transylvania County NAACP talks with Sam Goldman (@SamanthaGoldm19) about activism in rural North Carolina and the recent article she co-wrote, It's Time To Resist The Rising Tide Of Fascism.
Then, actor Jodie Sweetin (Full House, Fuller House) talks with Sunsara Taylor (The RNL Show) about why she's throwing in with the movement to demand Trump/Pence Out Now. Follow Jodie Sweetin on Twitter and Instagram @JodieSweetin and Sunsara Taylor @SunsaraTaylor.
Refuse Fascism is calling for a nationwide day of united protests demanding Trump/Pence Out Now. This is a demand that anyone and everyone can take up and bring into the movements you’re already a part of, whether Black Lives Matter, the environmental movement or any other just cause. We all need to confront the existential threat that faces us from the White House and unite to make this demand real.
Find a protest near you or get connected with resources to organize in your area at refusefascism.org.
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Refuse Fascism is calling for a nationwide day of united protests demanding Trump/Pence Out Now. This is a demand that anyone and everyone can take up and bring into the movements you’re already a part of, whether Black Lives Matter, the environmental movement or any other just cause. We all need to confront the existential threat that faces us from the White House and unite to make this demand real.
Hear from Andy Zee (The RNL Show), Jodie Sweetin, Carl Dix and Paul Street about why and how protests on Sept 5 raising the demand Trump/Pence Out Now are happening.
Find a protest near you or get connected with resources to organize in your area at refusefascism.org.
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Amid increasingly ominous signs that the Trump/Pence regime is undermining US elections, RefuseFascism.org issues a call for nationwide protest on September 5 demanding Trump/Pence Out Now. Members of the Editorial Board (@CocoDas @Carl_Dix @AfterDaylight) discuss why and how these protests are being organized.
Plus, attorney, writer, and self-identified "Angriest Black Man in America" Michael Coard speaks with Sam Goldman about uprooting structural racism and the urgency of the moment we're in now with a fascist regime in power. Follow him @MichaelCoard and read his latest article on PhillyTrib.com: Trump's fascism is sprinting, not creeping, toward Philly and other big cities.
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More and more political commentators are using the F word and talking what to do about it. Andy Zee, one of the initiators of Refuse Fascism, comments on the developing situation in the US in late July 2020. Sarah Posner, author of the new book "Unholy: Why White Evangelicals Worship at the Altar of Donald Trump" talks about the Christian Right's unwavering support for Trump.
"If NOW isn’t the time to be in the streets nonviolently demanding the immediate ouster of this regime, when IS?
"Trump is not 'losing an election.' He is setting the stage to declare any outcome other than his victory illegitimate, backed up by a GOP willing to rig elections and the violence of the “police, military, and bikers for Trump” to attack and suppress any opposition to their program. Waiting for November to remove Trump is like waiting for rain when a house is on fire."
- From the new Call to Act on September 5, posted on RefuseFascism.org
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In an ominous escalation of fascism, the Trump/Pence regime sent federal agents from multiple agencies to storm the streets of Portland, Oregon and crush ongoing protests. He is now deploying them to positions across the country, targeting those who dare to defy this regime and Democratic-run cities with large populations of Black people.
In the United States the federal government now commands rapid deployment forces that can be sent to suppress protest or take over as “law enforcement” for any reason the regime deems necessary. They are deployed and commanded by a fascist lunatic, heading into an election. If NOW isn’t the time to be in the streets nonviolently demanding the immediate ouster of this regime, when IS?
We talk to a couple of people who have been on the ground at protests in Portland almost every day over the past few months: Garrison Davis, independent journalist has been documenting the protests via Twitter @hungrybowtie and on his YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvgiWaFGDAN7INDMwR9VNOQ and activist and musician Samm Bones (find her at sammbones.com).
Find a protest near you or get connected with resources to organize in your area at refusefascism.org.
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Chantelle Herschberger and attorney Michael Plaut discuss the case of the Freeway 9 in Los Angeles - activists who blocked the highway in 2017 with a banner reading “Trump/Pence Out Now.” The case was finally dismissed this spring after two mistrials. Organizers with Refuse Fascism in LA mounted a political defense, admitting that they were in fact on the highway, but that it was necessary and protected under the first amendment due to the danger posed by this regime. Over the course of the prosecution it was discovered that the LAPD sent undercover informants to spy on protesters. This week, as Trump and acting DHS secretary Chad Wolf have sent federal forces to Portland to suppress protesters and threaten to deploy this secret police to many other cities, there are vital lessons to learn from this case and how to fight police state repression on all fronts.
LA Times: City attorney drops all charges against anti-Trump protest group that LAPD spied on
RefuseFascism.org: Victory in Case of Refuse Fascism Freeway Protesters in Los Angeles
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We’re all asking ourselves a lot of questions right now: What does it mean to be a “good person” at this time? How can we ensure that Black lives be preserved against the forces of violent racism? And - will we accept Trump and his whole agenda of white supremacy and hate as legitimate if he stays in power? If we won’t accept it then, why would we accept it now?
RefuseFascism.org co-editors Coco Das (@coco_das) and Sarah Roark (@afterdaylight) talk about the morality of living in Trump’s America, then activist Lina Thorne talks with Rev. Michael Woolf about faith, resistance and complicity under fascism.
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Jeff Sharlet, author of The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power (now a Netflix documentary) is interviewed by Samantha Goldman, activist with RefuseFascism.org (@SamanthaGoldm19).
If you were horrified by Pence’s instructions to pray instead of wearing a mask, or bewildered by the seemingly unshakeable support from evangelicals for a morally bankrupt character like Trump, you need to follow Jeff Sharlet's work. Recent articles on Vanity Fair include “You Know What to Do”: Decoding the Grotesque Symbolism of Trump’s Tulsa Rally and “He’s the Chosen One to Run America”: Inside the Cult of Trump, His Rallies Are Church and He Is the Gospel. You can find him on Twitter at @JeffSharlet.
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In an interview recorded May 18, writer and political analyst Jared Yates Sexton discusses Trump’s death cult with activist Sam Goldman. Jared Yates Sexton is an author and political analyst whose work has appeared in The New York Times, The New Republic, Politico, The Daily Beast, and elsewhere. Most recently he’s the author of American Rule: How A Nation Conquered The World But Failed Its People, forthcoming from Dutton/Penguin-Random House in Fall 2020. He can be found on Twitter @jysexton and hosts The Muckrake podcast. Read his latest piece, Deus Vult: Donald Trump and America's Holy War Threaten Everything We Know at TheMuckrake.com. Then, Sarah Roark, Co-Editor of RefuseFascism.org talks about whether we can or should wait until the November elections to remove Trump. Follow Sarah's political writings at RefuseFascism.org and follow her on Twitter @afterdaylight.
Refuse Fascism is calling for nationwide protests July 4 to demand This Nightmare Must End - Trump/Pence Out Now! Find out more and get involved at RefuseFascism.org.
Support the movement to drive out the Trump/Pence regime:
Venmo: @Refuse-Fascism
Cashapp: @RefuseFascism
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As Trump continues with plans to hold a rally in Tulsa the day after Juneteenth (Emancipation Day), Coco Das (@coco_das), an editor of RefuseFascism.org, and Carl Dix (@carl_dix) discuss how and why the people must act urgently right now to defend Black lives, demand an end to police murder and the growing police state and most of all: demand the ouster of the Trump/Pence regime. Protests are planned around the country on Juneteenth (June 19th) and on Saturday (June 20, the day of Trump's rally). Find out how to join a Trump/Pence Out Now contingent at refusefascism.org.
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Protests continue against white supremacy and police murder across the country, as more people identify Trump as a fascist and demand his resignation. Today's episode is airing on Trump's birthday, which is being "celebrated" with protests outside the White House and in multiple cities around the country.
Jason Stanley (@jasonintrator), philosopher and author of "How Fascism Works," is interviewed by Coco Das (@coco_das), an editor of RefuseFascism.org. This discussion was recorded on June 3.
“By placing Trump in transnational and transhistorical perspective, Stanley sees patterns that others miss. . . . Stanley’s comparative perspective is particularly effective in illustrating how fascists use fears of sexual violence. . . . By calling Trump a ‘fascist’—a word that strikes many Americans as alien and extreme—Stanley is trying to spark public alarm. He doesn’t want Americans to respond to Trump’s racist, authoritarian offensives by moving their moral goal posts. The greater danger, he suggests, isn’t hyperbole, it’s normalization. And twenty months into Trump’s presidency, the evidence is mounting that he’s right.”—The New York Times Book Review (Editors’ Choice)
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Coco Das, one of the editors of RefuseFascism.org interviews Ruth Ben-Ghiat, historian of fascism, who tweeted on May 21st: "When do you know authoritarian corruption has advanced to a new stage? When they don’t hide it. Trump’s been frank: if it might lose me the election, it cannot be allowed."
Since the interview, an extraordinarily broad and diverse movement against police murder has erupted across the country, with incredible repression and brutality inflicted against protesters in DC and other major cities - Refuse Fascism has been out there working to join the demand for justice with the need to drive out this fascist regime.
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.
RefuseFascism.org volunteer Sam Goldman talks with Lucian Truscott IV, writer for Salon.com in an interview that was recorded via Facebook Live a couple weeks ago, during what was a very different moment, as anti-science fascists were mobilizing to demand states reopen.
THIS WEEK Call to Action:
Trump has unleashed US military police against peaceful protest and threatened to call out the military nationwide.
An uprising has begun. Day after day, night after night, coast to coast, the streets fill with Black youth refusing to face another day in fear and people of all backgrounds who have had enough of white supremacy and a culture of soul-crushing cruelty. Comparisons to 1968 fill some with dread and some with hope, but one thing is clear. Millions have been shaken awake.
Trump has thrown down a heavy gauntlet to the people who have been heroically protesting in the face of heightened repression. Under the orders of Attorney General Bill Barr, federal forces hurled unrestrained brutality on peaceful protesters at Lafayette Park on June 1, driving them out so that Trump could rant like a police-state dictator and pose with a Bible for his Christian fascist followers. He invoked the Second Amendment to call out his armed vigilante militias, threatened to send the U.S. military into the streets to restore a fascist “law and order,” and bragged about dispatching “thousands and thousands of heavily armed soldiers” into D.C. Day after day, night after night, coast to coast, the streets fill with Black youth refusing to face another day in fear and people of all backgrounds who have had enough of white supremacy and a culture of soul-crushing cruelty. Comparisons to 1968 fill some with dread and some with hope, but one thing is clear. Millions have been shaken awake.
Trump has thrown down a heavy gauntlet to the people who have been heroically protesting in the face of heightened repression. Under the orders of Attorney General Bill Barr, federal forces hurled unrestrained brutality on peaceful protesters at Lafayette Park on June 1, driving them out so that Trump could rant like a police-state dictator and pose with a Bible for his Christian fascist followers. He invoked the Second Amendment to call out his armed vigilante militias, threatened to send the U.S. military into the streets to restore a fascist “law and order,” and bragged about dispatching “thousands and thousands of heavily armed soldiers” into D.C.
Yet the people have not cowered. In the face of all the tear gas and rubber bullets, the curfews and threats of more firepower, the rulers have proven that they are not all-powerful. For the first time under this regime, the people have seized the initiative and have not let go. In contrast to the hate and bigotry of the Trump/Pence regime, these protests are infused with a love for humanity, and those in power seem more out of touch and illegitimate by the day. The splits at the top, even among conservatives, have sharpened up. A determined struggle that doesn’t yield and won’t be provoked has created a serious political crisis. This is how regimes around the world have been forced out of power.
Continue reading this call to action and get involved.
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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.
Coco Das, member of Refusefascism.org Editorial Board interviews Amanda Marcotte, writer for Salon.com about her recent piece Oops, they did it again: Trump's refusal to wear a mask as a signal to fascism.
Read, sign, and spread the Refuse Fascism Statement of Conscience and Call to Act: bit.ly/RFOutNow
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