Refining Rhetoric with Robert Bortins

Gender Lies and the Anti-Christian Age with Rosaria Butterfield Nov 20, 2024

How does someone go from writing pro-LGBT legislation to defending biblical truth? Join us for a powerful conversation with Rosaria Butterfield, author of "Five Lies of Our Anti-Christian Age." A former tenured professor of English and Women's Studies at Syracuse University, Butterfield shares her journey from lesbian activist to Christian author and speaker. She offers profound insights on current cultural challenges facing Christians while emphasizing the importance of both truth and loving engagement with neighbors. Now a pastor's wife, homeschool mom, and classical educator, Butterfield discusses cultural deceptions around identity, gender, and faith expression, while sharing practical wisdom about community involvement.

https://rosariabutterfield.com/

Life is busy! Download audio versions of the articles from the Catalog and listen while you’re in the car, working out, or forward an episode to a friend. To listen to articles that will equip and encourage you no matter where you are in your homeschooling journey go to ClassicalConversations.com/Catalog-Articles

Trump, Bitcoin, and the Future of America Nov 13, 2024

Could the Department of Education be on the chopping block? Robert Bortins explores the seismic shifts that could reshape America's educational landscape. From radical changes in federal employment to surging cryptocurrency markets, Robert breaks down what these transformations could mean for educators, investors, and families.

https://www.redballoon.work/cc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4xuRZYLpgk&t=17s

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2024/11/11/will-trump-eliminate-the-department-of-education-what-we-know-as-elon-musk-applauds-good-idea/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/11/09/democrats-working-class-exodus-sets-off-reckoning-within-party/76117107007/

Mark your calendar for the 2025 National Commencement, May 16-17, 2025, in sunny Southern Pines, North Carolina! This is a time for Classical Conversations families from around the nation to celebrate the hard work with fellow families on the homeschooling journey.

Register at https://classicalconversationsfoundation.org/

Changing the World Through Radio Nov 06, 2024

Can traditional radio reach a TikTok generation with timeless truth? Join Robert as he sits down with Stu Epperson Jr., founder and president of Truth Network. With 45 radio signals nationwide, Epperson shares his journey in Christian broadcasting and discusses defending truth in today's media landscape. Listen in as they explore how to engage culture while staying true to biblical principles.

https://www.truthnetwork.com/

Celebrating together! Has your student or community done something noteworthy? We are collecting these stories, accomplishments, and events to celebrate and share the excitement of homeschooling. Please provide as much information as possible to completely tell the story. Share your story at http://www.classicalconversations.com/celebrate-together.

Can Homeschool Moms Be Government Officials? Oct 30, 2024

Can a homeschool mom shape state policy on educational freedom? In this episode, host Robert Bortins interviews Michigan State Representative Jamie Green, a homeschool mom and former Classical Conversations representative. They discuss proposed Michigan legislation that could track homeschool, private, and parochial students, raising concerns about parental rights. As Vice Chair of the House Education Committee, Jamie emphasizes the need for civic involvement to defend educational liberty and offers practical ways for parents to engage locally.

https://voteforgreene.com/

Celebrating together! Has your student or community done something noteworthy? We are collecting these stories, accomplishments, and events to celebrate and share the excitement of homeschooling. Please provide as much information as possible to completely tell the story. Share your story at http://www.classicalconversations.com/celebrate-together.

Should Christians Support The Amendment? Oct 23, 2024

Will Kentucky’s new amendment lead to less freedoms for homeschoolers? In today’s episode, Robert interviews Dr. Albert Mohler, President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. They discuss the new amendment that is being pushed in Kentucky, and while Dr. Mohler is for the amendment, Robert is more skeptical. Tune in to hear a thought-provoking conversation!

Resources: https://albertmohler.com/

Curious about homeschooling? Want to see Classical Conversations in action? Visit an Open House, where you’ll interact with parents, students, Tutors, and Directors in a local setting and discover the joy of our community-based approach. Don’t miss this opportunity to experience homeschooling in action! Find an Open House near you at https://classicalconversations.com/events/

How Should Christians Vote? Oct 16, 2024

Should Christians vote red or blue? In this episode, Robert dives into the timely topic of Christian voting. He breaks down key issues like life, religious freedom, and immigration, offering guidance on aligning your vote with a biblical worldview. Plus, Robert answers listener questions on navigating political differences and choosing candidates who may not fully reflect your values.

Voting Guide: https://mfv.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/PDF/2024-Party-Platform-Comparison-My-Faith-Votes.pdf

Robert's X Post: https://x.com/TheRobertBshow/status/1846220232563507650

Curious about homeschooling? Want to see Classical Conversations in action? Visit an Open House, where you’ll interact with parents, students, Tutors, and Directors in a local setting and discover the joy of our community-based approach. Don’t miss this opportunity to experience homeschooling in action! Find an Open House near you at https://classicalconversations.com/events/

Exploring The Great Unknown Oct 09, 2024

What happened to UFOs? Robert Bortins welcomes Dr. Josh Pierson, a military professional with 24 years of service and a doctorate in strategic security. Together, they dive into Dr. Pierson’s recent dissertation on the detectable signatures of Unidentified Aerospace Phenomena (UAPs). They discuss the intersection of national security, UAP research, and how the classical model of education helped shape Dr. Pierson’s methodology.

Discover the clarity you need to make the best decision for your family’s educational needs at one of our Information Meetings. Connect with experienced CC parents, learn about our unique classical, Christian programs, and find out if attending an Open House is your next step. Take control of your homeschooling journey by attending an Information Meeting. Find an Info Meeting near you at https://classicalconversations.com/events/

Can Public School Be A Training Ground For Faith? Oct 02, 2024

Can public school help your child’s faith grow? Robert and Chris critique an article from “Christianity Today” that suggests sending Christian children to public schools to build their faith. They argue public schools promote secular values that can harm a child's faith. Will also briefly discusses Bitcoin’s rise in value and the controversy surrounding SEC chair Gary Ginsler’s handling of crypto regulations.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2024/09/public-school-can-be-a-training-ground-for-faith/

The Secret Garden is a beloved classic novel. The footnotes include word definitions, pronunciations, and historical context to support life-long learning, enabling students to deepen their reading and thinking skills. Wide margins encourage note taking and having “conversations” with the book and its author. Learn more about the Copper Lodge Library at CopperLodgeLibrary.com.

Can AI Help Homeschoolers? Sep 25, 2024

Could AI be a game changer in your child’s education? Robert and Chris discuss back-to-school insights for parents and explore the role of AI in education, examining its potential benefits and drawbacks for both homeschoolers and traditional classrooms. Will closes out the episode with a crypto update.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/decade-of-childhood/202408/make-back-to-school-better-with-what-homeschoolers-do

https://www.govtech.com/education/how-education-technology-companies-pitch-ai-to-teachers

Pride and Prejudice is a beloved classic novel. The footnotes include word definitions, pronunciations, and historical context to support life-long learning, enabling students to deepen their reading and thinking skills. Wide margins encourage note taking and having “conversations” with the book and its author. Learn more about the Copper Lodge Library at https://copperlodgelibrary.com/.

Seeing the Future in 3D with Arel Avellino Sep 18, 2024

How can Christians make a meaningful impact in the digital space? Arel Avellino, a serial entrepreneur and storyteller, explores how homeschooling and unconventional paths shaped his career in tech and media. Learn about his innovative accelerator program aimed at empowering young Christians in 3D design and animation.

https://www.threedivision.com/

New to the Copper Lodge Library this year is English Epic Poetry, a collection with “Sir Gawain and the Green Knight”, and selections from Canterbury Tales and Paradise Lost. Build a family culture by reading these stories together and have meaningful conversations about wisdom and virtue. Even in the less overtly religious poems of Sir Gawain and Canterbury Tales, readers find Christian themes like courage, forgiveness, and right use of power. Learn more about the Copper Lodge Library at https://copperlodgelibrary.com/

Ask Me Anything Sep 11, 2024

Robert Bortins dives into a special “Ask Me Anything” session, answering a variety of questions from listeners. Topics range from the future of Classical Conversations events like summer and winter camps, to ways alumni can stay involved in the CC community. Robert also discusses the importance of engaging in politics from a Christian perspective, the challenges of homeschooling, and CC's stance on government funding for education.

The Secret Garden is a beloved classic novel. The footnotes include word definitions, pronunciations, and historical context to support life-long learning, enabling students to deepen their reading and thinking skills. Wide margins encourage note taking and having “conversations” with the book and its author. Learn more about the Copper Lodge Library at CopperLodgeLibrary.com.

Keep Homeschooling Legal Sep 04, 2024

Did you know that homeschooling wasn’t always legal? Robert interviews Jim Mason, President of HSLDA. They discuss Jim’s journey into homeschooling advocacy, the importance of legal support for homeschoolers, and the ongoing challenges to homeschooling freedom in the U.S. Jim shares advice for homeschool parents and emphasizes the need for vigilance in protecting educational liberties, especially with the rise of government regulations.

https://hslda.org/

Pride and Prejudice is a beloved classic novel. The footnotes include word definitions, pronunciations, and historical context to support life-long learning, enabling students to deepen their reading and thinking skills. Wide margins encourage note taking and having “conversations” with the book and its author. Learn more about the Copper Lodge Library at https://copperlodgelibrary.com/.

Does God Still Do Miracles? Aug 28, 2024

Does God still perform miracles? In this episode of “Refining Rhetoric,” Robert interviews author Daniel Fazzina about his incredible journey of faith and healing. Daniel shares his experiences of miraculous recoveries and discusses his book series which documents other miraculous stories. Tune in to hear Daniel's inspiring testimony and his thoughts on the power of faith and healing.

Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Intervention-Stories-Miracles-Today/dp/1621365549

New to the Copper Lodge Library this year is English Epic Poetry, a collection with Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, and selections from Canterbury Tales and Paradise Lost.

Build a family culture by reading these stories together and have meaningful conversations about wisdom and virtue. Even in the less overtly religious poems of Sir Gawain and Canterbury Tales, readers find Christian themes like courage, forgiveness, and right use of power.

Learn more about the Copper Lodge Library at https://copperlodgelibrary.com/

Challenge Students Who Shine Aug 21, 2024

In this back-to-school episode, Robert and Chris explore how classical education helps children think critically, reach their full potential, and develop leadership skills. The episode also highlights two standout Classical Conversations students. Will ends the episode with a crypto update.

https://classicalconversations.com/blog/the-core-chapters-1-3-back-to-school-exploring-the-classical-model/

https://www.pmg-ky1.com/sentinel_news/vanovers-bright-colors-result-in-winning-poster-design/article_f19e294f-66c4-5f44-8bdc-866781ce15d0.html

https://www.tulsapeople.com/city-desk/next-stop-broadway-pair-of-tulsans-win-discovery-awards/article_10b38336-4ab0-11ef-824d-0fca29c9f953.html

Pride and Prejudice is a beloved classic novel. The footnotes include word definitions, pronunciations, and historical context to support life-long learning, enabling students to deepen their reading and thinking skills. Wide margins encourage note taking and having “conversations” with the book and its author.

Learn more about the Copper Lodge Library at https://copperlodgelibrary.com/.

Aro – Easing The Technology Tension With Joey Odom Aug 14, 2024

Is your smartphone separating you from your family? Robert welcomes Joey Odom, co-founder of Aro, a company dedicated to helping families manage screen time and build healthier relationships with their smartphones. Joey shares personal stories, including a powerful moment when he missed his son’s first soccer goal because he was distracted by his phone. He discusses the negative impact of smartphone addiction on family life and how Aro provides a practical solution through its technology, which encourages intentional phone-free time.

https://refiningrhetoric.com/aro

The Secret Garden is a beloved classic novel. The footnotes include word definitions, pronunciations, and historical context to support life-long learning, enabling students to deepen their reading and thinking skills. Wide margins encourage note taking and having “conversations” with the book and its author.

Learn more about the Copper Lodge Library at CopperLodgeLibrary.com.

We're Back! And So Is Kamala Harris. Aug 07, 2024

Is Kamala Harris a Marxist? In this episode, Robert and Chris return from a brief hiatus to discuss recent major events, including a presidential race shake-up, controversial Olympic moments, and the implications of a famous Kamala Harris quote. Will closes the episode with a crypto update.

https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion/what-can-be-unburdened-by-what-has-been/

Pride and Prejudice is a beloved classic novel. The footnotes include word definitions, pronunciations, and historical context to support life-long learning, enabling students to deepen their reading and thinking skills. Wide margins encourage note taking and having “conversations” with the book and its author.

Learn more about the Copper Lodge Library at https://copperlodgelibrary.com/.

Is Christian Education A Biblical Commandment? Jul 31, 2024

Are Christians too combative when they’re countercultural? Pastor Doug Wilson has much to say on the topic. He shares his journey of over 40 years in ministry and his influence on classical Christian education. Pastor Wilson also discusses the importance of stepping outside of culturally accepted discourse to bring about change.

https://dougwils.com/

https://canonpress.com/

Pride and Prejudice is a beloved classic novel. The footnotes include word definitions, pronunciations, and historical context to support life-long learning, enabling students to deepen their reading and thinking skills. Wide margins encourage note taking and having “conversations” with the book and its author.

Learn more about the Copper Lodge Library at https://copperlodgelibrary.com/.

Indoctrinating Our Children To Death Jul 24, 2024

Is public school properly educating our children? Robert chats with Classical Conversations Senior Fellow, Alex Newman, CEO of Liberty Sentinel Media, discussing his new book, “Indoctrinating Our Children to Death.” They talk about the issues in public education, its impact on homeschool families, and the need to protect children from a corrupt system.

https://libertysentinel.org/

The Secret Garden is a beloved classic novel. The footnotes include word definitions, pronunciations, and historical context to support life-long learning, enabling students to deepen their reading and thinking skills. Wide margins encourage note taking and having “conversations” with the book and its author.

Learn more about the Copper Lodge Library at CopperLodgeLibrary.com.

The Art Of Purpose Jul 17, 2024

Can social media be used for good? In this episode, Robert chats with Dino, known as The Art of Purpose on X. Learn how he leveraged his skills to build an influential online presence, monetize his content, and help others do the same. Dino also discusses the importance of having a mission statement and how Christians can use social media to positively impact culture.

https://x.com/creation247

https://creation247.gumroad.com/l/masterclass247

Pride and Prejudice is a beloved classic novel. The footnotes include word definitions, pronunciations, and historical context to support life-long learning, enabling students to deepen their reading and thinking skills. Wide margins encourage note taking and having “conversations” with the book and its author.

Learn more about the Copper Lodge Library at https://copperlodgelibrary.com/.

BONUS EPISODE: Should Homeschoolers Use AI? Jul 12, 2024

In this bonus episode, Robert unpacks the latest homeschooling current events and more. Thanks for listening! For more information, check out https://sauga960am.ca/team/richard-syrett/.

Turning Texas Blue Jul 10, 2024

Will a stock exchange in Texas turn the state blue? Robert and Chris discuss BlackRock and Citadel Securities backing a new Texas Stock Exchange as an alternative to New York’s regulations. Plus, we revisit the GameStop saga and its market impact. Will closes the episode with a Classical Crypto segment.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-06-05/blackrock-citadel-back-upstart-texas-challenge-to-nyse-nasdaq

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/04/how-roaring-kittys-wealth-went-from-53000-to-nearly-300-million-and-could-one-day-top-1-billion.html

Pride and Prejudice is a beloved classic novel. The footnotes include word definitions, pronunciations, and historical context to support life-long learning, enabling students to deepen their reading and thinking skills. Wide margins encourage note taking and having “conversations” with the book and its author.

Learn more about the Copper Lodge Library at https://copperlodgelibrary.com/.

BONUS EPISODE: Regulating The Homeschool Revolution Jul 05, 2024

In this bonus episode, Robert unpacks the latest homeschooling current events and more. Thanks for listening! For more information, check out https://sauga960am.ca/team/richard-syrett/.

Beauty, Wisdom, and Liberal Arts in the Bible with Dr. Margarita Mooney Clayton Jul 03, 2024

How does classical education affect higher education? In this episode, we welcome Dr. Margarita Mooney Clayton, founder of the Scala Foundation and associate professor at Princeton Theological Seminary. Dr. Clayton discusses the importance of beauty, liberal arts education, and worship in restoring American culture.

https://margaritamooneyclayton.com/

https://scalafoundation.org/

The Secret Garden is a beloved classic novel. The footnotes include word definitions, pronunciations, and historical context to support life-long learning, enabling students to deepen their reading and thinking skills. Wide margins encourage note taking and having “conversations” with the book and its author.

Learn more about the Copper Lodge Library at CopperLodgeLibrary.com.

BONUS EPISODE - The Pros And Cons Of Homeschooling Jun 28, 2024

In this bonus episode, Robert unpacks the latest homeschooling current events and more. Thanks for listening! For more information, check out https://sauga960am.ca/team/richard-syrett/.

Children At Risk In Illinois, Donald Trump Guilty - Hurting The Election? Jun 26, 2024

What does Trump’s conviction mean for the election? Robert and Chris discuss the impact of Trump's guilty verdict on the election and the controversy over Illinois's hands-off approach to homeschooling. Will closes out the episode with exciting news about crypto.

ProPublica article:

https://www.propublica.org/article/illinois-homeschool-education-regulations

PBS Article:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/guilty-or-not-guilty-trump-verdict-wont-sway-most-voters-poll-shows

New to the Copper Lodge Library this year is English Epic Poetry, a collection with Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, and selections from Canterbury Tales and Paradise Lost.

Build a family culture by reading these stories together and have meaningful conversations about wisdom and virtue. Even in the less overtly religious poems of Sir Gawain and Canterbury Tales, readers find Christian themes like courage, forgiveness, and right use of power.

Learn more about the Copper Lodge Library at https://copperlodgelibrary.com/

BONUS EPISODE - Part Two: 10 Reasons To Opt Out Of Public School Jun 21, 2024

In this bonus episode, Robert unpacks the latest homeschooling current events and more. Thanks for listening! For more information, check out https://sauga960am.ca/team/richard-syrett/.

Sound of Hope: The Story of Possum Trot Jun 19, 2024

Foster care needs the Church’s help. Tune in to hear from Joe Knittig about the innovative Care Portal platform, which connects local churches with families in need, offering practical support like mattresses and refrigerators to prevent children from entering the system. Robert and Joe also talk about the upcoming movie “Sound of Hope: The Story of Possum Trot”.

https://www.careportal.org/

https://www.angel.com/movies/sound-of-hope-the-story-of-possum-trot

New to the Copper Lodge Library this year is English Epic Poetry, a collection with Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, and selections from Canterbury Tales and Paradise Lost.

Build a family culture by reading these stories together and have meaningful conversations about wisdom and virtue. Even in the less overtly religious poems of Sir Gawain and Canterbury Tales, readers find Christian themes like courage, forgiveness, and right use of power.

Learn more about the Copper Lodge Library at https://copperlodgelibrary.com/

BONUS EPISODE - Part One: 10 Reasons To Opt Out Of Public School Jun 14, 2024

In this bonus episode, Robert unpacks the latest homeschooling current events and more. Thanks for listening! For more information, check out https://sauga960am.ca/team/richard-syrett/.

How To Be A Christian In The Digital Space Jun 12, 2024

Discover the intersection of classical education and cutting-edge technology. Join Robert as he talks with Lex Avellino, a Classical Conversations graduate, about his journey from homeschooling to creating 3D virtual worlds for Disney and Warner Brothers. Lex shares how his classical education fueled his passion for learning and innovation in digital design.

https://www.threedivision.com/cc

https://www.passage.io/

https://x.com/lexavellino

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BONUS EPISODE - How To Keep Children Motivated Jun 07, 2024

In this bonus episode, Robert unpacks the latest homeschooling current events and more. Thanks for listening! For more information, check out https://sauga960am.ca/team/richard-syrett/.

Reflections on the Past 100 Episodes Jun 05, 2024

Celebrate with us as we hit a major milestone! Join Robert Bortins in the 100th episode of “Refining Rhetoric”! This special episode highlights ten impactful moments from our journey, offering inspiration and insights on faith, business, politics, and classical education. Thank you for being part of this incredible journey!

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BONUS EPISODE - Why You Don't Have To Know It All May 31, 2024

In this bonus episode, Robert unpacks the latest homeschooling current events and more. Thanks for listening! For more information, check out https://sauga960am.ca/team/richard-syrett/.

Louisiana and the Ten Commandments, Education Crisis, Future of Iran May 29, 2024

Should the Ten Commandments be displayed in schools? Robert Bortins tackles three pressing headlines in today’s episode: the growing crisis of confidence in higher education amid widespread student protests, the geopolitical impact of the sudden death of Iran’s president, and the controversial bill in Louisiana requiring schools to display the Ten Commandments. Will also closes out the episode with a Classical Crypto segment.

The crisis of confidence in higher education will not end with the student protests

Iran’s President Raisi is dead. What does the leadership void mean for the country and the world?

BREAKING: Louisiana Senate has passed a bill 30-8 that requires the display of the Ten Commandments at all schools that receive public funding, including colleges and universities.

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BONUS EPISODE: Dispelling Homeschool Myths May 24, 2024

In this bonus episode, Robert unpacks the latest homeschooling current events and more. Thanks for listening! For more information, check out https://sauga960am.ca/team/richard-syrett/.

Dr. Steve Turley's Take on Constructive Resistance May 22, 2024

Have the major news outlets become obsolete? Robert interviews Dr. Steve Turley, founder of “Turley Talks.” Known as the Patriot Professor, Dr. Turley discusses the rise of a new conservative age and the importance of creating a parallel economy to support freedoms. They explore challenges in mainstream media, the network society, and the need for alternative structures to live authentically.

https://www.youtube.com/@DrSteveTurleyTV

https://turleytalks.com/

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But What About Socialization? May 15, 2024

Are homeschoolers properly socialized? In this episode of Refining Rhetoric, host Robert Bortins examines the latest homeschooling news, including Michigan’s proposed registry and Alaska’s ruling on school choice dollars. Chris and Robert also discuss Waco hosting their largest homeschool prom ever, and whether homeschool kids are as anti-social as some make them out to be. A must-listen for insights on education, faith, and freedom, and Will closes the episode out with some crypto updates.

Michigan Homeschool Registry Article

Alaska School Choice Article

Waco's Largest Prom Article

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Crypto Videos:

YouTube: 3T Warrior Academy – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv6hwtgOQKQ

YouTube: CNBC Television – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se1bcqMYg8g

BONUS EPISODE - Roadschool - Homeschooling on the Go May 10, 2024

In this bonus episode, Robert unpacks the latest homeschooling current events and more. Thanks for listening! For more information, check out https://sauga960am.ca/team/richard-syrett/.

Raising Gen Z with Jason Jimenez May 08, 2024

How should Christian parents protect their children in a hostile culture? In this episode, Robert Bortins hosts Jason Jimenez, founder of Stand Strong Ministries, to discuss parenting Gen Z in a challenging culture and the rise of Progressive Christianity. Jimenez shares insights on proactive conversations with children and explains how Progressive Christianity redefines Jesus.

https://www.standstrongministries.org/

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BONUS EPISODE - Turning the Tides May 03, 2024

In this bonus episode, Robert unpacks the latest homeschooling current events and more. Thanks for listening! For more information, check out https://sauga960am.ca/team/richard-syrett/.

The Case for Trump May 01, 2024

How did bad media coverage of Donald Trump turn Robert from a “never Trumper” to a Trump supporter? Listen in as he and Chris navigate the case against the former U.S. President. Don’t miss this thought-provoking discussion on justice, media bias, and the future of American politics.

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BONUS EPISODE - Thoughts on Forest School Apr 26, 2024

In this bonus episode, Robert unpacks the latest homeschooling current events and more. Thanks for listening! For more information, check out https://sauga960am.ca/team/richard-syrett/.

Learning to Love the Language of Math with Leigh Bortins Apr 24, 2024

Discover the transformative journey of exploring math with Leigh Bortins, founder of Classical Conversations. From aerospace engineer to educator, Leigh shares insights into the innovative Math Map curriculum, fostering a love for math through language and curiosity. Join Robert and Leigh as they discuss the importance of finding God in math.

themathmap.com

Make April 26 a Family Day at theater! #UnsungHeroMovie opens everywhere beginning April 26. From the creators of Jesus Revolution comes Unsung Hero. Tickets on sale now. Visit https://tickets.unsunghero.movie/.

“BONUS EPS Homeschool Special - The Richard Syrett Show” Apr 19, 2024

In this bonus episode, Robert unpacks the latest homeschooling current events and more. Thanks for listening! For more information, check out https://sauga960am.ca/team/richard-syrett/.

Unlikely Allies Apr 17, 2024

Is Richard Dawkins a Christian nationalist? Robert and Chris discuss the prominent atheist’s surprising identification as a “cultural Christian” and author J. K. Rowling’s clash with the “woke” left over Scottish hate laws. The hosts explore whether Christian principles benefit society at large and why it’s vital for Christians to engage in politics.

Richard Dawkins Article

J. K. Rowling Article

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Fostering Confidence and Resilience with Stoa Apr 10, 2024

Discover how Stoa empowers students through classical education principles, fostering confidence and resilience. Join Robert Bortins in this episode of “Refining Rhetoric” as he explores the world of speech and debate with guests Angela Childress and Beth Nieva from Stoa, a National Christian Homeschool Speech and Debate League. Learn about starting a club, participating in tournaments, and integrating speech and debate with classical education.

https://stoausa.org/

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FAFSA Track to Demise Apr 03, 2024

Is the American college education system failing? In this episode of “Refining Rhetoric,” CEO Robert explores the pitfalls of government involvement in education funding, focusing on the Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA). Highlighting bureaucratic inefficiency and overreach, the discussion emphasizes the need for self-reliance, community building, and adherence to ethical principles rooted in faith.

CNBC Article

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Defining the Goal of Education with Frank Edelblut Mar 27, 2024

Drawing on his own experience with homeschooling his seven children, New Hampshire’s Education Commissioner Frank Edelblut discusses his approach to home education and reforming the state’s education system. He advocates for individualized learning over traditional models, and his initiatives are to innovate and humanize education in his role as commissioner.

www.education.nh.gov

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The Real SOTU Mar 20, 2024

In this “Refining Rhetoric” episode, host Robert Bortins evaluates President Biden’s performance on issues like the economy, climate, and more, using Politico’s report card. Will discusses cryptocurrency trends, particularly Bitcoin, offering his insights and criticisms.

Politico's Report Card

Gender Transition Lawsuit

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You Don't Have A Right To Education Mar 13, 2024

In this “Refining Rhetoric” episode, Robert Bortins and guest Lynne Taylor discuss the misconceptions around education as a basic human right and the dangers of school choice. Taylor critiques the Common Core standards and emphasizes the importance of individualized education over government-controlled standardization.

Lynne’s Website: https://www.commoncorediva.com/

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Is Bitcoin Replacing the Housing Market? Mar 06, 2024

In this episode of “Refining Rhetoric,” CEO Robert Bortins explores the intricate world of Bitcoin, emphasizing its relevance amidst rising inflation and the depreciating value of fiat currencies. Whether you're new to cryptocurrency or seeking to expand your understanding, this episode offers valuable insights into Bitcoin’s role as digital gold and its potential as a hedge against inflation.

Refining Rhetoric YouTube

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How to Think More Logically with Kathy Gibbens Feb 28, 2024

In this episode of “Refining Rhetoric,” CEO Robert Bortins interviews Kathy Gibbens, a dedicated homeschool mom, business owner, and host of the “Filter It through a Brain Cell” podcast. They dive deep into the realms of critical thinking, logical fallacies, and the importance of discerning truth in an era dominated by relativism and emotional appeals. Join them as they explore how classical education tools can empower individuals to seek truth and make informed decisions in all areas of life.

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He Gets Us: Hurtful or Helpful? Feb 21, 2024

In this episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert Bortins and Chris Blackburn discuss the “He Gets Us” campaign, exploring whether it accurately represents Jesus’s teachings and its impact on society’s view of faith. They delve into the challenges of depicting religious figures in modern media and what that means for viewers. Listen in for a compelling talk on how faith is portrayed today and its effects on cultural discussions.

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Homeschooling in an RV Feb 14, 2024

What if you sold your house and homeschooled in an RV? In this “Refining Rhetoric” episode, host Robert Bortins chats with Adam Powers, a veteran turned homeschooling dad living in an RV with his family. He offers advice to dads on getting involved in their children's education and discusses the benefits and challenges of their unique lifestyle.

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Why Education Affects Foreign Policy Feb 07, 2024

In this episode of “Refining Rhetoric,” Robert Bortins and Chris Blackburn explore the consequences of U.S. payments to Iran, linking them to Houthi attacks in the Red Sea, rising oil prices, and inflation. Through a classical education perspective, they discuss the importance of informed citizenship and community engagement in tackling these issues. The episode concludes with a Classical Crypto segment.

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How to be more Organized, Confident, and Influential | Applying the Classical Tools to Business Jan 31, 2024

Do you want to know to be more organized, confident, and influential? In this “Refining Rhetoric” episode, Robert Bortins hosts Mark Ramsay of Hip Socket, discussing the fusion of classical education with modern business strategies. The conversation also touches on the importance of early work experiences for students and previews Mark’s upcoming book, “The Lost Tools of Business,” highlighting the relevance of classical education in contemporary business practices.

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Single and Afraid Jan 24, 2024

In this episode of “Refining Rhetoric,” Robert focuses on the United States’ declining birth rates and its societal implications. The discussion centers on the need to revive traditional family values and Christian principles to counteract this trend. Additionally, for Classical Crypto, Will touches on the SEC’s approval of Bitcoin ETFs and its potential impact on finance.

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Unsilenced Voices: Safeguarding Free Expression with Jane Cook Jan 17, 2024

In this episode of “Refining Rhetoric,” host Robert Bortins is joined by historian and author Jane Hampton Cook. They discuss the importance of original source documents in understanding the Founding Fathers, the role of integrity in leadership, and the challenges of modern media and freedom of speech.

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Harvard's Dilemma Jan 10, 2024

Robert discusses the recent controversy surrounding Harvard University and its former president, Claudine Gay. The episode delves into the issues of plagiarism, diversity, and critical race theory at Harvard, highlighting how Claudine’s hiring was influenced more by her race and gender than her academic excellence. Robert also explores the broader implications of such ideologies in academia and society, emphasizing the importance of a biblical worldview and the pursuit of truth. Additionally, the episode touches on cryptocurrency trends, particularly related to Bitcoin’s halving cycles.

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What Skills Are Employers Looking For? with Ben Merkle of New Saint Andrews College Jan 03, 2024

Does a college degree guarantee a job? In this episode, Robert talks with Dr. Benjamin Merkle, president of New Saint Andrews College, a classical Christian college in Idaho. In their conversation, Ben speaks to why NSA and other colleges are looking for students with a classical education background, how NSA is able to keep their tuition costs affordable and transparent, how a college can keep a good reputation amidst the current college climate, why liberal arts degrees can be kept affordable, what parents need to know before sending their children to secular universities, what students should aim to get out of a Christian college experience, and why college isn’t always the ticket to getting a good job. Robert and Ben also discuss our society’s backward prioritization of college athletics over college academics and whether there is a place for sports in a higher-education setting. Finally, Ben answers why NSA and other colleges are refusing to accept federal grants, his best advice for Classical Conversations® Challenge graduates, and what the most in-demand skill is for students entering the workforce.

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/Ben-Merkle

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Defining Truth with Robert Bortins Dec 27, 2023

What is truth? Our world is overrun with subjective truth, postmodernism, and emotionalism, where everyone’s “truth” is equally valid and there’s no such thing as objective truth. But this is a lie. As Refining Rhetoric is all about seeking the capital-T Truth in every arena of life, throughout the course of 2023 Robert asked his guests to weigh in with their definitions of truth. In this wrap-up episode for the year, Robert replays and reacts to the best responses from his guests to the question, “What is truth?” As you hear from guests like Dale Partridge, David Goodwin, Joyce Burges, Israel Wayne, and more, you’ll discover that truth is a person, why you can’t build a society on lies, that the church is the pillar of truth, why you can’t believe in your own subjective truth and still believe in Jesus, why you shouldn’t send your children to schools that don’t believe in objective truth, why truth is anything that fits into God’s narrative, why real truth never changes, why our relationship with Christ ought to motivate our obedience to Him, off of what standard we should base our understanding of truth, and much more. Finally, in “Classical Crypto,” Will discusses the current market sentiment and why there is reason to be optimistic about crypto in 2024.

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/defining-truth

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Can Screen Time be Good? with Brent Dusing Dec 20, 2023

Are video games good for your child? Some can be! In this episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert talks with Brent Dusin, founder and CEO of TruPlay Games, a media company creating video games, comics, and video content centered on stories with a Christian worldview. With high-quality Christian content and no in-app purchases, no chatrooms, and no ads, TruPlay is truly unique in the video game industry, uplifting and educating children and their families with the truth of God’s word. In this conversation, discover why fewer American children believe in God, the importance of providing Christian content in a sea of toxic content, and how TruPlay tells biblical stories through video games. Brent also shares insights into the popularity of TruPlay’s games in Christian homes, games that span true biblical narratives to imaginative tales of cartoon characters navigating real-world challenges and discovering faith in God. Finally, Brent and Robert explore why Disney fails to inspire whole families anymore.

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Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/Brent-Dusing

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Stop Being Polite! How Civility Can Save Our Country with Alexandra Hudson Dec 13, 2023

Can civility save our country? In this episode, Robert talks with Alexandra Hudson, an award-winning journalist, speaker, and author of the book The Soul of Civility: Timeless Principles to Heal Society and Ourselves. “A refugee from the federal government,” Alexandra grew up in a home that prioritized politeness and viewed education as a lifestyle. Yet when she began working for the U.S. Department of Education, Alexandra soon discovered that her coworkers used politeness for corruption and also didn’t care about education. In this conversation, Alexandra discusses her disillusionment with the Department of Education, not living a boxed life, the difference between politeness and civility, why we need less politeness in the world, how to respect someone while sharing hard truths, why the left and right don’t share the same vision, how incivility hurts both others and ourselves, how one individual can start a quiet revolution that can change the world, and how the classical model of education can be used to teach future generations the art of being civil.

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Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/Alexandra-Hudson

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Do Regular Moms Stand a Chance Against The Experts? Dec 06, 2023

Are you your child’s best teacher? In this episode, Robert reacts to a video of Leigh Bortins and Corey McKeown, director of the Trinity Homeschool Academy (T.E.A.C.H.) in Tampa, Florida, discussing the rise of homeschooling with Pete Hegseth on Fox and Friends. In the video, Corey explains why there has been an explosion of homeschooling in her state due to the success of homeschool co-ops where students can take classes from expert teachers. Unconvinced, Robert analyzes whether it’s necessary to send homeschool students to a co-op to learn from an expert instead of “just another mom.” In other words, can everyday parents rely on the classical tools of learning and community support to teach their children any subject? Finishing it up, Robert reflects on the true reasons why homeschooling is seeing a surge not just in Florida but nationwide as parents wake up to the nonsense in the traditional school system. In “Classical Crypto,” Will catches us up on the latest news on the downfall of Sam-Bankman Fried, the collapse of FTX, and the ultimate trial results.

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/Leigh-on-Fox

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How to Increase Your Child's Attention Span with Andrew Kern Nov 29, 2023

What should your child’s classical education look like in the modern world? In this episode, Robert talks with Andrew Kern, founder and president of the CiRCE Institute, co-author of The Lost Tools of Writing, and one of the leading figures in the classical education movement. Here, Andrew identifies why the true purpose of classical education is to cultivate wisdom and virtue through the nourishment of students’ souls. Throughout this packed conversation, expect to learn where government-funded education in America first went wrong, why training your child to fight against distraction is crucial to their spiritual and intellectual development, how to become better at any skill such as writing, how to actually get your child to pay attention, why students still need to practice the lost tools of learning in an AI-driven world, and why the terms “artificial intelligence” and “virtual reality” are not only misleading but, in fact, don’t really mean anything at all.

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/Andrew-Kern

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Young Earth vs. Old Earth: Why Your Take Matters! with Eric Hovind Nov 15, 2023

Is the earth really only a few thousand years old? In this episode, Robert speaks to Eric Hovind, founder of Creation Today, a Christian apologetics ministry with a mission to share the Gospel to the entire world. Eric relates his personal testimony and journey with apologetics, clarifies what “apologetics” really means, delves into his approach to apologetics in the digital age, underscores the contemporary relevancy of creation theory, and points out why the creation vs. evolution debate is a necessary spiritual battle. He also discusses the young earth and old earth theories of the age of the earth, how these theories impact one’s faith, how evolution destroys the doctrine of salvation, and why young earth theory is pro-science, explaining that “real science is a believer’s best friend.” If you’re a homeschool parent, expect to also learn ways to engage your children in conversations about creation vs. evolution and discover several resources to guide you in this journey.

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/Eric-Hovind

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Why Gen Z Males Prefer The Right Nov 08, 2023

Is there hope for Gen Z? In this current events episode, Robert explores the reasons why Gen Z boys are leaning conservative twice as much as liberal, as discovered by a recent survey that contradicts the widely held narrative that Gen Z has a leftist bent. Then, in Classical Crypto, Will returns to consider what might happen to the crypto market if the government shuts down and to give a quick overview of Stellar (XLM).

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/why-gen-z-males-prefer-the-right

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Biblical Parenting Wisdom with Josh Mulvihill Nov 01, 2023

We plan for all the major goals in our lives—retirement, a career, a new car or home purchase. So, why don’t most of us create plans for raising our children, which is far more important? In this episode, Robert speaks to Dr. Josh Mulvihill, an author, speaker, and advocate for family discipleship and biblical parenting. Josh was a church pastor for twenty years and now serves on the board of Awana, as the Executive Director of Church and Family Ministry at RenewaNation, and as an author of several books on biblical parenting, the most recent of which is 50 Things Every Child Needs to Know Before Leaving Home: Raising Children to Godly Adults. In this conversation, Josh sheds light on why many Christian parents are failing to disciple their children well and what we can do as the church to turn this around. Discover how to master the art of biblical parenting from what Scripture says, Josh’s own childhood experiences, his efforts in raising his own children, and many, many book recommendations about taking a Christ-centered approach to parenting. Josh also shares a glimpse into his own family life, including why his family started their own farm, how each of his children is saving for college by running their own enterprise, what family worship looks like in the Mulvihill household, and much more.

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/Josh-Mulvihill

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Miracle in East Texas, Cancel Culture, and Movies That Make You Think with Sam Sorbo Oct 25, 2023

Can movies save education? Here, Robert talks for the second time on Refining Rhetoric with Hollywood actress, podcast host, and Classical Conversations® parent and Director Sam Sorbo about her family’s upcoming film Miracle in East Texas. The film, delayed due to COVID-19, is now coming to theaters nationwide for an exclusive release on the weekend of October 29–30 and tells the true story of the biggest oil strike in the history of the United States. In this episode, Sam talks about working with her husband Kevin and son Braeden on Miracle in East Texas, why she created a homeschool curriculum to accompany the film, and how movies can serve as powerful tools to educate our students and encourage discussions about truth. Sam also recalls how Classical Conversations came into her life at just the right moment and gave her children the skills to succeed in their education, careers, and lives. Additionally, she and Robert discuss why cancel culture—a culture rooted in unforgiveness—is antithetical to Christianity and why the public school system demeans the true meaning of the word “education”.

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/Sam-Sorbo-2

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Christian Humanism: Not What You Think! with Scott Postma Oct 18, 2023

Are Christianity and humanism compatible worldviews? In this episode, Robert sits down with Scott Postma, a Christian humanist writer and president of Kepler Education. Scott explains why Christian humanism is probably not what you think, putting it up against another philosophy more are familiar with—secular humanism. He discusses the origins of Christian humanism and the great thinkers behind this philosophy, including the brilliant minds of J. R. R. Tolkien and Flannery O’Connor. Scott also explores what he believes the future of online classical education will look like and how Kepler Education, “a marketplace for live online classical Christian education,” is giving teachers and students of the classics a safe place to learn and discover truth, beauty, and goodness. Of course, no Refining Rhetoric episode is complete without book recommendations. Here, you’ll find great entry points to discovering Flannery O’Connor, the philosophy of Christian humanism, and why classical education is just as important now as ever.

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/Scott-Postma

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Hamas is Using U.S. Funds to Slaughter Israel Oct 11, 2023

In this episode, Robert uses the fifteen classical tools of learning to examine the recent tragic events in Israel and Palestine. He considers the following questions: Why has the U.S. funded Palestine, and how has this impacted the current conflict? Who is the oppressor and the oppressed in this situation? Is critical theory to blame? And is there a possibility of Palestinian terrorist attacks in our own country?

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/israel-palestine

Overhauling Workplace Culture with Troy Meachum Oct 04, 2023

Business leaders, listen up! In this episode, Robert welcomes his longtime friend and business mentor Troy Meachum to the show. Troy is the CEO of ACR Supply Co., North Carolina’s leading wholesale distributor for heating, ventilation, air conditioning, and refrigeration which, last year, exceeded $45 million in revenue. In their conversation, Troy shares how to turn a company culture around and transform the workplace into somewhere employees want to show up every day. Expect to learn what it was like for Troy to incorporate faith into his work culture, how to glorify God at work, how to hire employees who fit a company’s culture, how to maintain a company’s culture while scaling, how to boost employee satisfaction and engagement, and why it’s crucial for C-level leaders to communicate clearly to and care about the personal lives of their employees. Plus, discover Troy’s top five best books for business leaders.

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/Troy-Meachum

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Devastating Blows for Pro-Life and Financial Freedom Sep 27, 2023

It’s time for another stand-alone episode of current events and Classical Crypto! First, Robert analyzes why Ohio voters attempted to raise the threshold percentage for making amendments to their state’s constitution (an effort to protect abortion rights in their state). Then, Robert takes a closer look at the EU’s “quiet and slow” approach to deciding on a digital euro (a CBDC), considering why this proposal, made silently right before an election, seems a little off.

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/devastating-blows-for-pro-life-and-financial-freedom

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What We Can Learn From Historical Fiction with Jim Hodges of Jim Hodges Audiobooks Sep 20, 2023

What can we learn from reading (or listening to) historical fiction? In this episode, Robert interviews Jim Hodges of Jim Hodges Audiobooks, a beloved resource among families around the world, most notably for productions of the historical novels of G. A. Henty. Here, Jim discusses his life before founding Jim Hodges Audiobooks: what homeschooling was like in the 1980s as a military family, being a reluctant homeschooler turned homeschool advocate, and how one teacher’s encouragement changed the trajectory of his life. Later, he praises G. A. Henty’s historical fiction, sharing what these novels can teach readers about history and godly, heroic masculinity. With decades of experience reading and narrating both historical nonfiction and fiction, Jim also recalls the most important lessons he has learned from history. And finally, as one making a living from his passion, he offers advice to aspiring entrepreneurs.

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/jim-hodges

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Telling the Future with the 15 Tools & Why Classical Crypto Sep 13, 2023

In this shorter-than-usual episode, Robert uses the fifteen tools of classical learning to understand current events and cryptocurrency. First, he examines why property taxes are causing citizens of blue cities to relocate to red states and how these property taxes are related to the government funding of private education through school vouchers. In the Classical Crypto segment, Robert goes back to the basics and explains why this segment is a part of Refining Rhetoric. He discusses the history of money and how Bitcoin solves many of the fiat-related problems that have been around since money first became a store of value.

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/telling-the-future

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Why a Homeschool Dad is Running for NC Lieutenant Governor with Allen Mashburn Sep 06, 2023

Our nation is only as great as our families. In this episode, Robert interviews pastor Allen Mashburn, running candidate for North Carolina Lieutenant Governor. Allen is a pastor of over twenty-five years, a podcast host, and a homeschool dad. Here, Allen focuses on the importance of the nuclear family, the Christian’s and the church’s roles in politics (drawing from biblical examples), what it means to be the salt and light of the earth, and why he, as a pastor, is running for office. In addition, Robert and Allen discuss gun control and safety (including nuances like permitless carry), the next steps in fighting abortion post the Dobbs decision, spiritual warfare in politics, and why the 2024 presidential election may be the most important yet in our country. This is a conversation for more than just NC residents, addressing crucial issues at a national level.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/allen-mashburn

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Doing Hard Things for Christ with Robert’s Executive Assistant Sara Sullards [Challenge Series] Aug 30, 2023

In this first-ever in-person episode, Robert interviews Sara Sullards, his Executive Assistant and a Classical Conversations® Challenge graduate, about doing hard things for Christ. Encouraged by her parents and inspired by the book Do Hard Things, Sara was called to mission work at an early age. In this conversation, she describes how God strengthened her faith through mission trips to Alaska, how an intentional prayer life can make all the difference in one’s faith, and why teenagers should consider serving on mission trips, as well as suggesting a few ways parents can encourage their children to hone their spiritual gifts. In addition, Sara shares how she came to work for Classical Conversations and what it’s really like working at the home office. Post-interview, Robert considers whether businesses should adapt to using AI tools and Will recaps the recent BRICS summit and Bitcoin’s flash crash earlier this month.

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/Sara-Sullards

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From Classroom to Cockpit: A Classical Conversations Alumnus Soars as Pilot and Mentor with Mayson Foster [Challenge Series]] Aug 23, 2023

Are Classical Conversations® students equipped to pursue their passions? Continuing this month’s theme of bringing Challenge students and graduates onto the show, Robert welcomes Mayson Foster, a flight instructor at Louisiana Tech University, to share about his journey from homeschooling to becoming a pilot. Mayson discusses the path to earning a pilot’s license, the value of his family’s support in this journey, and how being classically educated equipped him with the knowledge and skills to succeed. Plus, the two discuss the national shortage of commercial airline pilots and potential solutions to this crisis. From recalling his first flight to sharing the life lessons he has learned from flying, Mayson encourages Challenge students that achieving their dreams is possible. After their conversation, Robert analyzes the effects of the UPS shipping strike and Will discusses Twitter’s rebrand to X, the platform’s potential integration of XRP, and the crypto token Chainlink.

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/Mayson-Foster

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Regulating Memes, Creative Entrepreneurship, and More with Micah Burk [Challenge Series] Aug 16, 2023

Is entrepreneurship a real career? In this conversation, Robert talks with Micah Burk, a Classical Conversations® Challenge graduate and recent college graduate of Oklahoma Christian University, where she studied public communications and leadership development and served as student body president. Starting her first business at age eleven, Micah shares her experience finding her feet in the world of entrepreneurship—from founding a social media agency and landing a first client to viewing her business as a creative outlet and why rejecting clients is sometimes the best decision. In addition, Micah speaks to what it means to achieve success as a Christian, offers book recommendations (and general reading advice) for driven individuals, shares her thoughts on why teenagers should get involved in politics, and discusses the importance of knowing your “why” when it comes to achieving goals. Finally, Micah addresses a question on every homeschool parent’s mind for their student: did she feel prepared for college? After their conversation, Robert breaks down the Biden administration’s recent ban on incandescent light bulbs and examines the UK’s attempt to hold crypto memes up to financial guidelines.

Show notes: RefiningRhetoric.com/Micah-Burk

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Flipping the Script: Challenge Student Interviews Robert | Featuring Dominic DiPiero Aug 09, 2023

The script is flipped in this episode as Robert takes the seat of the interviewee while Classical Conversations® Challenge student Dominic DiPiero asks him both professional and personal questions. In their quick conversation recorded at our 2022 National Conference, Robert shares his favorite part about working for Classical Conversations, what program he would go back and enroll in, advice for students entering Challenge, why Challenge graduates excel in the workplace, how he spends his spare time, and what Classical Conversations’ goals are for the long-term future. Post-interview, Robert uses the fifteen tools of learning to analyze the Hunter Biden/IRS situation and then considers Congressman Ritchie Torres’s view that the SEC should stop viewing cryptocurrencies as securities in the wake of the SEC v. Ripple case.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/dominic-dipiero

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Restoration of the Mind: A Biblical Approach to the Mental Health Crisis with Danielle Hodges [Challenge Series] Aug 02, 2023

August is CC student month! In this conversation, Robert speaks with Danielle Hodges, a Classical Conversations® Challenge graduate currently enrolled at Truett McConnell University studying to become a biblical counselor. After experiencing firsthand God’s healing through biblical counseling during her teen years, she has made it a goal to pursue helping others in a similar way through a Christ-centered approach to counseling. Here, Danielle discusses the differences between secular and biblical counseling, examples of counseling in the Scriptures, why Gen Z members are making mental health issues part of their identities, resources and tactics for listeners to learn about biblical counseling and apply its principles in everyday conversations, and her thoughts on the causes and impacts of the teenage mental health crisis, considering whether or not social media is to blame. Plus, Danielle shares how God used her relationship with her mom to help her overcome anxiety as a teenager. Stay tuned after the interview as Robert examines whether recent inflation statistics are being falsely reported and Will celebrates the upcoming conclusion to the SEC v. Ripple case.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/danielle-hodges

Transformative Theology with Dr. Samuel Bierig of Spurgeon College Jul 26, 2023

What does learning true biblical theology at a college level look like? In this episode, Robert sits down with Dr. Samuel Bierig. A Classical Conversations® dad, Sam is the vice president of undergraduate studies, college dean, and assistant professor of biblical studies at Spurgeon College, a private Christian college in Kansas City, Missouri. In this conversation, Sam discusses what it means to be a good shepherd, the importance of hermeneutics and exegesis, balancing multiple responsibilities, strategies for reading the whole Bible in one year, why a college degree is still worth the cost, and all things Spurgeon College—including degrees, core values, and the school’s focus on the true biblical theology. After the interview, Robert explains why thousands of new jobs are affecting the stock market and examines Bitcoin’s recent 13-month high.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/samuel-bierig

What Gen. Z Wants From Education with Dr. Charles Scott | Oral Roberts University Jul 19, 2023

What does it mean to offer students a “whole-person education”? In this third conversation in our college series this July, Robert sits down with Dr. Charles Scott, the Vice President of External Affairs at Oral Roberts University (ORU), a private Christian college located in Tulsa, Oklahoma, whose mission is “to develop Holy Spirit-empowered leaders through whole-person education to impact the world.” They discuss what a whole-person education looks like practically at ORU, what cultural challenges college students face today, how to prepare students for work as worship, how to engage Generation Z students for Christ, and how Christ-centered businesses can serve the community around them. After the interview, Robert addresses the lowest decline in writing and math scores in decades in the U.S. and Will explains Blackrock’s proposed Bitcoin ETF.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/charles-scott

Education that Builds a Life, Not Just A Living with Andrew Chambers | Excel College Jul 12, 2023

“Learn to build a life, not just a living” is the slogan of Excel College in North Carolina, a unique higher education experience that equips students with skills for the whole of life, including their careers, relationships, and faith. In this conversation, Robert speaks with Andrew Chambers, Head of Campus Life at Excel. Andrew discusses Excel’s unique philosophy and approach to higher education, emphasizing the two phases the college’s students work through—the Core and the Practicum. In addition, Andrew describes the family-style campus environment at Excel, why companies are seeking liberal arts students, how Excel students can graduate with bachelor’s degrees in just two and a half years, and much more. Afterward, in this episode’s “Current Events Discussion,” Robert uses the classical tools of learning to understand the Canadian wildfires and, in the “Classical Crypto” segment, debunks two popular myths about crypto: that it has no use cases and is untraceable.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/andrew-chambers

The Toxic War on Masculinity with Nancy Pearcey Jul 07, 2023

What’s wrong with masculinity? In this bonus episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert interviews critically acclaimed author and speaker Nancy Pearcey about her new book The Toxic War on Masculinity: How Christianity Reconciles the Sexes. Nancy is the author of several bestselling books, including Love Thy Body, The Soul of Science, Saving Leonardo, Finding Truth, and Total Truth. She is also a professor and scholar in residence at Houston Christian University and has been hailed in The Economist as “America’s pre-eminent evangelical Protestant female intellectual.” In this crucially important conversation, Nancy shares the research behind The Toxic War on Masculinity, examining the history of why modern culture is so hostile toward men, the Darwinian and Christian takes on masculinity, astonishing evidence that supports Christian evangelical men as the least likely to divorce or commit abuse, how the war on masculinity is affecting our culture at a large scale, and what men can practically do to stay involved with their families. This is an episode you won’t want to miss!

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/nancy-pearcey

How to Encourage College Students for Christ with Dr. Thomas White of Cedarville University Jul 05, 2023

July is college month here on Refining Rhetoric! For the next four weeks, we’ll feature a university that aligns with our values both in faith and education, as well as our mission to know God and to make Him known. This week, Robert speaks with Dr. Thomas White, the tenth president of Cedarville University in Ohio and a Classical Conversations® dad. Thomas explains how running Cedarville is a ministry opportunity, what a thriving Christian community looks like on their college campus, and how Cedarville is preparing for the college “enrollment cliff”—the decline in the population of college-age students starting in 2025. Plus, Thomas encourages parents homeschooling with Classical Conversations that they are doing more than enough to prepare their students for college-level education. And, if you or your student are considering pursuing a college degree, you’ll discover what opportunities are available at Cedarville. After the interview, Robert considers why Greta Thunberg’s doomsday prediction made five years ago did not happen, and Will theorizes why the U.S. government appears to be reversing some of its public opinions on crypto.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/thomas-white

Starting a Bitcoin Business with Alex Hays Jun 28, 2023

Where is your money safe: in the bank or in Bitcoin? In this episode’s conversation, Robert interviews Classical Conversations® homeschool dad Alex Hays, the founder of Orion & Taurus, a company based in South Florida that specializes in repairs of ASIC machines and GPUs for Bitcoin miners. Alex shares his thoughts on questions that are on the minds of many Americans interested in personal finance and crypto: Where is our money safe? Is Bitcoin a hedge against inflation? And is Bitcoin mining sustainable? Alex also talks about balancing homeschooling with running a business, gives his best book recommendations for entrepreneurs, offers his opinions on the controversial yet highly influential book The 48 Laws of Power, and much more. After his conversation with Alex, Robert addresses the recent nationwide crackdown on remote work, and Will returns to give an update on the three recent SEC lawsuits against Coinbase, Binance, and Ripple (XRP).

Disclaimer: This episode is purely for education and entertainment purposes only. Nothing discussed in this conversation should be taken as financial advice.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/alex-hays

A Classical Look at Micah 6:8 with Pastor George Grant [Dad's Series] Jun 21, 2023

What’s wrong with the modern social justice movement? In this episode, Robert is joined by Dr. George Grant, a pastor, prolific author, and founder of several classical, Christian schools, colleges, and educational organizations. Here, George talks about the distinction between mercy ministry and the social justice movement, the importance of proclaiming biblical truth in a God-honoring manner, the role of classical education as discipleship, and practical ways Christians can help the homeless. Later, Robert uses the classical tools of learning to analyze the risks of generative AI art and to examine the SEC’s legal action against Coinbase, the leading crypto exchange in the U.S.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/george-grant

Coming To Christ Through CC with Howard Hochhalter [Dad's Series] Jun 14, 2023

Ever wonder what the star of Bethlehem that led the wise men to Christ’s birth really looked like? In this episode, Robert talks to Howard Hochhalter, a marine turned astronomer and NASA Solar System Ambassador and an atheist turned Christian and Classical Conversations® dad. In this powerful conversation, Howard tells his incredible testimony of coming to know Jesus through a chance meeting with a homeschool family, being welcomed by the believers in his family’s Classical Conversations community, and studying the history and astronomy behind the real star of Bethlehem. He also shares what fascinates him about the night sky and what he does as a NASA Solar System Ambassador and director of a planetarium. In the "Current Events Discussion," Robert considers the possibility of a secret government program monitoring UFOs and then wraps things up by explaining USDT (Tether) in "Classical Crypto."

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/howard-hochhalter

Becoming an EQ Gangster with Noble Gibbens Jun 07, 2023

Our emotions can be complicated, and understanding how they work and how to deal with them is crucial to maintaining healthy relationships both in the workplace and at home. In this episode, Robert chats with Classical Conversations® dad, former army ranger, and longtime friend Noble Gibbens about why Noble became an emotional intelligence (EQ) consultant and helps individuals and teams understand and manage their emotions. Noble explains what an EQ consultant does, narrates a powerful story of helping a stone-cold business leader develop empathy, offers numerous book recommendations for both readers wanting to grow in their EQ and for entrepreneurs, describes the purpose of EQ, gives advice to parents teaching their children about emotions, and finally tells the story of how developing his own EQ helped him become a better leader, husband, and father. After the interview, Robert addresses the Target/Pride Month controversy and explores why the UK Parliament is calling for crypto regulations. Tune in for another insight-packed episode of Refining Rhetoric!

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/noble-gibbens

AI, Acrobatics, Entrepreneurship, Mentoring, and More with Nathan Burns May 31, 2023

Robert welcomes Classical Conversations® Challenge graduate Nathan Burns to the show for a wide-ranging conversation on homeschooling, machine learning, AI, acrobatics, Christian mentorship, and much, much more. Nathan narrates his journey from growing up homeschooled in a military family to studying economics in college to becoming a machine learning engineer and entrepreneur. Together, Robert and Nathan explore how AI can free up our time through automation, the danger in biased AI systems, the timeless wisdom in the book of Proverbs, why faith-based mentorship is needed among young men, the lessons Nathan gained from doing acrobatics through childhood, and his experience competing on America’s Got Talent. Plus, Nathan shares tips for homeschool parents wanting to teach their children to code. Stay tuned after the interview to hear Robert examine the recent acquisition of three major U.S. education companies by a Chinese private equity firm and to listen to Will offer his thoughts on the current state of American politics and crypto.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/nathan-burns

Chasing The Calling to Heritage with Patti Garibay May 24, 2023

What does it take to leave an organization your family has been involved with for generations? On this episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert interviews Patti Garibay, the founder and executive director of American Heritage Girls, an adventure program that encourages Christ-centered leadership and character development for girls ages 5–18. In their conversation, Patti discusses leaving Girl Scouts USA to start a Christ-centered alternative, how to avoid mission drift as an organization and stay fast to your core values, the significance behind the American Heritage Girls’ oath and creed, helping start Trail Life USA, and what we can do about the disconcerting rise in mental health issues among teen girls. Stick around after the interview for our “Current Events Discussion” and “Classical Crypto” segments, where this week Robert explores the possibility of reaching the national debt ceiling and whether on-chain metrics and the upcoming Bitcoin halving are valid predictors of a crypto bull market.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/patti-garibay

Parental Rights vs. Government Responsibility - Where to Draw the Line with William Estrada May 17, 2023

Parental rights: are these God-given, natural rights or state-defined? In this conversation, Robert talks with longtime friend Will Estrada, president of ParentalRights.org and the Parental Rights Foundation, two nonprofits holding fast to the belief that parents should be able to raise their children without undue government interference. Together, they explore what the term “parental rights” actually means and why it's important to enshrine parental rights in an amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Plus, Will shares his personal journey from growing up homeschooled to now defending parents’ rights to their children’s education and freedom. Post-interview, Robert addresses recent advances in AI using the classical tools of learning and then explains an educational game about crypto created by a homeschool family called HODL Up.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/william-estrada

The Abdication of Man with Dale Partridge May 10, 2023

Do we have a truly biblical view of masculinity and femininity? In this episode, Robert Bortins sits down with author and entrepreneur Dale Partridge to discuss how to bring the church back to the Bible, specifically on the topic of gender. Dale, the president of Relearn.org and Reformation Seminary and the author of several books, including People Over Profit, talks here about the modern church’s move away from biblical masculinity, the manliness of Jesus Christ, his decision to write the children’s book Jesus and My Gender, and the criticism he has received for several of his views. After their conversation, Robert turns toward current events, explaining Trump’s decision not to attend a GOP presidential debate and the SEC’s recent lawsuit against the crypto exchange Coinbase.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/dale-partridge

Correcting the Radical Detour with Jeremy Tate May 03, 2023

Can tests actually inspire students rather than just stressing them out? Here, Robert talks with Jeremy Tate, founder and CEO of the Classic Learning Test, an education company that provides assessments that are intellectually richer and more rigorous than traditional standardized tests and college entrance exams. Jeremy discusses where standardized testing has gone wrong, the virtues and future of classical education, what sets CLT exams apart from other standardized tests like the SAT and ACT, and why so many colleges are gladly awarding scholarships based on students’ CLT exam scores. After the conversation with Jeremy, Robert uses the classical tools of learning to help listeners understand Tucker Carlson’s departure from Fox News and, in the “Classical Crypto” segment, considers why the federal government is selling its Bitcoin.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/jeremy-tate

The Battle for America with David Goodwin Apr 26, 2023

Where did the public school system go wrong? In this episode, Robert discusses the miseducation of America with David Goodwin. David is the president of the Association of Classical Christian Schools (ACCS), the managing director of The Classical Difference magazine, cofounder and former headmaster of The Ambrose School, and, most recently, coproducer, along with Pete Hegseth of Fox News, of the six-part docuseries The Miseducation of America. Together, David and Pete also authored the recent #1 New York Times Bestseller, The Battle for the American Mind: Uprooting a Century of Miseducation. In this conversation, David shares his perspective on the current state of education in the United States, explains the concept of "paideia" and how traditional schools have lost the Western Christian Paideia, and considers why classical education has been gaining so much recent attention nationwide. Later in the episode, Robert discusses the potential changes to Title IX, and Will theorizes on why Bitcoin’s value has skyrocketed.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/david-goodwin

Developing a Christian Worldview with Israel Wayne Apr 19, 2023

Does God have an opinion on education? In this episode, Robert welcomes back Refining Rhetoric’s first returning guest, Israel Wayne, who has spent decades researching the answer to this question. Together, they discuss Israel’s new book Foundations in Faith, sharing homeschooling responsibilities with one’s spouse, the fundamental thing missing from the traditional school system, whether education is morally neutral, and the importance of developing a Christian worldview, while also sharing helpful resources to help listeners get started along this path. After their conversation, Robert uses the classical tools of learning to analyze Brazil and China’s recent agreement to trade oil outside the U.S. dollar, followed by a “Classical Crypto” segment on bear markets vs. bull markets.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/israel-wayne-2

Just One Thing, Classical Assessment with Amanda Butler Apr 12, 2023

How can we assess progress and performance without assigning grades? In this episode, Robert talks with Amanda Butler, Vice President of Training and Support at Classical Conversations®, about what classical, Christian assessment should look like. From engineer to public school teacher to homeschool mom, Amanda draws from her unique experience to share what she has learned about how to encourage students to improve without stifling their motivation and creativity. She discusses how classical assessment is different from public school testing, the principles of classical assessment, the common pitfalls homeschool parents can fall into when assessing their children’s learning, and advice for young parents at the start of the homeschooling journey. Post-interview, Robert uses the classical tools of learning to break down what is happening with Trump’s indictment and then takes a critical look at FedNow, the new instantaneous digital transfer system from the U.S. Federal Reserve, and how it relates to crypto.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/amanda-butler

Raising the Next Generation with Blessings and Motherhood Apr 05, 2023

Where has the fun gone in parenthood? In this special episode, Robert is joined by Delise Germond and Ginny Tran—hosts of the podcast Blessings and Motherhood from Classical Conversations®—to talk about the joys of parenting, the national birth rate decline, the behind-the-scenes of producing the Classical Conversations podcasts, and how to figure out major life decisions with your spouse. After their conversation, Robert provides insight into the recent bank failures and explains the Federal Reserve’s balance sheet. Then, Will concludes the episode by considering how Silicon Valley Bank’s collapse may impact the future of crypto.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/blessings-and-motherhood

Hollywood's National Memory Master Trevor Dolden Mar 29, 2023

Can homeschooling give students the freedom to pursue their passions? In this episode, Robert chats with Classical Conversations® Challenge student and former National Memory Master champion Trevor Dolden about his promising acting career in Los Angeles, California. Since first becoming interested in acting at nine months old, Trevor has gone on to play roles in short films, TV shows, and movies, including Monsters at Large, the Apple TV+ original show Mr. Corman, and the 2021 horror film Not Alone. After participating in his local Classical Conversations Memory Master program no less than seven times, Trevor competed in and won the 2021 National Memory Master competition, taking home the grand prize of $10,000. Here, Trevor shares how homeschooling gives him more time to audition and prep for roles, how his family has supported him along his journey, and advice for upcoming Memory Master participants. After the interview, Robert uses the classical tools of learning to explain the third-largest bank failure in U. S. history, and Will returns to his discussion of whether Ripple’s XRP token ought to be considered a security.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/trevor-dolden

Raising Godly Boys with Mark Hancock Mar 22, 2023

Just let boys be boys! In this episode, Robert talks with Mark Hancock, CEO of Trail Life USA. Trail Life is a Christ-centered, outdoor adventure program that teaches young men biblical values and outdoor skills through character and leadership development. Here, Mark describes how Trail Life stands out among other outdoor adventure programs by being Christ-focused, the three things boys need to give them a sense of fulfillment in life, and how dads’ relationships with their sons have been strengthened through participating in Trail Life troops. After his conversation with Mark, Robert takes a sobering look at the increase in suicidal thoughts among teen girls and, in the “Classical Crypto” segment, provides an overview of the token ATOM by Cosmos.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/mark-hancock

Relational Intelligence God's Way with Ken Sande Mar 15, 2023

How can we improve our ability to anticipate and resolve relational conflicts? In episode 37, Robert speaks with Ken Sande, the founder of Peacemaker Ministries and Relational Wisdom 360 (RW360). Over the course of his career as a lawyer and professional mediator, Ken has mediated hundreds of conflicts in familial, business, church, and legal settings. Classical Conversations® Challenge B families should be especially excited to hear this episode because Ken is also the author of the bestselling book The Peacemaker: A Biblical Guide to Resolving Conflict, a recommended resource for parents of students enrolled in our Challenge B program. Here, Ken discusses ways to improve our relational wisdom and peacemaking skills so that we can better love one another. After the interview, Robert uses the fifteen classical tools to analyze students’ low math and reading proficiencies and then introduces two proposed bills that could ban the U.S. government from creating its own central bank digital currency (CBDC).

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/ken-sande

A Life of Leadership with Dr. Jennifer Murff Mar 08, 2023

Dr. Jennifer Murff’s career is one defined by leadership. In this episode, Robert talks with Jenn about her work as President and CEO of the MENA (Middle East/North Africa) Leadership Center, an organization that equips Christian leaders throughout the MENA region with the skills to share the gospel successfully. Jenn also relates the cultural and religious challenges she and her organization face in the MENA region, how she was drawn to a career in leadership, balancing a full-time career while homeschooling, and the ways she encourages her own children to develop leadership skills. Finally, she shares a story of God’s love and faithfulness as her church and local community supported her through a recent and serious surgery. After the interview, Robert uses the classical tools of learning to analyze the Chinese spy balloon incident, and Will takes a quick look into the SEC’s attack on crypto stablecoins.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/jennifer-murff

What Does It Take to be a Writer? with Jennifer Courtney Mar 01, 2023

Readers and writers—this is a must-listen episode! Robert sits down with Jennifer Courtney, the Global Curriculum Director for Classical Conversations Multi-Media (CCMM), the publishing company of all Classical Conversations® curriculum. In various roles at CCMM, Jennifer has written a variety of books and resources, including Classical Christian Education Made Approachable, the Essentials Curriculum, Fifth Edition, and many books in the Copper Lodge Library series. Among other points of conversation, Jennifer discusses the challenges of preserving the truth and beauty of work when translating it into another language, what’s involved in the process of writing a new curriculum, writing about classical, Christian homeschooling from a Los Angeles hotel, what makes a book a “classic,” how she discovers new books, and what books she is reading currently. Plus, in the “Current Events Discussion,” Robert discusses ESG investing, and in “Classical Crypto,” Will talks about the emerging cryptocurrency HBAR.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/jennifer-courtney

Homeschooling while Black with Joyce Burges Feb 22, 2023

What challenges do black homeschool families face in America? In this episode, Joyce Burges, CEO and co-founder of the National Black Home Educators (NBHE), joins Robert to discuss how her organization helps to make homeschooling more accessible for black families. Aside from leading NBHE, Joyce is also an experienced homeschool mom of over thirty years, a national speaker and advocate for topics like education and family, and the author of several books including Teach Me How to Teach My Child. In addition to discussing NBHE, Joyce talks about what it was like starting to homeschool over thirty years ago, the upward trend in the number of black homeschool families, her hopes for the future of American education, and how she, as a grandmother, stays involved (but not too involved!) in the education of her grandchildren.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/joyce-burges

A Practical Approach to Classical Thought with Heather Shirley Feb 15, 2023

How do STEM subjects fit into the classical model of education? In this episode, Robert sits down with Heather Shirley to explore how to study math and science classically, how parents can become experts in the classical approach to education, and what resources Heather has found helpful in her own classical education journey. If you’re a Classical Conversations® member, you might know Heather Shirley as our Chief Academic Advisor, although Heather has plenty of firsthand Classical Conversations experience, leading local communities for the Foundations, Essentials, Challenge III, and Challenge IV programs. Although she is passionate about the humanities, Heather originally pursued a career in STEM, receiving a bachelor’s in mathematics and a master’s in computer engineering. If anyone can speak to the topic of studying STEM subjects classically, it’s Heather!

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/heather-shirley

Taking a Classical Approach to Entrepreneurship with Dr. Matthew Smith Feb 08, 2023

What does an entrepreneur have in common with a polymath? In this episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert talks to Dr. Matthew Smith, the founding president of Hildegard College. Hildegard is an all-new Christian college located in southern California that takes a unique approach to the liberal arts, merging the classical, Great Text tradition with entrepreneurship. In this conversation, Matthew speaks to why American higher education needs a reset, why Hildegard’s undergraduate program emphasizes the study of entrepreneurship classically and the unique challenges students today face as opposed to students a decade ago.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/matthew-smith

ESAs: What You Need to Know with Israel Wayne Feb 01, 2023

Should homeschoolers accept government funds to help finance their children’s education? As tempting as it might be to accept one of these stipends, homeschool families need to understand the dangers that lie beneath the surface of these government funds. In this conversation of Refining Rhetoric, Robert Bortins is joined by Israel Wayne, a homeschool dad of eleven children, the director of Family Renewal Ministries, and the author of multiple books, including Education: Does God Have an Opinion? and Answers for Homeschooling: Top 25 Questions Critics Ask. Robert and Israel discuss the origins of the public school system in America, the foundational principles on which this system is built, and ultimately, why we should be concerned about the government funding of private and home schools. If you are a homeschool parent, this episode is a must-listen!

To learn more about government-funded private education, classicalconversations.com/educationalfreedom.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/israel-wayne

Top Episode of 2022 with Leigh Bortins Jan 25, 2023

Listen to Robert’s favorite episode from the first season of Refining Rhetoric—a conversation with the one and only Leigh Bortins, Robert’s mom and the founder of Classical Conversations®. Leigh has written several books, including The Core, The Question, and The Conversation, and is well-known for her ability to demystify the fundamental tools of learning. Since 1984, her efforts have helped launch the “home-centered” education movement. In this rerun of the podcast’s second episode, Robert and Leigh discuss classical education, homeschooling, the origins of Classical Conversations, and the upcoming The Math Map, a brand-new math program for Classical Conversations members.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/top-2022-leigh-bortins

Top 2 of 2022 with Andrew Pudewa Jan 18, 2023

To kick off 2023, we are re-releasing two of our favorite episodes from last year, starting with this conversation with Andrew Pudewa. Andrew is the founder of the Institute for Excellence in Writing (IEW) and is a longtime partner and friend of Classical Conversations®. Speaking around the world, Andrew is known for presenting the skills of writing, teaching, and thinking with clarity and wit. Through IEW seminars and curriculum, he has helped students of all ages become better communicators and critical thinkers. Andrew graduated from the Talent Education Research Institute (known for the Suzuki method) in Matsumoto, Japan, and holds a Certificate of Child Brain Development from the Institutes for the Achievement of Human Potential in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. In this episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert interviews Andrew about his work at IEW, literacy in the United States, how to write with excellence, and Andrew’s secrets for losing weight and staying healthy.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/top-2-2022-andrew-pudewa

Defining Christian Nationalism with Heidi St. John Jan 11, 2023

What’s the biggest obstacle Christian moms face today? In this conversation, Robert talks to Heidi St. John, a prolific speaker and author who encourages Christian moms through her blog, her ministry MomStrong International, and her books, which include Bible Promises for Moms and Becoming MomStrong: How to Fight With All That’s In You For Your Family and Your Faith. Heidi shares her thoughts on going from an accidental homeschooler to an accidental author, why defending objective truth is the greatest challenge moms currently face, the definition of “Christian nationalism,” and how the Republican Party has changed over time. In addition, she discusses whether she will ever run for office again.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/heidi-st-john

The Truth About Money, College, and the Modern Workforce with Will McCreery Jan 04, 2023

Welcome to the first episode of season two! In this episode, Robert chats with Will McCreery, the host of “Classical Crypto,” the podcast segment on Refining Rhetoric that breaks down complex topics in the cryptocurrency space into simple terms using tools from the classical model of education. Will is also a Classical Conversations® Challenge graduate and currently an employee at Classical Conversations, Inc., where he oversees the Odyssey Program, a gap-year opportunity for high school graduates through Classical Conversations Plus. Here, Will talks about being a Classical Conversations student, the CC Plus Program and the Odyssey Program, whether college is still necessary today, and, of course, finance and cryptocurrency.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/will-mccreery

Understanding Common Law with Jeff Shafer Dec 28, 2022

What on earth is common law? In Refining Rhetoric’s last episode of 2022, Robert sits down with Jeff Shafer, the director of the Hale Institute, graduate of Regent University School of Law, former legal practitioner, and former senior counsel of Alliance Defending Freedom, to discuss the concept of common law and its relevance in recent Supreme Court decisions, including Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization. In the “Current Events Discussion,” Robert asks, “Should the Department of Education exist?” using the classical tools of learning to break down this topic. Finally, Will McCreery briefly looks at where the NFT market stands now, pointing out several practical use cases for NFTs in the “Classical Crypto” segment.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/jeff-shafer

Creating a Video Game with Challenge Student Elijah Whitbeck Dec 14, 2022

Now, more than ever before, knowing how to code is an incredibly valuable skill in the job market. In this episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert welcomes Classical Conversations® Challenge student and self-taught computer programmer Elijah Whitbeck to the show. Elijah relates his coding journey from developing his first video game to recently launching his first mobile app and starting his own company, PIRUX Games. Elijah offers valuable tips and advice for homeschool parents looking to teach their children to code and, intriguingly, discusses the similarities between Latin and code. Tune in to this first-ever episode of Refining Rhetoric with a current homeschool student as the guest!

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/elijah-whitbeck

Why a Homeschool Mom Ran for Senate with Regina Piazza Nov 30, 2022

Regina Piazza has done it all, from serving in the U.S. Air Force and starting a business to homeschooling her children and running for the Florida State Senate District 2 seat. In this episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert Bortins and Regina discuss her recent run for office, her experience working as a Classical Conversations® Support Representative, and how she prioritizes her Christian and conservative values.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/regina-piazza

The Purpose of Education with Eliot Grasso Nov 16, 2022

Imagine the small community setting, thoughtful discussions with peers, and classical curriculum of Classical Conversations®, but at a college level! In this episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert speaks to Eliot Grasso, vice president and a tutor at Gutenberg College. Gutenberg takes a classical, Christian approach to a four-year higher education while limiting its incoming freshman class to just twenty students. This fosters a family-like community where students learn and live together while exploring and debating big ideas through Gutenberg’s Great Books program. Here, Robert and Eliot talk about the importance of a multidisciplinary education, the unique Gutenberg experience, and, surprisingly, what in the world an uilleann pipe is.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/eliot-grasso

Reclaiming Our American Heritage with Andrew McIndoe Nov 02, 2022

Can everyday homeschool parents and students make a political difference on a national scale? In this episode, Robert sits down with Andrew McIndoe, the vice president of development for the Heritage Foundation, an organization based in Washington, DC, whose mission is to help build an America where freedom, opportunity, prosperity, and civil society flourish. Robert and Andrew discuss which issues (including inflation) that the Heritage Foundation proposes solutions to, what political opportunities exist for homeschool families, and how homeschooling prepares students for college, careers, and life altogether.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/andrew-mcindoe

A Classical Guide to Voting Oct 26, 2022

As voting season approaches, it’s easy to fall into the trap of thinking our individual voices won’t make a difference. In this special mini-episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert Bortins argues against this and other reasons people give for choosing not to vote. In addition, he provides resource recommendations for those interested in learning more about how they can make an impact through voting. Your voice matters; get out there and vote! Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/voting

Fearless Faith with Allie Beth Stuckey Oct 19, 2022

In this conversation, Robert and Allie Beth Stuckey discuss how to build a biblical worldview, respond to opposing opinions, and help our children navigate modern culture. Allie is an author, podcaster, commentator, speaker, wife, and mom who is on a mission to help others build their worldview upon the truth of God’s Word. In 2020, she released her first book You're Not Enough (And That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love, in which she dispels modern cultural myths from a biblical worldview. Allie is also the host of the popular podcast Relatable on BlazeTV, where she analyzes culture, news, politics, and theology from a Christian perspective. Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/allie-beth-stuckey

From Hollywood to Homeschooling with Sam Sorbo Oct 05, 2022

Sam Sorbo is an award-winning actress, model, author, and speaker, as well as the podcast host of The Sam Sorbo Show. She’s also a homeschool mom and Classical Conversations® member. She’s acted in TV shows such as Hercules: The Legendary Journeys and movies like Let There Be Light and Miracle in East Texas. As a homeschool and Christian education activist, Sam has written several books, including They’re Your Kids: An Inspirational Journey from Self-Doubter to Home School Advocate and Teach from Love: A School Year Devotional for Families. In this episode, Sam discusses being a Christian in Hollywood, challenges she’s faced as a homeschool mom, and her latest book, Words for Warriors.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/sam-sorbo

Real Stats on Real Homeschoolers with Dr. Brian Ray Sep 21, 2022

Dr. Brian Ray is the president of the National Home Education Research Institute (NHERI) and a leader in homeschooling research. The NHERI specializes in conducting and collecting research about homeschooling and publishes the research journal, the Home School Researcher. Dr. Ray is an author, speaker, and veteran homeschool father of eight children. He received his PhD in science education from Oregon State University and his master of science in zoology in zoology from Ohio University. In this episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert and Dr. Ray discuss his research at the NHERI, including the history of home education, the reasons families homeschool, how COVID has impacted homeschooling, and the future of the homeschool movement.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/brian-ray

How to Make a Comeback from Being Canceled with Andrew Crapuchettes Sep 07, 2022

Ever wonder what it’s like to be “canceled?” Andrew Crapuchettes is the visionary behind RedBalloon, an organization that attempts to solve the cancel culture movement in the American workplace by connecting like-minded employers with employees seeking jobs where their religious and personal beliefs are accepted. Andrew was also the CEO of Emsi, an international economic data firm with hundreds of employees worldwide. In this episode, Andrew discusses his successful career, advice for aspiring leaders, and being a Christian in the workplace.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/andrew-crapuchettes

Behind the Scenes of Congress with Dan Bishop Aug 24, 2022

After practicing law in the private sector, Dan has gone on to serve on the Mecklenburg County Commission in North Carolina, the North Carolina House of Representatives, and the North Carolina Senate. Since 2019, Dan has represented North Carolina’s ninth district in the U.S. House of Representatives, where he is a member of the Homeland Security and Judiciary Committees. Currently, he is running for reelection as a representative. In this episode, Robert and Dan discuss Dan’s career in politics, bills he has sponsored, the House Freedom Caucus, and important issues our country faces like high taxation and gun control.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/dan-bishop

Educational Choice vs. School Choice with E. Ray Moore Aug 10, 2022

E. Ray Moore is the founder and director of the Exodus Mandate Project, chairman of the Christian Education Initiative, chairman of the movement Public School Exit, and president of the board at Frontline Ministries. In addition to serving in pastoral ministry for over forty years, Ray is a proactive advocate for school choice, the author of two books (including Let My Children Go), and the executive producer of two films (including the award-winning 2011 film IndoctriNation). In this episode, Robert and Ray talk about educational freedom versus school choice and the future of education in the United States.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/ray-moore

Christianity Is a Reasonable Faith with Neil Shenvi Jul 28, 2022

Dr. Neil Shenvi is the author of Why Believe? A Reasoned Approach to Christianity. After receiving his PhD in Theoretical Chemistry from the University of California, Berkeley, Neil has gone on to research nonadiabatic dynamics, electronic structure theory, and electron transfer while in positions at Yale and Duke. In addition to his scientific research, Neil speaks and writes about critical race theory and Christian apologetics. In 2015, he began homeschooling his family with Classical Conversations and now serves as a Tutor at his local Classical Conversations community. In this episode, Robert and Neil discuss homeschooling as a dad, critical race theory, and how to reconcile faith and science.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/neil-shenvi

How to Balance Working Full-Time and Homeschooling with Randan Steinhauser Jul 13, 2022

Randan Steinhauser is a homeschool mom and the founding partner of Steinhauser Strategies, which specializes in creating public relations campaigns, influencing public policy debates, and building innovative digital movements. Randan is an expert in her field, having worked in more than thirty states on issue advocacy, political campaigns, client media relations, coalition development, strategic communications, and government affairs. She homeschools her four children with Classical Conversations®, participating in a local community in Austin, Texas. In this episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert interviews Randan about her career, homeschooling, and school choice.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/randan-steinhauser

Confessions of a CEO's Wife with April Bortins Jun 29, 2022

April Bortins is a homeschool mom and the wife of Robert Bortins. Together, April and Robert homeschool their three children with Classical Conversations®. Before teaching her own children, April worked as a public-school teacher and head coach for both track and field and cross country. In this special episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert and April chat about her background, her homeschooling journey so far, and how she integrates faith into teaching her children. They also talk about how she felt joining the Bortins family and what daily life looks like in the Bortins household.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/april-bortins

Andrew Pudewa's Weight Loss Secrets and More Jun 15, 2022

Andrew Pudewa is the founder of the Institute for Excellence in Writing (IEW) and is a longtime partner and friend of Classical Conversations®. Speaking around the world, Andrew is known for presenting the skills of writing, teaching, and thinking with clarity and wit. Through IEW seminars and curriculum, he has helped students of all ages become better communicators and critical thinkers. Andrew graduated from the Talent Education Research Institute (known for the Suzuki method) in Matsumoto, Japan, and holds a Certificate of Child Brain Development from the Institutes for the Achievement of Human Potential in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. In this episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert interviews Andrew about his work at IEW, literacy in the United States, and how to write with excellence.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/andrew-pudewa

From Tears to Triumphs | Educating Through the Everyday with Lisa Bailey Jun 01, 2022

Lisa Bailey is the host of Everyday Educator, a long-running Classical Conversations podcast, and is also the Lead Curriculum Developer for the Global Curriculum team of our publishing company, Classical Conversations MultiMedia (CCMM). Since joining the Classical Conversations family in 2004 as a Challenge B Director, Lisa has graduated two daughters out of the Challenge program and has served in various roles within the company. In this episode, Robert and Lisa discuss her homeschooling journey from why she first chose to homeschool to the importance of committing long-term to the homeschool process.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/lisa-bailey

Critical Race Theory vs Christian Unity with Dr. Carol Swain May 18, 2022

Dr. Carol Swain is a distinguished political scientist, a former tenured professor at both Princeton University and Vanderbilt University, and late Vice Chair of President Donald Trump’s 1776 Commission. Dr. Swain is the author of several books, including the bestseller Black Eye for America: How Critical Race Theory Is Burning Down the House. In this episode, Robert and Dr. Swain delve into a controversial subject in modern Western culture: critical race theory. Together, they explore how Christians ought to respond.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/carol-swain

Special Episode! Overturning Roe v Wade? with Michael Farris May 11, 2022

In this episode, Robert and Michael P. Farris discuss basic human rights, educational choice, and the possible overturn of Roe v. Wade. Michael is the founding president of both Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) and Patrick Henry College. Today, he serves as chairman of the board of HSLDA, chancellor emeritus of Patrick Henry, and the president and CEO of Alliance Defending Freedom. Throughout his career, Michael has defended human rights for freedom of religion and speech, promoted educational choice, and fought for the sanctity of human life.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/michael-farris

Words of Wisdom from a Homeschool Dad with Mike Donnelly May 04, 2022

Mike Donnelly is HSLDA’s Director of Global Outreach and Senior Counsel to members in seven states. He is also an adjunct professor at Patrick Henry College, teaching constitutional law, and a published author and notable speaker, defending homeschooling and educational choice. In this episode, Robert and Mike discuss the mission, origins, and future of HSLDA, what’s changing in the homeschool movement around the world, and how to stay involved in your child’s education as a homeschool father.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/mike-donnelly

The Homeschool Revolution with Yvette Hampton Apr 20, 2022

Yvette Hampton is the producer and host of the 2021 documentary Schoolhouse Rocked: The Homeschool Revolution. During production, Yvette and her family traveled around the country to speak with education experts and homeschool families about their thoughts on the increasing interest in homeschooling in the United States. In this conversation, Robert asks Yvette about her motivation for creating Schoolhouse Rocked and what lessons she learned along the way.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/yvette-hampton

Fun, The Key to Flourishing | With Al Lopus Apr 06, 2022

Al Lopus is the CEO and co-founder of Best Christian Workplaces Institute, an organization founded in 2002 dedicated to helping Christian-led workplaces set the standard as the best, most effective places to work in the world. Al is a recognized author, speaker, and consultant for helping Christian leaders and organizations thrive. In this conversation, Robert and Al discuss the Christian’s relationship with work and the criteria for a flourishing workplace.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/al-lopus

Becoming the Second Most Important Person with Lisa McLeod Mar 23, 2022

Lisa McLeod is the bestselling author of Selling with Noble Purpose: How to Drive Revenue and Do Work That Makes You Proud. Lisa is a global expert on purpose-driven business and has spent two decades helping leaders increase competitive differentiation and emotional engagement. In this episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert Bortins interviews Lisa about her Noble Purpose philosophy, which is based on research revealing that salespeople with a purpose-driven mission tend to outsell those who only focus on targets and quotas.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/lisa-mcleod

Blazing the Trail for Home Education with Leigh Bortins Mar 09, 2022

In the second episode of Refining Rhetoric, Robert Bortins speaks with Leigh Bortins, his mom and founder of Classical Conversations. Leigh has written several books, including The Core, The Question, and The Conversation, and is well known for her ability to demystify the fundamental tools of learning. Since 1984, her efforts have helped launch the “home-centered” education movement. Robert and Leigh discuss classical education, homeschooling, the origins of Classical Conversations, and the upcoming Math Map, a brand-new math program for Classical Conversations members.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/leigh-bortins

Exploring Business as a Ministry with Mike Sharrow Mar 09, 2022

In this episode, Robert Bortins interviews Mike Sharrow, president and CEO of the C12 Group. C12 is a national platform where thousands of Christian CEOs and business owners learn and pursue building “great businesses for a greater purpose” together. In this conversation, Robert and Mike discuss #BaaM (Business as a Ministry) and what it means to be a Christian in business.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/mike-sharrow

From Sleeping in Closets to CEO | My Journey with Classical Conversations Mar 09, 2022

In this first episode of Refining Rhetoric with Robert Bortins, host Robert Bortins discusses his background and what listeners can expect from future episodes of the show. Using the 15 tools of classical learning, Robert shares how he built a strong resume in high school with professional work experience, paid for college by himself while sleeping in friends' closets, worked in manufacturing for five years, and finally became CEO of Classical Conversations, the world's largest homeschooling support organization.

Show notes: refiningrhetoric.com/robert-bortins

Refining Rhetoric with Robert Bortins Trailer Feb 18, 2022

Classical Conversations Studios presents Refining Rhetoric with Robert Bortins, a podcast where faith, business, politics, and classical education meet. Join Robert Bortins, CEO of Classical Conversations, and use the classical tools of learning to seek truth in every arena of life. New episodes released every other week.

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