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    True Crime

    Real Life Real Crime

    Twisted, gruesome, sometimes funny, but always true: Real Life Real Crime is a multi-award-winning weekly true crime podcast hosted by Woody Overton. Known for his appearances on Dateline, Woody takes listeners on deep dives into cases he has personally worked, offering a unique and exclusive perspective that only he can share. His extensive knowledge from real cases, along with his captivating storytelling ability, has led to what the news media and loyal fans describe as a “cult following.”

    In addition to “Real Life Real Crime,” Woody is dedicated to solving cold cases and actively works with families seeking justice and closure. His commitment to these efforts is reflected in his development of new projects, including "#JusticeFor", highlighting the importance of advocacy in the true crime community, and dives into intense tales in “Scorched,” which examines cases of severe miscarriages of justice while offering insights into the complexities of the legal system. In addition Woody hosts “True Crime Time For,” which is co-hosted by his wife, Cyndi Overton. Together, they explore intriguing stories, bringing their unique dynamic to the table. Join Woody and Cyndi on this riveting journey as they uncover the truth behind real-life crime.

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    True Crime Time For September 4, 2026 | The Missoula Mauler: The Couple Who Fought Back & Exposed a Suspected Serial Killer Sep 04, 2026
    Show notes

    On today’s episode of True Crime Time For, Cyndi takes over the microphone and begins with a message for the families who continue sending Real Life Real Crime information about unsolved cases.

    There are more families asking for help than there are hours in the day. Cyndi explains that Woody is the investigator while she serves as the keeper and organizer of much of the information coming in. Every family deserves to have its case examined carefully, but meaningful investigative work cannot be rushed. She asks for patience, grace and understanding while Woody works through cases one at a time.

    Then Cyndi gets into On This Day in Crime—and immediately discovers that something isn't right.

    The September 4 entry says Wayne Nathan Nance, better known as the “Missoula Mauler,” died after attacking his boss and his boss’s wife, listed as Doug and Teresa Wells. But a few sentences later, it says Nance was attempting to sexually assault a woman named Chris.

    Cyndi stops.

    Who is Kris?

    That question uncovers a much larger story.

    The original account had accidentally combined two different couples. The couple who survived Wayne Nance’s final attack were Doug and Kris Wells. Teresa Shook was an entirely different woman who, along with her husband Michael “Mike” Shook, had been murdered months earlier.

    And once Cyndi starts separating those two cases, the similarities become chilling.

    Doug and Kris Wells Fight Back

    The story begins on the night of September 3, 1986, in Missoula, Montana.

    Doug and Kris Wells returned home and encountered 30-year-old Wayne Nance outside their property.

    Nance wasn't a stranger. Kris knew him through work. She was a manager at a furniture store where Nance worked as a delivery driver.

    Nance claimed he had noticed someone suspicious around the Wells home. He presented himself not as the threat—but as the person trying to warn them about one.

    Then he attacked.

    Nance struck Doug in the head. When Kris came to investigate, Nance produced a gun and forced her to tie up her husband. He restrained Kris as well and took her upstairs, where he tied her to the bed.

    Nance then brought Doug into the basement, tied him to a support post, beat him and stabbed him in the chest with a large kitchen knife.

    He apparently believed Doug was dying.

    He was wrong.

    Despite being beaten, bound and stabbed, Doug managed to free himself.

    In the basement was a rifle Doug had been working on—and he had one round.

    Instead of quietly escaping, Doug deliberately made enough noise to bring Nance back downstairs.

    Nance came.

    Doug fired.

    Even after being shot, Nance continued fighting. During the struggle, Nance shot Doug in the leg. Kris fought back as well, and eventually Nance was overwhelmed.

    Doug and Kris Wells survived.

    Wayne Nance did not.

    He was transported to the hospital and died from his injuries on September 4, 1986.

    That could have been the end of the story.

    Instead, it became the beginning of an investigation into whether the man Doug Wells had just killed was a serial murderer.

    Donna Pounds — 1974

    Investigators began looking backward.

    One of the earliest cases associated with Nance was the April 1974 murder of Donna Pounds.

    Pounds was attacked inside her Missoula home. She was restrained, sexually assaulted and shot, and an attempt was made to set the home on fire.

    Nance knew the family and was investigated at the time. Authorities reportedly presented the case to a grand jury, but there was insufficient evidence to indict him.

    Nance was only 18.

    Cyndi points out several details worth remembering: a home invasion, restraint, sexual violence, murder and an attempt to use fire afterward.

    Those behaviors would become important years later.

    Devonna Louise Nelson — “Betty Beavertail”

    In 1980, the remains of a teenage girl were discovered east of Missoula.

    Investigators didn't know who she was.

    For years, she was known by a name that wasn't hers: “Betty Beavertail.”

    She was eventually identified as 15-year-old Devonna Louise Nelson.

    Nance became a possible suspect in her death, but this is one place where Cyndi makes an important distinction: investigators have not definitively established that Wayne Nance murdered Devonna.

    Her murder remains unsolved.

    Marcella Cheri “Marci” Bachmann — “Debbie Deer Creek”

    The connection becomes considerably stronger with Marcella Cheri “Marci” Bachmann, a 16-year-old runaway from Oregon.

    Marci reportedly used the name Robin while away from home and crossed paths with Wayne Nance.

    In December 1984, her remains were discovered in a shallow grave near Missoula. Investigators couldn't identify her, so she became another Jane Doe with a geographic nickname:

    “Debbie Deer Creek.”

    After Nance's death, investigators found evidence showing that Marci had actually known him—including photographs of the two together. Evidence recovered from Nance further strengthened the connection between them.

    Marci was finally identified in 2006.

    Janet Lee Lucas — “Christy Crystal Creek”

    Then there was another unidentified woman.

    In September 1985, skeletal remains were discovered near Crystal Creek outside Missoula. The woman had been shot twice in the head.

    Again, investigators didn't know her name.

    She became “Christy Crystal Creek.”

    More than 35 years later, investigative genetic genealogy finally restored her identity:

    Janet Lee Lucas, 23.

    Janet had a five-year-old son when she disappeared. Her family spent decades without knowing what had happened to her.

    Nance has been investigated as a possible suspect, particularly because Janet's remains were discovered in the same general area as Marci Bachmann's.

    But again, Cyndi is careful not to turn suspicion into fact.

    Authorities have not established that Nance murdered Janet Lucas. Her case remains a cold-case homicide investigation.

    Michael and Teresa Shook

    Then comes the case that explains why Teresa accidentally ended up attached to the Wells name in the original calendar entry.

    Teresa was Teresa Shook.

    She and her husband, Michael “Mike” Shook, were murdered in their home outside Missoula in December 1985.

    The couple were restrained. Teresa was sexually assaulted. Both were killed, and the house was set on fire while their children were still inside.

    The children survived.

    And suddenly the similarities to Donna Pounds were impossible to ignore.

    Donna had been attacked inside her home.

    She had been restrained.

    She had been sexually assaulted.

    She had been shot.

    Someone had attempted to use fire afterward.

    Then Mike and Teresa Shook were attacked in their home, restrained and murdered before their killer set the house on fire.

    Nine months later, Nance entered Doug and Kris Wells' home, restrained the couple, separated them and tried to kill Doug.

    But this time, the husband survived.

    And after Nance died, investigators discovered something far more concrete:

    Property belonging to the murdered Shooks was found among Nance's possessions.

    That evidence transformed the investigation.

    This wasn't simply a crime that resembled something Wayne Nance might have done. Property belonging to murder victims had ended up in his possession.

    Reconstructing the Life of a Dead Suspected Serial Killer

    Investigators were now faced with an unusual problem.

    Their suspect was dead.

    They couldn't interrogate Nance.

    They couldn't confront him with evidence.

    They couldn't ask where he had been when these women disappeared.

    And they could never put him before a jury and have his guilt or innocence determined in court.

    Instead, detectives had to reconstruct his life backward.

    What emerged was a disturbing collection of cases with very different levels of evidence.

    Some had strong physical or circumstantial connections to Nance.

    Others remained cases in which he was merely a suspect.

    And that distinction matters.

    Once someone earns the label “serial killer,” it can become tempting to attach every unsolved murder in the same area to that person. Cyndi deliberately avoids doing that.

    What can be said with certainty is that on September 3, 1986, Wayne Nance entered the home of Doug and Kris Wells and attempted to kill them.

    Doug Wells fought back.

    And on September 4, 1986, Wayne Nathan Nance died.

    Nance was never tried or convicted of the murders later associated with him. Yet evidence discovered after his death led investigators to believe the attack on the Wells family was not an isolated act and to examine him in connection with multiple killings around Missoula.

    For the families of Donna Pounds, Devonna Nelson, Marci Bachmann, Janet Lucas, Michael Shook and Teresa Shook, many questions outlived Wayne Nance.

    And the entire story started because Cyndi noticed one little inconsistency:

    Who the hell is Chris?


    True Crime Time For, Real Life Real Crime, Cyndi Overton, Woody Overton, Wayne Nance, Wayne Nathan Nance, Missoula Mauler, Missoula Montana, Doug Wells, Kris Wells, Donna Pounds, Devonna Louise Nelson, Betty Beavertail, Marcella Cheri Bachmann, Marci Bachmann, Debbie Deer Creek, Janet Lee Lucas, Christy Crystal Creek, Michael Shook, Mike Shook, Teresa Shook, Montana serial killer, suspected serial killer, cold case, unidentified victims, Jane Doe, investigative genetic genealogy, DNA identification, home invasion, true crime podcast

    • Wayne Nathan Nance
    • Missoula Mauler
    • Doug and Kris Wells
    • Wells home invasion
    • Doug Wells fighting back
    • Donna Pounds murder
    • Devonna Louise Nelson
    • “Betty Beavertail”
    • Marcella “Marci” Bachmann
    • “Debbie Deer Creek”
    • Janet Lee Lucas
    • “Christy Crystal Creek”
    • Michael and Teresa Shook
    • Shook family murders
    • Evidence found in Nance's possession
    • Unidentified murder victims
    • DNA identification
    • Investigative genetic genealogy
    • Suspected versus confirmed victims
    • Unsolved Montana murders
    • The original September 4 calendar entry combined two different couples. Nance's surviving victims were Doug and Kris Wells; Teresa was Teresa Shook, who was murdered with her husband Michael months earlier.
    • Doug Wells' actions stopped the attack. After being beaten, bound and stabbed, he freed himself, reached a rifle with one available round and confronted Nance. Doug and Kris survived; Nance died the following day.
    • Not every murder associated with Wayne Nance should be described as a confirmed Nance murder. Devonna Nelson and Janet Lucas are among the cases in which authorities investigated him as a possible suspect without definitively establishing that he killed them.
    • The Shook case provided a much stronger connection. Property belonging to Michael and Teresa Shook was discovered among Nance's possessions after his death.
    • Modern DNA and genetic genealogy gave identities back to women who spent years known only as Betty Beavertail, Debbie Deer Creek and Christy Crystal Creek.
    • And this episode demonstrates exactly why stopping when something doesn't make sense matters: one wrong first name was the clue that two completely different crimes had been blended together.




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    True Crime Time For September 3, 2026 | Ohio Serial Killer, $24 Million Postal Scheme & Deadly School Sword Attack Sep 03, 2026
    Show notes

    On today’s episode of True Crime Time For, Woody opens by thanking the Lifers for listening and sharing and reminds everyone that tips can still be called into 313-RLRC-TIP on any case he has worked. He explains that when a specific tip comes in on an active investigation he cannot personally act on, he forwards it to the people currently working the case—and every credible lead has to be run down. Meanwhile, families and investigators continue waiting for answers and justice.

    Larry Ralston and the Disappearance of Linda Kay Harmon

    For On This Day in Crime, Woody goes back to September 3, 1975, when 17-year-old Linda Kay Harmon disappeared in Ohio while on her way to school.

    Harmon failed to meet a friend and later missed a dental appointment, alarming her parents. About a month later, her skeletal remains were discovered scattered across an area along Braun Road. Her murder would eventually become part of a series connected to Larry Ralston, an Ohio serial killer and rapist.

    Ralston’s known victims included Harmon as well as Nancy Grigsby, Mary Ruth Hopkins, Elaina Bear, and Diane Sue McCrobie. Historical court records confirm Ralston confessed to the strangulation murder of 15-year-old Elaina Bear, whose body was discovered in a creek bed after she disappeared in January 1977.

    Woody walks through the disappearances and murders of the young women, including 22-year-old Nancy Grigsby, 15-year-old Elaina Bear and 16-year-old Diane Sue McCrobie.

    The break in the investigation came after three teenage girls reported that a man had abducted and raped them in September 1977. Ralston was arrested later that year, and investigators began connecting him to the murders.

    He was convicted of Elaina Bear’s murder in 1978 and initially sentenced to death. That sentence was later converted to life imprisonment following changes to Ohio’s death-penalty law. Additional murder convictions and rape sentences followed. He later pleaded guilty to the 1976 murder of Mary Ruth Hopkins.

    Woody is particularly frustrated by the fact that Ralston eventually became eligible for parole despite multiple murder convictions. His bids for release have repeatedly been opposed by victims’ families and denied.

    The larger question hanging over the story is whether Ralston may have been responsible for additional unsolved murders in the Cincinnati area during that period. Woody believes investigators knew of far fewer victims than Ralston actually had—but that remains speculation, not an established victim count.

    F’d Up Professionals: A Nearly $24 Million Postal Check-Theft Scheme

    Next, Woody heads to Houston for an F’d Up Professionals story involving people entrusted with something millions of Americans use every day: the U.S. mail.

    Federal prosecutors have charged five Houston-area defendants in a conspiracy involving approximately $24 million in stolen checks.

    The indictment names Tryston Tremaine Vaughn, Catherine Clauzelle Kilpatrick, Drakkor Jamar Alexander, Malcolm Tiree Joubert, and Alyssa Nadine Bryant. Kilpatrick, Alexander and Joubert worked as U.S. Postal Service mail carriers.

    Prosecutors allege Vaughn recruited postal workers to remove checks from mail along their routes. Those stolen checks were then allegedly offered to buyers through Telegram and shipped to purchasers.

    According to the Justice Department, the scheme involved approximately $24 million worth of checks. Individual stolen checks allegedly included amounts in the tens of thousands of dollars, while one was valued at approximately $1.5 million.

    Woody talks about the unusual authority of U.S. Postal Inspectors and the federal nature of crimes involving the mail before marveling at the size of the alleged scheme.

    He also makes the obvious point: a million-dollar check is one piece of mail you probably want to keep very close tabs on.

    All five defendants are accused at this stage, and the charges have not been proven in court.

    Two Women Suffer Broken Jaws During Argument Over a Dog

    Then Woody stays in Ohio for an assault case involving Antoine James, 38.

    According to court records, an argument began over James’ dog allegedly being sold without his permission. Prosecutors say James punched one woman repeatedly and then attacked a second woman when she attempted to intervene.

    Both women reportedly suffered fractured jaws.

    James faces charges including felonious assault, assault and aggravated menacing.

    Woody uses the case to talk about something his own father taught him from childhood: anger does not justify putting your hands on a woman.

    Worldwide Crime: Deadly Sword Attack at a Swedish School

    For Worldwide Crime, Woody heads to Fagersta, Sweden, where a sword attack at Brinell School left a 17-year-old girl dead and three boys injured.

    The alleged attacker has since been publicly identified as 18-year-old Liam Nebel. Current Swedish reporting says Nebel was a student at the school. He is accused of attacking students with a sword before police confronted and arrested him.

    Two teenage boys suffered serious injuries, while another injured student was treated and released. Police were also investigating online material potentially connected to the attack.

    Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson visited Fagersta following the attack and joined the country in mourning the victim and supporting the injured students, their families, and school staff.

    Woody’s point is that horrific mass violence does not require a firearm. In this case, the accused attacker allegedly walked into a school armed with a sword.

    F’d Up Professionals: Aiken High School Assistant Principal Arrested

    Back in Cincinnati, Steven Barton, a 43-year-old assistant principal at Aiken New Tech High School, has been charged with felony sexual battery involving a 16-year-old student.

    The criminal complaint alleges Barton sexually touched the student in a confined area of the school. Investigators say surveillance video and statements made during the investigation corroborated portions of the student’s account.

    Police are also investigating whether there could be additional victims. Barton pleaded not guilty and received a $75,000 bond. Cincinnati Public Schools removed him from duty while the criminal and district investigations continue.

    Woody focuses on the position of trust involved. Teachers, administrators, coaches, clergy, doctors, police officers and others who have authority over children have a heightened responsibility to protect them—not exploit that access.

    Louisiana Sued Again Over Keeping People Locked Up Past Release Dates

    The final story hits much closer to home.

    A new federal lawsuit accuses the Louisiana Department of Public Safety and Corrections of continuing to hold people in custody after their lawful release dates.

    The lawsuit, filed by attorneys with the Promise of Justice Initiative, names Louisiana corrections secretary Gary Westcott among the defendants and alleges that more than 1,200 people were unlawfully overdetained during the period covered by the complaint.

    This is not a brand-new concern. Previous federal findings and litigation have documented Louisiana’s long-running problems calculating and implementing release dates.

    And on this issue, Woody is unequivocal.

    A person may have committed a crime. They may have deserved the sentence they received. But once that lawful sentence is finished, the government does not get to invent additional days in prison.

    If a judge says a person’s sentence ends on a certain date, Woody says the state’s job should be to have that person ready to walk out on that date—not days, weeks or months later because of paperwork or administrative failures.

    He closes by acknowledging that America’s justice system is imperfect while maintaining that accountability must apply in every direction—including to the government itself.

    Woody signs off as host of True Crime Time For Thursday, September 3, 2026.

    True Crime Time For, Real Life Real Crime, Woody Overton, Larry Ralston, Linda Kay Harmon, Nancy Grigsby, Mary Ruth Hopkins, Elaina Bear, Diane Sue McCrobie, Ohio serial killer, Cincinnati murders, Tryston Tremaine Vaughn, Catherine Clauzelle Kilpatrick, Drakkor Jamar Alexander, Malcolm Tiree Joubert, Alyssa Nadine Bryant, USPS, postal worker fraud, stolen checks, mail theft, Houston crime, Antoine James, Fagersta Sweden, Brinell School, Liam Nebel, Sweden sword attack, Steven Barton, Aiken High School, sexual battery, Gary Westcott, Louisiana Department of Corrections, Promise of Justice Initiative, overdetention, true crime podcast

    • Larry Ralston
    • Linda Kay Harmon
    • Nancy Grigsby
    • Mary Ruth Hopkins
    • Elaina Bear
    • Diane Sue McCrobie
    • Ohio serial murders
    • Parole for violent offenders
    • Houston postal workers
    • Nearly $24 million stolen-check scheme
    • Tryston Tremaine Vaughn
    • Catherine Clauzelle Kilpatrick
    • Drakkor Jamar Alexander
    • Malcolm Tiree Joubert
    • Alyssa Nadine Bryant
    • Antoine James
    • Fagersta school attack
    • Liam Nebel
    • Brinell School
    • Steven Barton
    • Aiken New Tech High School
    • Abuse of positions of trust
    • Louisiana overdetention lawsuit
    • Gary Westcott
    • Prison release dates
    • Larry Ralston was convicted in a series of murders and sexual assaults involving young women in Ohio, and families have continued fighting against his release decades later.
    • The Houston mail case is even larger than the transcript’s shorthand suggests: the Justice Department says the indictment involves approximately $24 million in stolen checks, with three USPS carriers among the five defendants.
    • The accused Swedish school attacker now has a publicly reported name: Liam Nebel. A 17-year-old girl was killed and three boys were wounded in the August 21 sword attack at Brinell School.
    • Steven Barton is the correct name of the Aiken assistant principal charged with sexual battery involving a student; “Kyle Stephen Barton” in the transcript was a transcription error.
    • Woody’s position on Louisiana’s overdetention problem cuts across the usual tough-on-crime debate: serve the sentence the court imposed—no less, but also no more.
    • The episode begins and ends with the same principle that applies to RLRC’s own ongoing cases: credible information has to be investigated carefully, even when waiting for the result is frustrating.



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    True Crime Time For September 2, 2026 | Charlie Brandt’s Hidden Victims, History’s Deadliest Serial Killers & DNA Gives Victims Their Names Back Sep 02, 2026
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    On today’s episode of True Crime Time For, Woody takes listeners through the disturbing story of Carl Eric “Charlie” Brandt, a killer whose known crimes began when he was only 13 years old—and whose true number of victims may never be known.

    Woody opens by briefly mentioning the ongoing Lindsay Clancy trial before turning to Brandt, who was born in 1957. In January 1971, 13-year-old Brandt entered a bathroom in his family’s Fort Wayne, Indiana, home and shot his parents with his father’s handgun. His pregnant mother was killed, his father survived, and Brandt then attempted to shoot his older sister before the weapon malfunctioned.

    Brandt underwent psychiatric evaluations and spent approximately a year in a psychiatric hospital. He was eventually released back to his family and was never criminally prosecuted for killing his mother. Even more remarkably, Woody explains that Brandt’s younger sisters grew up believing their mother had died in a car accident.

    As an adult, Brandt eventually married Teri Helfrich Brandt and settled in Florida. But after his death, investigators would uncover an obsession with human anatomy, surgical imagery, violent material, and female mutilation—evidence that caused detectives to wonder how many women Brandt may actually have killed.

    One murder became especially important: Sherry Perisho.

    In July 1989, the 38-year-old woman was found near Big Pine Key, Florida. Her throat had been severely cut, her body mutilated, and her heart removed. Her remains were discovered less than 1,000 feet from Brandt’s home. According to the case history Woody discusses, Teri later recalled Brandt returning home around the time of Perisho’s murder with blood on his clothing, which he reportedly attributed to cleaning fish. Investigators eventually concluded that Brandt was responsible for Perisho’s murder.

    Then came September 2004.

    Brandt and Teri evacuated their Florida Keys home ahead of Hurricane Ivan and stayed with their niece, Michelle Lynn Jones, near Orlando. Days later, a friend checking on Jones discovered Brandt dead by suicide in the garage.

    Inside the house, investigators found Teri and Michelle murdered. Teri had been stabbed repeatedly. Michelle had been decapitated and disemboweled, with her heart and other organs removed.

    The nature of Michelle’s mutilation immediately raised a frightening question for investigators:

    Was this really the first time Charlie Brandt had done something like this?

    A search of Brandt’s home revealed extensive material involving anatomy, surgery, autopsies, and violent sexual imagery. Detectives began examining cold cases in areas where Brandt had lived or traveled.

    Among the cases Woody discusses are Carol Sullivan, a 12-year-old who disappeared from a Florida school-bus stop in 1978 and whose skull was later recovered; Lisa Saunders, 20, who was murdered on Big Pine Key in 1988; and Darlene Toler, 38, whose mutilated body was found near Miami in 1995.

    Investigators considered Brandt in connection with these and other murders, but lacked enough evidence to conclusively attribute them to him.

    Brandt is tied to four known killings, but investigators have long suspected there could be considerably more.

    Woody then expands the discussion to some of history’s most prolific serial killers.

    Luis Garavito — “The Beast”

    First is Colombian serial killer Luis Alfredo Garavito Cubillos, better known as Luis Garavito or La Bestia—“The Beast.”

    Garavito preyed primarily upon vulnerable boys and young men in Colombia and neighboring countries during the 1990s. He was linked to at least 193 murders, although the true number may have been higher.

    Woody discusses the staggering scale of Garavito’s crimes and his disbelief over how a killer responsible for so many children’s deaths could ever have faced the possibility of release.

    Garavito died in prison in October 2023.

    Mariam Soulakiotis — “Mother Rasputin”

    Then Woody heads to Greece for the bizarre story of Mariam Soulakiotis, an abbess sometimes called “Mother Rasputin.”

    Soulakiotis operated an abbey where wealthy women and others seeking religious or medical help allegedly surrendered money and property. She was ultimately convicted of murders and numerous other offenses, while authorities attributed many additional deaths to neglect and deprivation at the monastery.

    The commonly cited figure of 177 victims includes deaths classified as negligent homicides rather than 177 individually proven intentional murders—an important distinction from the way the number comes across in the transcript. Soulakiotis died in prison in 1954.

    Woody uses Brandt, Garavito, and Soulakiotis to discuss a central problem in serial-murder investigations: the number of victims investigators can prove is not necessarily the number of people a killer actually murdered.

    But the episode ends on a far more hopeful note.

    Modern DNA Is Reopening the Past

    Woody celebrates the extraordinary advances in forensic DNA testing and investigative genetic genealogy, which are allowing law enforcement agencies to identify victims and suspects in cases that once appeared impossible to solve.

    And one of his examples is breaking news.

    The final unidentified victim of Keith Hunter Jesperson, the “Happy Face Killer,” has finally gotten her name back.

    She is Lydia Jane Wade McWhorter, a 26-year-old Texas woman whose body was found along Highway 95 near Blythe, California, on August 30, 1992. For decades, investigators knew her only as “Claudia,” the name Jesperson used when discussing her murder.

    The Riverside County District Attorney announced on August 27, 2026, that DNA testing had finally confirmed McWhorter’s identity after investigators located a maternal relative. Her sisters had spent decades not knowing what happened after she disappeared from Texas.

    Jesperson had already confessed to killing her and pleaded guilty to her murder in 2010. What DNA finally accomplished was something equally important:

    It gave Lydia her name back.

    Woody also revisits the 45-year-old murder of Yolanda Herrera, whose case was recently solved through advanced DNA analysis and genetic genealogy. Authorities arrested Kelly Lee Brower Sr., 68, in Arizona after DNA linked him to evidence preserved from Herrera’s 1981 autopsy. Authorities say Brower subsequently confessed.

    Woody gives additional examples of modern forensic science identifying victims and suspects decades after crimes occurred, emphasizing how much investigative technology has changed since the beginning of his own law-enforcement career.

    He closes with one of RLRC’s enduring messages: Never give up. Never surrender.

    For families who have waited years—or decades—for answers, advances in DNA mean a cold case does not necessarily have to remain cold forever. And Woody hints again that movement is coming in cases RLRC itself has been working.

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    • Carl Eric “Charlie” Brandt
    • Murder of Brandt’s pregnant mother
    • Teri Helfrich Brandt
    • Michelle Lynn Jones
    • Sherry Perisho
    • Suspected additional Brandt victims
    • Carol Sullivan
    • Lisa Saunders
    • Darlene Toler
    • Serial-killer victim counts
    • Luis Garavito / La Bestia
    • Mariam Soulakiotis / Mother Rasputin
    • Investigative genetic genealogy
    • Keith Hunter Jesperson
    • Happy Face Killer
    • Lydia Jane Wade McWhorter identification
    • Yolanda Herrera cold case
    • Kelly Lee Brower Sr.
    • Modern DNA technology
    • Cold-case investigations
    • Charlie Brandt almost certainly left investigators with unanswered questions. His known history began with the killing of his mother at 13, while the extreme mutilation in his later crimes led investigators to examine numerous unsolved murders.
    • A serial killer’s confirmed victim count and actual victim count can be very different. That distinction is central to Woody’s discussion of Brandt and other prolific killers.
    • Lydia Jane Wade McWhorter finally has her name back after 34 years. DNA confirmed the identity of the woman investigators had known only as “Claudia,” closing the final unidentified-victim case associated with Keith Hunter Jesperson’s convictions.
    • Yolanda Herrera’s case reinforces the same lesson: evidence preserved in 1981 became powerful enough to identify a murder suspect decades later because forensic science finally caught up with the evidence.
    • Woody ends on the hopeful side of true crime: technology keeps improving, evidence remains evidence, and families who have waited decades can still get answers.



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    True Crime Time For September 1, 2026 | Dating-App Serial Killer, 9/11 Justice Delayed & Murder of a Chicago Mail Carrier Sep 01, 2026
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    On today’s episode of True Crime Time For, Woody welcomes September and looks ahead to Labor Day weekend while hoping the holiday does not bring the violent crime and mass shootings that so often dominate the news. He reminds listeners that those stories will be covered as they develop before getting into the day’s true crime.

    Khalil Wheeler-Weaver and the Murder of Robin West

    For On This Day in Crime, Woody looks back to September 1, 2016, and the murder of 19-year-old Robin West, the first known victim of New Jersey serial killer Khalil Wheeler-Weaver.

    West was seen getting into Wheeler-Weaver’s vehicle on the night of August 31. Prosecutors said Wheeler-Weaver strangled her, left her body inside an abandoned home in Orange, New Jersey, and set the building on fire. Her remains were so badly burned that identification took approximately two weeks.

    Wheeler-Weaver went on to murder Joanne Brown and Sarah Butler and was convicted of kidnapping, sexual assault, and attempted murder in his attack on Tiffany Taylor, who survived. A jury convicted him in 2019, and in 2021 he was sentenced to 160 years in prison, with 145 years required before parole eligibility.

    Woody plays audio from Wheeler-Weaver’s sentencing, where victims’ families pleaded with the judge to show the killer no mercy. Despite his convictions, Wheeler-Weaver continued to maintain his innocence.

    Woody focuses on what that denial means to the families—and to Taylor, who survived his attack and testified against him.

    Nearly 25 Years Later: Where Is Justice for 9/11?

    As the anniversary of the September 11 attacks approaches, Woody turns to something he says remains personally difficult for him to discuss: 9/11.

    The focus is Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the accused mastermind of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, and the extraordinary length of the military-commission proceedings at Guantánamo Bay.

    Woody discusses why the case has dragged on for decades, the complications created by the military-commission system, disputes surrounding statements made during interrogations, previous attempts to reach plea agreements, and the enormous emotional toll the process continues to have on victims’ families.

    His central question is simple: How can a case involving one of the deadliest terrorist attacks in American history remain unresolved nearly a quarter-century later?

    Family Matters: Meeting His Biological Father Ends in Death

    In Family Matters, Woody travels across the pond for the unusual case of Martin Greensmith, who is on trial for manslaughter after an encounter with Stephen Shevels, the man Greensmith had only recently learned was his biological father.

    According to the account presented at trial, Greensmith was at a pub with family when his mother identified Shevels as his father. Greensmith said Shevels had never been part of his life and that he had no desire to establish a relationship with him.

    The two later encountered one another in the pub’s beer garden. Greensmith testified that he felt intimidated when Shevels approached him and claimed he pushed him only to create distance. Shevels fell, struck his head, and later died from the injury.

    Greensmith denies manslaughter and told jurors that he never intended to fight or kill his biological father. The trial was ongoing at the time covered in the episode.

    Who Wanted Chicago Mail Carrier Octavia Redmond Dead?

    Then Woody covers the disturbing murder of Octavia Redmond, a 48-year-old U.S. Postal Service letter carrier, wife, and mother who was gunned down while working her route on Chicago’s South Side in July 2024.

    Redmond was shot multiple times at close range and later died at a hospital.

    The investigation eventually expanded beyond the teenage shooter. Prosecutors allege the killing was planned in advance and that Redmond’s mail route had been watched before her murder. Woody discusses the allegations that the teenage gunman was threatened into carrying out the shooting and the still-lingering question at the center of the case:

    Why was a mail carrier targeted for murder?

    Livingston Parish: A Newborn Killed Minutes After Birth

    Woody ends the episode close to home in Livingston Parish, Louisiana, with an extraordinarily difficult case involving a teenage mother and her newborn baby.

    According to prosecutors, the girl was only 14 when she gave birth to a full-term, living infant inside her bedroom in 2025. Authorities alleged that she then used a sharp object to inflict fatal injuries to the newborn’s neck and concealed the baby’s body inside a tote in the bedroom.

    The state attempted to have the juvenile prosecuted as an adult for first-degree murder, but the transfer was denied because of her age. The teenager was ultimately adjudicated in juvenile court and committed to the custody of Louisiana’s Office of Juvenile Justice until her 21st birthday.

    Woody wrestles with whether that outcome constitutes justice for the newborn while also acknowledging that there may be circumstances involving the young mother’s age, development, or mental condition that are not apparent from the basic facts reported publicly.

    He also focuses on another group profoundly affected by cases like this: the deputies, detectives, medical personnel, and forensic professionals who must recover and examine the body of a murdered newborn.

    Woody closes by telling the Lifers that significant developments are coming in the cases RLRC has been working—particularly What Happened to Madison—and asks listeners for patience: “Just wait.”


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    • Khalil Wheeler-Weaver
    • Robin West murder
    • Joanne Brown
    • Sarah Butler
    • Tiffany Taylor
    • Dating-app serial killer
    • 160-year prison sentence
    • September 11 attacks
    • Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
    • Guantánamo Bay
    • Military commissions
    • 9/11 victims’ families
    • Martin Greensmith
    • Stephen Shevels
    • Manslaughter trial
    • Octavia Redmond
    • Chicago postal worker murder
    • Planned murder allegations
    • Livingston Parish newborn murder
    • Juvenile first-degree murder
    • Louisiana juvenile justice
    • What Happened to Madison
    • Khalil Wheeler-Weaver targeted women he believed were vulnerable, but the evidence—and the determination of victims and their loved ones—ultimately helped put him away for what effectively amounts to life.
    • Robin West was a person, not simply the first name on a serial killer’s victim list. Her murder began a series of killings that eventually resulted in Wheeler-Weaver’s 160-year sentence.
    • The 9/11 military-commission proceedings demonstrate how procedural and constitutional issues can make even an enormously consequential criminal case extraordinarily complicated and prolonged.
    • Octavia Redmond’s murder raises an unanswered question: why was a postal worker allegedly surveilled and targeted in a planned killing?
    • The Livingston Parish case presents an exceptionally difficult collision between the killing of a newborn and a defendant who was herself only 14 years old when the crime occurred.
    • Woody ends September’s first episode with a message for everyone following RLRC’s ongoing investigations: developments are coming, and he will share them when he can.



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    True Crime Time For August 31, 2026 | The Villisca Axe Murders: Eight Dead, a Contaminated Crime Scene & a Mystery That Never Died Aug 31, 2026
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    On today’s episode of True Crime Time For, Woody closes out August with one of the most notorious unsolved mass murders in American history: the Villisca Axe Murders of 1912.

    Before getting into the case, Woody reminds listeners to continue calling in tips at 313-RLRC-TIP on the cases Real Life Real Crime is working. Because the episode was prerecorded, he also says he is still waiting for developments he hopes he may soon be able to share.

    The story begins in Villisca, Iowa, where sometime during the night of June 9 into the early morning of June 10, 1912, eight people were murdered inside the Moore family home.

    The victims were Josiah B. “Joe” Moore, 43; his wife, Sarah Montgomery Moore, 39; and their four children: Herman Moore, 11; Mary Katherine Moore, 10; Boyd Moore, 7; and Paul Moore, 5. Also killed were two sisters spending the night with the Moore children: Lena Gertrude Stillinger, 12, and Ina May Stillinger, 8.

    The previous evening, the Moore family and the Stillinger girls attended a Children’s Day program at the local Presbyterian church. Sarah Moore helped coordinate the event, and the family returned home around 10 p.m. Sometime after midnight, someone entered the house and used an axe to bludgeon all eight victims to death.

    The following morning, neighbor Mary Peckham became concerned when the family failed to begin its usual chores. She contacted Josiah’s brother Ross Moore, who entered the home and discovered the first bodies. Villisca Marshal Henry “Hank” Horton was summoned and found what he later described as someone murdered in every bed.

    The crime scene was horrific and bizarre. Investigators believed the killer may have waited inside or near the house until everyone was asleep. An axe belonging to Josiah Moore was found inside the home. Mirrors were covered, victims’ faces were concealed, food and bloody water were reportedly found in the kitchen, and investigators believed at least one victim may have been awake during the attack.

    But what happened after the bodies were discovered made an already difficult investigation even worse.

    Word of the murders spread rapidly through Villisca, and townspeople began entering the house. Woody describes how the crime scene became hopelessly contaminated as people walked through the rooms, handled items, and even reportedly took pieces of Josiah Moore’s skull as souvenirs. The murder weapon itself was handled by numerous people before authorities gained control of the property.

    The situation became so chaotic that the Iowa National Guard was eventually brought in to establish a perimeter around the Moore home. Historical accounts confirm that National Guard troops were used to secure the scene after crowds overwhelmed local authorities.

    From there, Woody examines the long list of suspects and theories that developed over the following years.

    One of the most prominent was Rev. Lyn George Jacklin Kelly, an English-born traveling minister who had been in Villisca for the Children’s Day services the night of the murders. Kelly drew suspicion because of his fascination with the crime and the detailed letters he later wrote about it. On August 31, 1917, he signed a confession after lengthy interrogation, but later recanted. His first murder trial ended in a hung jury, and he was acquitted at his second trial later that year.

    Woody also explores Frank Fernando Jones, a prominent Villisca businessman and former Iowa state senator. Josiah Moore had once worked for Jones before leaving to establish a competing farm-equipment business. Rumors circulated that Jones may have had a motive to want Moore dead, although no evidence ever proved that theory.

    Private detective James Wilkerson promoted another theory involving William Mansfield, sometimes referred to in historical accounts as “Blackie” Mansfield. Wilkerson alleged that Jones had hired Mansfield to carry out the killings. Mansfield was arrested, but payroll records placed him in Illinois at the time of the murders, and a grand jury declined to indict him. He was eventually released and later successfully sued Wilkerson.

    Other names investigated or discussed over the years included Andrew Sawyer, Henry Lee Moore—a convicted axe murderer who was not related to the Villisca victims—and Samuel Elias Moyer, Josiah Moore’s brother-in-law. None was ever convicted in connection with the murders.

    Woody also discusses a much broader serial-killer theory.

    In the 2017 book The Man from the Train, authors Bill James and Rachel McCarthy James argued that the Villisca murders may have been part of a larger series of similar family axe murders across the United States. Their theory points toward a German immigrant known as Paul Mueller, or Müller, as a possible serial murderer responsible for multiple attacks. It remains a theory rather than a solved identification.

    More than a century later, the Moore home still stands.

    The property has been restored to resemble its 1912 condition and operates today as the Villisca Axe Murder House, offering tours and overnight stays. The current attraction openly embraces the home's reputation for alleged paranormal activity.

    Woody also recounts stories associated with the house’s haunted reputation, including reports of occupants leaving after allegedly experiencing unexplained events and a 2014 incident in which a paranormal investigator suffered a self-inflicted stab wound while staying overnight at the property.

    Ultimately, Woody comes back to the investigation itself.

    Eight people—including six children—were murdered with an axe in a small Iowa town in 1912. The crime scene was overwhelmed by curious residents. Physical evidence was handled repeatedly. Modern forensic tools did not exist. Suspects came and went, confessions were made and withdrawn, and competing theories multiplied.

    More than 114 years later, no one has ever been convicted of the Villisca Axe Murders.

    Woody closes by reflecting on how violence, victim posing, and attempts by killers to conceal or psychologically distance themselves from their crimes are not modern phenomena. Cases from more than a century ago contain disturbing behaviors that investigators still encounter today.

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    • Villisca Axe Murders
    • Moore family murders
    • Stillinger sisters
    • 1912 Iowa mass murder
    • Contaminated crime scene
    • National Guard securing the murder house
    • Rev. Lyn George Jacklin Kelly
    • 1917 confession
    • Hung jury and acquittal
    • Frank Fernando Jones
    • William Mansfield
    • James Wilkerson
    • Henry Lee Moore
    • Andrew Sawyer
    • Samuel Elias Moyer
    • Paul Mueller serial-killer theory
    • The Man from the Train
    • Villisca Axe Murder House
    • Paranormal claims
    • Unsolved historic crimes


    • The Villisca investigation was compromised almost immediately. Townspeople flooded the home, evidence was handled, and the scene was so uncontrolled that the National Guard was eventually used to secure it.
    • Rev. Lyn George Jacklin Kelly remains one of the case’s most famous suspects, largely because he confessed on August 31, 1917—but he recanted, his first trial ended with a hung jury, and his second ended in acquittal.
    • There has never been a proven killer. Numerous suspects and serial-killer theories have emerged, but the murders officially remain unsolved.
    • The case demonstrates how dramatically forensic investigation has changed. What investigators today would treat as a tightly controlled crime scene became a gathering place for townspeople in 1912.
    • More than a century later, the murder house itself has become part of the story, operating as a historical and paranormal tourism destination.

    Name verification completed for this episode: the correct place is Villisca, the victims are Josiah B. “Joe” Moore, Sarah Montgomery Moore, Herman Moore, Mary Katherine Moore, Boyd Moore, Paul Moore, Lena Gertrude Stillinger, and Ina May Stillinger, and the minister’s fuller name is Rev. Lyn George Jacklin Kelly. I also checked Frank Fernando Jones, William Mansfield, Andrew Sawyer, Henry Lee Moore, Samuel Elias Moyer, Bill James, Rachel McCarthy James, and Paul Mueller before using them here.




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    True Crime Time For August 29, 2026 | NFL Battery Charges, A Dirty Cop’s Fallout & Kohberger Tries to Undo His Plea Aug 29, 2026
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    On today’s episode of True Crime Time For, Woody opens with the 1994 murders of the Hodges family in Vinton, Virginia. William Blaine Hodges, Teresa Lynn Fulcher Hodges, 11-year-old Winter Ashley Hodges, and 3-year-old Anah Michelle Hodges were found dead inside their burning home. Teresa had been strangled, while Blaine, Winter, and Anah had been shot. Family friend Earl Conrad Bramblett was later convicted and executed for the murders.

    Woody then heads to New Hampshire, where Nestor Roman II is accused of stealing a rescue truck while firefighters were battling a blaze at his own home. Authorities say Roman drove through the active emergency scene, nearly struck firefighters, ran over charged fire hoses, damaged vehicles and property, crashed the stolen rescue truck several miles away, and was later taken into custody.

    In F’d Up Professionals, Woody covers the case of Green Bay Packers running back Josh Jacobs, who has been charged with misdemeanor battery and criminal damage to property stemming from an alleged domestic incident with his ex-girlfriend. Prosecutors say surveillance footage recovered from Jacobs’ garage corroborates key parts of her account, including allegations that he grabbed her, threw her to the ground, took her phone, and later damaged it. The Packers and NFL are monitoring the case.

    The episode then turns to one of the most damaging kinds of misconduct in law enforcement: a dirty cop whose lies can unravel years of cases.

    Woody discusses Byron Prophet, who spent nearly six years in prison after Houston narcotics officer Gerald Goines testified against him in a 2008 drug case. Prophet maintained that he had never entered the house where drugs were found and that Goines fabricated key details. Years later, scrutiny following the deadly 2019 Harding Street raid exposed Goines’ history of falsifying evidence and search-warrant information. Prophet’s convictions were vacated in 2024, and he has now filed a federal civil-rights lawsuit against Goines, other officers, and the City of Houston.

    Woody uses the story to explain why police corruption damages far more than a single case. Once an officer is proven dishonest, every conviction tied to that officer can come under scrutiny, including cases where the defendant may actually have been guilty.

    Then comes a bizarre F’d Up Professional story out of Albany, New York. Tim Walters, a longtime head custodian at Hackett Middle School, was discovered to have been living inside the school for more than six months. Walters had moved beds, a refrigerator, and other belongings into a storage area and even brought his four children there on weekends. School officials stumbled onto the arrangement while reviewing security footage during an investigation into overtime claims by other employees. Walters ultimately resigned.

    Finally, Woody returns to Bryan Kohberger, who pleaded guilty to murdering Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin.

    Kohberger is now attempting to withdraw that guilty plea, alleging ineffective assistance of counsel, coercion, and misinformation about the evidence and death-row conditions. Judge Steven Hippler has scheduled a status conference and potential evidentiary hearing for June 2027. Kohberger had waived his right to appeal as part of the plea agreement that spared him the death penalty.

    Woody’s position is straightforward: if Kohberger truly wants the plea undone, then the entire case should reopen—including the possibility of the death penalty.

    He closes by reminding listeners to stay patient with the RLRC cases currently being worked and promises to update the Lifers as soon as he can share new developments.

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    • Hodges family murders
    • Earl Conrad Bramblett
    • Nestor Roman II
    • Fire-rescue truck theft
    • Josh Jacobs
    • NFL Personal Conduct Policy
    • Domestic battery allegations
    • Garage surveillance footage
    • Byron Prophet
    • Gerald Goines
    • Houston narcotics scandal
    • Wrongful convictions
    • Police fabrication of evidence
    • Harding Street raid
    • Tim Walters
    • Custodian living inside school
    • Bryan Kohberger
    • Guilty-plea challenge
    • Ineffective-assistance claim
    • Possible renewed death-penalty exposure


    • The Hodges case is another reminder that attempts to destroy evidence—such as setting a crime scene on fire—do not guarantee a killer will escape accountability.
    • Surveillance footage can become decisive evidence, as seen in the Josh Jacobs case and in the discovery of the Albany custodian living inside a school.
    • Police dishonesty can contaminate an enormous number of cases. Gerald Goines’ misconduct led to renewed scrutiny of convictions stretching back years and helped overturn Byron Prophet’s case.
    • Kohberger’s attempt to withdraw his plea faces a significant legal hurdle because he entered the plea in open court and waived appellate rights as part of the agreement.
    • Woody’s broader message remains consistent: whether the accused is a celebrity, a police officer, or an ordinary citizen, the evidence has to be followed and the job has to be done right.




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    True Crime Time For August 28, 2026 | The Scalp Hunter Dies, 45-Year-Old Cold Case Solved & Kohberger Wants Another Chance Aug 28, 2026
    Show notes

    On today’s episode of True Crime Time For, Woody opens with updates on Justice for Hailey and What Happened to Madison. Hailey’s case remains under review, while Woody says the Madison investigation is still moving forward and asks listeners to continue sending information to 313-RLRC-TIP.

    For On This Day in Crime, Woody remembers Emmett Till, the 14-year-old Black teenager who was brutally murdered in Mississippi in 1955. Roy Bryant and J. W. Milam were charged with the murder, acquitted by an all-white jury, and later publicly admitted killing Till. Woody reflects on the racism surrounding the case and the importance of remembering that history.

    Woody then turns to convicted British murderer John Sweeney, known as the “Scalp Hunter”, who died in prison without ever answering whether he had additional victims. Sweeney was serving a whole-life sentence for the murders of former girlfriends Melissa Halstead and Paula Fields, whose dismembered remains were found years apart in canals in the Netherlands and England. Police also investigated him in connection with other missing women. His former girlfriend Delia Balmer survived a violent axe attack by Sweeney and later wrote about her experience.

    Next, Woody covers the murder of Star-Michael Tucker and the life sentence imposed on Charles Carson-Dowdy. Prosecutors said Tucker tried to end their relationship, after which Carson-Dowdy traveled from Alabama to Pensacola, broke into her apartment, waited for her, shot her repeatedly, and then ran over her body multiple times with her own vehicle.

    In Family Matters, Woody heads to Indiana, where Adriana Velasquez is accused of intentionally driving her Honda into her husband as he left a divorce hearing on a motorcycle. Police say she struck and dragged him, then got out of the vehicle with a knife and stabbed him in the arm. She now faces attempted murder and additional charges.

    Then it’s F’d Up Professionals. A Nebraska police captain and her partner are accused of leaving their two-year-old daughter alone inside a locked minivan while they went fishing. Another couple heard the child crying and called 911. The toddler was reportedly left inside for at least 28 minutes but was not injured.

    Woody also covers an Indiana case involving Amy Fuller, who is accused of repeatedly striking a child in the head in a church parking lot after the child asked her for water. Witnesses told police the child was hit several times, and doctors later documented a large lump on the back of the child’s head.

    Then comes one of the most satisfying stories of the episode: a 45-year-old cold case finally gets an answer.

    Twenty-three-year-old Yolanda Herrera disappeared after leaving a bar in Universal City, Texas, in April 1981. Two days later, children walking to school discovered her body. Investigators preserved DNA evidence, but for decades they had no suspect.

    Advances in forensic genetic genealogy eventually led investigators to Kelly Lee Brower Sr. in Arizona. Authorities say Brower’s DNA matched evidence from Herrera’s autopsy and that he subsequently confessed to the murder. Woody celebrates the detectives who refused to give up on the case—even though some of the investigators working it today were not yet born when Yolanda was killed.

    Woody also discusses the massive Feeding Our Future pandemic-fraud investigation. The scheme involved federal money that was supposed to provide meals for children during the pandemic but was instead allegedly diverted through fake meal sites, fabricated records, kickbacks, and personal purchases. Aimee Bock, the founder of Feeding Our Future, was identified in the episode as the central figure in the broader fraud scheme.

    Finally, Woody turns to Bryan Kohberger, who pleaded guilty to murdering four University of Idaho students—Madison Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin—and avoided the death penalty as part of his plea agreement.

    Kohberger is now seeking post-conviction relief and has been granted new counsel. Woody discusses the extraordinarily high bar Kohberger faces after pleading guilty in open court and acknowledging that he understood the agreement. He also focuses on what renewed litigation means for the victims’ families, who are again forced to watch the case return to the spotlight.

    Woody’s view is simple: if Kohberger wants the case reopened, then reopen all of it—including the possibility of the death penalty.

    He closes by thanking everyone for listening, sharing, and supporting True Crime Time For, and wishes the Lifers a safe weekend.

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    • Justice for Hailey
    • What Happened to Madison
    • Emmett Till
    • John Sweeney / Scalp Hunter
    • Melissa Halstead
    • Paula Fields
    • Delia Balmer
    • Charles Carson-Dowdy
    • Star-Michael Tucker murder
    • Domestic violence
    • Adriana Velasquez
    • Divorce-hearing attack
    • Nebraska hot-car child neglect case
    • Amy Fuller
    • Child abuse allegations
    • Yolanda Herrera cold case
    • Kelly Lee Brower Sr.
    • Forensic genetic genealogy
    • Feeding Our Future
    • Aimee Bock
    • Bryan Kohberger
    • University of Idaho murders
    • Post-conviction relief


    • John Sweeney died with unanswered questions, leaving open the possibility that other victims may never be identified.
    • Domestic violence is a major theme throughout the episode, from Star-Michael Tucker’s murder to the alleged attack following an Indiana divorce hearing.
    • Yolanda Herrera’s case proves cold does not mean unsolvable. Forty-five years later, forensic genetic genealogy provided investigators with the lead they needed.
    • The Feeding Our Future case shows how programs created to help vulnerable children can themselves become targets for large-scale fraud.
    • Bryan Kohberger’s latest legal move affects more than the defendant. Each new filing can force the victims’ families back into the case and the public spotlight.
    • RLRC’s ongoing message remains the same: keep submitting information in What Happened to Madison and keep waiting for the review in Justice for Hailey.




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    True Crime Time For August 27, 2026 | A Wife’s Death Ruled Suicide, Law Enforcement Couple Arrested & 30 Years on Death Row Aug 27, 2026
    Show notes

    On today’s episode of True Crime Time For, Woody opens with another message for everyone following What Happened to Madison: hang on. Because the episode was recorded a day early, he still can’t reveal what he believes is coming, but promises the Lifers will hear about any break in the case as soon as he can share it.

    For On This Day in Crime, Woody looks back at Edmund “Ed” Kemper, the infamous Co-Ed Killer, who committed his first murders in 1964 when he killed his grandparents, Edmund Emil Kemper Sr. and Maude Matilda Kemper. Kemper would later murder six more women, including his mother and her friend, before surrendering to authorities.

    Then it’s F’d Up Professionals, and Woody turns to the arrest of San Francisco 49ers principal owner Jed York in East Palestine, Ohio. York was arrested after allegedly responding to an undercover prostitution advertisement. He later pleaded no contest to misdemeanor charges of disorderly conduct and possessing criminal tools. Court records show the original prostitution-related charge was amended, and York was fined $1,150.

    The episode then moves into a case that hits several familiar RLRC themes at once. Jeremy Perrin, a Missouri fire chief, reserve deputy sheriff, and assistant coroner, has been charged in connection with the 2025 shooting death of his wife, Shelby Kessler Perrin. Her death was initially reported as a possible self-inflicted gunshot wound after Jeremy allegedly told investigators she pulled a gun from the center console and shot herself while he was driving on Interstate 55.

    But investigators kept digging. According to the case described in the episode, they discovered video hidden on Shelby’s phone that allegedly showed Jeremy striking, choking, and threatening her. Investigators also recovered an earlier message in which Jeremy allegedly warned that his escalating rage could ultimately leave Shelby needing a “body bag.” Because of Jeremy’s positions within local public-safety agencies, the investigation was turned over to the Missouri State Highway Patrol. He now faces charges including second-degree murder, domestic assault, harassment, and tampering with physical evidence.

    Next, Woody stays close to home with a domestic violence case in East Feliciana Parish, Louisiana involving two people connected to the local criminal justice system. Shelby Nelson, who works for the 20th Judicial District Attorney’s Office, and her husband, David Nelson, a Slaughter police officer and part-time Jackson marshal, were both arrested following a domestic dispute. Video recorded by their son allegedly captured part of the altercation, while Shelby told investigators that the video did not show the full context and alleged that her husband had also assaulted and choked her. Both were booked on misdemeanor domestic-abuse charges.

    Then it’s Planes, Trains and Automobiles in San Antonio, where 25-year-old Brandon Christopher Figueroa allegedly fled a Texas Department of Public Safety traffic stop, led troopers on a high-speed pursuit, crashed through a gate, and ended up on a runway at San Antonio International Airport. Troopers took him into custody at gunpoint and allegedly discovered a firearm in the vehicle.

    The final portion of the episode takes a much more serious turn as Woody examines the case of Tyrone Noling, who has spent roughly three decades on Ohio’s death row while maintaining that he did not murder elderly couple Bearnhardt and Cora Hartig in 1990.

    Noling was convicted after other young men implicated him, but those witnesses later recanted. No physical evidence tied Noling to the murders, the murder weapon was never recovered, and evidence developed since his conviction has pointed toward other potential suspects. The Ohio Innocence Project has been assisting him, and former Portage County Sheriff Ken Howe has publicly said he now believes Noling is innocent. Noling appeared before the Ohio Parole Board on August 18 seeking a full pardon from Governor Mike DeWine.

    The case sends Woody into a larger discussion about the death penalty and one of its most difficult questions: what happens when the justice system gets it wrong? He discusses wrongful death sentences, recanted testimony, DNA evidence, aging prisoners, failed executions, mental competency, and the reality that some people sentenced to death have later been exonerated.

    Woody closes by reminding listeners why investigations—even frustratingly slow ones—have to be done correctly. Every new tip creates another lead that investigators may need to follow, and that takes time. His message remains the same: get it one time and get it right, because justice is justice.

    True Crime Time For, Real Life Real Crime, Woody Overton, What Happened to Madison, Ed Kemper, Co-Ed Killer, Jed York, San Francisco 49ers, Jeremy Perrin, Shelby Kessler Perrin, Missouri murder, staged suicide, domestic violence, Shelby Nelson, David Nelson, East Feliciana Parish, Slaughter Louisiana, Brandon Christopher Figueroa, San Antonio International Airport, Tyrone Noling, Bearnhardt Hartig, Cora Hartig, Ohio Innocence Project, death row, wrongful conviction, death penalty, true crime podcast


    • What Happened to Madison
    • Ed Kemper and his first murders
    • Jed York arrest
    • NFL Personal Conduct Policy
    • Jeremy Perrin
    • Shelby Kessler Perrin
    • Death initially reported as suicide
    • Domestic violence evidence
    • Hidden video evidence
    • Missouri State Highway Patrol investigation
    • Shelby and David Nelson
    • East Feliciana Parish domestic violence arrests
    • San Antonio airport pursuit
    • Brandon Christopher Figueroa
    • Tyrone Noling
    • Bearnhardt and Cora Hartig murders
    • Ohio Innocence Project
    • Recanted witness testimony
    • Death-row clemency
    • Wrongful convictions
    • Problems surrounding executions
    • Importance of thoroughly investigating tips


    This episode has a strong recurring theme: the first explanation for a death is not necessarily the correct one. In Shelby Kessler Perrin’s case, investigators continued working after her death was initially presented as possibly self-inflicted and uncovered evidence that ultimately led to her husband being charged.

    The episode also reinforces that professional status does not place anyone above the law. Several of today’s stories involve people connected to professional sports, law enforcement, prosecution, fire service, or the coroner system.

    Tyrone Noling’s case presents the opposite side of justice—the danger of convicting and potentially executing an innocent person. His effort for a full pardon is supported by recanted witness statements, the absence of physical evidence tying him to the murders, and concerns raised by a former county sheriff.

    And Woody closes with an important point for everyone waiting impatiently for movement in RLRC’s cases: tips can make an investigation take longer because every credible lead has to be investigated—and that is exactly what should happen. Get it once. Get it right.

    Name check completed: I verified Jed York, Jeremy Perrin, Shelby Kessler Perrin, Tyrone Noling, and Bearnhardt and Cora Hartig rather than carrying over the transcript’s phonetic/misspelled versions.


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    True Crime Time for August 26, 2026 | Murder Disguised as Suicide, A Killer Escapes & Deputies Run Into the Fire Aug 26, 2026
    Show notes

    On today’s episode of True Crime Time, Woody opens with anticipation that a major development may finally be breaking in one of the cases the Real Life Real Crime community has been fighting for. Because this episode was recorded two days early, he can’t say exactly what has happened yet—but he tells the Lifers he hopes they’ve already heard the news by the time this episode drops. Woody also continues the call for What Happened to Madison, Justice for Hailey, Justice for Barbara Blount, and justice for every family still searching for answers.

    For On This Day in Crime, Woody goes back to August 26, 1980, and the incredible bombing of Harvey’s Resort Hotel, where men posing as delivery workers rolled what appeared to be a copy machine into the hotel. Inside was an elaborate bomb containing approximately 1,000 pounds of dynamite and a ransom demand for $3 million. Attempts to disarm the device triggered an explosion that destroyed five stories of the hotel.

    Then Woody shares a reminder that law enforcement’s responsibility doesn’t end when a suspect runs. In Texas, deputies pursued a 53-year-old theft suspect who fled from a Walmart, crashed his vehicle, and became trapped as the car burst into flames. The same deputies he had just run from risked their own lives to pull him from the burning vehicle before it exploded.

    Next, one of Tennessee’s Most Wanted fugitives is captured in Georgia. Kenneth Spruell, wanted in connection with an alleged violent home invasion and attempted murder, was taken into custody after cooperation among Tennessee authorities, Fulton County deputies, federal task forces, and other agencies.

    Woody then turns to a controversial juvenile murder sentence out of Washington. Caleb Prince Tramble, who was 15 at the time of the crime, pleaded guilty to second-degree murder after video allegedly showed him and another teenager confronting Messiah Washington inside an apartment elevator. The other teen opened fire, and prosecutors say Tramble then pulled his own gun and pointed it at the already-wounded victim. Woody questions the decision to keep Tramble in the juvenile system until age 25 and whether the sentence adequately recognizes the young man who lost his life.

    In Family Matters, a Connecticut father faces criminal charges after his one-year-old son died after being left inside a pickup truck at the family’s strawberry farm. The father told police the baby had fallen asleep, that he left the air conditioning running, and that he was working when he later returned to find his child blue and unresponsive. Woody discusses the tragedy while questioning the $1 million bond and distinguishing the circumstances from other hot-car deaths the show has covered.

    Then comes a case Woody simply cannot understand. A Virginia man who was found not guilty by reason of insanity in a murder case was housed at a state mental-health facility—but was later permitted a 48-hour unsupervised community release. Instead of returning, authorities say he boarded an international flight and fled the United States. Woody walks through the decisions that allowed the man to obtain a passport, leave the facility unsupervised, and ultimately escape overseas.

    Finally, Woody examines the death of 37-year-old Lindsay Barnett in Colorado. Her husband, Patrick Theodore “Ted” Barnett, reportedly called 911 and claimed he found Lindsay dead in the shower with her throat cut and a knife nearby, suggesting she had taken her own life.

    But investigators say the physical evidence told a very different story.

    Police reportedly found substantial blood in the bedroom, a trail of blood leading toward the bathroom, numerous injuries on Lindsay’s body, and what appeared to be a defensive wound. Investigators also learned Ted had been involved with another woman despite initially denying infidelity. During questioning, detectives documented inconsistencies in his account and blood on his face, neck, beard, and behind his ear that he allegedly could not explain.

    Ted Barnett was arrested for first-degree murder and is being held without bond. The case leads Woody back to a theme that has become especially important to Justice for Hailey: when someone claims a death was suicide, investigators still have to follow the physical evidence. If the scene doesn’t fit the story, keep investigating.

    True Crime Time, Real Life Real Crime, Woody Overton, What Happened to Madison, Justice for Hailey, Barbara Blount, Harvey’s Resort bombing, police pursuit, burning car rescue, Kenneth Spruell, Tennessee Most Wanted, Caleb Prince Tramble, Messiah Washington, juvenile murder, hot car death, child death, insanity defense, mental hospital escape, Lindsay Barnett, Ted Barnett, staged suicide, forensic evidence, Colorado murder, true crime podcast

    • What Happened to Madison
    • Justice for Hailey
    • Justice for Barbara Blount
    • Harvey’s Resort Hotel bombing
    • Deputies rescue fleeing suspect
    • Police pursuits and officer responsibility
    • Tennessee Most Wanted capture
    • Kenneth Spruell
    • Caleb Prince Tramble
    • Messiah Washington murder
    • Juvenile sentencing
    • Child left in vehicle
    • Connecticut strawberry farm tragedy
    • Not guilty by reason of insanity
    • Unsupervised mental-health release
    • International escape
    • Lindsay Barnett homicide
    • Alleged staged suicide
    • Blood evidence and defensive injuries
    • Inconsistent statements
    • Infidelity uncovered during investigation
    • Law enforcement’s responsibility changes instantly from pursuit to rescue when a suspect’s life is in danger. The Texas deputies went from chasing a fleeing theft suspect to risking their own safety to pull him from a burning vehicle.
    • Juvenile sentencing requires balancing rehabilitation with accountability—and Woody questions whether the victim can become lost in that discussion.
    • The Virginia case raises serious questions about how someone found not guilty of murder by reason of insanity, and still considered in need of inpatient hospitalization, was permitted an unsupervised release that allowed him to leave the country.
    • Crime scenes have to speak louder than stories. Investigators in Lindsay Barnett’s death reportedly found physical evidence inconsistent with the claim that she took her own life.
    • Woody begins this episode hoping the Lifers may finally be hearing the news they’ve been waiting for in one of RLRC’s Justice For cases: keep fighting, keep sharing information, and never give up.




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    True Crime Time for August 25, 2026 | Hollywood Child Abuse Charges, A Mother Bites Off Her Husband’s Ear & More Family Violence Aug 25, 2026
    Show notes

    On today’s episode of True Crime Time, Woody opens with updates on What Happened to Madison, Justice for Barbara Blount, and Justice for Hailey, saying he knows movement is coming and hopes this is the week. He reminds listeners that the Georgia oversight review in Hailey’s case is still pending and promises to update the Lifers as soon as there is something he can share.

    For On This Day in Crime, Woody looks back at several major historical cases, including the 1913 conviction of Leo Frank, the 1967 assassination of American Nazi Party founder George Lincoln Rockwell, the escalation of the St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre, a deadly 1927 Florida law-enforcement shootout, and a landmark Canadian murder prosecution involving Inuit defendant Nulakock.

    In F’d Up Professionals, Woody covers the arrest of Hollywood actor, director, and producer Shane Ryan Gledhill, also known professionally as Shane Ryan or Shane Ryan-Reed, who now faces 24 felony charges tied to allegations of child sexual abuse and exploitation. Investigators say he allegedly used casting calls and filmmaking projects to gain access to underage victims, and detectives believe his conduct may have spanned decades.

    Then it’s Family Matters, where Woody tells the bizarre story of a Florida woman accused of biting off part of her husband’s ear during an argument while he was driving on the interstate with their two children in the car. The husband required surgery, and investigators ultimately identified the wife as the primary aggressor.

    Woody also covers the guilty plea of former University of Kentucky cheerleader Laken Snelling, who admitted to manslaughter in the death of her newborn son after previously giving investigators multiple different explanations for what happened. Prosecutors are recommending a prison sentence that Woody says is far too lenient for the death of a baby who was born alive.

    Another devastating case comes from Wisconsin, where a mother admitted that she turned music up louder to drown out the cries of her four-year-old son while her boyfriend allegedly beat him. The child later died, and investigators say the abuse was extensive.

    In North Dakota, a 22-year-old mother faces murder and attempted murder charges after authorities say two of her young children died and a third was seriously injured. According to court documents, she allegedly threatened the children’s father before officers entered the home and found the children unresponsive.

    Woody closes on a lighter note with a Tennessee middle-school football game where a 16-year-old girl ran out of the stands and leveled a player on the field, leading to her arrest and lifetime ban from the school system’s properties. That sends Woody into a side discussion about girls playing football, including the story of Hannah Mouton, a Louisiana high-school player who moved from kicker to wide receiver and even caught a touchdown pass.

    Before signing off, Woody again tells the Lifers to hold on in the Madison case, saying he believes something is coming soon and that the community’s persistence has mattered.

    True Crime Time, Real Life Real Crime, Woody Overton, What Happened to Madison, Justice for Hailey, Barbara Blount, Shane Ryan Gledhill, Shane Ryan Reed, Hollywood child abuse, casting call abuse, Florida domestic violence, ear biting, Laken Snelling, newborn death, child abuse, Wisconsin child murder, North Dakota family violence, middle school football, Hannah Mouton, true crime podcast

    • What Happened to Madison update
    • Justice for Barbara Blount
    • Justice for Hailey
    • Leo Frank
    • George Lincoln Rockwell
    • St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre
    • Shane Ryan Gledhill investigation
    • Hollywood casting-call abuse allegations
    • Child sexual exploitation
    • Florida domestic violence incident
    • Laken Snelling guilty plea
    • Newborn manslaughter case
    • Wisconsin child abuse death
    • North Dakota child murders
    • Middle-school football assault
    • Girls playing football
    • Woody again emphasizes that justice cases often move slowly, but persistence matters, especially in Madison, Hailey, and Barbara Blount’s cases.
    • Positions of authority and access, including entertainment and casting environments, can be exploited by predators, which is why reporting and survivor testimony are so important.
    • Family violence can escalate in shocking and unpredictable ways, and children are often the most vulnerable people caught in the middle.
    • The Wisconsin and North Dakota cases underscore how devastating it can be when adults fail to protect children from abuse or become the source of that danger themselves.
    • The final football story gives the episode a rare lighter ending, with Woody reflecting on how much girls’ participation in traditionally male sports has changed over time.



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