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Woody continues his coverage of the Courtney Coco murder trial with the 4th part of the Witness Testimony phase.#TrueCrime #Podcast #courtneycocomurdertrialFULL TRANSCRIPT BELOWREAL LIFE REAL CRIME (WITNESS TESTIMONY PART 4) [Real Life Real Crime theme] Woody: Warning. This episode of Real Life Real Crime, the podcast, may contain descriptions of acts of violence or that of a sexual nature and should be for people that are 18 years or older. Heed my warning, people. I do not get the facts of these cases off of the internet or from some television show. The facts I'm retelling you were presented to me by the victims of the crimes or the perpetrators who committed the crimes against the victims. My descriptions of the crime scenes, what I saw with my own two eyes. If you're going to get offended, please turn this podcast off now. Thank you.Hello, everybody, and welcome to this episode of Real Life Real Crime, the podcast. As always, I'm your host. Woody Overton. Today, I'll be continuing with witness testimony in Courtney Coco's murder trial, which David Anthony Burns is on trial for second degree murder of Courtney Coco. What I'm telling you are the facts didn't come out in the news. I'm trying to give it to you word by word. I took shorthand as best I could. Sometimes, I'll paraphrase things. If I make any mistakes, it's an honest mistake. I don't think I have, but if I do, there it is.So, I love all you, Lifers. Thank you for sharing this series and all the Real Life Real Crime and make sure you subscribe and share us and like us and go leave us a review on iTunes, if you feel so inclined, I'd appreciate it. Patreon Convicts, love you so much. Thank you for your support. Show couldn't run without you. Stay tuned at the end of the show for some Real Life Real Crime announcements, and let's get started. All right.Y'all, the next day, we go into court there a little bit early before the jury comes in. Hugo Highland, by the way, he's doing a phenomenal job, I think, in this trial. He actually has come up to me a couple of times and talked to me or whatever. He came and he sat by me. There's not a lot of people in the courtroom yet. And he said, "You know, Woody, I'm like you, I think. I keep waking up in the middle of the night thinking about all the different things. I'm still learning as I go." And I told, "Mr. Hugo," I ask his statement, I said, "I think you're the best I've ever seen at a trial." You know what he said? He said, "Well, I'm certainly giving my all." I said, "There's no doubt about that, brother." He got up and walked away. David Anthony Burns' attorney, LaCour, came in. He's wearing a brown suit with a vest. David Anthony Burns came in, and he's wearing a white shirt and black pants, and Hugo had on a black suit.Jury comes in, they seat them, go on the record. First witness, Hugo calls Ms. Ina Laborde. Now, y'all, Ina Laborde is the grandmother I never had. Mine were all deceased. I call her Ma affectionately. She was like 40 something years union rep for the Department of Corrections. Little bitty, tiny thing, heart of gold, best lady in the world. I love her to pieces, and I call her Ma. But anyway, they called Ms. Ina Laborde to stand. Remember, the day before, Michelle had testified about the comforter being missing and the rags and the dryer and all that stuff. But also, the lady, Ms. Charlene, I believe her name was, testified that David Anthony Burns told her he wrapped her up in plastic and dumped her in Texas. Now, heretofore, it's always been the comforter, and the comforter was missing.Now, Ms. Ina, when she was sitting in court, well, she had something to say about the plastic, and I'm going to tell you. Hugo says, "Who are you?" And she said, "I'm Courtney's grandmother." He said, "When was the last time you were in Courtney's house before she was killed?" "I was in her home three weeks before the murder." "Did you go in the bathroom?" "Yes." "What did you see in the bathroom?" "She had a plastic shower curtain, and it had fish and shells on it." "Well, after the murder, when y'all went to collect the items from her home, what did you see?" "When we went to collect the items three weeks later after the murder, I went into the bathroom, and I saw the shower curtain was not there.""So, three weeks before it was there and three weeks later, it's not? After three weeks before the murder, the shower curtain is there, you see it?" "Yes." "Three weeks later, you're there and it's not there." "Yes." He tenders the witness.LaCour gets up and says, "During the time that David Anthony Burns and Lace were together, they were together for a long time?" "Yeah." "You were in court when Lace testified?" "Yes." "You are the one that informed someone that shower curtain was missing?" "Yes. I told Michelle." "Well, you never told anyone else. What about Shamus Setliff?" "I never told anybody else because I didn't think it was important." Has no further questions. Basically, Ms. Ina was in court, and she was like, "Oh, my God, plastic, the shower curtain," y'all, she didn't make it up. Very religious lady. I'm just telling you. She wasn't making it up. Hugo had to answer that before LaCour brought it up.Now, the next witness they call is a gentleman by the name of Shamus Setliff. Shamus Setliff is a character, to say the least. Now, wait until you hear this shit. Shamus Setliff takes the stand, and Hugo says, "Who are you?" "Shamus Setliff." "How many times you've been married?" "I've been married twice." "Were you ever married to Tiffany Cedars?" "Yeah, 13 years between 2001 and 2013." "Do you know David Anthony Burns?" "Yeah." "Were you and David Anthony Burns friends in 2004?" "We've been friends my whole life." "Well, what about Courtney? You know her?" "Yeah, I knew her since she was in diapers." "Well, were you with her at the LA dunes riding four wheelers on a camping trip?" "Yeah." "Well, what are the dunes?" "That's a place where we all went and rode four wheelers." Hugo stops, and he wants to play a video.Remember, I told y'all Lace had gotten a camera? And it's a video. It shows Courtney in a red bra and some shorts. She said something to the effect of the camera. "I'm sorry, Mom, we forgot our bathing suits," or whatever. Shamus is sitting on a four-wheeler. Courtney standing with the back to her, and he kind of pulls her to her, and he's messing with something like her tag on the back. She's like, "Oh, he's just fixing my tag." They're giggling or whatever. And that's it, okay. "Was that y'all?" "Yeah." "Was that Lace talking in the video?" Shamus said something, and Hugo said, "Let me finish. When was the video made?" Shamus said, "It was Labor Day weekend." "So, the date and the time on the video is not correct?" "Well, I remember because I had a bad four-wheeler accident." "Other than the dunes trip, have you seen Burns with Courtney?" "Yes. She was a pretty girl." "Don't make me get ugly. Was there something going on?" LaCour stands up and objects and the judge overrules LaCour. "Was there something going on with Burns and Courtney?" Hugo is getting upset with Shamus. Shamus is being very evasive, y'all, on the stand. Basically, Hugo said, "What did Burns tell you about Courtney's death?" He said, "Well, he told me on a cell phone a week after the death. He called and let me know about her body. His mom knew that he did murder Coco."Hugo is getting pissed now because Shamus is evidently not telling him what he told him the week before when he interviewed him in his office. "Well, when I interviewed you before you left my office, Tiffany recorded me and gave it to y'all." "Do you know that Burns used the blanket to wrap Courtney up and took the blanket to his mother?" Shamus is like whatever. He said, "Did Burns describe what Courtney's body looked like?" Shamus said, "Well, it was black. That's all I know." "Did you learn from Burns what Courtney's body looked like?" "No." "Where were you when Courtney was murdered?" "I stayed at my house on Frazier Road. Tiffany and I lived in Lake Charles. I was in Rapides when she was killed." "Okay, well, who did you work for during that time?" "I worked for Lafayette Drug Company, and I delivered stuff to convenience stores." "Your home was based out of Lake Charles?" "Yeah." "Was Winnie, Texas, part of your delivery route?" "No. Nah-huh." "So, you never had to get picked up in Winnie, Texas?" "I've never been to Winnie, Texas." "You never had to get picked up "Winnie, Texas, while in your work van?" "No.""Did you tell the police your route took you through Winnie? Did you tell the police you were on the road Courtney was found on?" "Yes. I was on the road three times Courtney was murdered." "Did you tell him that you passed the building that weekend?" "I went Monday morning." "How did you learn what Courtney's body looked like when she was recovered?" "Woody, the podcaster." "Did you tell your wife that she was blue from the waist up?" "Yes." "Did you tell the police that Burns took the blanket to his mom and washed it?" "No." "So, Courtney's been dead how long?" "20 years." "The first time you let anyone know about this blanket was related until you told me? Do you know Billy Earhart?" "Yeah, he's my best friend." "When Courtney was killed, where was he living?" "Not [unintelligible 00:14:45] me." "But did he own a silver Mustang?" "No, it was red. It was laser red." "I don't want to have to drag your kids in here to testify, Mr. Setliff." Basically, they were going back and forth.All right, now let me interject here. On the recording that Tiffany Cedars did that we turned over to Alexandria Police Department, that when she was questioning him, he said, I think, like six times in three minutes that Burns did it, and he said that all he knew is she looked like she had been beat to hell from the waist up. Now, y'all, her body was badly decomposed, and her head was black and all that, and he said that that had never been released to the public. He's trying to say now that he learned about that on the podcast from me. Bullshit. You told your then wife that she looked like she had been beat from hell from the waist up. There was no way he could have known that. No way, unless he had seen it. Anyway, they go back and forth and just hammering on. LaCour gets up on redirect. He says, "Mr. Setliff, did you want to be with Courtney?" "No, I dated her sister. But no, I didn’t want to date her." "But you tell the cops three different stories. You gave them three different statements. Did you take back everything you said just three weeks ago? Why are you up here if you're a liar?" Shamus says, "Because I got a subpoena." "Did your wife find panties in saran wrap and say you smelled the worst ever? That you had the smell of death on you?" "Oh, I was on a camping trip. I may have smelled bad." "Okay, the Mustang, you said it was laser red? You put yourself where the body was found. You pass by that building three times." "No, I ain't never been to Winnie, Texas."Y'all, he's fucking lying. He gave one statement to Hugo. He's given another one to LaCour. He's going back and forth. He knows his ass is going to crack. The one thing that never changes is the truth. So, Hugo gets up on redirect and says, "When was the first time you told the cops Burns told you he killed Courtney Coco?" He was like, "I don't know." "The last time you talked to sergeant state police, did you tell anything about the body?" "No. I don't know," whatever. Hugo did good getting in his ass, but he's been compromised as a witness. He lied. Everybody knew he was lying.But guess what? Still, if a witness is a liar and a piece of shit, it doesn't mean he's lying about everything. He obviously couldn't have known about the condition of the body if he didn't have personal knowledge. Or let's say worst case scenario that Burns told him. He got on the stand and testified that Burns told him he killed her. But then, he lied and said he had never been to Winnie, Texas. Then, he lied and said, "Well, but I passed by the body three times." Then, he lied and said, "I've never been to Winnie, Texas." He lied about coming home smelling like the smell of death, whatever. Fuck you, Setliff, that's what I got to say about it.The next witness is Tiffany Cedars. They bring her in, they swear her in and all that. Hugo asks her, "Do you want to be here?" "I do not want to be here." "Who is Shamus?" "It's ex-husband." "Tell me about that weekend." "Shamus Setliff wasn't home. I have no idea where he was. He came home Sunday night early, like 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning, and we argued about him not coming home. His mom called and said he was in a four-wheeler ride and was injured from the four-wheeler the same weekend that Courtney disappeared and her body was found. He stunk really bad. I told him to take a shower and put his clothes in the washing machine. He asked me to go in his work van and get his shaving kit, and that's when I found panties in a foil, like he had been smoking dope on it. And the panties weren't mine. He told me the panties belong to Misty Hutchinson," or somebody like that, y'all, she says, "but I'm not sure." "Do you know about his route that went through Winnie, Beaumont?" "He called me because he had to go to the Winnie Hospital." "Did you have a chance to record the conversation?" "Yeah, I recorded for Rathman who was with Woody." "You never met Woody? You don't know Woody?" "Yeah. I met him one time." "If Woody is in the courtroom right now, who's Rathman? Was that some kind of sidekick?" "Well, I met Woody one time."The truth of the matter is, y'all, that's when Jim was on the show and he actually had communications with her, and I told Jim to tell her to get him recorded, and she did. I drove through the night to meet her with Courtney's uncle that was the US marshal, and we got her cell phone with the recording on it and turned it over to police. That's the truth of the matter. That's where he said she was beat to death, and the family is going to be upset when they find out who did it and all that. Beat black and blue from the waist up. Burns had a blanket, his mom washed it. Lace and Burns did it for the money. Her body was black from the waist up. The…
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