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Episode #170: Daisy Torme & James Torme (Mel Torme, Janette Scott) (Part Two) Feb 20, 2024

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Today on part two of our encore episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we continue our conversation with guests Daisy Torme and James Torme. And that can only mean one thing: more great stories about growing up the children of The Velvet Fog, Mel Torme, one of the greatest voices in all Jazz history.

We speak to Daisy and James not only about their father but also their mother, actress Janette Scott. Terrific stories abound. We hear about spending the Summer in Los Angeles with their dad, a bonkers story about how their parents met and there's a heart-warming/hear breaking story about leaving their dad at the airport and returning home to England. Speaking of England, we learn more about their childhood as both their mother and grandmother Dame Thora Hild were nothing short of national figures in the U.K. I mean really, doesn't everyone's mother have an annual film festival in their honor or is namedropped in The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Isn't everyone's grandmother a three-time BAFTA winner? But what makes this episode so terrific in our view is how enthusiastic Daisy and James were to talk about their parents and how much love and affection they exuded in doing so. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story. Take a listen.

Episode #169: Daisy Torme & James Torme (Mel Torme, Janette Scott) (Part One) Feb 13, 2024

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Today on another encore edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking with Daisy Torme and James Torme, the children of singer/musician Mel Torme actress Janette Scott. This episode was a true pleasure to record as not only were there terrific Mel & Janette stories but also some great stories about out host, Josh's dad as well. You see Mel and Martin Mills were buddies from as far back as the fifties who were runnin' young guns in the entertainment business in New York during the Eisenhower administration. They formed strong bonds in their youth and it extended into old age…with some more-than-occasional bouts of silence for some misperceived slight or two.

In a sense, our conversation was a familial one as it felt like the next generation was reliving their parents together with stories about everything from photography to chocolate, from childish pranks to hanging with Buddy Rich and Sammy Davis Jr and much more. We talk "The Christmas Song", Mountain Dew, Night Court & even a little known movie of Mel's "Challenge to Survive" with William Shatner.

What began as a Twitter message to Daisy became a lunch, then another lunch and soon it became a full-blown Rarified Heir Podcast episode. So take a moment, set your internal clock back and let's take listen to Daisy and James Torme talk about their father, The Velvet Fog, Mel Torme. Lucky for you that this is only part one! Part two is next week! Everyone has a story.

Episode #168: Sam Nelson (Ricky Nelson, Ozzie Nelson, Harriet Nelson) (Part Two) Feb 06, 2024

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Today on Part two of our interview with Sam Nelson on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we talk about what it was like being the son of Rick Nelson and grandson of Ozzie & Harriet Nelson about growing up, well, Nelson. On part one we discussed with Sam how he became the keeper of the flame for the family business as the archivist & producer for the TV show & new DVD box set The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet. But on this episode, Sam opens up to us about all sorts of things. From the wonderful and exciting to the tragic and the spooky.

Sam grew up very much the stuff of tabloid fodder while just in elementary school. Imagine going to the supermarket and seeing your picture on the cover of People magazine or the National Enquirer. We get into it. We also get into some really terrific stuff as well. What was Rick Nelson favorite hobby? What was his favorite ice cream shop? A-ha…you are going to have to listen to part two for details on this hard hitting topic.

Plus, we learn about the history and the ghostly stories surrounding the Nelson household that are the stuff of legend. Once owned by another very famous Hollywood actor, Sam tells us some truly bizarre and hair (not heir) raising tales of this haunted house in the Hollywood Hills. Evidently, a famous pop star owns it now. Again, you are going to have to take a listen to this second episode of our interview with Sam Nelson on the Rarified Heir Podcast to learn more. We promise, it's another all-encompassing, honest, raw and intense episode. Take a listen.

Episode #167: Sam Nelson (Rick Nelson, Ozzie Nelson, Harriet Nelson) (Part One) Jan 30, 2024

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Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, it's part one of our interview with Sam Nelson, son of the great Rick Nelson, nephew to David Nelson and grandchild of Ozzie and Harriet Nelson If you grew up in America in the 1950s The Adventures of Ozzie & Harriet defined post War America. It was a massive hit and ran for 14 years. We take a deep dive into the restoration and recent release of the complete, 435 episode DVD box set of The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet. Beginning as a radio show in the 1940s (I betcha didn't know that!) & coming to television in the early 1950s. The Adventures of Ozzie & Harriet was the longest running, live action sitcom on American television until 2021 when It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia celebrated it's 15th year. To say that this show was part of the fabric of American life in the 1950s and today is part of it's lexicon would be an understatement. Perhaps no other show from that era is as well-known or beloved that didn't feature Lucy or The Beaver as this show.

On this first of two episodes, we spoke with Sam about the interest and hard work in being the sole heir of the Nelson clan that not only wanted to make something of this show after decades of semi-neglect but put in the time, the effort and the sweat equity to bring it back. It's no small effort as Sam tells us how, why and what obstacles he had in making sure that people not only knew the name Ozzie & Harriet but knew the show again in 2024.

Of course we speak about his father, entertainer & rock star Rick Nelson & uncle David Nelson who starred on The Adventures of Ozzie & Harriet and how Rick, then known as Ricky, single handedly brought rock and roll into America's homes. It was Rick, with his matinee idol good looks and spot on singing voice that perhaps kept this show on the air long after it likely should have petered out. And this is a topic that particularly interested host Josh Mills as legacies and archives are something he has been dealing with every day of his life for the past decade and a half.

This is the Rarified Heir Podcast and this is Part One of our interview with Sam Nelson. Take a listen.

Episode 166: Radames Pera (Lisa Pera / Leeza Vinnichenko) (Part Two) Jan 23, 2024

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Today on part two of our interview with Radames Pera, we continue our conversation with the former actor known best as Grasshopper from the TV-series Kung-Fu. Believe us when we say, we wish we had another hour or two with Radames to get to all the stories that make up his own story, that of his mother's story and that of his absentee father whose invention became a worldwide success that he unfortunately didn't patent it.

On this episode, we discuss the Coogan law, a law that if you don't know about you will get a crash course in this episode. Radames, like all child actors was protected under this law that was enacted in 1939 but was never totally enforced. We also learn through a YouTube video Radames posted about his mother actress Lisa Para whose addiction disorder became so acute, it had to be documented. Why? We discuss that on the episode and really we don't even scratch the surface due to time constraints. All we can tell you is, Radames has a healthy and wonderfully openness to plainly discuss some of the most personal stories from his life. And for that, we thank him. Take a listen to part two of our interview with Radames Pera on the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.

Episode 165: Radames Pera (Lisa Pera / Leeza Vinnichenko) Jan 16, 2024

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Today on the first part of a two part episode of the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are speaking to Radames Pera whose name you might know as well as that of his mother actor Lisa Pera. Because this episode is so jam packed – and we honestly didn't even get to half of the stuff we wanted to talk about- so we split this episode into two parts. On this episode, we discuss Radames' being a child actor in not one but two of the 70s most beloved television series. He is best known as young Caine or Grasshopper, if you like, in the series Kung Fu, a show that not only launched the martial arts craze but also a film that launched a global phenomenon that still resonates to this day. Radames also starred in Little House on the Prairie in a recurring role as John Jr.

Lisa Pera on the other hand, got her start in film and television as well, beginning in 1965 on the show Combat! in an episode directed by Vic Morrow. From there, she starred in films like The Hindenburg as well as shows like Perry Mason, Get Smart Man from Atlantis and even Hawaii 5-0 where she starred with Radames as his mother. Novel casting, that.

Radames pulls no punches (no pun intended) on this episode as we explore his life being raised by a mother too young and emotionally unequipped to deal with raising a child after a horrific childhood of her own. Being a Ukrainian -Russian finding herself in Nazi Germany and eventually the United States after WWII is jaw dropping stuff that doesn't seem real. Suffices to say, this Part one is a 'buckle up, it's going to be a bumpy ride' episode. But it's frankly just a palette cleanser for episode #2, coming next week. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.

Episode # 164: Nicky Trebek (Alex Trebek) Jan 09, 2024

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Today on this encore edition of the Rarified Heir Podcast we are talking to Nicky Trebek, daughter of Alex Trebek. Our conversation with Nicky was a fun one as host Josh Mills grew up on the same street as Nicky in the freewheelin' 1970s San Fernando Valley and as we discuss those years as a starting point and off we went. Along the way we had many wonderful tangents including what famous director and his actress wife lived on that street, the personal connection their parents had with the Italian Stallion – Sylvester Stallone & his first wife Sasha, the NHL hockey connection that Alex had when the Los Angeles Kings played their games at the Fabulous Forum, the allure of Leif Garrett*, what it was like working on & with her dad on the game show Jeopardy!, Nicky's mother Elaine who was a CBC broadcaster and even a discussion about fellow Canuck, comedian Eugene Levy whose impression of her dad on SCTV was letter perfect.

It was terrific to reconnect with Nicky as we learned so much about the icon as well as the father that was Nicky's dad. We learned what times were best for taping Jeopardy! if you wanted to eat dinner at home and the personal battle Alex Trebek fought after a pancreatic cancer diagnosis that took his life only a year and a few months after his very public announcement. It's one thing to be a fan pulling for Alex to get well, but it's quite another to hear about his private battle behind the scenes. This is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.

Episode #163 Rachel Haden (Charlie Haden) Jan 02, 2024

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Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast we'd like to wish you a Happy New Year 2024 with this encore episode for first episode of our third season. Our guest today is talking to musician Rachel Haden about her father, influential jazz bassist Charlie Haden. Rachel was kind enough to talk to us about so many things including her memories of growing up as a triplets and going for walks with jazz trumpeter Don Cherry when the Haden's lived in New York. This led us down the path of many other genres of music including country, punk, jazz, indie rock and much.more as the Haden's all sang and played instruments growing up. Thanks dad.

We learn about the Rachel's time on the road with Todd Rundgren, her band That Dog, Brendan Perry of Dead Can Dance as well as Beck, Jimmy Eat World, Neil Hamburger and more. While we were at it we also discuss jaco Pastorius, Ornette Coleman, Ry Cooder, Jack White, Mike Watt and others. It's a very fertile musical well we draw from when talking to a Haden family member like Rachel as there are so many avenues and styles of music she and her family are connected to.

The story spans 1930s Iowa where Charlie was part of The Haden Family Band, who rivaled the Carter Family in popularity in the Midwest and runs all the way to the 2020's with the release of Rachel's solo albums including making music with Charlie's son-in-law, comedian Jack Black of Tenacious D. If you are a fan of music, this episode is the one for you. Take a listen, on the Rarified Heir Podcast encore edition with Rachel Haden, coming up here.

Episode #162: Luke Yankee (Eileen Heckart) Dec 26, 2023

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Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast, we are talking to a Connecticut Yankee in Hal Prince's Court. And while that might not make sense to you now, believe me, it will after you listen to this episode with guest Luke Yankee. Son of Oscar winning actress Eileen Heckart, Luke talked to us about his mother with great affection as well as great humor. You see Eileen didn't suffer fools gladly and it made for some very pointed (but funny) asides which we read about in his book about his mother Just Outside the Spotlight and discuss here.

I ask you, on what other podcast can you hear first-hand accounts of both Soupy Sales and Elizabeth Ashley, Sophia Loren and Bette Davis as well as Marilyn Monroe and, you guessed it, Edie Adams? While Eileen's love was Broadway and she played roles in everything from Butterflies Are Free to Barefoot in the Park, it was her roles in films lie The Bad Seed and the film version of Butterflies that fans might know her best from After all, she did win an Oscar for the latter and was nominated for the former.

Along the way we discuss roles as Aunt Flo on The Mary Tyler Moore Show, her drive for normalcy in New Canaan for her children and family while in show business and maybe one of the most poignant stories we've ever heard on this podcast that frankly, unexpectedly choked us up. Along the way we hear stories about the randy George Segal, the 'bad boy' Jack Cassidy and the play that Luke will have produced about his relationship with his mother in February 2024. So sit back and take a listen to this episode is the Rarified Heir Podcast. Everyone has a story.

Episode # 161: Jenny Brill (Charlie Brill, Mitzi McCall), Shawn Kay (John Kay), Carnie Wilson (Brian Wilson, Marilyn Wilson) Dec 19, 2023

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Today on the Rarified Heir Podcast…we bring you something very different. Today, we mixed up our format and decided to bring on three previous guests who have been on the podcast individually to see how it would work when we brought them all together. It was a bold experiment. Today we bring you Jenny Brill, Shawn Kay and Carnie Wilson, three friends who have known each other (and our host Josh Mills) since they were in pedal pushers. We really did try and get off on the right footing here and ask the pertinent questions but frankly, with this jovial bunch, it quickly evolved (or is it devolved?) into a nostalgic trip through memory lane of 1970s Los Angeles, swearing and grade school antics.

As any listener to this podcast knows, we talk a lot about the Oakwood School in Los Angeles quite often and because that's where our guests solidified their friendship during the Carter Administration, this episode is one that gleefully goes off the rails almost from the word go. We discuss everything from the time Carnie and Shawn rode album covers down the carpeted stairs in the Wilson family home in Bel-Air, Jenny's 'on brand' observations about the opposite sex, long gone beloved pets, carpools, famous children we all went to school with and famous Oakwood parents and more.

There was a lot of laughter, a few tears, a few a-ha moments and more twisted humor than you could find at one of our quarterly lunches. Ah the Rarified Heir Podcast, bringing people together. So how did the children of Mitzi McCall, John Kay, Brian Wilson & Merilyn Wilson get along? In a word? Famously.

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