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    Ranking The Beatles

    Musician and self-described Beatles fanatic Jonathan Pretus ranked the entire recorded catalog of the Beatles, because he’s a big, big nerd. Then he decided to make a podcast to talk with other people and learn about their connection with The Beatles’ music.

    Tune in as Jonathan and his guests, joined by his co-host/wife Julia (a more level-headed, casual fan) discuss the rankings, what they think makes each song so great (or not-so-great), and see if it really is a fool’s errand to try and rank the music of the greatest band of all time.

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    #177 - She's A Woman with guest Kyle Melancon (drummer - Imagination Movers, Dash Rip Rock, etc) Mar 23, 2021
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    The morning of Oct 8, 1964, Paul came up with a song idea he was so excited about, he had the band work on it at their recording session that day. He saw it as a Little Richard-esque r&b rock tune, something they hadn't been able to write yet. The track, "She's A Woman," became the b-side for "I Feel Fine," but the band must've had a soft spot for it. It became a staple of their live show from the time of release until their final live tour date at Candlestick Park in 1966. It's certainly got some interesting elements to it, especially the intro and John's slashing guitar, but the rest of the song is maybe kind of lacking. John and Paul relished the chance to drop "turns me on," a drug reference, into a song for the first time, but how cool is it when it follows "My love don't buy me presents/I know that she's no peasant"? Returning to chat with us this week is our old pal and fellow Beatles uber nerd, Kyle Melancon, drummer for Disney's Imagination Movers, Louisiana Music Hall of Famers Dash Rip Rock, and Jonathan's bandmate in their 90s cover band supergroup, Big In The 90s. We touch on our relationship with Beatles b-sides and discovering the whole new world they contain, questionable live song choices, weird songs from Kyle's children's music band, and more! If you're into 90s music, check out Kyle and Jonathan's 90s cover band, Big In the 90s, and follow them on Facebook for livestream shows if you're not in the New Orleans area. What do you think? Too high? To low? Just right? Be sure to follow along, leave your comments, and join in on the discussion on the rankings at Facebook (facebook.com/rankingthebeatles), on Twitter at @rankingbeatles, and on Instagram @rankingthebeatles. Enjoying the show and want to show your support? Check out https://anchor.fm/rankingthebeatles/support to drop a coin in the tip jar!


    #178 - Octopus' Garden with The Beths Mar 16, 2021
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    Originally released March 16, 2021

    Sometimes, all it takes to write a signature song is...quitting your band. During a sabbatical from the tense White Album sessions of 1968, a trip on Peter Sellers' boat gave Ringo the inspiration for "Octopus's Garden." With a little help from his friends, George in particular, he was able to put together something that's incredibly charming and fun, and the last example of the band all pulling together to support their beloved drummer; it's a stellar performance all around, and a sonic gem, along with the rest of Abbey Road. As childlike and saccharine as it may be though, is it possible this is a much deeper song, where Ringo's really seeking out some shelter from the storm around him? Could this be his "Help"?
    We're joined this week by Liz Stokes and Jonathan Pearce, 1/2 of the New Zealand-based rock band The Beths. Their latest album Jump Rope Gazers, out now on Carpark Records, was in our top 3 albums of 2020, a literal constant quarantine companion. It's linked in our Linktree above. Over the last few years, their blend of propulsive, sing-along choruses, four-part vocal arrangements, and wry, introspective lyrics has earned them fans around the world, as well as opening slots for indie rock titans like The Breeders, Pixies, Weezer, and Death Cab for Cutie. We chatted on Mardi Gras day about all sorts of things, from very different Beatle-fan perspectives, and, in a podcast first, Jonathan admits that he maybe got his ranking wrong on this one.
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    #179 - Maxwell's Silver Hammer (with guest Sam Whiles, host of "Paul or Nothing" podcast) Mar 09, 2021
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    One of the most divisive tracks in the Beatles' catalog is another classic example of Paul McCartney being able to invent stories out of thin air, wrap them in insanely catchy melodies and arrangement, and somehow draw the ire of all of his band mates, and like, 50% of the general population. "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" gets a bad rap...if his bandmates hadn't literally trashed it in the press upon release (and on through the 2010s), or had it been recorded a couple of years earlier, would it be as divisive, or held up as a classic McCartney? Is it "classic McCartney/Beatles" if it's also something as many people genuinely hate as they do love? Is it...the perfect Marmite song?
    To discuss this and much more, we're joined this week by our pod-pal Sam Whiles, who hosts the all-McCartney podcast "Paul or Nothing." We touch on all manner of subjects in a wide ranging chat, from learning about the Beatles out of context, to writing songs like "Maxwell" as a big "f--- you," the need to get our paws on some Linda McCartney frozen dinners, and the fun of all these Beatles podcasts working together to continue the discussion of this music we love so much. You can check out "Paul or Nothing" on any podcast provider, and follow along on Twitter and Instagram.

    What do you think? Too high? To low? Just right? Be sure to follow along, leave your comments, and join in on the discussion on the rankings at Facebook (facebook.com/rankingthebeatles), on Twitter at @rankingbeatles, and on Instagram @rankingthebeatles. Enjoying the show and want to show your support? Check out https://anchor.fm/rankingthebeatles/support to drop a coin in the tip jar!


    #180 - Honey Don't (no guests, just us!) Mar 02, 2021
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    You can really chart the band's early growth with all the different versions of this Carl Perkins' tune. "Honey Don't" appeared in the band's live set in 1962, and found a home on the Beatles for Sale album. It made multiple appearances over the years on BBC sessions, and each time, it's done a bit different. The band's growth from rough and ready, garage rock band to seasoned, attentive recording artists can be tracked over these versions. And while Jonathan may find that interesting, Julia isn't sure that necessarily makes it a great song.

    That said, this week, it's just us! As we hit the round number of #180, we decided to take a look back and chart OUR growth, with a quick run down memory lane, recapping our list so far. We talk about how our thoughts on the band have been evolving over time doing this podcast, and discuss our current Beatle favs!

    What do you think? Too high? To low? Just right? Be sure to follow along, leave your comments, and join in on the discussion on the rankings at Facebook (facebook.com/rankingthebeatles), on Twitter at @rankingbeatles, and on Instagram @rankingthebeatles. Enjoying the show and want to show your support? Check out https://anchor.fm/rankingthebeatles/support to drop a coin in the tip jar!


    #181 - The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill (with filmmaker Paul Saltzman) Feb 23, 2021
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    In early 1968, the Beatles journeyed to Rishikesh to seek the fulfillment they realized they weren't finding in fame, drugs, money, and success. While the results of the trip on the group are debatable, there's no denying it provided them with tremendous inspiration for songs. One fellow student, and his mother, provided the inspiration for this Saturday morning cartoon adventure, "The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill." The song joins "Rocky Raccoon" and "Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da" in the category of story songs on The White Album that, while they may not be the most meaningful, impressive things the Fabs ever wrote, they sure are fun. This track also marks, literally the introduction of Yoko Ono into the audio version of the Beatles catalog, as her one line in here is the first and only time a lead vocal was ever sung by someone other than a Beatle.

    Joining us this week is Paul Saltzman, whose journey of self-discovery and heartbreak led him from civil rights worker in Mississippi to the Maharishi's ashram, and eventually, into the orbit of the Beatles. The photos he took of the band while at Rishikesh are some of the most beloved, catching the band creating, jamming, in thought, relaxed. He's also a long time producer and director, having produced Sundance favorites such as "Prom Night In Mississippi" and "The Last White Night," while still maintaining a foot in the world of activism with this non-profit organization Moving Beyond Prejudice, which garnered him an audience with, and recognition from President Obama. His most recent documentary is "Meeting The Beatles In India," and it's available for streaming at https://thebeatlesinindia.com.

    There is a moment of some poor connection around minute 16 we've done our best to correct. We think it's sounds OK, and appreciate your understanding.

    What do you think? Too high? To low? Just right? Be sure to follow along, leave your comments, and join in on the discussion on the rankings at Facebook (facebook.com/rankingthebeatles), on Twitter at @rankingbeatles, and on Instagram @rankingthebeatles. Enjoying the show and want to show your support? Check out https://anchor.fm/rankingthebeatles/support to drop a coin in the tip jar!


    #182 - Rocky Raccoon with Celeste Faia (PhD candidate in Microbiology and Immunology) Feb 16, 2021
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    Even though the Fabs had shown some affinity for country, it's on the White Album where they dive headfirst. Paul's turn at spinning a country story comes via "Rocky Raccoon," one of the numerous songs written by the band in India early in 1968. Leaning on a cheeky, twangy vocal, the tale of Rocky, Dan, and Lil has a bit of everything: a love triangle, a shootout, a drunk doctor who doesn't appear to actually help Rocky with his gunshot wound. Thankfully, he finds a Bible in his room and then....we don't know! Does he ride of into the sunset? Does he die? TELL US PAUL!

    This week, we're taking everyone to school, and keeping in it in the fam. We're joined by Celeste Faia, a PhD candidate studying microbiology and immunology, a budding casual singer and painter, and also, Julia's cousin, and one of our closest people. We thought it'd be fun to shine a light on science for a change, and boy do we. We discuss everything from the science of the Covid vaccine, the chemical results of the Beatles' drug use, entering the Beatles' catalog via the Anthology, a history of the Gideons, whether or not Rocky Raccoon is a cowboy dude, or a human-sized Raccoon-man hybrid. Also, Julia's tired all the time, and one time Jonathan was attacked by a raccoon. It's a wild time.

    What do you think? Too high? To low? Just right? Be sure to follow along, leave your comments, and join in on the discussion on the rankings at Facebook (facebook.com/rankingthebeatles), on Twitter at @rankingbeatles, and on Instagram @rankingthebeatles. Enjoying the show and want to show your support? Check out https://anchor.fm/rankingthebeatles/support!


    #183 - Drive My Car with Sean Nelson (ex-Harvey Danger, singer/songwriter, journalist, writer) Feb 09, 2021
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    As the opening track on Rubber Soul, "Drive My Car" represents the line in the sand in which The Beatles shake off their beat-group roots, and firmly enter a smokey, hazy world, influenced by the world they've conquered and toured, and made in their image. Their continuing love of R&B manifests itself in the bass driven tune, propelling a story of a would-be star persuading the narrator to be her "chauffeur" (nudge nudge wink wink say no more) before she even has a car. A great example of a fascinating and clever story in song. It's a great song for sure, and it's an important song in their oeuvre, but I've never really LOVED it.

    To help me figure out why, we're joined by Sean Nelson, the singer behind the beloved band Harvey Danger, who's late 90s hit "Flagpole Sitta" has grown to be one of the most enduring songs of that decade, with its sharp wit and singalong hooks. In addition to the 3 albums his band released, his own solo work, collaborations with other artists like Robyn Hitchcock and Death Cab for Cutie, he's also been the editor of Seattle's The Stranger newspaper, written a 33 1/3 series book on Joni Mitchell, acted in indie films, ran a record label, and, oh yeah, he's a HUGE Beatles fan. His most recent album is an absolutely fantastic collection of Harry Nilsson songs called Nelson Sings Nilsson, which we recommend you download/stream/buy as soon as you're done listening to this episode. Topics explored in this episode range from the adventures of starting a band, doing music on your own terms, working for pay versus being paid for your work, The Beatles being the blueprint for what a band should be, ugly crying at Paul shows, to a shared love of the Monkees, and all points in between.

    Non-Beatles songs included in this episode:

    Harvey Danger - “Flagpole Sitta” from Where Have All The Merrymakers Gone?

    Paul & Linda McCartney - “Backseat of My Car” from Ram

    Archie Bell & The Drells - “Tighten Up” from Tighten Up

    Harvey Danger - “Little Round Mirrors” from Little By Little

    Sean Nelson & Seattle Rock Orchestra - “Helter Skelter” (live)

    Sean Nelson - “Gotta Get Up” from Nelson Sings Nilsson

    What do you think? Too high? To low? Just right? Be sure to follow along, leave your comments, and join in on the discussion on the rankings at Facebook (facebook.com/rankingthebeatles), on Twitter at @rankingbeatles, and on Instagram @rankingthebeatles. Enjoying the show and want to show your support? Check out https://anchor.fm/rankingthebeatles/support!



    #184 - Wait with Micah McKee (singer/songwriter, host of American 100 podcast) Feb 02, 2021
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    To finish the break-neck recording sessions for Rubber Soul, the band dug back into the archives for the song "Wait," originally recorded and shelved during the Help! album soundtrack. A new overdubs, and voila! A fine album track, it's a great performance from all parties, but it also has a hint of the beat-group that the band had outgrown by this album, so it's got an interesting vibe of being a Help song in a Rubber Soul costume. One wonders if late 65 Beatles would've recorded this in the same style as early 65 Beatles, considering the growth they'd made personally, professionally, and musically in that year.

    Joining us to this week is singer/songwriter Micah McKee. Micah has been a fixture in the New Orleans scene for years, with the bands Little Maker, The Essentials, and on his own. He also hosts the American 100 podcast, a podcast that explores the music of America by way of the history of the Billboard Top 100 chart. On this episode, recorded on Inauguration Day, we discuss everything from the relief of welcoming in a new administration, getting into the Beatles via the right album at the right time, making an album on your own with total control, to Disco Duck and recording a podcast with a robot named Rando.

    Micah's new album "Abundences" will be out Feb 16th, and our episode features the tracks "Your Favorite Beatle" and "Someone Lost The Map." You can check out Micah's music at https://micahmckee.bandcamp.com and pre-order "Abundences" at http://www.campersrule.com/artists/micahmckee. Check out the American 100 podcast at Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you listen to podcasts.

    What do you think? Too high? To low? Just right? Be sure to follow along, leave your comments, and join in on the discussion on the rankings at Facebook (facebook.com/rankingthebeatles), on Twitter at @rankingbeatles, and on Instagram @rankingthebeatles. Enjoying the show and want to show your support? Check out https://anchor.fm/rankingthebeatles/support!


    #185 - The Night Before with singer/songwriter Ben Labat Jan 26, 2021
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    This week's song is an "all-Paul" track (writing-wise, at least John says it is) that found a home on the Help! film and soundtrack. On celluloid, the boys craft "The Night Before" in a field, surrounded by tanks and assailed by wind. In real life, they knocked it out in 2 takes in Abbey Road in February of 65, the track marking the first time we hear Lennon on keys, and a key part that drives the entire song. It's a fun, upbeat song that gives Paul a place to shine in the film, while the latin-tinged bridge section shows their growth and willingness to change gears completely. And while they're growing by leaps and bounds, part of the song still feels steeped in early-Beatles-beat-group land...a land they were fast escaping on this album. On a record which delivers classics like "Help!," "Ticket To Ride," and the classic of classics, "Yesterday," the growing pains on this song kind of stand out. But then again, it's '65 Beatles, so it's still fantastic.

    Joining us this week is Louisiana-based singer/songwriter Ben Labat. When Covid shut down touring, Ben found a way to help other musicians pay their bills while continuing to record with his Bayou Fever Sessions project, and also found time to write, record and release a ton of other music. His latest single, "Rocket Heart," is out now, and the video was just premiered January 16th on Ditty TV. In our chat, we touch on everything from finding ways to adapt during pandemic times, the benefit of creators having a partner to impress and keep their bar high, to passing the Beatles down to your own kids. You can check out Ben on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/benlabatmusic, his website http://www.benlabat.com/, and check out the video for "Rocket Heart".

    What do you think? Too high? To low? Just right? Be sure to follow along, leave your comments, and join in on the discussion on the rankings at Facebook (facebook.com/rankingthebeatles), on Twitter at @rankingbeatles, and on Instagram @rankingthebeatles. Enjoying the show and want to show your support? Check out https://anchor.fm/rankingthebeatles/support!


    #186 - Don't Pass Me By - Drummer Roundtable with guests Kyle Melancon and Andre Bohren Jan 19, 2021
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    There's an old joke...What was the last thing the drummer said before getting fired? "I've written a song..." Ringo first brought "Don't Pass Me By" to the Beatles when he joined the band in 1962. Not until the free-for-all spirit of The White Album in 1968 did the band agree to take up his jolly country tune, and when we say the band, we mean just Paul. Dueling sources place both Beatles behind the drum kit, strangely, and we're frankly not sure who it is because while it's messy enough to be Paul, it's weird and groovy enough to be Ringo . The song is filled with Sir Rich's trademark charm, and certainly adds to the sonic journey of the band's sole double album. Speaking of the band, The Band, it was their favorite track on the record, apparently.

    To discuss this track, we've brought back two of New Orleans' premier drummers...Kyle Melanon (Dash Rip Rock, Imagination Movers) who loves the track, and Andre Bohren (Johnny Sketch & The Dirty Notes) who does NOT. In our first in-person podcast, we discuss the pros and cons of being not quite professional, the difference singing versus being able to truly deliver a vocal, the weight of charm, and importance of letting your fiddle player tune up and make more than 1 pass on a track, while Julia drops a bomb that just may be the one overarching rule when it comes to The Beatles....

    What do you think? Too high? To low? Just right? Be sure to follow along, leave your comments, and join in on the discussion on the rankings at Facebook (facebook.com/rankingthebeatles), on Twitter at @rankingbeatles, and on Instagram @rankingthebeatles. Enjoying the show and want to show your support? Check out https://anchor.fm/rankingthebeatles/support!


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