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    Public Defenseless – Hunter Parnell

    Anyone paying attention can tell you that our criminal legal system is perpetuating cruelty and harm, but the complexity of the legal world overwhelms most people simply trying to get through another day.

    Public Defenseless explores the rot in the justice system and what we can do about it. Join host, Hunter Parnell, as he interviews top defense attorneys and criminal justice stakeholders from across the country as they pull apart the convoluted web of our criminal justice system.

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    441 | With Dems in Control, Will Virginia Finally Pass More Progressive Criminal Justice Policies? w/Rob Poggenklass and Bryan Kennedy Feb 05, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter spoke once again with Rob Poggenklass and Bryan Kennedy from Justice Forward Virginia. Last year, Justice Forward Virginia joined the show to discuss the 2025 criminal justice policies being floated in Virginia. Today, Rob and Bryan are here to discuss what the 2026 legislative session has in store for criminal justice reform in Virginia, and how things might be different now that the Dems control all three branches of government.

    Guest

    Rob Poggenklass, Executive Director, Justice Forward Virginia

    Bryan Kennedy, Public Defender, Fairfax County, Treasurer, Justice Forward Virginia

    Resources:

    Justice Forward Virginia 2026 Legislative Priorities

    https://justiceforwardva.com/issues-2

    Justice Forward Virginia Socials

    https://www.facebook.com/JusticeForwardVa

    https://x.com/justicefwdva

    https://www.instagram.com/justicefwdva

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDC0qXV1Mbx27ibJXgy28uQ

    Sign up for the ABA Public Defender Summit

    https://events.americanbar.org/event/12d07164-1011-4723-9352-e8e3168db945/welcome

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

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    440 | How Public Defenders Can Build Political Coalitions that Support Criminal Justice Policy Reforms w/Stephen Saloom Feb 03, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Stephen Saloom, the Director of Concerts of Indigent Defense. He joined the show to discuss Concerts for Indigent Defense and the share with us the lessons he has learned over a career of advocating for and passing criminal justice reform policies.

    Guest:

    Stephen Saloom, Director, Concert for Indigent Defense

    Resources:

    Learn More About Concerts for Indigent Defense

    https://concertsforindigentdefense.org/

    Sign up for the ABA Public Defender Summit

    https://events.americanbar.org/event/12d07164-1011-4723-9352-e8e3168db945/welcome

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    439 | The Lawsuit Challenging Louisiana's use of Slave Labor on Angola's Infamous "Farm Line" w/Samantha Pourciau Feb 02, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Samantha Pourciau of the Promise of Justice Initiative to discuss litigation they are brining to end the "Farm Line" at Angola State Prison. On previous episodes, the show has explored how Louisiana's mass incarceration system is rooted in the state's slave holding, colonial past. Few practices are more reminiscent of that past than the "farm line." This immoral practice forces men to labor in brutal, dangerous conditions for the sole purpose of sadistic punishment. Samantha joins the show to discuss their upcoming trial that aims to end the practice once and for all.

    Guest:

    Samantha Pourciau, Senior Staff Attorney, Promise of Justice Initiative

    Resources:

    Read the report

    Punitive by Design: The Farm Line at Louisiana State Penitentiary

    More Coverage on the Suit

    https://promiseofjustice.org/news/incarcerated-farm-line-workers-win-class-certification

    https://vimeo.com/877204358?fl=pl&fe=sh

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5fe0e9cce6e50722511b03cc/t/66fc02c82b34224736f02cf5/1743624596616/2024.09.30+RELEASE+Farm+Line+Class+Cert+Filed.pdf

    https://www.wwno.org/law/2026-01-13/angola-prison-farm-line-suit-becomes-class-action

    Read the Complaint

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5fe0e9cce6e50722511b03cc/t/66427a930927131a043029e9/1715632788191/21%2C+2023.12.15+AMENDED+COMPLAINT.pdf

    Find PJI's Socials

    https://www.instagram.com/justicespromise/

    https://www.facebook.com/promiseofjustice

    https://www.facebook.com/promiseofjustice

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMj-FFyyoOf-u0WbH-A6AGg

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/pjinola

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    438 | How to Build Emotional Intelligence Skills in Public Defense w/Ali Bloomquist and Cherise Fanno Burdeen PhD Jan 29, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Ali Bloomquist and Cherise Fanno Burdeen PhD about their new paper titled "Emotion First Theory & Practice: Emotional Intelligence as Foundational Infrastructure for Equity Practice." In it, Ali and Cherise detail the importance of making the development of Emotional Intelligence as something that public defender systems and organizations need to prioritize. Without a system based approach, public defender's alone cannot be expected to develop the emotional intelligence needed to meet the needs of the communities they serve.

    Guest:

    Ali Bloomquist, Public Defender, Co-Founder, EIDEIA Institute

    Cherise Fanno Burdeen PhD, Community Psychologist, Co-Founder, EIDEIA Institute

    Resources:

    EIDEIA Website

    https://www.eideia.org/

    eideiainstitute@gmail.com

    Register for the Webinar Here

    https://www.eideia.org/trainings

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Donate on PayPal

    https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ

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    https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home


    437 | The Cruelty is the Point: Immigration Detention Expansion Under the Trump Administration w/Aaron Reichlin-Melnick Jan 27, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by the American Immigration Council's Aaron Reichlin-Melnick to discuss a new report published by AIC. Over the past two years, the Trump administration has rapidly expanded the use of and capacity of immigration detention. Aaron joins to detail how this has happened, what might come next, and the best ways to prevent it in the future.

    Guest:

    Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, Senior Fellow, American Immigration Council

    Resources:

    Read the Report

    https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/immigration-detention/

    Contact Aaron

    https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/authors/aaron-reichlin-melnick/

    https://x.com/ReichlinMelnick?lang=en

    https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Donate on PayPal

    https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ

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    436 | The New York Laws that Could Chip Away at the State's Mass Incarceration Policies w/Thomas Gant Jan 22, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Thomas Gant, a Community Organizer with the Center for Community Alternatives. Thomas joins the show to describe three different bills pending in New York that could chip away at the impacts of mass incarceration.

    Guest:

    Thomas Gant, Community Organizer, Center for Community Alternatives

    Resources:

    Email Thomas

    tgant@communityalternatives.org

    Join the Coalition here

    https://www.communitiesnotcagesny.org/take-action

    https://www.communityalternatives.org/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

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    435 | How Alaska is Punishing American Samoans for Believing They Had the Right to Vote w/Alex Burness Jan 21, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Alex Burness of Bolts Magazine to discuss his recent piece of reporting on American Samoans in Alaska. Specifically, Alex walks us through the history that gave American Samoans passports, social security numbers, but no right to vote. From there, Alex tells the story of a small American Samoan community that is facing decades in prison for voting when everyone thought they had the right to.

    Guest:

    Alex Burness, Staff Writer, Bolts Magazine

    Resources:

    Read the Piece Here

    https://boltsmag.org/prosecuted-for-voting-american-samoans-alaska/

    Contact Alex

    https://boltsmag.org/authors/alex-burness/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Donate on PayPal

    https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ

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    434 | Why is a San Francisco Judge Threatening to hold the Public Defender in Contempt? w/Mano Raju Jan 20, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined once again by Mano Raju, the elected Chief Public Defender in the San Francisco Public Defender Office. Last time he was one the show, Mano explained why he decided to stop having his attorneys accept new case assignments on certain days of the week. Now, six months later, a judge has given the office an ultimatum: Accept new cases or be held in contempt.

    Guest:

    Mano Raju, Chief Public Defender, San Francisco, California

    Resources:

    Read the Order

    https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1SyOK2OVQobVjmnA99BL1tXOycjWvVMyD?usp=drive_link

    Coverage of the Office

    https://www.dailyjournal.com/articles/389343-sf-public-defender-faces-contempt-over-refusal-to-take-felony-cases

    https://sfstandard.com/2026/01/12/public-defender-manu-raju-crime-san-francisco-court/

    Contact Mano or the Office

    manohar.raju@sfgov.org

    https://sfpublicdefender.org/

    https://www.facebook.com/sfpublicdefender

    https://x.com/sfdefender

    https://www.instagram.com/sfpublicdefender/

    https://bsky.app/profile/manorajupd.bsky.social

    https://x.com/manorajupd?lang=en

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon

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    433 | How Pre-Trial Mitigation Can Save People From Incarceration w/Max Miner Jan 15, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Max Miner the Founder of Executive Treatment Solutions. At one point in his life, Max hit rock bottom. Suffering with drug addiction, he reached the point where it thought it would be a good idea to get into a shootout with police officers. In a moment of clarity, he put down the weapon and started his road to recovery. Thanks to the work of an attorney who understood the power of pre-trial mitigation work, Max was able to get sober and avoid jail time. Now, Max works with people, who like him, need non-carceral treatment plans to help them escape the criminal legal system.

    Guest:

    Max Miner, Founder, Executive Treatment Solutions

    Resources:

    Contact the Office

    https://exectreatmentsolutions.com/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    www.publicdefenseless.com

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    432 | How the Denver Municipal Public Defenders Interrupt the Punishment of Poverty w/Alex Flood and Dan Fitzgerald Jan 13, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Alex Flood and Dan Fitzgerald of the Denver Municipal Public Defender Office. Today's episode focuses on the holistic public defender model in the office that leans on the expertise of lawyers, social workers, and system impacted people to combat the City's efforts to punish poverty.

    Guest:

    Alex Flood, Public Defender, Denver Municipal Public Defender Office

    Dan Fiztgerald, Peer Support Specialist, Denver Municipal Public Defender Office

    Resources:

    Contact the Office

    https://www.denvergov.org/Government/Agencies-Departments-Offices/Agencies-Departments-Offices-Directory/Office-of-the-Municipal-Public-Defender

    daniel.fitzgerald@denvergov.org

    alex.flood@denvergov.org

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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