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    Public Defenseless – Hunter Parnell

    Anyone paying attention can tell you that our criminal legal system is perpetuating cruelty and harm, but the complexity of the legal world overwhelms most people simply trying to get through another day.

    Public Defenseless explores the rot in the justice system and what we can do about it. Join host, Hunter Parnell, as he interviews top defense attorneys and criminal justice stakeholders from across the country as they pull apart the convoluted web of our criminal justice system.

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    511 | God Forgives, Brothers Don't: The Long March of Military Education and the Making of American Manhood w/Jasper Craven Sep 01, 2026
    Show notes

    On this episode, Hunter spoke with Jasper Crave, author of the book God Forgives, Brothers Don't: The Long March of Military Education and the Making of American Manhood. While this episode takes us away from the world of Public Defense, this conversation is an illuminating look at how military education like JROTC, ROTC, and the Service Academies help shape American masculinity. By understanding the culture inculcated at these institutions, we are better able to understand how that hyper violent culture spreads to police departments and other young men around the country.

    Guest:

    Jasper Craven, Investigative Reporter

    Resource:

    Follow More of Jasper's Work Here

    https://x.com/Jasper_Craven

    Pick up a copy of the book Here:

    https://bookshop.org/p/books/god-forgives-brothers-don-t-the-long-march-of-military-education-and-the-making-of-american-manhood-jasper-craven/ff6d1cf46c2d9b69

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    510 | What are a Defense Lawyer's Ethical Obligations When They Use A.I.? w/Mason Clark Aug 27, 2026
    Show notes

    On this episode, Professor Mason Clark joins to discuss a new white paper he authored for the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers titled Parity in Practice: The Defender's Duty to Ethically Use AI.

    Guest:

    Mason Clark, Associate Professor of Law, St. Mary's School of Law, Texas

    Resource:

    Read the Report Here

    https://www.nacdl.org/Document/ParityinPracticeDefenderAIUse

    Contact Mason Here

    https://law.stmarytx.edu/academics/faculty/mason-clark/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    509 | How to Create Workload Standards for Public Defenders w/Malia Brink Aug 25, 2026
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    Since the release of the National Public Defender Workload Study, Malia Brink travelled the country helping Public Defenders create and implement workload standards. Now, she joins the show to discuss the new tool the Deason Center created to help Public Defenders create their own workload standards.

    Guest:

    Malia Brink, Policy Director, Deason Criminal Justice Reform Center, Southern Methodist University

    Resource:

    Deason Center Website

    https://www.smu.edu/law/centers-and-initiatives/deason-center

    Access the Workload Tool Here

    https://www.smu.edu/law/centers-and-initiatives/deason-center/work/news/articles/2026-7-28-workload-release

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    508 | Will Underfunding Push the Defenders Association of Philadelphia to Stop Accepting New Cases? w/Keisha Hudson Aug 20, 2026
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    In the last budget cycle, Keisha Hudson, Chief Defender of the Defender Association of Philadelphia, asked the city for $5 million. Instead, the city council and the mayor gave her office $0. Now, Keisha is looking at cutting back client services and even potentially refusing to accept new DUI and drug possession cases. On this episode, you will hear Keisha explain how this all happened and what comes next for the office.

    Guest:

    Keisha Hudson, Chief Public Defender, Defender Association of Philadelphia

    Resource:

    Defender Association of Philadelphia's Contact

    https://phillydefenders.org/

    https://www.facebook.com/phillydefenders/

    https://www.instagram.com/phillydefenders/

    https://x.com/phillydefenders/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    Subscribe to the Patreon

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    507 | Robin "Rocky" Myers was Wrongfully Convicted of Murder. Was his Defense Lawyer in the Ku Klux Klan? w/Leah Nelson Aug 18, 2026
    Show notes

    The State of Alabama sentenced Robin "Rocky" Myers to death after he was convicted of murder in 1994. Over the next 30 years, Rocky fought to prove his innocence, and with each passing year, the evidence of his innocence continued to grow. There was a lack of DNA evidence. Inconsistent witness testimony. Police and Prosecutorial misconduct. On top of all that, there were serious problems with the verdict itself. Taken together, these factors pushed Governor Kay Ivey to commute Rocky's death sentence. Yet, Rocky is still serving a life sentence. Now, our guest, Leah Nelson, is here to present evidence that Rocky's trial lawyer might have been in the Ku Klux Klan.

    Guest:

    Leah Nelson, Special Investigator, Alabama

    Resource:

    Justice 4 Rocky Website

    https://www.justice4rockymyers.com/

    Undisclosed Podcast

    https://www.undisclosedpod.com/seasons-cases/rockymyers

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/40VBEwOtdaO6suwPRx8SLa

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    www.publicdefenseless.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    506 | Pink Crime: How to Fight the Criminalization of Motherhood, Pregnancy, and Queer Identity w/Valena Beety Aug 13, 2026
    Show notes

    Hunter is joined once again by Professor Valena Beety. Valena joins the show to discuss her new book, Pink Crime: Fighting Against the Criminalization of Motherhood, Pregnancy, and Queer Identity. In it, she discusses the cognitive biases, junk sciences, and the systemic policies used to surveil, police, and incarcerate women and queer communities.

    Guest:

    Valena Beety, Professor of Law, Indiana School of Law

    Resource:

    Pick up a Copy of the Book Here

    https://thenewpress.org/books/pink-crime/

    Contact Valena

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/valenabeety/

    https://law.indiana.edu/about/people/details?name=beety-valena

    https://valenabeetyjd.com/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram: @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter: @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    505 | Will Automation Make it Harder to Keep Junk Science out of Court? w/Lisa Waters Aug 11, 2026
    Show notes

    Hunter is joined once again by Professor Lisa Waters to discuss her law review article, Automating Junk Science. In it, Lisa details a troubling trend where police officers are using automated technology to "verify" that gun matches a bullet found at the scene of a crime. The only problem? The underlying tool mark science is complete junk. How can defenders respond to this automation of Junk Science? Lisa offers a few insights.

    Guest:

    Lisa Waters, Professor of Law, CUNY School of Law, New York

    Resource:

    Read the Article Here

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5440637

    Contact Lisa Here

    https://www.law.cuny.edu/faculty-profile/lisa-waters/#profile

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram: @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter :@PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

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    Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show!

    https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    504 | By Helping Victims and Perpetrators, Domestic Violence can Be Solved Without Relying on the Criminal Legal System w/Liz Ortenburger Aug 06, 2026
    Show notes

    Hunter is joined by Liz Ortenburger, the CEO of Safe Nest. Liz and her team at Safe Nest operate a shelter and aid center for victims and perpetrators of domestic violence. As Liz sees it, the conventional approach to domestic violence, policing and incarceration, is simply insufficient to end the cycles of violence that lead to domestic violence. Liz joined the show to discuss the different approach Safe Nest takes to try and eradicate domestic violence.

    Guest:

    Liz Ortenburger, CEO, Safe Nest, Clark County, Nevada

    Resource:

    Check out Safe Nest Here

    https://safenest.org/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram: @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter: @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patreon: www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show!

    https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home

    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    503 | Why is the NDS Union on Strike? UPDATE THEY WON!! w/Ashley Munger, Katherine Shamsie, and Samantha Rudelich Aug 04, 2026
    Show notes

    Breaking news: As the evening of Aug 4, the NDS Union won a contract!!

    Hunter is joined by Ashley Munger, Katherine Shamsie, and Samantha Rudelich of the NDS Union. The union, representing NDS Harlem, NDS Detroit, and NDS Texas, have been on strike. Hunter sits down with them to discuss why they went on strike, what they hope to accomplish, and what management needs to do to end this strike.

    Guest:

    Ashley Munger, Staff Attorney, Criminal Division, NDS Detroit

    Katherine Shamsie, Staff Attorney, Criminal Division, NDS Texas

    Samantha Rudelich, Staff Attorney, Family Defense Division, NDS Harlem

    Resource:

    SUPPORT THE STRIKE FUND HERE

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-striking-legal-service-workers-n3x56?attribution_id=sl:ca61e32e-c420-4d6f-a848-cdde768cb52c&lang=en_US&ts=1785196351&utm_campaign=fp_sharesheet&utm_content=amp20_control&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=copy_link

    Follow the Union

    https://www.instagram.com/ndsunion/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    www.publicdefenseless.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    502 | How a Not Guilty Verdict in a Homicide Case Shows the Promise of Idaho's Statewide Public Defense System w/Eric Fredericksen and Doug Nelson Jul 30, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined once again by two guests from the Idaho State Public Defender System. Eric Fredericksen, State Public Defender, and Doug Nelson, Litigation Director, join the show to provide an update on the Idaho State System and to highlight a case that shows why the state wide system is better for the people of Idaho.

    Guest:

    Eric Fredericksen, State Public Defender, Idaho

    Doug Nelson, Litigation Director, Idaho

    Resource:

    Learn More about the System Here

    https://spd.idaho.gov/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show!

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


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