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    Christianity

    Proclaim Peace

    Welcome to the Proclaim Peace podcast! Co-hosts Jennifer Thomas, Co-Executive Director at Mormon Women for Ethical Government, and Patrick Mason, Professor at Utah State University, explore a peaceful reading of the scriptures by talking with guest experts who show us how to create peace in turbulent times. Subscribe to the show on YouTube or your favorite listening app and follow along at https://proclaimpeace.org/ for show notes and more resources.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Peacemaking in Wards: Conflict, Curiosity, and Belonging with Carri Hulet and Christopher Palmer Oct 20, 2026
    Show notes

    Carri Hulet and Christopher Palmer join Jen and Patrick to explore how peace is formed in the realities of ward life, where people are covenanted together, differences are unavoidable, and conflict can either fracture trust or deepen belonging. In this episode, they unpack the tension between avoiding contention and engaging honestly, especially in doctrinal, relational, and leadership settings. They also share practical ways leaders and members can create spaces where people feel heard, respected, and able to disagree without losing belonging.


    TIMESTAMPS:

    02:36 - Why wards are naturally conflict-prone

    04:00 - The ward as a laboratory for peacemaking

    06:41 - Why church assignment and unchosen community surprise outsiders

    09:08 - Why high stakes can lead to conflict avoidance

    12:36 - Deference, stewardship, and why problems roll upward

    16:41 - What is lost when a ward never shares dissenting views

    20:23 - How church structure, truth claims, and judgment shape conflict

    24:47 - Many true or good ways to do things in the ward

    28:29 - Curiosity, respect, and naming doctrine clearly

    33:28 - Different beliefs are not sins

    36:26 - Direct belonging language and the power of humor

    40:37 - Better preparation for ward councils and meetings

    43:37 - Modeling respectful disagreement at home and in church


    For full show notes and transcript, visit https://proclaimpeace.org


    Peacemaking 101 (from Restore) with Patrick Mason Oct 07, 2026
    Show notes

    In this special episode, we are sharing Patrick Mason’s workshop at the recent Restore event hosted by Faith Matters in September of 2026. He explains why conflict is normal, why contention is different from conflict, and how to start building a peacemaking toolkit instead of avoiding hard conversations altogether.

    In this session, he also invites listeners to think about one real conflict in their own life and begin with the first small step. The focus is not on solving everything at once, but on learning the language, methods, and inner habits that make peace possible.


    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:09 Why peacemaking matters

    05:14 Peacemaking 101: where to start

    09:01 Reframing conflict as an opportunity

    16:17 Seeing people as people

    20:19 Choosing your theory of change

    26:44 Cultivating inner peace


    For full show notes and transcript, visit https://proclaimpeace.org


    How Collaborative Peacemaking Turns Complaints Into Real Change with Bethany Brady Spalding Sep 22, 2026
    Show notes

    Bethany Brady Spalding joins Jen and Patrick to explore the story of the daughters of Zelophehad in Numbers 27 and what it teaches about peaceful problem-solving, courageous advocacy, and collaborative leadership. The conversation centers on how asking a thoughtful question, offering a solution, and trusting the process can help change systems without defaulting to anger or conflict.


    Timestamps

    3:52 - Bethany’s definition of peace: progress toward God’s vision

    5:26 - Discovering overlooked stories of women in scripture

    8:49 - The daughters of Zelophehad and their inheritance claim

    12:45 - Moses as a model for listening and responsive leadership

    15:07 - Finding possibility during seasons of change

    17:15 - Peaceful advocacy and creating space for women’s voices

    20:11 - Why collaboration strengthens peacemaking

    23:31 - Building community coalitions through the Health Access Project

    26:27 - Diane Nash and the power of a moral question

    29:10 - Pairing hard questions with practical possibilities

    33:35 - Navigating tension between preserving and changing systems

    39:12 - Why Bethany approaches injustice one issue at a time

    43:14 - Managing fear when speaking to power

    45:00 - Bethany’s pathway to finding peace


    For full show notes and transcript, visit https://proclaimpeace.org


    Navigating Power: The Stories of Vashti and Esther with Emma Addams Aug 25, 2026
    Show notes

    Emma Addams joins Jen and Patrick to explore the themes of peace, defiance, and civic engagement through the lens of the biblical stories of Vashti and Esther. They discuss how personal definitions of peace can shape one's actions and the implications of defiance in a patriarchal society. The conversation delves into the complexities of navigating power dynamics, the different theories of change, and the strategic use of managed compliance in effecting social change. They discuss the different forms of courage exhibited by both women, the importance of trust and proximity in relationships, and the complexities of navigating agency in a world with limited options.


    TIMESTAMPS:

    02:08 The Story of Vashti: Defiance and Consequences

    09:58 Esther's Entry: Navigating Power Dynamics

    15:50 Theories of Change: Inside vs. Outside Strategies

    21:16 Managed Compliance: A Strategic Approach to Change

    25:57 The Power of Listening

    29:09 Peacemaking: Vashti vs. Esther

    33:50 Navigating Agency and Peacemaking

    40:00 The Role of Trust and Proximity

    45:45 Faith and the Cost of Peacemaking

    51:20 Hope in Courageous Voices

    54:37 Finding Peace Amidst Conflict


    For full show notes and transcript, visit https://proclaimpeace.org


    Repairers of the Breach: Peace, Justice, and Isaiah 58 with Rev. Adam Taylor Aug 11, 2026
    Show notes

    Rev. Adam Taylor joins Jen and Patrick for a wide-ranging conversation about peace, justice, and the prophetic vision of Isaiah 58. He shares how his own faith journey, shaped by interracial family roots, the civil rights movement, and Black church tradition, led him to Sojourners and to a deep conviction that peace is more than the absence of conflict.The episode explores why justice and peace are inseparable, how Isaiah 58 challenges transactional religion, and what it means to become a “repairer of the breach” in both public life and personal discipleship.


    TIMESTAMPS:

    00:54 - Peace defined as wholeness and right relationship

    05:20 - The Jim Wallis course that led to Sojourners

    08:59 - Why peace and justice belong together

    10:06 - Biblical justice language: mishpat and tsedek

    13:13 - Isaiah 58 in context: exile and true fasting

    17:18 - Why injustice is structural, not just interpersonal

    24:15 - Moving beyond zero-sum thinking

    31:53 - Wages, land, labor, and other biblical justice issues

    35:32 - Pastoral advice for people resistant to justice language

    43:07 - How unjust systems advantage some and trap others

    49:57 - “Repairers of the breach” and the call to peacemaking

    52:48 - Breath prayer: “Be still and know that I am God”


    For full show notes and transcript, visit https://proclaimpeace.org


    Building Peace Through Welcoming the Stranger with Elizabeth Davis Edwards Jul 28, 2026
    Show notes

    Elizabeth Davis Edwards joins Jen and Patrick to share inspiring stories of community-led refugee support and explores how welcoming strangers aligns with faith, history, and peacebuilding. This episode emphasizes that peace is cultivated through everyday acts of hospitality, community effort, and faith-based compassion. It encourages listeners to look around their neighborhoods for opportunities to serve, love, and welcome "one more."


    Timestamps:

    00:00 - Introduction to peace and the deeper meaning of shalom

    04:15 - Afghan families in Greece and their transformative impact

    08:15 - The biblical call to remember and welcome the stranger

    10:45 - Abraham’s hospitality as a model for modern welcome

    13:01 - Reframing division through recognizing sacredness in others

    16:46 - How communities can surmount "othering" and embrace shared humanity

    23:29 - Gregory Boyle’s quote on human hospitality

    28:56 - Opportunities for faith communities to actively participate in peacebuilding

    33:31 - Personal peace amidst chaos and the importance of small, everyday acts of goodness

    38:13 - Addressing misconceptions about refugee support and community capacity

    44:24 - The faith perspective on resilience, hope, and trusting divine guidance

    48:21 - Recognizing that true peace comes from charity, hope, and divine power


    For full show notes and transcript, visit https://proclaimpeace.org


    What It Means to Be Chosen with James Patton Jul 14, 2026
    Show notes

    Jen and Patrick are joined by James Patton to explore the multidimensional nature of peace, emphasizing its relational and movement-driven aspects. Drawing from his rich spiritual journey and extensive experience in peacebuilding across cultures and faiths, James offers nuanced perspectives on community, faith, truth, and conflict. They discuss the Old Testament idea of a chosen people, how that relates to diverse faith groups today, and how to avoid conflict when believing in chosenness.


    TIMESTAMPS:

    [01:36] The theme of chosenness in the Old Testament — beauty and tension

    [04:55] Introducing James Patton — career in religion, conflict transformation, and global peacebuilding

    [08:45] Defining peace: relationship, mutuality, and progressive healing over harm

    [12:19] James's path to peacebuilding — Peace Corps in Paraguay and the power of community

    [15:02] Faith journey: from Catholic roots to Quaker practice and interfaith work

    [22:34] Two models of chosenness — zero-sum in/out vs. inclusive divine invitation

    [27:30] Case study: reducing sectarian violence in Pakistan by elevating identity rather than erasing it

    [35:41] Truth, religion, and peacebuilding — static vs. relational understandings of truth

    [41:06] Navigating simple and complex worldviews — how different people hold truth

    [46:34] Integrity in practice — restorative vs. punitive justice, and the difficulty of living your values

    [50:39] Where James finds peace — Wendell Berry's The Want of Peace and The Peace of Wild Things


    Find more show notes and transcript at https://proclaimpeace.org


    True Peacemaking Needs Both Fire and Compassion: Lessons from Elijah and Elisha with Sarah Perkins Jun 30, 2026
    Show notes

    Jen and Patrick are joined by Sarah Perkins to explore the profound ways stories shape our understanding of peace, justice, and reconciliation. They focus on the contrasting peacemaking styles of Old Testament prophets Elijah and Elisha. Sarah shares her journey as a writer, filmmaker, and peacemaker, emphasizing the power of faith, imagination, and human connection in transforming conflicts into moments of compassion.


    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction: The biblical and modern models of peacemaking

    (03:19) Elijah as a prophet of justice and the challenge of non-passive activism

    (07:44) The importance of speaking truth without contempt or dehumanizing others

    (11:27) How to be conflict-avoidant while still advocating for justice

    (15:35) The differences between Elijah's fiery approach and Elisha's humble miracles

    (20:14) The role of small acts of kindness in peacebuilding and social change

    (25:05) Using stories like "They that be with us" to expand moral imagination

    (32:10) Insights from international peacemaking efforts in Northern Ireland

    (36:29) The power of storytelling, especially in faith contexts, to foster hope

    (39:00) How children can inspire adults to love and imagine peace


    For full show notes and transcript, visit https://proclaimpeace.org


    The Courage to Disagree Respectfully through the Story of Jonathan and David with Marianne Viray Jun 16, 2026
    Show notes

    Marianne Viray joins Jen and Patrick to delve into the dynamics of conflict and peacemaking within leadership and society, drawing lessons from the biblical story of Jonathan, David, and Saul. They explore how leadership decisions can influence societal polarization and offer practical tools for engaging with leaders respectfully. The discussion emphasizes the importance of modeling civility and virtue in public discourse and provides strategies for individuals to break cycles of conflict. The conversation highlights the power of personal transformation, empathy, and community action in fostering a respectful and civil society.


    Timestamps:

    00:00 - Introduction: Peace in the context of biblical conflict resolutions

    06:39 - Navigating disagreement with leaders respectfully

    15:34 - Disagree Better: reducing polarization through leadership modeling

    23:17 - The basis of true peace: love, empathy, and recognition of human complexity

    30:12 - The power of small, intentional acts in societal peacebuilding

    38:32 - Engaging civility in city councils and local government


    For full show notes and transcript, visit https://proclaimpeace.org


    The Art of Reconciliation and Moral Imagination with John Paul Lederach Jun 02, 2026
    Show notes

    Jen and Patrick are joined for a profound conversation with conflict transformation pioneer John Paul Lederach, who shares deep insights on peace, reconciliation, and the power of moral imagination rooted in faith and human connection. They explore the story of Jacob and Esau, why reconciliation is a horizon more than an event, and the four ways to use moral imagination to achieve reconciliation.


    Main Topics:

    • The biblical story of Jacob and Esau as a model for conflict and reconciliation
    • Defining peace as relational, rooted in dignity, love, and justice
    • The concept of moral imagination as a tool for peacebuilding across long-standing conflicts
    • The importance of interior work, ongoing forgiveness, and relational transformation
    • Practical strategies: moving one step at a time, curiosity, creativity, and risking for peace
    • The interconnectedness of faith, community, and peace efforts
    • The role of hope and multigenerational perspectives in peacebuilding

    For full show notes and transcript, visit https://proclaimpeace.org


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