Poured Over

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Leila Mottley on NIGHTCRAWLING Jun 09, 2022

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"I really wanted to depict the ways that young Black girls are made adults by a culture that sees us as that. And I wanted to show the way that that pressure piles on and what it does to teenage Black girls, who are really often forgotten in our culture."

Nightcrawling is a powerful story of family, grief and justice with an unforgettable teenage narrator (and equally unforgettable author), and it's out now. Leila Mottley joins us on the show to talk about writing her first novel at 14, sibling dynamics, the importance of published Black authors, the portrayal of young Black girls in the media, gentrification in Oakland, and much more with Poured Over's host, Miwa Messer.

Featured Books:

Nightcrawling by Leila Mottley

The God of Small Things by Arundhati Roy

There There by Tommy Orange

Poured Over is produced and hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays).

A full transcript of this show is available here.

Tom Perrotta on TRACY FLICK CAN'T WIN Jun 07, 2022

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"Tracy never went away. So yes, you can say I'm bringing her back, but the culture kept her in circulation in a way that was really interesting to me, and at times a little alienating. It's like you create a character and, suddenly, she's played brilliantly by Reese Witherspoon, and in a sense, that becomes the public's image of the character — and I love that performance as much as anybody. But then Tracy got picked up by political journalists and by the internet as a kind of shorthand for an overly ambitious woman… In a sense she became a kind of touchstone and a shorthand and sometimes a bit of a stereotype, caricature, whatever."

Tracy Flick Can't Win is the first time Tom Perrotta (Election, Little Children, The Leftovers, Mrs. Fletcher) has revisited a character from one of his bestselling novels, and his timing couldn't be better. Tom joins us on the show to talk about comic (and counterintuitive) openers, why he returned to Tracy's orbit, how our own stories change over time, mental gymnastics, why he doesn't see himself as a satirist, adapting his work for the screen and much more with Poured Over's host, Miwa Messer. Featured Books: Tracy Flick Can't Win by Tom Perrotta Election by Tom Perrotta

Poured Over is produced and hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays).

A full transcript of this episode is available here.

Katie Runde on THE SHORE Jun 04, 2022

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"I missed it so much. And definitely didn't get it or appreciate the specialness of it, or this particular beauty of it … until you have to show up at a party full of strangers. And answer that, where are you from question so many times. I'm not sure I would have written this book, if I didn't have to do that over and over and over again, in so many different places." That's Katie Runde, riffing on the Jersey Shore; it's more than just the setting for her debut novel, The Shore, it's a character in its own right. Katie joins us on the show to talk about writing a coming-of-age novel for an entire family, homesickness, grief, sisterhood, jump-starting her own writing career with help from Jami Attenberg's #1000wordsofsummer + a Catapult class + a Tin House workshop, her literary inspirations for this book and much more with Poured Over's host, Miwa Messer. And we end the show with TBR Topoff book recommendations from Marc and his guest bookseller, Becky.

Featured Books:

The Shore by Katie Runde

Ask Again, Yes by Mary Beth Keane

Notes on Your Sudden Disappearance by Alison Espach

We Are Not Ourselves by Matthew Thomas

Goodbye, Vitamin by Rachel Khong

Wild by Cheryl Strayed

Poured Over is produced and hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays).

A full transcript of this episode is available here.

David Levithan on BOY MEETS BOY Jun 02, 2022

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"I was very, very unintentionally smart in that I started it as a short story, I genuinely believed it was a short story, which was good, because if I hadn't sat down and said, I'm now going to write my first novel I'd probably still be working on it, but because it was a short story that got longer and became a long story, and then became a novella. And then like, Oh, I'm writing the book that I want in the world, both as a person and as an editor." David Levithan's Boy Meets Boy is one of the most charming rom-coms we've ever read, and David joins us on the show to talk about his development as a writer and editor, the power of story, his creative process, his writing partnerships with Rachel Cohn (Dash and Lily's Book of Dares) and others, his literary influences, Heartstopper, what he's learned from his readers and much more with Poured Over's host, Miwa Messer. And we end the show with TBR Topoff book recommendations from Marc and his guest bookseller, Rhys.

Featured Books:

Boy Meets Boy (B&N Exclusive Edition) by David Levithan Every Day by David Levithan Answers in the Pages by David Levithan

Poured Over is produced and hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays).

A full transcript of this episode is available here.

Sarai Walker on THE CHERRY ROBBERS May 31, 2022

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"I didn't want it to be just a very overwhelming dark book. I mean, it has so much tragedy that I had to balance that I wanted to make it part of, you know, light and airy and fun and frothy and feminine to contrast with what's going to happen. I think there's power in that contrast ... I felt like it can't all be this very goth all the time, this very gothic world, the kind of fog-on-the-Moors kind of thing…" We were utterly thrilled by Sarai Walker's debut novel, Dietland—inspired in part by beauty culture and in part by Fight Club (yep, that one)—and we're delighted by her newest, The Cherry Robbers. Sarai joins us on the show to talk about sisterhood, love, marriage, romance, feminism, her literary inspirations (including Emily Dickinson and Kate Atkinson's Life After Life), and much more with Poured Over's host, Miwa Messer. And we end the episode with TBR Topoff book recommendations from Marc and his bookseller guest, Becky.

Featured Books:

The Cherry Robbers by Sarai Walker

Dietland by Sarai Walker

Life After Life by Kate Atkinson

Poured Over is produced and hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays).

A full transcript of this show is available here.

Steve Almond on ALL THE SECRETS OF THE WORLD May 28, 2022

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"And I had to actually give up and say, Okay, maybe I'll go to the grave not having written a novel, and I don't have to carry around shame about that. I can just do the kind of writing that I'm maybe better at or that it is my calling to do, and the moment I stopped putting so much pressure on myself and stopped making it a big ego drama about me, that actually opened up space in my creative life for me to enter the hearts and minds of all these characters who were all keeping secrets from one another." Steve Almond—bestselling author, co-host of The Dear Sugars podcast, writing teacher—has just published his first novel, All the Secrets of the World, and he joins us on the show to talk about revisiting California in the 80s, keeping empathy for all of his characters, his literary influences (including Kurt Vonnegut, George Saunders and Lorrie Moore), share some great writing advice, and much more with Poured Over's host, Miwa Messer. And we end this episode with TBR Topoff book recommendations from Margie and Marc.

Featured Books:

All the Secrets of the World by Steve Almond

William Stoner and the Battle for Inner Life by Steve Almond

Stoner by John Williams

Poured Over is produced and hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays).

A full transcript of this episode is available here.

Honorée Fanonne Jeffers on The Love Songs of W.E.B Du Bois May 26, 2022

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"I'm always coming back to Chicasetta, in the same way that Ernest Gaines always comes back to Bayonne parish. And William Faulkner always comes back to that county that I cannot pronounce, your top or whatever it is, right. You know, in the same way that Louise Erdrich returns to the particular reservation, I'm always coming back to these characters." Finalist for the National Book Award, poet Honorée Fanonne Jeffers has conjured an epic and indelible story of an American family with The Love Songs of W.E.B. Du Bois; beautifully written, it's a story we never wanted to end (and you won't either). Honorée joins us on the show to talk about love and home and family, the legacy of slavery, colorism, feminism, writing about Black joy, Lucille Clifton, and much more with Poured Over's host, Miwa Messer. And we end this episode with TBR Topoff book recommendations from Marc and his bookseller guest, Becky.

Featured Book:

The Long Songs of W.E.B Du Bois by Honorée Fanonne Jeffers

Poured Over is produced and hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays).

A full transcript of this episode is available here.

Akwaeke Emezi on YOU MADE A FOOL OF DEATH WITH YOUR BEAUTY May 24, 2022

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"I had a dream about them. I have like these really cinematic dreams. And I woke up from this one. And I was like, this is a fantastic, messy little story, this is a love triangle that I want to read about. I want to—as a reader, as a viewer—I want to see this play out. And the only way I could get it to play out was to you know, write it." Critically acclaimed author Akwaeke Emezi (Freshwater, The Death of Vivek Oji, and Pet, among other novels) delivers a page-turning modern romance in their fabulous new novel, You Made a Fool of Death With Your Beauty. They join us on the show to talk about their love of romance novels and belief in love at first sight, grief and growing up, celebrity and food, fun and sex, their own work in the visual arts, the writers and artists who inspire them, and much more with Poured Over's host, Miwa Messer. And we end the episode with TBR Topoff book recommendations from Margie and Marc.

Featured Book:

You Made a Fool of Death With Your Beauty by Akwaeke Emezi

Poured Over is produced and hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays).

A full transcript of this episode is available here.

Candice Millard on RIVER OF THE GODS May 21, 2022

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"…You have to have so much primary source material that you are drowning, you think you can never get through it all. That's the only way you get dialogue, you get all those details, you know, that really make you feel like you're there and kind of at you just like sinking into the story and forgetting everything else." We'll follow bestselling author Candice Millard anywhere at any time—her latest book, River of the Gods, takes us on the epic search for the head of the Nile River with Sir Richard Burton, John Hanning Speke and Sidi Mubarak Bombay, the man who helped them succeed (and stay alive). Candice joins us on the show to talk about the stories and the characters behind "one of the greatest mysteries in this history of human exploration," her field research and writing process, human nature, disease and disaster, the writers who've inspired her and much more with Poured Over's host, Miwa Messer. And we end this episode with TBR Topoff book recommendations featuring Marc and his bookseller guest, Erin.

Featured Books:

River of the Gods by Candice Millard

The River of Doubt by Candice Millard

Poured Over is produced and hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays).

A full transcript of this episode is available here.

Emma Straub on THIS TIME TOMORROW May 19, 2022

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"That was really what I wanted to get at. The relationships that you have with the people who you love so much, and who you're so close with that you don't have to talk to them all the time." All of Emma Straub's novels have big beating hearts, no matter who or what or where or when she's writing about. This Time Tomorrow is her "autobiographical time travel novel" and it's an absolute delight. Emma joins us on the show to talk about why she writes, giving herself permission to try something new, how she set her rules for time travel (and how she stays grounded), her horrifying teenage diaries, bookselling and much more with Poured Over's host, Miwa Messer. And we end this episode with TBR Topoff book recommendations from Marc and bookseller guest Becky.

Featured Books:

This Time Tomorrow by Emma Straub

Laura Lamont's Life in Pictures by Emma Straub

The Colossus of New York by Colson Whitehead

Desperate Characters by Paula Fox

Poured Over is produced and hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. Follow us here for new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays).

A full transcript of this episode is available here.