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Henry on his potential next matchup.
Debating the Pound for Pound ratings.
Credit where credit is due: Jake Paul 🫡
Don’t overlook Saturday’s fight night (or super early morning?): Yan vs Figueiredo
And finally, a visual trip through UFC’s past inspired by one of the greatest photos ever taken in the ring.
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0:00 - Intro
00:15 - Henry vs. Dominick Cruz Drama
05:15 - P4P Rankings
13:00 - Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul & Potential Next Fights
21:15 - UFC Macau
25:15 - Greatest UFC Photos of All Time
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It was a massive weekend for combat sports and fight announcements to close out 2024. Henry and Kamaru break down the highlights of UFC 309; from Jon Jones' lethal spinning back kick to Charles Oliveira clinical performance, Michael Chandler's classic grit.
The guys also get into Mike Tyson's performance and what's next for Jake Paul... Canelo, Francis Ngannou, Beterbiev?
Two big Welterweight fights were also made this week. Ian Garry and Shavkat Rakhmonov will square off at UFC 310, followed by a Covington and Buckley Main Event the very next week on fight night.
The guys get into it all. Enjoy.
0:00 - Jones vs. Moicic
16:30 - Oliveira vs. Chandler
26:30 - Nickal vs. Craig
43:30 - Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul
52:15 - UFC 310: Garry vs Rakhmonov
56:40 - UFC 310: Buckley v Covington
1:00 - Question From a Casual
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UFC 309, Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson, Kamaru vs. Shavkat?? || Pound 4 Pound Kamaru Usman Henry Cejudo Thank you UnderDog Fantasy for sponsoring the show. All new users can earn up to $1,000 in bonus cash on their first deposit and will receive a Aaron Rodgers Pick 'Em special for Sunday's game. Support the show by using code "P4P" when signing up: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-pound4-pound Make sure to subscribe and follow the show for new weekly episodes. Follow the Show on Social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pound4pound/ Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Pound4poundshow Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pound4pound.podca?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc A Shadow Lion Production.
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The Gypsy King Tyson Fury joins the guys this week - talking everything from his upcoming rematch with Usyk, the upside to boxing sanctions, Dana White, Francis Ngannou, and taking easy fights for big money. And...karaoke...?
Stay tuned for an impromptu catch-up between Kamaru and Henry... Belal's toe, what's Kamaru doing out in Denver? How does Henry respond to the Chito Vera and Brandon Royval callouts? And to close it out, the boys build their perfect fighter with the active UFC roster.
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Iron Mike Tyson joins Pound 4 Pound to talk about his fight preparation for the upcoming match against Jake Paul, fear-based motivation, the state of modern boxing, and more.
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00:00 - Intro
3:30 - Fear
12:00 - Age is just a number
15:50 - Fighter Mindset
19:00 - State of Boxing
23:30 - Tyson's Top 5
26:15 - Fighting Friends
30:00 - The Toad
33:00 - Mike's Advice
41:20 - Message for Jake
42:00 - The Debrief
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UFC 308 brought the HEAT and the guys dive into the main card fights and waste no time getting into what's next for the fighters who showed Saturday night in Abu Dhabi. From Topuria's case for Fighter of the Year, Shara's double backfist knockout (!!!) and Adesanya callout, Chimaev's domination over Whitaker and what it means for his journey to the title shot.
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00:00 - Intro
3:00 - Topuria vs. Holloway Breakdown
6:00 - Topuria FOTY?
10:30 - Next Matchup for Ilia...
18:00 - BMF Debate
22:15 - Whitaker vs. Chimaev
28:00 - Defensive Debate...
33:25 - Ankalaev vs. Rakic
36:00 - Henry Changes His Pereira Take
38:20 - Ige vs. Murphy
40:10 - Magomedov vs. Petrosyan
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Quinton Rampage Jackson keeps it 100. The first unified champ sits down with the boys to talk openly about pretty much everything...
The early days of Rampage's fight career (and how he found out that high school wrestling and WWE didn't have the same rules). Getting arrested in the airport on his way to his first professional fight in Japan. The beginning of the chain, and the howling. Buying himself out of his UFC contract. Having kids. Learning how to act.
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00:00 - Intro
12:30 - Early Days of Rampage
18:00 - Rampage vs. Fan?!
19:30 - Airport Arrest!?
23:40 - First Unified Champion
28:40 - Birth of the Chain
32:45 - Bellator vs. UFC
37:00 - Rampage the Dad
39:10 - Rampage the Bachelor
40:10 - "I'm Divorced, $500,000 Down."
41:10 - Business Ventures
44:00 - Acting Career
50:00 - One Last Fight: Jon Jones
53:00 - Top 5 All Time Best Fighters
55:00 - Tope 3 All time Worst Fighters
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Big bonus episode from the P4P gang today. Kamaru addresses the Belal scenario, a full 308 preview, and a reaction to Francis Ngannou absolutely dominating in his PFL title fight Saturday night.
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00:00 - Intro
01:00 - Kamaru Addresses Belal
05:00 - Topuria vs Holloway
15:00 - Whittaker vs. Chimaev
20:00 - Murphy vs. Ige
23:00 - Ankalaev vs. Rakić
28:30 - Magomedov vs. Petrosyan
31:30 - Neal vs. Dos Anjos
37:30 - Francis Ngannou PFL Domination
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"I am charged with creating the soundtrack for the professional lives of these fighters. That is my focus. I want to make every championship call count."
That about sums it up. Jon is arguably the most recognizable voice in mixed martial arts, with the most called fights in history of play by play commentary. His tenure with the UFC has spanned over a decade. Translation: if you can remember it, Jon most likely called it.
And we guarantee he remembers it too. Anik isn't just a pillar in the UFC's success, he's like a walking UFC encyclopedia. Seriously, listen to him effortlessly recall dates of knockouts like he's mf Mike Ross.
This one gets into the passion (and sacrifice) it takes to be the soundtrack to the world's top fighters. How much of Jon's ability comes down to preparation vs. natural ability? What's his relationship with DC and Rogan like? What're his favorite knockouts? How about the best crowd he's ever been apart of?
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00:00 - Intro
04:00 - Trolling: Fine Line
15:30 - Underdog Promo
16:20 - Jon Anik; Origin Story
19:20 - Juggling Priorities
25:00 - Soundtrack of UFC
28:00 - Anik's Top UFC Moments
31:45 - Preparation
34:15 - Most Electric Crowd
35:11 - DC and Joe Rogan
37:20 - Brotherly Love
45:00 - The Debrief
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The War Horse Khalil Rountree Jr.
As Dana White said himself about Rountree’s performance at UFC 307; you can’t measure heart. Maybe true, but we can certainly appreciate it.
Khalil just went toe to toe with the deadliest man in Light Heavyweight, and for 2.5 rounds it felt like we might see an upset in Utah…
Here it is, straight from the War Horse’s mouth.
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00:00 - Intro
04:00 - Championship Rounds
06:00 - Tactical Changes
09:30 - Khalil’s Mindset
14:30 - What Makes Poatan Different
17:00 - P4P Debate
22:30 - What Now Khalil?
26:30 - Light Heavyweight Matchup Talk
33:30 - Debrief
38:00 - Porier’s BMF suggestion
40:30 - Question from a Casual
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Kamaru Usman and Kayla Harrison go way back, and now the two friends sit down at the studio to chop it up in a conversation goes all over the map, in the best way possible.
Topics range from weight cut secrets like daily low steady state, Kayla's take on the UFC, her first fight against the legendary Holly Holm, and post-fight lows that most of us fans don't get to see. More specifically to that last point, Kamaru gives us a direct look into what happened in the hours after the infamous head kick; not just how it effected him, but how it impacted his little one as well.
Both Kamaru and Kayla are parents. If you weren't already aware of the unique circumstances that brought Kayla into parenthood, this episode will shed some light on the type of human she is beyond the gold medals and dominant combat career.
Kayla is kind, down to earth and, perhaps most obvious to whoever is reading this, a total badass. She and Kamaru go deep on a number of life subjects. This one is insightful - an unedited look into the minds, character and friendship between two of the UFC's most decorated fighters.
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00:00 - Intro
1:30 - Sparring Days
3:10 - Weight Cuts Secrets
13:10 - Kayla’s Take on UFC
21:45 - Post Fight Blues
26:45 - Parenthood
33:00 - Uncle Ali & Life Lessons
40:00 - Kids can be Scary
44:20 - Unconditional Love
45:10 - BTS of the Head Kick
48:30 - What We Do vs. Who We Are
52:00 - Ketlen Vieira Fight
52:45 - Kamaru’s Advice
57:50 - Nickname Trivia!!!
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Kamaru and Henry catch up on family life before breaking down the stacked 307 card. Stay tuned for Kayla Harrison in studio later this week.
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00:00 - Intro
00:30 - Catching Up
1:20 - Family Life
7:15 - Underdog Fantasy
9:10 - McGee vs. Means
11:30 - Esparza vs. Pennington
13:15 - Spann vs. Saint Preux
15:15 - Almeida vs. Potieria
18:10 - Hubbard vs. Hernandez
20:00 - Rodriguez vs. Lucindo (it's an "i")
22:15 - Thompson vs. Buckley
26:50 - Dolidze vs. Holland
30:55 - Vieira vs. Harrison
37:40 - Pennington vs. Peńa
41:25 - Pereira vs. Rountree
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Daniel Cormier in the studio this week. In a one sentence summary: DC is an all around great human being.
He, Kamaru and Henry have a long history, and this hour-long conversation shows you just how much shared respect these three champions have for one another.
The guys hit it all in this one. DC's time as an NCAA and Olympic force, and the inspiration he was for budding fighters...Henry Cejudo and Kamaru Usman included.
The Cael Sanderson rivalry, or lack thereof, as DC might say. DC's perspective on missing the 2008 Olympics and how it changed his life forever. Deeper on that subject, how does luck, motivation and preparation come together to breed success.
How does showmanship and celebrity change fighter trajectory in the UFC? Speaking of celebrity: Jon Jones. DC discusses the impact that the 'baddest man on earth' (Dana's words) had on his career, we talk Jones' upcoming fight against Stipe, and where the reigning reigning Heavyweight champ sits among global athlete superstars.
DC's palpable friendliness and positivity is even more appreciated when you understand the hardships he carries with him. He opens up about the loss of his daughter, and the mindset and compartmentalization necessary for surviving the heaviest of losses.
Humans at DC's level have a special drive that never fully leaves them. He shares how that drive for growth has translated into life beyond the octagon.
We close this one with some much deserved words of appreciation from Kamaru and Henry - and from all of us fight fans. Thank you, DC.
Enjoy!
00:00 - Intro
3:00 - Uncle DC
6:30 - NCAA and Olympics
10:40 - DC inspires young Kamaru
16:20 - Fake Drugs, Bad Business
20:00 - Cael Sanderson
23:50 - Great Circumstances
26:20 - Tall Guys Fall Harder
33:00 - Public Persona
41:30 - Jon Jones Rivalry
45:10 - Jon Jones = MJ???
48:30 - Words for Francis
51:20 - Brotherly Love
56:00 - What drives DC
1:01:30 - Flowers for DC
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Umar Nurmagomedov. If you've been living under a rock... jot that name down. Henry knows more about the bantamweight division than just about anybody and he'll be the first to tell you: Umar is a bad MF.
On the agenda: fighting on the world stage as a Nurmagomedov, and what's it like to have the 'Khabib' advantage?
How did Umar feel about his 5-rounder against world #4, Kamaru's good friend and training partner Cory Sandhagen?
We also get Umar's prediction for Merab vs. Suga (with the advantage of 20/20 hindsight). And, what's the rising star think about all these Bantamweights ducking him?
The best base for a transition into MMA. The future of the legendary Nurmagomedov gyms. Surpassing Khabib’s records. Tons of good stuff in here.
Enjoy.
00:00 - intro
01:00 - #1 Big Last Name
04:30 - Five Rounds with Cory Sandhagen
10:30 - Suga vs. Merab Prediction
14:20 - Khabib Advantage
19:10 - Next Up: Umar
23:00 - Love of Fighting
27:40 - Underdog Fantasy
28:40 - Ducking Umar
36:50 - Khabib's Training Legacy
38:00 - Best MMA Base
39:00 - Henry's & Kamaru's Words for Umar
45:20 - The Debrief
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UFC 306 REACTION: Down Goes Suga Sean O'Malley + Canelo vs. Berlanga || Pound 4 Pound with Kamaru Usman & Henry Cejudo
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Merab Dvalishvili is a world class fighter, internet troll, and all around likeable guy. He sits down with P4P before his UFC 306 Title Fight at The Sphere against Sean O'Malley.
The guys get into modern day internet trolling in the UFC - an art that has transcended language barriers and builds rivalry narratives. Remember when Henry learned like two words of Russian to sh*t talk Merab, and Merab went full Mexican pride on stage? Times were so much simpler back then... but really, who doesn't love a good twitter war or tiktok skit.
On a more serious note, a big debate on early stoppages and referee interjections ensues. There's been a few referee debacles this year to say the least. In all fairness, the P4P team couldn't even agree on a perspective... though that's pretty typical for us over here.
So, what if Merab wins? Umar, a trip up to his friend Ilia, a rematch for Triple C? We cover it.
Closing remarks from Henry with some insider tips and tricks from his experience with Suga, and then a good ol' debrief with the guys.
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00:00 - Intro
1:30 - Elephant in the Room
5:24 - Suga Sean Fight
11:46 - Troll Recognize Troll
19:40 - Avenging Aljo
21:30 - Premature Stoppages...a Debate
28:30 - Underdog Fantasy
33:14 - Merab on Umar
40:29 - The Cut
44:30 - Merab on Ilia
48:19 - Final Words for Suga Fight
50:20 - Rematch???
51:00 - Debrief
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Today's bonus episode features the one and only: SUGA Sean O'Malley. And it doesn't even take a full minute for the sh*t to hit the fan...
Watch and see for yourself.
After what might be the fastest interview in UFC history, Henry airs it all out. For conciseness' sake, we'll title that section a breakdown of the Sean vs. Merab bout, but enjoy all of the extra drama that comes along with it. Unshockingly, Kamaru and Henry have two different predictions for the title fight at UFC 306 Riyadh Season Noche.
Henry also has some big news about his plans for Flyweight - a sure thing unless one potential scenario comes out of this weekend...
After a wild first 15, we get into the rest of the Main Card at UFC 306, where our cohosts continue to battle back and forth on predicted outcomes. Who you riding?
Special end segment dedicated to Canelo and Edgar Berlanga who also fight this weekend for Mexican Independence day. You heard it from Kamaru first; Saturday night is a fight fan's dream.
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00:00 - Intro
00:20 - Suga Sean
01:00 - Uhhhh...
01:50 - Henry Sean Beef
04:00 - Henry's Move to Flyweight
4:40 - Sean vs. Merab Breakdown
14:25 - Alexa Grasso vs. Valentina Shevchenko
19:56 - Brian Ortega vs. Diego Lopes
24:40 - Daniel Zellhuber vs. Esteban Ribovics
27:20 - Ronaldo Rodriguez vs. Ode Osbourne
30:48 - Irene Aldana vs. Norma Dumont
33:05 - Feature and Early Prelims
36:00 - Underdog Fantasy Sports
37:10 - Alvarez vs. Berlanga PPV Breakdown
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We're back with another episode and even more antics... shirts optional this week.
There's been a LOT of chatter around the Welterweight division, and even a...country song diss track?!? Kamaru takes time to address the rumors. We'll let him do the talking on this one.
Last week, Henry was clipped in an interview considering a venture back down to flyweight - Kamaru's got some questions, Henry's got some words for the Flyweight division.
Catching up on things outside the Octagon, Henry is underway with construction of his Arizona duplex, and Kamaru's African Knockout Championship held its 5th Fight Night of the regular season last weekend. AKO talent continues to grow as one AKO fighter, Josias Musasa, was just invited to compete in Dana White's Contender Series.
And, of course, a look at this weekend's UFC Fight Night Burns vs. Brady. For the main and co-main events it's a tale of experience vs. the hungry contender. Spoiler alert, the guys aren't seeing eye to eye on this one.
Enjoy!
00:00 - Intro
00:30 - Henry's Duplex Plans
02:10 - African Knockout Championship
05:40 - Henry's Thoughts On a Flyweight Return
08:20 - Kamaru Addresses Welterweight Drama
12:55 - Underdog Picks
14:20 - Burns vs. Brady
20:40 - Silva vs. Andrade
24:20 - Questions from a Casual
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Edgar The Chosen One Berlanga faces off against Canelo Alvarez in a title match that has multi-belt implications for the Super Middleweights.
Berlanga is the undefeated WBA #1 Super Middleweight. 22-0-0 with 17 KO’s, 16 of which came in consecutive first round knockouts. Brooklyn Born from Puerto Rican parents, his heritage plays perfectly into the storied Mexico vs Puerto Rico boxing rivalry. Just in time for Mexican Independence Weekend September 14th.
Saul Canelo Alvarez is, well, Canelo. Pound-for-pound great, 4 division champ, Mexican super-star, a generational talent who many would call the face of modern boxing. He puts his unified WBA, WBC and WBO belts on the line against Berlanga.
Last week we heard from Canelo, now it’s time to talk with the young contender.
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00:00 - Intro
1:30 - Expect Fireworks
4:00 - The Climb
5:10 - Lessons From Munguía
8:30 - No Compassion, No Respect
10:20 - Locking In
14:00 - What Makes Edgar Berlanga Different
17:00 - Father's Influence
20:00 - What Happens if "And New..."
21:20 - Underdog Fantasy - Massive Offer
24:00 - 36 Minutes, Change My Life
29:30 - Press Conference Sh*t Talk
30:00 - Fat Joe
33:00 - UFC PPV Rivalry
36:00 - Final Words for Edgar
36:55 - Debrief
39:00 - Debating Biggest Boxing Upsets
43:20 - Dream Driven vs. Experience
44:10 - Kamaru's Take
46:15 - Henry's Take
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CANELO ÁLVAREZ on Pound 4 Pound.
Canelo joins Kamaru and Henry on P4P just 3 weeks out from his title fight against the undefeated WBA #1 contender, Edgar Berlanga. The two Super Middleweights enter the ring with Canelo’s unified WBC, WBA and WBO world titles on the line.
First thing’s first - let's clear the air between Kamaru and Canelo, the boxing match that never was (despite a less than friendly twitter exchange between the champs).
And then the guys hit a few hot topics… Why Edgar Berlanga? And, going deeper, a look at the historic practice of “champion’s discretion” when it comes to boxing superstars selecting their next opponent.
What’s it take to excel on the business side of boxing? Also on the docket are David Benavides, Terrance Crawford, and weight class respect... speaking of weight class, is Canelo open to a jump back up to 175?
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00:00 - Intro
00:45 - Kamaru vs. Canelo
03:55 - English Speaking
06:00 - Why Edgar Berlanga?
07:10 - Champion’s Discretion
10:00 - The Business of Boxing
12:50 - A Different Canelo
15:00 - Mexican Independence Day
17:30 - Back to 175?
18:55 - David Benavides
21:05 - Terrance Crawford
24:00 - The Debrief
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UFC 305 delivered. Izzy vs. Dricus was "exactly as advertised." The guys break down the fight, weigh in on the "true African champ" narrative, and play out potential scenarios in the middleweight division, which has even the likes of Alex Pereira circling for another crack at the belt.
Kai Kara France came off two losses and went toe to toe with Steve Ercig, right after Astroboy had a go at Pantoja for the Flyweight belt. Kai wins, and Kamaru plays matchmaker for the flyweight division (watch out, Hunter!).
Hooker and Gamrot was exciting and there's plenty of praise from the P4P hosts around Hooker's performance. He didn't call any specific names out during the Octagon interview so the guys forecast potential matchups.
Tai Tuivasa vs. Jairzinho Rozenstruik really puts into perspective the danger of Francis Ngannou...remember that 20-sec knockout in 2020? The judging on this one was suspect - with one at the table having Tai up 30-27.
Carlos Prates impressed Henry and Kamaru and the guys believe UFC will keep building him up as a force in Kamaru's Welterweight division. Li Jingliang is no slouch but the accuracy of Prates broke him down. Where does Prates go next in the WW column?
00:00 - Intro
00:30 - Israel Adesanya vs. Dricus Du Plessis
06:30 - "African Champ" Narrative
16:30 - Henry Cejudo, Izzy's Secret Fan
18:00 - What's Next for Middleweight Contendors
26:20 - Kai Kara France vs. Steve Ercig
31:30 - Dan Hooker vs. Mateusz Gamrot
35:50 - Tai Tuivasa vs. Jairzinho Rozenstruik
38:40 - Carlos Prates vs. Li Jingliang
46:30 - Prelim Review
49:50 - Underdog Fantasy Sports Results
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Triple C is back and so are the antics in this week's episode of Pound 4 Pound.
The guys catch up on Henry's trip to the Paris Olympics - and Triple C's run in with Khamzat Chimaev at the games. Speaking of fighter fans... Henry confronts Kamaru about the Belal Muhammad Twitter beef last week. Why the hell did Henry and the P4P pod have to catch some strays?! C'mon Belal :(
Alright, down to business. UFC 305 has a main card filled with potential home runs. Izzy and Dricus, Erceg, Tai Bam Bam Tuivasa. A lot of fighters taking the stage in their own backyard makes for great storylines - will the fights match the hype? Let's get into the breakdowns.
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00:00 - Intro
00:30 - Henry in Paris
01:20 - USA Wrestling, What Happened?
08:00 - Henry Sees Khamzat
14:00 - Belal vs. Kamaru, a Twitter Story
18:15 - Underdog Fantasy Picks
19:45 - Li Jingliang vs. Carlos Prates
24:35 - Tai Tuivasa vs. Jairzinho Rozenstruik
26:42 - Mateusz Gamrot vs. Dan Hooker
29:15 - Co-Main: Kai Kara France vs. Steve Erceg
34:40 - Dricus Du Plessis vs. Israel Adesanya
45:30 - Questions from a Casual: Post-Fight Lifestyle
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This week looks a little different in the Pound 4 Pound studio as Kamaru is joined by a new world renowned USA wrestling icon... Magic Man David Taylor. The two wrestling legends meet and Kamaru wastes no time getting into it... what happened back in April when Aaron Brooks upset the entire wrestling world in a win against the former Gold medalist.
If nothing else, those trials showed just how dominant USA Wrestling has become on a global scale - which is why "6 2024 Gold medals in 6 weight classes" isn't necessarily a wild prediction for David Taylor. What changed in the wrestling world that catalyzed such a national dominance? Regional Training Centers, a multi-generational room at Penn State that will go down in history, premiere coaches and staffs regularly serving lifelong tenures. Few men have more knowledge and appreciation of USA wrestling than the ever humble David Taylor, so sit down and enjoy a legend's perspective.
Decades of victories had to come to a close at some point, right? Even the greatest have downfalls, and evidently the best of the best don't get much time to wallow in regret... David got a phone call before he even processed his loss at trials, accepted the coveted role as Oklahoma State's head coach, and was on a flight before the first headline dropped. For anyone curious about Magic Man's plans for the historic OSU program, enjoy the final 10 minutes of this one.
Also included in this week's episode... Cael Sanderson has Kamaru Usman's number?? Excuse us while we go dig up this mysterious video that may or may not be titled Two Minute Go - Cael Sanderson and Marty Usman
For all the P4P wrestling die hards, this one will bless your Thursday morning.
Enjoy.
00:00 - Intro
2:30 - The Upset
5:10 - Aaron Brooks
10:30 - Penn State Dominance
14:50 - 2024 Olympic Predictions
18:30 - Power of Representation
22:10 - Winning and Learning
26:30 - David Taylor, the Coach
34:00 - From Olympic Trials to OSU
36:50 - Underdog Picks: UFC Fight Night
38:10 - UFC Considerations
44:20 - Thoughts on Bo Nickal
49:30 - Cael vs. Kamaru...Nightmare as Nightmares?!
51:50 - Game Plan for Oklahoma State
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Sandhagen vs. Nurmagomedov Breakdown, UFC Sphere Announcement, Olympic Wrestling || Pound 4 Pound with Kamaru Usman & Henry Cejudo
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0:00 - Intro
0:15 - Henry's Recent Travels
0:56 - UFC Fight Night Abu Dhabi Sandhagen vs. Umar
7:59 - Magomedov vs. Oleksiejczuk
10:09 - Tony Ferguson vs. Michael Chiesa
13:16 - Deiveson Figueiredo vs. Marlon Vera
15:00 - McKenzie Dern vs. Luppy Godinez
17:06 - Prelim Fights to Watch
21:52 - Underdog Fantasy & Egg Reveal
22:58 - Upcoming Fights and Speculations: Marab vs. O’Malley Announcement
26:11 - Balal Muhammad's Potential Next Fight & Kamaru's Perspective
29:23 - Ilia Topuria vs. Max Holloway Discussion
30:55 - Olympic Games and Wrestling
42:09 - Henry’s Settles Up on the Egg
46:34 - Questions from a Casual: What Fighters Hear Inside the Octagon
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UFC 304 has been described multiple times by multiple sources as “not exactly a barn burner…” but there is plenty to talk about over here in the P4P studio.
First, who better to give us an analysis of Belal Muhammad’s fight plan and execution against Leon Edwards thank the Nigerian Nightmare. Three matchups later and Kamaru Usman knows all there is to know about Leon’s battle plan and takedown defense, two things that Belal walked through without any issue. Head drop takedowns, level changes that led to back control, and more significant strikes landed with more than double thrown… Belal got it down in almost every way.
So what next? Well, Henry knows who he needs to ask and wastes no time. Kamaru gives us two answers for what he thinks about an Usman vs Muhammad matchup, one from the fighter and another from the realist. Then the guys map out a few welterweight scenarios for a division that Belal just blew wide open.
Tom Aspinall is making the case that he’s the best active heavyweight in the world; Kamaru certainly thinks so. Just 3 minutes and 37 seconds: Aspinall’s total fight time across his last 4 UFC fights. Is defending an Interim Belt getting to the point where it feels a little ridiculous? What should be the next Heavyweight title matchup, and where exactly does Jones fit into all this?
Paddy surprises the guys with a dominant win over King Green. Bobby let Paddy ease into the fight instead of putting it on him, and Paddy made the King pay with a quick and dominant second round. One thing is certain, Paddy Pimblett is unapologetically himself and that in itself commands respect.
Gregory Rodrigues vs Christian Leroy Duncan and Arnold Allen vs Giga Chikadze round out the main card. Quick analyses before we stop over at the Muhammad Mokaev and Manel Kape narrative, which culminated in an anticlimactic unanimous decision on the undercard. Kamaru speaks on the consequences that come along with fights that don’t deliver.
00:00 - Intro
02:30 - Belal vs Leon Breakdown
18:20 - Belal: Next Opponent
21:00 - Kamaru’s Next Fight Prediction
24:45 - Welterweight Scenarios
28:50 - Tom Aspinall, Best Active Heavyweight
35:50 - Paddy vs King
38:00 - What’s Next for Paddy
41:41 - Kape vs Mokaev Falls Flat
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Cory The Sandman Sandhagen is one of the most likeable dudes in the UFC; known for an approach to MMA rooted in intentionality, thoughtfulness and strategy. He joins the guys ahead of his upcoming bout against Umar Nurmagomedov in Abu Dhabi August 3rd.
The guys discuss Umar's fight style and what makes him dangerous, and why the rankings don't tell his full story. They dig a little bit into Cory's past fights - both victories and defeats - that have shaped him into a well-rounded, universally dangerous MMA fighter rather than a one dimensional killer. And credit to the world class coaches who have embedded champion tactics into The Sandman, who's taken years to polish his grappling after the Aljamain Sterling loss.
We wrap up with a Sean v. Merab breakdown and prediction as well as Cory's vision for his own battle on August 3rd.
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00:00 - Intro
01:30 - Umar Nurmagomedov
02:30 - F*** the Rankings
05:30 - Rob Font with No Tricep
10:15 - Umar Fight Plan: Better Everywhere
13:45 - Underdog Picks
15:10 - From IT to UFC
21:31 - Petr Yan and Song Yadong
23:40 - Great Coaching
27:30 - Sean O'Malley vs. Merab Dvalishvili
30:10 - Cory's Fight Prediction
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The buzz around UFC 304 has been surprisingly quiet; Kamaru and Henry are here to help.
Before 304 breakdowns and predictions the guys take a quick 10 minutes reacting to the Jake Paul vs. Mike Perry boxing match that took place this past weekend. Naturally, the guys have slightly different views on the bout, the performances from both men, and that not-so-subtle Pereira callout from Jake. What's a fight between Paul and Pereira actually look like? Let the debate begin.
Alright - time to get into the action of UFC 304: Leon Edwards vs. Belal Muhammad 2. A widely anticipated main and co-main event preceded by some sneaky and not-so-sneaky matchups.
This week's Underdog picks aren't out yet but Henry and Kamaru are ready to tell you who they see with their hand in the air Saturday night in Manchester. Arnold Allen vs. Giga Chikadze is a tale of great striker vs. a great kicker. Can Allen avoid (and survive) enough powerful body kicks from Giga and find the chin? We can count on a standup battle one way or another.
Kamaru has high praise for Gregory Rodrigues' toughness... "you're gonna need a baseball bat and two friends..." but Henry notices a pattern in hometown fighters in England getting favorable matchups by the UFC. The guys have different predictions and equally terrible english accents. Sorry in advance.
Does Paddy have the threshold to survive King Green - a fighter who was able to find 186/319 significant strikes in a decision win over veteran Jim Miller? Paddy has showed resilience against Tony Ferguson, but King Green poses a new challenge for the relatively new fighter in the UFC.
Curtis Blaydes vs. Tom Aspinall hits close to home for Kamaru, a friend of Blaydes. Both men agree that Curtis will have to mix in his wrestling to find success, but Kamaru assures Henry that the striking game of Razor Blaydes is nothing to sleep on. On the flip side both Kamaru and Henry recognize Tom's ability as a heavyweight who has combo speed and consistent movement. It's a split decision for the guys.
Leon Edwards vs. Belal Muhammad is another one that has the Pound 4 Pound studio torn. The freestyle fighter style of Belal has Henry reminiscing about Khabib, and both guys have equally technical, though differentiating reads on the Palestinian. Triple C has a feeling that the current mentality and inspiration of Belal makes him the favorable fighter, but if anyone has a credible read of Leon Edwards, it's Kamaru; and Nightmare is sensing that Rocky is going into the title defense confident and technically sound.
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Don't say the boys aren't dedicated...Henry and Kamaru jump online for a quick record during a heavy travel week. On the docket is a walk down memory lane as they both reminisce on their time in USA Wrestling Junior Nationals over in Fargo, ND, where Henry is currently.
Kamaru gives us an insider view straight from his seat at the analysts table during UFC Fight Night in Denver last week. Thug Rose stole the show, Henry's cracking an egg on his head, and Kamaru has been impressed by a relatively new rising star in Montel Jackson, who had met the Nigerian Nightmare years ago.
This weekend is another sneaky good card... more than a couple fights have the guys excited. Bias aside, Mohammed Usman opening the Prelims with a heavyweight bout sets the stage for an eventful evening. Some old favorites are resurfacing... read: The Korean Superboy is back in action. Bruno Silva vs. Cody Durden is another one to keep an eye on. And in the very same night, Jake Paul vs. Mike Perry step inside the ring.
Beyond Saturday's UFC and Boxing events, there are a few distant and not-yet official matchups that, despite both those adjectives, are worth a quick word... and best of all, Kamaru gives us his take on what a potential WW opponent looks like for his return.
To close out the call the guys debate their Olympic matchups in a randomized Decathlon of sports outside of wrestling; Shot Put, 100m Sprint, Gymnastics, 100m Freestyle, Beach Volleyball, Ping Pong, Tennis, Breakdancing, Diving and Golf. Kamaru leaves as heavy favorite...
Enjoy.
00:00 Intro
00:30 - Wrestling Nationals, Fargo
03:40 - Last Weekend's Fight Night
04:25 - Thug Rose
08:00 - Montel Jackson
10:00 - UFC Fight Night: Lemos v. Jandiroba
15:01 - Underdog Picks
16:15 - Paul vs. Perry, Quick Thoughts
18:05 - Kamaru's Potential Next Opponents
20:45 - Olympic Showdowns
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Before the guys get into it this week, there are a couple of recent outfits that needed to be addressed... Frozone and a nude captain America make their cases.
Then, Kamaru and Henry offer some insight into the artist's struggle, commenting in particular on Alex Pereira and Shakur Stevenson. How frustrating is it to succeed in the cage only to be met with criticism and doubt outside of it? Triple C is a master at ignoring the hate, but not everyone copes so naturally. Case in point: the hate that Kamaru got for his "30%" statement back in the day, which caused him to stay offline for a few days.
Not everyone takes a break from the internet though... enter: Shakur Stevenson's Twitter. The guys stumbled upon an "It Is What It Is" segment where hosts Mase and Cam'ron fired seven straight minutes of damage at the WBO Super Featherweight, in response to a few tweets Shakur posted earlier in the week. Kamaru and Henry offer sage words to Shakur, from the fighter's perspective. Criticism is inevitable, knowing how to ignore it, and even use it, is essential to success.
Okay - time to address Saturday Night Fight Night in Denver Colorado. Tracy Cortez is taking on Rose Namajunas and this one hits close to home.
Kamaru and Rose are old teammates, and he's seen enough power from the former UFC champion to know she can beat nearly anybody. On the flip side of that coin, Henry trains every day with Tracy Cortez out in AZ, the young star is even living with his brother as she trains for Saturday's matchup. In other words: the P4P podcast is split on Namajunas vs. Cortez.
Net Net: SOMEONE'S CRACKING AN EGG ON THEIR HEAD.
Yes, it's true. Kamaru backs Namajunas, Henry backs Cortez, and loser takes an egg to the dome.
There are plenty of other fights to be excited about this week, too. The guys break down a few of the other matchups they're excited about. And, even a few that never happened. Stay tuned until the end to hear about Kamaru and Henry's top "Fight That Never Was."
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00:00 - Intro
00:30 - The Blue Suit
01:45 - The Birthday Suit
04:00 - It's OK To Care
06:05 - Addressing Pereira Drama
07:15 - BTS of Kamaru's 30% Drama
10:40 - Words for Shakur Stevenson
16:35 - UFC FIGHT NIGHT
16:40 - Debating Rose Namajunas vs. Tracy Cortez
23:15 - SOMEONE'S GETTING EGGED
24:00 - Jean Silva vs. Drew Dober
25:00 - Gabriel Bonfim vs. Ange Loosa
26:15 - UNDERDOG PICKS
27:51 - Best Fights That Never Happened
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Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo jump into the studio to react to an exciting professional boxing bout that hosted a ton of impressive names, inside and outside the ring.
Five years ago, Masvidal bested Diaz in the octagon and a beef was born. After an increasingly tense promotional tour that included a street brawl between Diaz and Masvidal crews, the former UFC stars, known for their striking and ability to endure pain, squared up for 10 rounds in the ring. When the final bell rang, Diaz got the nod after what many viewers felt was a neck and neck fight, with Masvidal landing some hard-hitting blows but Diaz taking them in stride and playing the numbers game to out-strike his way to victory.
The headliner wasn't the only bout that delivered; the undercard had multiple stars at all places in their career. The Co-Main Event matched up Daniel Jacobs and Shane Mosley Jr., where the son of Sugar Shane Mosley pulled off a dominant win over the former Middleweight Champion. Also on the card was former champion Anthony Pettis and rising star Curmel Moton, who is backed by Floyd Mayweather.
00:30 - Masvidal vs. Diaz, First Takes
03:20 - Underrated Undercard
08:30 - What's Next for Nate
15:00 - Masvidal vs. Jake Paul
18:10 - Anthony Pettis
21:30 - Shane Mosley Jr.
23:30 - Shakur Stevenson
25:50 - Triple C's Words for Shakur
29:20 - Nate Diaz the Promoter?
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Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo jump into the studio to react to an exciting professional boxing bout that hosted a ton of impressive names, inside and outside the ring.
Five years ago, Masvidal bested Diaz in the octagon and a beef was born. After an increasingly tense promotional tour that included a street brawl between Diaz and Masvidal crews, the former UFC stars, known for their striking and ability to endure pain, squared up for 10 rounds in the ring. When the final bell rang, Diaz got the nod after what many viewers felt was a neck and neck fight, with Masvidal landing some hard-hitting blows but Diaz taking them in stride and playing the numbers game to out-strike his way to victory.
The headliner wasn't the only bout that delivered; the undercard had multiple stars at all places in their career. The Co-Main Event matched up Daniel Jacobs and Shane Mosley Jr., where the son of Sugar Shane Mosley pulled off a dominant win over the former Middleweight Champion. Also on the card was former champion Anthony Pettis and rising star Curmel Moton, who is backed by Floyd Mayweather.
00:30 - Masvidal vs. Diaz, First Takes
03:20 - Underrated Undercard
08:30 - What's Next for Nate
15:00 - Masvidal vs. Jake Paul
18:10 - Anthony Pettis
21:30 - Shane Mosley Jr.
23:30 - Shakur Stevenson
25:50 - Triple C's Words for Shakur
29:20 - Nate Diaz the Promoter?
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Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo jump into the studio to react to an exciting professional boxing bout that hosted a ton of impressive names, inside and outside the ring.
Five years ago, Masvidal bested Diaz in the octagon and a beef was born. After an increasingly tense promotional tour that included a street brawl between Diaz and Masvidal crews, the former UFC stars, known for their striking and ability to endure pain, squared up for 10 rounds in the ring. When the final bell rang, Diaz got the nod after what many viewers felt was a neck and neck fight, with Masvidal landing some hard-hitting blows but Diaz taking them in stride and playing the numbers game to out-strike his way to victory.
The headliner wasn't the only bout that delivered; the undercard had multiple stars at all places in their career. The Co-Main Event matched up Daniel Jacobs and Shane Mosley Jr., where the son of Sugar Shane Mosley pulled off a dominant win over the former Middleweight Champion. Also on the card was former champion Anthony Pettis and rising star Curmel Moton, who is backed by Floyd Mayweather.
00:30 - Masvidal vs. Diaz, First Takes
03:20 - Underrated Undercard
08:30 - What's Next for Nate
15:00 - Masvidal vs. Jake Paul
18:10 - Anthony Pettis
21:30 - Shane Mosley Jr.
23:30 - Shakur Stevenson
25:50 - Triple C's Words for Shakur
29:20 - Nate Diaz the Promoter?
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A ton of changes leading into International Fight Week had the war room over at UFC working overtime to make sure 303 stood up to the hype, and while the main card looked different, it certainly didn't disappoint Kamaru and Henry.
Alex Pereira continued to prove to the world that...he is THAT GUY. But Kamaru and Henry have words for the Light Heavyweight division contenders, who seem to continuously fall into a striking trap with one of the most lethal left hands in the cage. What do you do with a man who is 3 years into a UFC career with wins over 5 former champions, two division belts and objectively the best 12-fight run in history? Henry has one more LH opponent in mind for Alex before he makes the jump to Heavyweight, and the guys discuss how Pereira would fair in the division above.
Is Dan Ige a certified badass? His DM's say so. Not many people on the planet plead for the green light with just FOUR HOURS to prepare. Diego's performance calls for a bit of debate between the guys. One thing was easy to agree on - the experienced 50k Ige deserves respect for his showing, especially for the 3rd round effort. And a wise reminder from the Nigerian Nightmare: Styles. Make. Fights.
To that point, Ian Machado Garry's fight IQ showed up on Saturday night as he gets the UD over MVP in what was an extremely even statistical score minus one thing: 7+ minutes of control for Machado. Top control wins fights (even when it doesn't win fans) and Ian Garry didn't leave room for the judges, or Kamaru and Henry, to debate. Also, it caught the attention of Shavkat Rakhmonov. Despite the loss, Michael Venom Page showed his confidence and comfortability in the octagon continues to evolve.
A good ol' Underdog Fantasy Sports competition closes the recap - Kamaru and Henry are ready to up the stakes on their next round of picks...whose got thoughts on what they should bet? 🙋♂️🙋♂️
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00:00 - Intro
00:20 - Debating Alex Pereira
08:40 - Ige's Badass DM
09:40 - Diego Lopes, Doubts?
13:10 - Ian Machado Garry
16:10 - Welterweight Rundown
17:45 - Wrestling...Necessary?
21:30 - Harder Tests for Talbott
24:10 - Underdog Picks Get Competitive
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Kamaru finally gets his win of Georges St. Pierre as the Florida Panthers pulls off a win in Game Seven of the NHL Stanley Cup against Edmonton Oilers. Keep and eye out for GSP's pushup video in Kamaru's Panthers jersey.
Henry and Kamaru have their eyes on some prelim and early prelim bouts that are worth the early tune in... including Ricky Simon, the return of Michelle Waterson-Gomez, and the young gun Payton Talbott, whose got even the likes of Triple C on his toes (from the champ's mouth himself). The Andre Fili vs. Cub Swanson matchup has got Kamaru praising Sean Shelby's match-making skills, and Joe Pyfer gets back on the horse against an extremely durable opponent in Marc-André Barriault.
Then, the Main Card is looking stacked. Ian Machado Garry vs. Michael Page opening the card is an exciting thing for all UFC fans. Can a title-hungry MVP dodge enough of Ian Garry's lethal leg kicks to find success? He seems to think so, and Kamaru responds LIVE to MVP's recent tweet about a matchup with our very own world-ranked number one Welterweight himself.
There was a lot for Jiří to learn from his loss against Pereira last time the two titans stepped into the cage, but the Czech Samurai is one of the best students of the game... case in point: the guys aren't too sure the bookmakers got this one right. And, records don't tell the whole story. Jiří was able to put Alex on his heels before he took one of the champion's patented left hooks. This fight is sure to fire on all levels as the two light heavyweights square up for another historic night.
After a UFC 303 preview the guys jump into weekly news, commenting on Arman Tsarukyan's 9-month suspension for striking a fan at UFC 300, which may have cost him a quick-turn fight against Islam Makhachev. Also in headlines was, of course, Conor McGregor's injury that cost him his 303 title shot. The guys break down the decision that goes into pushing a fight due to injury - not something the Conor of years past would have been quick to do. What happens next?
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04:10 - Prelims
08:55 - MAIN CARD
09:00 - Ian Garry vs. Michael Page
14:45 - Mayra Bueno Silva vs. Macy Chiasson
17:10 - Anthony Smith vs. Roman Dolidze
18:50 - CO-MAIN: Brian Ortega vs. Diego Lopez
25:20 - Alex Pereira vs. Jiří Procházka
32:30 - Underdog Picks
34:00 - WEEKLY NEWS
34:10 - Arman Tsarukyan's Fine
40:30 - What Happens with Conor McGregor
43:45 - Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney
48:10 - Triple C's Challenge
50:10 - Octagon Proposals; a Tossup
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Jorge Masvidal!!!
Kamaru and Jorge reunite outside the octagon to chop it up on the P4P pod. The guys reflect on growing up as childhood immigrants, and the light at the end of that tunnel for Masvidal: scrapping.
A lot happens on the journey from flunking ESL courses to becoming the UFC BMF champion and a multimillionaire fighter, promoter, and...reality TV star??? The multi-hyphenate Masvidal tells us all about it.
Jorge and Kamaru take us behind-the-scenes for their historic bouts - one of which is still regarded as the top selling PPV event for the UFC. Spoiler alert - the Nigerian Nightmare and Gamebred are two brawlers that know how to stand on business. They discuss the Flying Knee heard around the world, and how the events leading up to, and following, that moment that perfectly symbolize the ethos of UFC: anything can happen.
Jorge gives us a fist-hand account of the UFC's development in Miami - going all the way back to his experience at UFC 42 as a wide-eyed 17-year-old. Then, of course, flashbacks to his bouts with Nate Diaz, and a taste of what's to come in July, where Masvidal will leave behind his lethal head kicks (and, obviously, knees) for a straight up boxing match with Diaz. He's confident.
You don't need to be a die-hard to know this one is big.
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0:00 - Intro
0:30 - Go Panthers
02:50 - Izzy Announces
9:30 - Jake’s New Mike
14:40 - Underdog Picks
16:40 - START: MASVIDAL INTERVIEW
23:15 - Growing Up in ESL
30:00 - UFC: Universal Language
32:40 - Backyard Brawler is Born
36:30 - Ponytail
41:00 - Masvidal’s UFC Start
44:40 - Masvidal: Reality Star
50:15 - Jorge’s Secret Fan
54:30 - The Flying Knee
59:30 - Kamaru 🤝 Jorge
1:01:25 - Miami Flashback: UFC 42
1:03:30 - Nate Diaz UFC 244
1:06:45 - Return to the Ring
1:13:50 - Retirement (Lame)
1:18:00 - Jorge the Promoter
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BONUS EPISODE
This week’s MMA headlines have Kamaru and Henry calling an emergency press conference to air it all out. Conor pulls, Khamzat pulls, and some young faces with high hopes answer the call they’ve been waiting on. Don’t sell your 303 tickets just yet - the guys have hope, and a new Underdog pick for us to ride.
00:00 INTRO
00:30 - Conor’s Out
4:30 - Main Card Review
13:00 - Whittaker v. Aliskerov
16:50 - NEW Underdog Picks
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Kamaru and Henry catch up after their weekend travel… where Kamaru linked up with his brother Justin Gaethje, and Henry’s daughter showed the world she can bounce back from a fall just as fast as her dad.
Kamaru sets the record straight on the Khabib and Dana video and weighs in on the Shavkat Rakhmonov callout…PSA: the Nigerian Nightmare fears no one. The champs weigh in other recent news: the Masvidal and Diaz press conference got a little chippy, Ryan Garcia runs into trouble at the Beverly Hills Hotel, and public skepticism grows around the McGregor Chandler fight.
Then we get into the Cannonier vs. Imavov Fight Night in Louisville, Kentucky. First up is early stoppages… was Cannonier robbed? Do judges need more oversight or an accountability system? Then, Reyes comes back with a vengeance and reminds Kamaru of someone else who plans on a return from a brief hiatus. Time to review Underdog picks…the guys batted 100% and confidence is on the rise heading into Saturday’s fights. We close out with some big anticipation for June 15th bouts between Frank Martin vs. Gervonta Davis and David Benavidez vs. Oleksandr Gvozdyk. Reminder if you haven’t watched the David Benavidez episode from last week, do yourself a favor and check it out ahead of Saturday’s feature fight with the Mexican Monster.
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David Benavidez!
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Kamaru and Henry sit down with two-time WBC super middleweight champion and current interim champion, David Benavidez.
There’s more to the Mexican Monster than blistering hand speed. He opens up about a number of topics from childhood to fight strategies to Canelo Alvarez.
Let us reiterate: the guys go DEEP on Canelo. The if, when, and why this fight has to happen; why it’s yet to be made; and the general politics behind boxing on the world stage. What happens when the torchbearer refuses to acknowledge the next in line? David tells us how he plans to keep his momentum moving forward, with or without Canelo.
We hear about the tough love that made David into the champion he is today - not just from David, but also Henry who was in the gym with the Benavidez family at the very start. David shares the impact his father and brother have had on him as not just a fighter but as a man. And the guys get spiritual; David schools us on molecular patterns and living life as a good-hearted human being.
And just when it can’t get any better - José Benavidez Sr. makes a surprise appearance on the pod. Reconnected with Henry, José reminisces about those early years in the gym, the sacrifices he knew he was choosing for his family to secure their successes in future life, and, right on theme, a personal message to Canelo.
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00:00 Intro
01:30 - Chasing Four Belts
03:20 - START: Canelo
04:10 - Passing the Torch
07:20 - Making Dreams Come True
14:00 - How to Fight Canelo
17:00 - Canelo’s Retirement Plan
21:40 - Navigating the Politics
25:00 - Staying Positive, Training Hard
30:45 - David’s Top 5
34:25 - David’s Childhood
37:15 - Sparring the Toughest Competition
39:50 - Shoutout Underdog Fantasy
41:00 - Lessons From Dad
46:00 - Family of Boxers
49:20 - Spiritual Talk
54:15 - Be a Good Human
57:15 - Special Guest: Jose Benavidez Sr.
1:00:00 - A Father’s Perspective
1:03:30 - Finding a Balance
1:08:40 - Final Words for Canelo
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UFC 302 REACTION, Islam Makhachev vs. Dustin Poirier, Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul Update || Pound 4 Pound Kamaru Usman & Henry Cejudo
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This week, Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo catch up on recent news in combat sports, from Song Yadong's callout for Triple C and Jan Blachowicz's open invite for the Nigerian Nightmare, to the two latest additions on the UFC 303 card, Jamahal Hill v. Carlos Ulberg and Michael Page v. Ian Garry.
The guys catch up on the combat world's favorite bad boys: Ryan Garcia's latest drug test developments and Conor McGregor's unusual training tactics. To close out the segment, it's time for a breakdown of last week's boxing match between Elle Brooke and Paige VanZant.
It's also time for final UFC 302 picks on Underdog Fantasy - the guys select their favorites for all five fights on the Main Card; who will win and how they'll do it. They go deep Holland v. Oleksiejczuk, Strickland v. Costa and, of course, the headliner between Islam Makhachev and Dustin Poirier.
We close out the episode with a special guest interview with one of the fighters on the main card - the rising star Randy "Rudeboy" Brown. Brown calls in to touch on overcoming adversity and the drive it gives him to succeed, turning his parents into his biggest fans, and how he plans to walk down Dos Santos this weekend.
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00:00 - Intro
00:25 - This Week in Combat Sports
05:10 - Triple C's Next Fight
09:00 - Jan Blachowicz's Words for Kamaru
12:10 - Ryan Garcia
17:05 - UFC 303 Fight Additions
21:35 - Conor McGregor
24:25 - Paige VanZant v. Elle Brooke
26:50 - Kamaru Dresses Like a Champion
27:40 - FINAL PICKS: UFC 302
29:05 - Brown v. Dos Santos
30:20 - Almeida v. Romanov
31:45 - Holland v. Oleksiejczuk
34:20 - Strickland v. Costa
37:00 - Makhachev v. Poirier
42:40 - June, a Big Month for Combat Sports
46:00 - GUEST INTERVIEW: Randy Brown
48:45 - Enduring Adversity
51:30 - Proud Parents
58:15 - Randy Tells Triple C How It Is
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Henry Cejudo and Kamaru Usman sit down to talk the latest news in combat sports. The guys start off with a quick recap of their weekends... Henry was able to reconnect with his first-ever boxing coach José Benavidez, father of two-time WBC super middleweight champion David Benavidez, and Kamaru spent some time at his side gig out in LA.
Recent hot topics up for discussion include the announcement of a trilogy fight between Anderson Silva and Chael Sonnen, who will face off in a five round boxing match on June 15 in Brazil. Also on the docket is Khalil Rountree's failed drug test and subsequent removal from UFC 303, and Colby Covington's callout to Charles Oliveira. Also in headlines, our very own Triple C calls out Rob Ford and the guys take a deep dive into the potential matchup.
After a half hour of reactions to recent news it's time to jump into UFC 302 matchups as Kamaru and Henry make their picks and weigh out each fight across Early Prelims, Prelims and the Main Card. Standouts include a walk down history lane that reminds the world Cesar Almeida's kickboxing is the real deal (just ask Alex Pereira), a debate on Sean Strickland vs. Paulo Costa, and the growing anticipation around Islam Makhachev and Dustin Poirier.
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00:00 INTRO
01:45 - José Benavidez
03:00 - Kamaru Usman, The Fashionista
04:30 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen
06:45 - Khalil Rountree
11:55 - Covington Calls Out Oliveira
17:30 - Henry Calls Out Rob Font
25:20 - UFC 302 Preview Segment
33:40 - UFC 302 Prelims
41:30 - Feature Prelim: C. Almeida v. Kopylov
46:00 - Brown v. Santos
48:12 - J. Almeida v. Romanov
50:40 - Holland v. Oleksiejcuk
53:30 - Strickland v. Costa
59:50 - Main Event: Makhachev v. Poirier
01:11:30 - Kamaru's Moral Query
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FIGHT OF THE YEAR?? Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk Reaction || Pound 4 Pound Kamaru Usman Henry Cejudo
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Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo jump into the studio to talk to Islam Makhachev weeks before his upcoming Lightweight Title Fight against Dustin Poirier at UFC 302.
Before Islam, Kamaru and Henry react to Derrick Lewis’ cup launch and the growing relationship between the UFC and WWE.
And BIG NEWS… Underdog Fantasy Sports is an official partner of the Pound 4 Pound show with Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo! The guys have fun exploring the app and making their own picks for Saturday’s UFC Fight Night with Lerone Murphy and Edson Barboza.
The guys ask Islam about his relationship with Khabib Nurmagomedov, growing up in Dagestan with the top fighters in the world, his strategy against Dustin Poirier, how he feels about a fantasy fight against Conor McGregor, and his thoughts on the 155 landscape as a whole.
After a debrief on the Islam conversation, Kamaru and Henry react to ESPN’s rankings of the top 15 undefeated MMA fighters. Is Ilia Topuria’s #1 slot too high, is Bo Nickal worthy of the list at just 6-0? Who gets the edge… Usman Nurmagomedov or Islam Makhachev?
0:00 - Intro
1:50 - Derrick Lewis
4:15 - UFC and WWE
13:45 - Gable Steveson… Snubbed
15:55 - Underdog Fantasy Sports
23:45 - Islam Makhachev!
26:38 - Islam’s Roots
29:37 - Dagestan
32:20 - Khabib The Coach
36:18 - Islam, Living His Dream
40:23 - The 155lb Landscape
43:14 - Dustin Poirier, Conor McGregor 49:42 - Umar Nurmagomedov
56:19 - Debrief
58:50 - ESPN’s Best of: Undefeated
1:07:10 - Umar Nurmagomedov, Top Dog
1:11:30 - Bo Nickal…Only 6-0
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Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo sit down with Caleb Plant, the former Super Middleweight Boxing Champion, to discuss the hardships that led them to success, fatherhood, living with heartbreak, and the persistence it takes to be a champion.
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Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo are back to break down the UFC 301 main card and make their picks before the fights down in Rio; they also preview the Canelo Alvarez vs Jaime Munguia boxing match this Saturday. They also open up about the recent Francis Ngannou news and reflect on life and their families.
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Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo sit down with Shaquille O'Neal to talk about everything from Diesel's first UFC event with Vitor Belfort, hard childhood lessons, prolific adventures off the court, Kobe, and how respect breeds success. Also on the agenda: discipline, fatherhood, and living with the idea that tomorrow's never promised.
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Bonus Episode❗️❗️❗️
Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo recap a thrilling weekend in combat sports. Starting with the Garcia vs. Haney fight that shocked the world...what does the result mean for Ryan, his golden left arm, and fight promotion strategies involving TikTok and chugging beer? The guys also discuss results from the USA Olympic Wrestling Trials in Pennsylvania - from the downside of "too much depth" over at Penn State to the undeserved abuse of Jordan Burroughs. And finally, a look at Dana White's message to UFC 300 doubters and Jake Paul's venture into MMA? Enjoy.
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Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo sit down with Oscar De La Hoya to meet the man behind the legend. On the agenda: magic mushrooms and forgiveness, Ryan Garcia, Dana White, the state of modern day boxing, sex symbolism, childhood trauma, and lessons from fatherhood. And will someone tell Henry he's pretty.
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Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo break down all of the action from UFC 300 Saturday night and what it means moving forward. From the Holloway vs. Gaethje BMF title to what’s next for Alex Pereira, how commitment to strategy secured victory for Zhang Weili and Arman Tsarukyan, and just how many more fights should Bo Nickal make until he earns a title shot? Oh, and Kamaru still has branded water glasses.
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Kamaru Usman & Henry Cejudo sit down with the BMF champion just 2 days before his title fight with Max Holloway. The guys talk preparation for fight week and the pressure of the moment, how tactics change over time, and training methods from the Usman and Gaethje fight camps.
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Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo break down the ENTIRE UFC 300 Fight Card; debating and analyzing outcomes based on their own professional insight, previous bouts with contenders, and training camp experiences with each fighter.
Daymond John sits down with Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo in Miami to talk about his love for UFC, behind the scenes of Shark Tank and business advice for the guys on how to be successful when their careers end.
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Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo sit down with the UFC legend Georges St-Pierre in Miami during UFC 299 fight week to talk about who is the greatest Welterweight of all time, GSP potentially returning to fight Khabib, and breaking down his mindset going into title fights. The show ends with another segment of Outside of the Cage, where the guys and GSP breakdown rediculous hypothetical questions.
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Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo go to UFC Headquarters in Las Vegas to sit down with Dana White to discuss the history of the sport, who is the greatest Welterweight fighter of all time, and what makes a championship fighter.
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CHAEL SONNEN sits down with Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo in Miami to talk all things UFC/MMA, their wrestling careers, dealing with the pressure of competing at the top level, and what would happen if Chael Sonnen ran into Jorge Masvidal on the street.
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Kamaru Usman & Henry Cejudo Breakdown UFC 299, Francis Ngannou vs. Anthony Joshua
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BONUS EPISODE: The guys make their UFC 299 Picks LIVE from Miami before the Saturday fight.
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In the second episode of the show, Kamaru Usman and Henry Cejudo interview Francis Ngannou. Ngannou talks about his upcoming fight with Anthony Joshua, behind the scenes of what went down with the UFC, and his return to MMA. The episode ends with a new segment where the guys go down the rabbit hole of the internet googling themselves. Go to our YouTube channel to watch the full video.
Pound 4 Pound is Kamaru Usman & Henry Cejudo teaming up and entering the octagon of podcasting together for a brand-new weekly show. Every week, you can expect interviews with athletes and celebrity guests + breakdowns of everything going on in the fight game, and whatever else the guys feel like talking about.
Hosts @KamaruUsmanMMA & @HenryCejudoTripleC
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Kamaru Usman & Henry Cejudo are teaming up and entering the ring of podcasting together for a brand new weekly show, Pound 4 Pound. Every week, you can expect interviews with athletes and celebrity guests + breakdowns of everything going on in the fight game. and whatever else the guys feel like talking about. You’ll get information and insights here that you won’t get anywhere else.
In the first episode of the show, the guys discuss why they're starting the show together then Henry talks his decision to retire or not retire. Kamaru opens up about where he's at and what a return to the octagon could look like, and then the guys break down all of the fights on the UFC 299 card.
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