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    Plain English with Derek Thompson

    Longtime Atlantic tech, culture and political writer Derek Thompson cuts through all the noise surrounding the big questions and headlines that matter to you in his new podcast Plain English. Watch Derek and guests engage the news with clear viewpoints and memorable takeaways. New episodes drop every Tuesday and Friday, and if you’ve got a topic you want discussed, shoot us an email at plainenglish@spotify.com! Subscribe to our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@PlainEnglishwithDerekThompson

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    Latest Episodes:
    The Psychology of Conspiracy Theories Sep 06, 2024
    Show notes

    Are conspiracy theories more popular than ever? Are Americans more conspiratorial than ever? Are conservatives more conspiratorial than liberals? Joseph Uscinski is a political scientist at the University of Miami and one of the nation's preeminent experts on the psychology of conspiratorial thinking and the history of conspiracy theories in America. He has some counterintuitive and surprising answers to these questions. Today, he and Derek discuss—and debate—the psychology and politics of modern conspiratorial thinking.


    If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at PlainEnglish@Spotify.com.

    Host: Derek Thompson

    Guest: Joseph Uscinski

    Producer: Devon Baroldi


    Links

    Uscinski's research page: https://people.miami.edu/profile/60b5fb062f4f266afb6739ec21657c74

    "The psychological and political correlates of conspiracy theory beliefs" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-25617-0

    "Fake news on Twitter during the 2016 U.S. presidential election" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30679368/

    "Right and left, partisanship predicts (asymmetric) vulnerability to misinformation" https://misinforeview.hks.harvard.edu/article/right-and-left-partisanship-predicts-asymmetric-vulnerability-to-misinformation/

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    "Exercise May Be the Single Most Potent Medical Intervention Ever Known" Aug 30, 2024
    Show notes

    Exercise is a conundrum. On the one hand, physical activity is clearly one of the best interventions for preventing physical disease and mental suffering. On the other hand, scientists don't really understand how it works inside the body or what exactly running, jumping, lifting, and squatting do to our tissues and organs. That's finally changing. Euan Ashley, a professor of genomics and cardiovascular medicine and the chair of the Stanford Department of Medicine, is a member of a new research consortium that studies rats and humans to understand the molecular changes induced by exercise. Today we talk about the earliest findings from this new consortium, how exercise might have disparate effects in men versus women, why nature’s most effective cardiovascular intervention also seems to be nature’s most effective mental health intervention, as well as whether it will one day be possible to identify the molecular basis of exercise precisely enough to develop exercise pills that give us the benefits of working out without the sweat.


    If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at PlainEnglish@Spotify.com.


    Host: Derek Thompson

    Guest: Euan Ashley

    Producer: Devon Baroldi

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    Democrats Are Euphoric. But This Election Is Much Closer Than They Think. Aug 23, 2024
    Show notes

    Derek offers a short but sweet review of the Democratic National Convention, the science of post-convention bounces, and the reality of the 2024 polling: It's still a toss-up.


    If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at PlainEnglish@Spotify.com.


    Host: Derek Thompson

    Producer: Devon Baroldi

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    The Four Biggest Myths About Political Persuasion Aug 16, 2024
    Show notes

    Today's episode is about how we change our minds—and what political science tells us about the best ways to change the minds of voters. Our guest is David Broockman, a political scientist at the University of California Berkeley, and the coauthor, with Josh Kalla, of a new essay in Slow Boring on Kamala Harris, Donald Trump, and the most persuasive arguments and messages to decide this election. Today, David and I talk about the four biggest myths of political persuasion—and in the process, David will attempt to do something that I’m not entirely sure is possible: He’ll try to change my mind about how persuasion works.


    If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at PlainEnglish@Spotify.com.

    Host: Derek Thompson

    Guest: David Broockman

    Producer: Devon Baroldi


    Links:

    "What's Better Than Calling Donald Trump 'Weird'?" https://www.slowboring.com/p/whats-better-than-calling-trump-weird

    "Consuming cross-cutting media causes learning and moderates attitudes: A field experiment with Fox News viewers" https://osf.io/preprints/osf/jrw26

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    How to Be Happy and the Science of Cognitive Time Travel Aug 09, 2024
    Show notes

    Laurie Santos is a superstar in the crowded field of happiness research. She is a cognitive scientist at Yale University whose course on the psychology of happiness was the most popular class in the school's history. She is the host of the immensely popular ‘Happiness Lab’ podcast. Today, she and Derek talk about her favorite lessons from modern happiness research, lessons on striving and anxiety from existential philosophy, our relationship to time, the science of cognitive time travel, temporal mind tricks to reduce anxiety like "psychological distancing," and more.

    If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at PlainEnglish@Spotify.com.

    Host: Derek Thompson

    Guest: Dr. Laurie Santos

    Producer: Devon Baroldi

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    Market Meltdown FAQ: Recession Fears, Global Stock Wipeout, and the Case for Calm Aug 05, 2024
    Show notes

    In a special emergency-ish episode, Bloomberg's Conor Sen joins the show to discuss a buffet of economic and financial fears, including a disappointing jobs report, a meltdown in global stocks, the "carry trade" heard round the world, the smartest criticisms of (and smartest defense of) the Federal Reserve's decision not to raise interest rates, and more.


    If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at PlainEnglish@Spotify.com.


    Host: Derek Thompson

    Guest: Conor Sen

    Producer: Devon Baroldi

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    Why Are Robocalls So Hard to Stop? (Plus: Kamala and the Gender Wars.) Aug 02, 2024
    Show notes

    Derek offers his thoughts on Kamala Harris, the new 2024 reality, and gender polarization in the "boys vs. girls" election. Then we talk about the spam apocalypse. The average American receives one spam call or text every single day, adding up to tens of billions of robocalls and texts per year. Derek welcomes Joshua Bercu, the executive director of Industry Traceback Group, to talk about the history and technology behind robocalls and texts, why it’s been so hard to hold robocallers accountable, how spammers do that thing where they make a call look like it’s coming from a local friend, how we've managed to crush certain kinds of robocalls, and what it would take to finally win the war on spam.


    If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at PlainEnglish@Spotify.com.


    Host: Derek Thompson

    Guest: Joshua Bercu

    Producer: Devon Baroldi

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    Why Are Conservatives Happier Than Progressives? Jul 26, 2024
    Show notes

    It is a general rule of thumb that richer societies are happier societies. This is true across countries, as GDP and life satisfaction are highly correlated. And it is true across time. Countries get happier as they get richer. But there is a caveat to this general principle. Which is that the United States is not nearly as contented as its gross national income would predict.


    In fact, the U.S. is, as we’ve covered on this show, in a bit of a gloom rut. It has now been nearly two decades since a majority of Americans have told pollsters at NBC that they’re satisfied with the way things are going. This hope drought has no precedent in modern polling. NBC itself reported that “We have never before seen this level of sustained pessimism in the 30-year-plus history of the poll.”


    Polls show that faith in government, business, and other institutions is in free fall—especially among conservatives. But they also show that conservatives are generally happy with their life and in their relationships. If conservatives have happiness without trust, American progressives seem to have trust without happiness.


    In a recent paper called “The Politics of Depression,” published by the journal Social Science & Medicine–Mental Health, the epidemiologist Catherine Gimbrone and several coauthors showed that young progressives are significantly more depressed than conservatives, have been for years, and the gap is growing over time. Other studies, including the General Social Survey, show the same.


    Why are young progressives so sad? Today’s guest is Greg Lukianoff, the president and CEO of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) and coauthor of ‘The Coddling of the American Mind.’ He has written intelligently, critically, and emotionally about happiness, depression, politics, and progressivism.


    If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at PlainEnglish@Spotify.com.


    Host: Derek Thompson

    Guest: Greg Lukianoff

    Producer: Devon Baroldi


    Links:

    "People in Richer Countries Tend to Be Happier" https://ourworldindata.org/happiness-and-life-satisfaction

    "The Politics of Depression" by Catherine Gimbrone et al https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666560321000438

    "How to Understand the Well-Being Gap Between Liberals and Conservatives" by Musa al-Gharbi https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2023/03/how-to-understand-the-well-being-gap-between-liberals-and-conservatives/

    "The Coddling of the American Mind" The Atlantic essay by Jonathan Haidt and Greg Lukianoff https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/

    ‘The Coddling of the American Mind’ [book] https://www.amazon.com/Coddling-American-Mind-Intentions-Generation/dp/0735224897

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    Harsh Truths About 2024 and the Future of the U.S. Economy Jul 19, 2024
    Show notes

    On today's episode: the state of American politics and the future of America's economy. Derek discusses a media myth in the aftermath of the failed Trump assassination attempt and reviews three basic truths about Joe Biden's doomed presidential bid. Then, Chicago Fed president Austan Goolsbee joins the show to answer Derek's blunt question, "Are you going to cut rates next month?" Plus, they discuss the Federal Reserve, how it works, how he sees the economy, whether high rates are constraining housing production, and whether Trump's signature economic policy idea—high tariffs in an age of global inflation—would help the U.S. economy. (TLDR: No.)

    If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at PlainEnglish@Spotify.com.

    Host: Derek Thompson

    Guest: Austan Goolsbee

    Producer: Devon Baroldi

    Links:

    “Stop Pretending You Know How This Will End,” Derek Thompson, The Atlantic

    “Hit or Miss? The Effect of Assassinations on Institutions and War,” by Benjamin Jones and Benjamin Olken

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    "The Weirdest Housing Market in Recent History" Jul 12, 2024
    Show notes

    Skyrocketing rates, shrinking affordability: The U.S. housing market is a mess. It's also a bit of a mystery. Why are prices still sky-high, even though many measures of demand are weak? If the supply of new homes is nearing a historic high, how come the inventory for existing homes is close to a historic low? Today's guests agree that this is one of the weirdest housing markets in recent history. Mike Simonsen, president founder of Altos Research, and Lance Lambert, cofounder and editor-in-chief of Residential Club, join to talk about the state of the U.S. housing market—what makes it ugly, what makes it weird, and what would have to happen to make it better.

    If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at PlainEnglish@Spotify.com.

    Host: Derek Thompson

    Guests: Mike Simonsen & Lance Lambert

    Producer: Devon Baroldi

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