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    Pep Talks for Artists

    A podcast offering encouraging words to all those shuffling along the artist’s road – with your host, Amy Talluto. Stop by the Pepisodes for artist interviews, art book reviews and host-made audio essays – all made to offer serious artists advice, encouragement and fun studio listening because – we deserve it.
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    Ep 100: Paul Klee's Pluralism (Plus Magritte) Sep 28, 2026
    Show notes

    Paul Klee loved working in a wide variety of styles at once in his paintings: abstract, representational, runic or symbolic. His oeuvre literally contains multitudes. I recently saw a show of his late works in New York at the Jewish Museum and was amazed at how many mediums and approaches to painting were on display. This episode honors him and his radical reconsideration of Painting with a side detour on Magritte. Come along for a wild ride!


    Klee works mentioned: Around the Fish 1926, Suffering Fruit 1934, Struck from the List 1933, This Star Teaches Bending 1940, Angel, Still Female 1939, Drinking Companion 1931


    Magritte works mentioned: Le Stropiat (version 1 and 2-both 1948), Jean-Marie 1948, A Stroke of Luck 1948, Seasickness 1948, The Famine 1948, The Pictorial Content 1948

    Host note: “The Famine” cheekily referenced the characters in a popular French comic series of the day called Adventures of the Pieds Nickelés (nickel plated feet)* created by Louis Forton and told the story of 3 bumbling and good for nothing criminals who constantly fail at their mission.

    *a French term for lazy slackers

    See more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Pieds_Nickel%C3%A9s


    Artists mentioned: Paul Klee, Hilma af Klint, Agnes Martin, Giorgio Morandi, Hannah Wilke, René Magritte, Pablo Picasso, Emil Nolde, Wassily Kandinsky, Henri Rousseau, Ludwig Meidner, Richard Seewald, Oskar Kokoschka, Henri Matisse, Giorgio de Chirico, Gerhard Richter, Pierre-Auguste Renoir, André Breton, Diego Velázquez (Las Meninas 1656)


    Writers mentioned: Ralph Waldo Emerson, Sarah Gottesman, Charles W. Haxthausen, Wilhelm Hausenstein, Louis Scutenaire, George Kubler, Michael Foucault


    Links:

    Paul Klee: Other Possible Worlds exhibit at the Jewish Museum 2026

    https://thejewishmuseum.org/exhibitions/paul-klee-other-possible-worlds/


    Paul Klee’s Bauhaus Assignments:

    https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-how-to-be-an-artist-according-to-paul-klee


    Picasso’s Return to Order Period:

    https://theculturalcritic.com/picassos-conflict-how-the-great-war-caused-him-to-radically-change-his-style/


    Magritte's Vache Period:

    https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-9-times-historys-greatest-artists-made-bad-artworks

    https://www.tate.org.uk/tate-etc/issue-11-autumn-2007/ill-find-way-slip-great-big-incongruity-time-time

    https://www.moma.org/artists/3692-rene-magritte


    Hannah Wilke's Flower Series:

    https://www.marcselwynfineart.com/exhibitions/hannah-wilke2#tab:thumbnails;tab-1:slideshow


    Foucault's essay "The Order of Things" (Les Mots et les Choses) on Velázquez and Klee:

    https://monoskop.org/images/a/a2/Foucault_Michel_The_Order_of_Things_1994.pdf


    More on Charles W. "Mark" Haxthausen's paper: Paul Klee, Wilhelm Hausenstein, and the “Problem of Style” (2014)

    Watch: https://www.ias.edu/ideas/2014/haxthausen-klee-video

    Read: https://www.academia.edu/6541479/Paul_Klee_Wilhelm_Hausenstein_and_the_Problem_of_Style_publication_


    Paul Klee books:

    Paul Klee: Other Possible Worlds by Mason Klein, Senior Curator at The Jewish Museum

    Paul Klee: Life and Work by Michael Baumgartner, Christine Hopfengart, Fabienne Eggelhöfer, Osama Okuda


    Amy's Solo exhibition in Los Angeles (Atwater Village)

    "The Weight of Colors" at The Middle Room

    3229 Glendale Blvd, Los Angeles, CA

    Oct 24-Nov 22, 2026

    Reception, Sat Oct 24 6-8 and Artist Talk, Sun Oct 25 1-3

    Come on out, y'all!

    https://www.themiddleroomgallery.com/exhibitions


    Thank you, Peps Listeners!


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    Ep 99: Collage, Lee Krasner and Jess w/ Jennifer Coates Aug 20, 2026
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    We're talking collage! Jennifer Coates joins me in a quest to get to the heart of why collage is such a powerful generator in the studio. We also take a look at 2 artists who used collage in different ways: Lee Krasner and Jess. Krasner used collage at certain key moments to bridge bodies of work, and Jess used collage as his main ecstatic medium spanning more than 4 decades of his output. As Krasner teaches us: "Knife or scissors...no tear! "


    Works by Lee Krasner mentioned: Seated Figure 1938-9; Milkweed, Stretched Yellow, Desert Moon, Bird Talk, Blue Level (all 1955); Imperfect Indicative 1976 (Visit Kasmin Gallery for images)


    Works by Jess mentioned: Blasted Beauty 1954, The Translations series, Paste-Ups series, Assemblies series, Necrofacts series, Salvages series, Narkissos series 1976-1991, The Unentitled Graces 1978, Dyslecstasy 1991 (See all of his works at https://jesscollins.org/)


    Glue Tawk™: Jennifer prefers Matte Medium and Amy agrees but suggests using UHU stick for thin papers


    Links to watch/listen:

    ⁠James Kalm Report⁠ on the Outsider Art Fair

    ⁠Recording Artists: Radical Women Podcast:⁠ "Deal With It" on Lee Krasner

    ⁠Inside New York's Art World ⁠1978 interview by Barbara Lee Diamondstein Spielvogel with Lee Krasner


    Proto-collage and assemblage objects & installations: Opificio delle Pietre Dure - Florence, Limoges Casket/Reliquary 13th c, Musée des Beaux-Arts de Lille, Capuchin Crypt under Santa Maria della Concezione dei Cappuccini, Rome, Shell Grotto, Margate, Kent, Paper lace valentines of the Victorian era, Wishing Trees of Cornwall


    Artists mentioned: Hannah Hoch, Lee Krasner, Jess, Artists of the DADA movement, Georges Braque, Pablo Picasso, Wangechi Mutu, Mark Bradford, Chris Martin, Thomas Lanigan-Schmidt, Henri Matisse, Hans Hoffman, Piet Mondrian, Illuminators of the Book of Kells, Anne Ryan, Paul Klee, Amy Sillman, Lari Pittman, Marcel Duchamp, Clyfford Still, Hieronymus Bosch, Joseph Cornell, Andrea Burgay, Max-o-matic, Richard Diebenkorn, Robert Motherwell, Henri Matisse, Max Ernst, Kurt Schwitters, Grete Stern


    Writers mentioned: Art Reporter and Critic: Stuart Preston; Poets: Robert Duncan and John Ashbery; Gail Levin; Charles Baudelaire; Edgar Allen Poe


    Our Book Nook (incl Collage Resources):

    Kolaj Magazine and online collage artist directory

    The Weird Show online survey of contemporary collage

    Cut Me Up Magazine

    "Waste Not Want Not: An Inquiry into What Women Saved and Assembled—FEMMAGE" Essay by Miriam Schapiro and Melissa Meyer

    Lee Krasner: A Biography by Gail Levin

    Jess: To and From the Printed Page by Jess

    Fragmentary Forms: A New History of Collage by Freya Gowrley

    Collage by Women: 50 Essential Contemporary Artists by Rebeka Elizegi and Blanca Ortiga

    Cutting Edges: Contemporary Collage published by Gestalten

    Collage: Assembling Contemporary Art edited by Anthony Downey

    Robert Motherwell: Early Collages by Robert Motherwell, Susan Davidson, Megan Fontanella, Brandon Taylor, Jeffrey Warda


    Find my guest, Jennifer Coates, online:

    See her recent exhibition "Aniline Sky" at 1053 Gallery

    Her instagram: @jennifercoates666


    Thank you, Jennifer! Thank you, Peps Listeners!


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    Ep 98: Book Talks: Drawings & Observations by Louise Bourgeois / Lawrence Rinder w/ Mandolyn Wilson Rosen Jul 05, 2026
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    Louise Bourgeois Part 2!

    Mandolyn Wilson Rosen is back in her Book Talks seat to help me dissect a new delicious art book: Drawings & Observations by Louise Bourgeois with Lawrence Rinder. Bourgeois referred to these sketches as her "thought feathers" and revealed her thinking behind the reproduced works in recordings transcribed by curator Lawrence Rinder. It was so cool to get these direct insights into her imagery.

    This episode is a sequel to the recording right before this one (about our trip to view Louise Bourgeois' NYC home). Check out Part 1 if you missed it!


    The Book/Monograph:

    Louise Bourgeois: Drawings and Observations, by Louise Bourgeois with Lawrence Rinder, pub 1995


    The Exhibition that the monograph accompanied:

    "Louise Bourgeois: Drawings" University of California, Berkeley's University Art Museum (UAM) from January 24 to March 24, 1996


    Works mentioned:

    View all here: https://www.amytalluto.com/lbpod

    Page 20 "Self Portrait" 1938 Pencil on paper

    Page 26-7 "Untitled" 1940

    Page 38 "Le Rebus" 1943

    Page 44-5 "Femme Maison" 1947 ink on paper

    Page 68-9 "Untitled" 1949 red ink and charcoal on paper

    Page 76-7 "Untitled" 1947 crayon, pen & ink and pencil

    Page 104-5 "Untitled" 1950 charcoal

    Page 114-5 "Untitled" 1950 ink on paper

    Page 126-7 "Untitled" 1967 ink and gouache on paper

    Page 156-7 "Untitled" 1988 Watercolor and Pencil on paper


    Artists mentioned: Jen Schwarting, Jean Michel Basquiat, Paul Klee, Joan Miro, Robert Gober, Nina Bovasso, Vicki Sher, Jack Whitten, Meret Oppenheim, Peter Halley


    Other books mentioned: Peter Halley: Recent Essays 1990-1996 Edgewise Press, Inside the Studio: Two Decades of Talks with Artists in New York by Independent Curators International, New York, Jack Whitten: Notes from the Woodshed Hauser & Wirth

    Thank you to my guest Mandolyn Wilson Rosen! Find her online at:

    ⁠MandolynWilsonRosen.com⁠ and IG ⁠@mandolyn_rosen⁠


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    Ep 97: Visiting the Louise Bourgeois House w Beka Goedde and Mandolyn Wilson Rosen May 25, 2026
    Show notes

    Beka Goedde and Mandolyn Wilson Rosen join me this episode to unpack our experience visiting renowned artist, Louise Bourgeois' home in NYC. We entered her historic brownstone and were immediately transported to another world and time. Louise lived a full life but was very much an artistic homebody. She made her home her studio in every sense of the word, stuffing each room full of materials to be on hand whenever inspiration struck. She found a way to balance family life with making her work and rode out long career lulls with grace and determination. Come along with us as we discuss our peek inside her sanctuary.


    More about Louise Bourgeois: https://www.moma.org/artists/710-louise-bourgeois

    https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2013/oct/18/bourgeois

    https://hicarquitectura.com/2022/12/louise-bourgeoise-femme-maison/

    Great film about Louise Bourgeois: Louise Bourgeois: The Spider, the Mistress, and the Tangerine 2008

    Bourgeois works mentioned: "Arched Figure" 1993, "Maman" 1999

    Bourgeois exhibitions mentioned: The Women at Peggy Guggenheim's Art of This Century gallery NYC 1945, Eccentric Abstraction, curated by Lucy Lippard at The Fischbach Gallery NYC 1966


    Artists / Writers mentioned: Joyce Kosloff, Faith Ringgold, Sylvia Sleigh, Lucy Lippard, Linda Nochlin, Joan Snyder, Nancy Spero, Howardena Pindell, Delacroix, Matisse, Suzanne Valadon


    Beka mentioned Felix Harlan, master printmaker and co-founder of Harlan & Weaver, a fine art print publishing studio who made so many Bourgeois prints.


    1973 Feminists' letter to William Rubin at MoMA: https://brooklynrail.org/2017/11/verbatim/Louise-Bourgeois-Breaking-the-Mold/


    Further reading: Louise Bourgeois: Drawings and Observations, Ed. Lawrence Rinder; Runaway Girl: The Artist Louise Bourgeois , a YA book by Jan Greenberg (with Sandra Jordan); "New York Real Estate and the Ruin of American Art" by Josh Kline / October


    Thank you to my guests, Beka Goedde and Mandolyn Wilson Rosen! Find them online at:

    BekaGoedde.com and @bekagoedde

    MandolynWilsonRosen.com and @mandolyn_rosen


    Thank you to the wonderful guides and archivists at the Louise Bourgeois home who made this episode possible.


    Thank you, Peps Listeners!


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    Ep 96: Book Talks: Notes from the Woodshed by Jack Whitten w/ Mandolyn Wilson Rosen Mar 12, 2026
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    In this new Book Talks episode, Mandolyn Wilson Rosen is back to help me review a new art book: Jack Whitten: Notes From the Woodshed, Edited by Katy Siegel for Hauser & Wirth. Equal parts profound, strident and hilarious, Jack Whitten's (1939-2018) 50 year studio log packs a wallop. And it's meaty at 581 pages, so we had lots to discuss! Stick around to hear some sage advice, inspiring tales of studio experimentation and even some positive affirmations from this incredible painter and sculptor.


    Links to shows, videos, articles mentioned:⁠"

    Jack Whitten: The Messenger" Exhibition at MOMA 2025⁠

    ⁠"Jack Whitten: Ready-nows" Two Coats of Paint Blog⁠

    ⁠⁠Xerox PARC Artist-in-Residence (PAIR) program⁠⁠

    ⁠Jack Whitten – ‘The Political is in the Work’ by TateShots⁠

    ⁠Jack Whitten: An Artist's Life | Art21 "Extended Play"⁠

    ⁠Uncovering Jack Whitten’s mysterious abstractions | HOW TO SEE (MOMA)⁠


    Artists mentioned: Willlem DeKooning, Robert Blackburn, Romare Bearden, Jacob Lawrence, Norman Lewis, Barnett Newman, Franz Kline, Gerhard Richter, Richard Serra, Ron Gorchov, Sol Lewitt, Frank Stella, Caravaggio, Berrisford Boothe, Kerry Downey, Amy Sillman, Jake Berthot

    Whitten works mentioned: "The Messenger: For Art Blakey," "Homecoming: For Miles," "Black Monolith 2: Homage to Ralph Ellison, The Invisible Man," "Head IV Lynching," Homage to Malcolm," "King's Wish (Martin Luther's Dream)," "King's Garden," The Slab Paintings, "Asa's Palace," Gray Paintings, Greek Alphabet Paintings, "Dead Reckoning I," "9-11-01," "Apps for Obama," "Nine Fire CDS: For the Fire Spitter (Jane Cortez)," "Zeitgeist Traps (For Michael Goldberg)," "Quantum Wall VIII for Arshile Gorky (My First Love in Painting)," "Crystal Palace: For Jeanne Siegel"

    Philosophers Jack loved: Immanuel Kant, Martin Heidegger, Edmund Husserl, Taha Hussein (Egyptian, Arab Renaissance), Friedrich Nietzsche, Slavoj Žižek

    Other artist logs:

    Day Book by Anne Truitt

    The Andy Warhol Diaries Edited by Pat Hackett

    Philip Guston: Collected Writings, Lectures and Conversations Edited by Clark Coolidge

    Agnes Martin: Painting, Writings, Remembrances Edited by Arne Glimcher


    Where to get the book:

    Hauser & Wirth , Abe Books, Thrift Books, Ebay, Amazon


    Please find Mandolyn Wilson Rosen online here: ⁠⁠mandolynwilsonrosen.com⁠⁠ and IG ⁠⁠@mandolyn_rosen⁠⁠


    Thank you, Mandy! Thank you, Peps Listeners!


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    Ep 95: About Dawn Clements w/ Judy Glantzman Jan 26, 2026
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    Artist, Judy Glantzman, is back on the pod this week to discuss her friend and incredible artist, Dawn Clements (1958-2018). Come along with me as I hear more about this brave, innovative artist who celebrated the idea of the ungovernable doodle. Her ink and gouache drawings span walls and rooms, yet she often made them folded up on trains and while lying in bed. It was wonderful to hear Judy's recollections of this artist I have long-admired.


    Exhibitions mentioned:

    James Barron Art "Dawn Clements: Paper Flowers" 2025

    Pierogi "Dawn Clements at the Boiler" 2010

    MANA Contemporary, Jersey City, NJ "Dawn Clements, Living Large: A Survey, " 2021

    Bates College Museum of Art, Lewiston, ME "Back and Forth" Dawn Clements and Marc Leuthold 2008

    Museum of Modern Art "High and Low: Modern Art and Popular Culture" 1990-91

    ...and keep an eye out for Dawn's upcoming show at the RISD Museum!

    Dawn Clements works discussed: "Mrs. Jessica Drummond's Bedroom (My Reputation, 1946)" 2010, "Kitchen and Bathroom" 2003, "Tabletop (Black and White)" 2010, "The Boiler" 2010, "Triptych (Yaddo)" 2017, "Maele Luster" 2011, "Grass" 2017, "Oval" 1995-2000, Collaboration with Marc Leuthold 2008 PLUS find more images at Pierogi

    Residencies mentioned: Sint Trudo Abdij (Maele, Belgium), MacDowell, Yaddo, Civitella Ranieri Foundation

    Other artists mentioned: Janet Fish, Fra Angelico ("Noli me tangere", 1440–42. Fresco from the convent of San Marco, Florence), Jane Freilicher, Catherine Murphy, Morandi, David Wojnarowicz, Vija Celmins, George Condo, Gina Ruggeri, Charles Burchfield, Charles Garabedian, Mary Temple

    Book mentioned: "Looking at the Overlooked" by Norman Bryson

    Links to online talks:

    Brooklyn Rail Panel: "Living Large: Dawn Clements"

    Vermont Studio Center Lecture


    Dawn's favorite art materials: PAPER • Fabriano Accademia roll paper, 80-lb., and Strathmore 400 drawing roll paper, 100-lb. INKS AND PENCILS • Sumi ink (both black and vermilion)• ballpoint pen (Bic Crystal or PaperMate medium point black)• No. 2 pencils WATERCOLOR • Sennelier GOUACHE: • Winsor & Newton BRUSHES • soft round watercolor

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    Thank you to my guest, Judy Glantzman! Don't miss her upcoming solo show:

    "Playing with Dolls "

    Judy Glantzman at

    PPOW Gallery

    Feb 6 - March 14, 2026

    390 Broadway, 2nd Floor (2nd location)
    New York, NY 10013

    Also, find Judy on IG: @judyglantzman


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    Ep 94: Women Mystics in Art w/ Jennifer Coates (Part 2) Dec 06, 2025
    Show notes

    We're back for Part 2! Artist, Jennifer Coates joins me again to discuss 2 modern-day women mystic artists: Cornish Visionary, Ithell Colquhoun and Desert Transcendentalist, Agnes Pelton.


    Ithell Colquhoun links and mentions:

    "Papers of Ithell Colquhoun (1906-1988)" archive at Tate Modern

    The Living Stones: Cornwallbook by Ithell Colquhoun

    "The Mantic Stain" 1949 essay by Ithell Colquhoun

    "Dance of the Nine Opals" 1942 painting by Ithell Colquhoun

    "Scylla" 1938 painting by Ithell Colquhoun

    "Alcove" 1946 painting by Ithell Colquhoun

    Elliott Green, artist

    Ithell Colquhoun: Between Worlds ed Katy Norris

    "Taro of Color": Ithell Colquhoun's Tarot Deck 1977


    Agnes Pelton links and mentions:

    Transcendental Painting Group, incl Raymond Johnson

    Hilma Af Klint

    Helena Blavatsky & Theosophy

    Alchemy 1937-9

    Mother of Silence 1933

    Photo of Agnes Pelton in Cathedral City 1932


    Mystical Book Nook

    ⁠The Living Stones: Cornwall⁠book by Ithell Colquhoun

    Ithell Colquhoun: Between Worlds⁠ ed Katy Norris

    Practical Mysticism by Evelyn Underhill

    On Mysticism by Simon Critchley

    Holy Feast and Holy Fast: The Religious Significance of Food to Medieval Women by Caroline Walker Bynum

    Ithell Colquhoun: Genius of The Fern Loved Gully by Amy Hale

    Weird Studies Podcast: Amy Hale episode

    Medieval Women: the Curators' Lunchtime Lecture on You Tube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUgweMmuhyI

    Medieval Women: Voices and Visions (British Library) ed Julian Harrison & Eleanor Jackson

    Agnes Pelton: Desert Transcendentalist (Phoenix Art Museum) ed Gilbert Vicario

    The Spiritual in Art: Abstract Painting from 1890 to 1985 ed Maurice Tuchman


    Thanks so much to my guest cohost, Jennifer Coates!

    Find her online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠web⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠IG⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


    Thanks to you for listening!


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    Ep 93: Women Mystics in Art w/ Jennifer Coates (Part 1) Nov 14, 2025
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    In this episode, Jennifer Coates returns to help me explore the spookily wonderful topic of Women Mystics and their connection to art and artists. In Part 1, we cover mystics from the Pythia of Ancient Greece to ecstatic visionaries like Hildegard von Bingen of the late Medieval era.

    P.S.: Keep an eye out for Part 2 where we dip into our fave 20th-century mystical artists.


    Ancient Mystics mentioned: The Pythia, priestesses of Apollo and the women behind the Oracle at Delphi (Greek) and the process of Dream Incubation by the Dream Oracles (Greek)

    Pythia/Oracle of Delphi deep dive (thanks, Gary!):

    1. ⁠https://tinyurl.com/y8798eap⁠

    2. ⁠https://tinyurl.com/4vxkcsnu⁠

    3. ⁠https://tinyurl.com/mtz3rn24


    Medieval Mystics mentioned: Joan of Arc, Christine Carpenter (Anchoress), Julian of Norwich (Anchoress), Margery Kempe, Birgitta of Sweden, Teresa of Avila, Hildegard of Bingen and her artworks "Scivias 2.1: The Redeemer," "Scivias 1.6: The Choirs of Angels," "Book of Divine Works, Part 2, Vision 1: The Parts of the Earth: Living, Dying, and Purgatory" 1150-1230 and song "O Viridissima Virga" /“O branch of freshest green”

    Medieval Illuminator mentioned: Sibylla von Bondorf and her painting, "St Clare and a Group of Nuns Mourning St Francis of Assisi" 1478


    Films mentioned: "Anchoress" 1993, "Vision: From the Life of Hildegard von Bingen" 2009 starring Barbara Sukowa, dir by Margarethe von Trotta

    Book mentioned: "Medieval Women: Voices & Visions," ed by Eleanor Jackson and Julian Harrison

    Potpourri: Jennifer's morbidanatomy.org class "Sensing the Supernatural Dead" taught by Jamie L. Brummitt


    Thanks so much to my guest cohost, Jennifer Coates!

    Find her online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠web⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠IG⁠⁠⁠⁠


    Thanks to you for listening!


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    Ep 92: Some Thoughts on Drawing (Part 3) Oct 20, 2025
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    Artists, Jennifer Coates, David Humphrey and Catherine Haggarty and are back for Part 3 of our series on Drawing. This time we switched things up and each artist brought both an artwork from art history and a related work of their own to discuss. Get ready to hear some vivid "ekphrasis" on our drawing picks (new vocab word unlocked-thanks, David!).


    Jennifer brought “The Castle with the Angel” 1863 by Victor Hugo and her own mixed media on yupo drawing “Heads in the Brambles” 2025

    David brought Odilon Redon's "Self Portrait" 1880 and his own painted drawing "Before the Couch” 2023

    Catherine brought Catherine Murphy's “Rose's Coloring Book” 2011 and her own wax crayon work "Bus Drawing" 2024

    Amy brought Paul Klee's "Ugly Angel" 1939 and her own graphite drawing "Reversal (Ingres)" 2024


    Other artworks mentioned: The Sketchbooks of John Constable, Eugene Delacroix and JMW Turner, Catherine Murphy "In the Grass" 2011, Kerry James Marshall "Untitled" 2009, Paul Klee "Untitled (Last Still Life)" 1940, "Still Ugly Angel" 1940, "Vigilant Angel" 1939, "Bell Angel" 1939, "Doubting Angel" 1939, "Angel in a Crisis II" 1939 , "Mis- Angel " 1939, "Angelus Novus" 1920, "Angel of Care on a Steep Road" 1931

    Books mentioned: "Hunchback of Notre Dame" and "Les Miserables" by Victor Hugo, "The Angels of Paul Klee" by Boris Friedewald, "Exploring Masterpieces : a Fact-Filled Coloring Book" 1990

    Artists mentioned: Victor Hugo, Odilon Redon, Catherine Murphy, Paul Klee, John Constable, Eugene Delacroix, JMW Turner, Kerry James Marshall, Josephine Halvorson, Jasper Johns (his Mind/Mirror retrospective at Whitney Museum), Judy Glantzman, Franz Marc, Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres, Jane Fine, James Esber, Erica Svec, Zachary Wollard


    More about the speakers:

    Jennifer Coates: ⁠⁠⁠web⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠IG⁠⁠⁠

    David Humprhrey: ⁠⁠web⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠IG⁠⁠

    Catherine Haggarty: ⁠⁠web⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠IG⁠

    Amy Talluto: web and IG


    Upcoming exhibitions:

    Jennifer and David have work at 1Gap Gallery in "2>1" Curated by Michael Holden thru Jan 5, 2026 (Brooklyn)

    Amy has work in:

    "Eyes in the Sky" (solo) at theNextWaveGallery at SHOWROOM at Guerra Paint & Pigments curated by Nicole Castaldo thru Oct 31, 2025 (Maspeth-Queens)

    "Often I am Permitted to Return to a Meadow" at Active Space curated by Patrick Bower and Robert Zurer of Immaterial Projects Nov 7 - Nov 22, 2025 (Bushwick-Brooklyn)

    "A Gnawing Thought " at Utopia Gallery curated by Mandolyn Wilson Rosen Dec 6 -Jan 24, 2026 (Kingston, NY)

    "Relic" at Platform Project Space curated by Alyssa Fanning, Michael Lee and Patrick Neal Jan 30-Feb 5, 2026 (Dumbo-Brooklyn)

    Congrats to Catherine and Andrew Prayzner on their beautiful baby girl, Juliette Margaret!


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    Ep 91: Dare to Be Stupid in the Studio Sep 16, 2025
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    This is an episode about how acting on dumb ideas in the studio can be just the thing to get you out of artist's block or help you make a big change. Get ready for some choice bon mots from the likes of Weird Al Yankovic, Laurie Anderson, William Kentridge and others on the sage subject of being open to studio stupidity.


    Mentions: Weird Al Yankovic, Laurie Anderson, William Kentridge, Jack Whitten, Epictetus, Susan Sontag, Mister T, Twyla Tharp


    Writings mentioned:

    https://brooklynrail.org/2022/06/art/Laurie-Anderson-with-Paul-D-Miller/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/06/magazine/laurie-anderson.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/17/podcasts/the-daily/laurie-anderson.html

    https://screencrush.com/weird-al-yankovic-interview/

    https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2014/08/13/his-own-wavelength/

    The Creative Habit: Learn It and Use It for Life by Twyla Tharp

    https://shop.hauserwirth.com/products/jack-whitten-notes-from-the-woodshed-updated-edition?_pos=1&_psq=notes+from+&_ss=e&_v=1.0


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