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    Parents At Work

    A podcast for working parents presented by Lori Mihalich-Levin, JD, founder of Mindful Return, and Jason Levin, MBA, founder of Ready Set Launch, exploring work-life integration in all different roles, industries, and professions.

    Techniques for parents in dealing with everything from sleep deprivation and managing work-life issues, to help you excel at work while also raising your family.

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    Division of Household Labor – Part 2 with Sergio Rosario EP 45 May 17, 2022
    Show notes

    Lori Mihalich-Levin and Jason Levin continue with their two-part series on an issue that working parents in all careers, roles, and industries struggle with: how household labor gets divided.

    In the second part of this series, Lori and Jason are excited to have an amazing dad, Sergio Rosario, joining them to carry on the conversation about the important, emotionally-charged, and controversial topic of who does what in the home!

    Sergio was born and raised in Puerto Rico. Nine years ago, his life and work brought him to Virginia. He met his beautiful wife, also from Puerto Rico, and a US Army officer, seven years ago. They live in Fayetteville, North Carolina, but they will soon be moving back to Virginia. Sergio is a social worker, musician, educator, fatherhood advocate, the founder of Soy Super Papa, and the course coach and lead for Mindful Return’s Spanish Language Working Dad Course. Sergio and his wife have a five-year-old daughter named Stella.

    In this episode of Parents at Work, Sergio dives into what makes household labor a critical topic and why it is so full of emotion. He offers some excellent advice to help couples start a conversation about household labor and avoid allowing emotion to interfere with our discussions about chores. He also talks about the benefits of good communication and explains how he progressed towards taking responsibility in his relationship.

    Stay tuned to today’s conversation to hear what Sergio has to say about finding common ground around a healthy division of household labor!

    Show highlights:

    1. When he met his wife, Sergio knew that he would have to make some lifestyle changes! (5:08)
    2. Sergio explains what motivated him to start helping parents communicate better. (9:03)
    3. Why does Sergio think household labor is such a critical and emotionally-charged topic? (11:55)
    4. Sergio and his wife approach their household labor as a common goal with no gender roles assigned. (12:37)
    5. Sergio offers some advice to help people avoid becoming emotional around household tasks. (14:07)
    6. Sergio describes the systems that he and his wife use in their home. (15:35)
    7. How Sergio and his wife progressed in their relationship around issues related to household labor. (21:42)
    8. How Sergio and his family have benefited from having good communication. (24:28)
    9. Lori randomly draws a birthday celebration card from Eve Rodsky’s Fair Play deck for Sergio. They talk about birthday celebrations to see what comes up around the division of labor on that topic. (27:10)
    10. Sergio explains how partners can start a conversation about household labor. (32:37)
    11. How to address breakdowns in the division of labor. (38:11)
    12. The importance of having conversations about gender roles. (41:04)

    Links and resources:

    Mindful Return’s Spanish Language Working Dad Course

    Soy Super Papa

    Mentioned in this episode:

    Get the new book: Relationships to Infinity, the Art and Science of Keeping In Touch from Ready, Set, Launch

    Head over to www.readysetlaunch.net to grab your copy of the book, Relationships to Infinity, the Art and Science of Keeping In Touch.

    Ready Set Launch Book


    Division of Household Labor – Part 1 with Eve Rodsky EP 44 May 16, 2022
    Show notes

    In this episode, Lori Mihalich-Levin and Jason Levin took a detour from their usual pattern of interviewing moms and dads in different industries and sectors to discuss an issue that all working parents struggle with - how household labor gets divided. They have created a two-part series of special guests to dive into this important, juicy, and emotionally-charged topic!

    Today, Lori and Jason are delighted to welcome Eve Rodsky to the podcast. Eve is a mom and a working parent celebrity. She is the author of the New York Times best-selling book Fair Play: A Game-Changing Solution for When You Have Too Much to Do (and More Life to Live). She is also the author of the brand-new book, Find Your Unicorn Space: Reclaim Your Creative Life in a Too-Busy World.

    Eve is a lawyer, and she has done extensive work in family mediation, strategy, and organizational management. She is married to Seth, and they have three children. Zach is thirteen, Ben is ten, and Anna is five.

    In this episode of Parents at Work, Eve unpacks the relationship evolution that takes place in a marriage after the children come along. She shares the Fair Play origin story, explains the power of having systems in place, and plays a game with the Fair Play cards to help couples understand how baggage and assumptions make things emotionally charged.

    Tune into today’s conversation to learn about the value of systems and find out how couples can share household chores without triggering each other.

    Show highlights:

    1. Eve talks about her first job as a bar mitzvah dancer. (4:16)
    2. How Eve started helping parents communicate better. (7:24)
    3. Eve explains why things become so emotionally charged in the home after the children start to arrive. (12:38)
    4. Eve plays a game with her Fair Play cards and explains what they represent. (14:10)
    5. Playing with the Fair Play cards helps people understand the baggage that tends to get caught up in the division of labor in the home. (23:46)
    6. Fair Play is an ownership mindset and a no excuse zone. Eve explains how it started to work in her home. (24:07)
    7. It is vital to understand the context of why people do things. (26:45)
    8. Why are systems vital in the home? (30:00)
    9. How to unlock the secret formula for boundaries, distance, and communication and start the conversation. (36:49)
    10. What allowed Eve to feel that she had started to make progress with issues around the division of labor in her home? (39:47)
    11. How to reframe or replace toxic messages and create a new way forward. (43:40)
    12. Eve talks about the Fair Play documentary. (48:44)

    Mentioned in this episode:

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    Dads in Executive Search EP 43 May 05, 2022
    Show notes

    Lori Mihalich-Levin and Jason Levin continue with their tradition of interviewing moms and dads in different industries and sectors. In this episode of Parents at Work, Lori and Jason focus on the narrow yet important niche of dads in executive search and interview the dynamic dads, Julian Ha and Patrick Gray!

    Julian has been an Executive Search Consultant for more than fifteen years. He is a former corporate attorney, venture capitalist, and investment banker. He is a partner with Heidrick & Struggles, based in Washington DC, and a member of the firm’s CEO and Board practice. He leads the firm’s global Government Affairs and Trade Association work and co-leads their Professionals of Color Employee Resource Group.

    Julian has been married to his wife, Annette, for almost twenty years. They have two teenage boys, a ten-year-old daughter, and a rescue dog called Blake.

    Patrick is a former US Army Intelligence Officer. He has been an Executive Search Consultant for almost twenty years. He established the DC area office in the Aerospace and Defence practice at Raines International, and he leads their Industrial practice. Raines is an executive search and leadership advisory firm with nine offices.

    Patrick has been married to his wife, Megan, for 24 years, and they have four children. Aiden is 21, Colin is 18, Rylan is 15, and Tristan is 13.

    Today, Julian and Patrick share candidly about their lives as working parents. They talk about what it is like to be dads in executive search and dive into workplace flexibility, support, normalizing paternity leave, and shaping the conversation around working parenthood.

    Stay tuned today to hear Julian and Patrick’s uplifting working dad stories!

    Show highlights:

    1. Patrick’s working parent story started in graduate school. (3:31)
    2. Julian and his wife, Annette, wanted their kids to have an American suburban experience. (6:26)
    3. Julian likes to be an equal partner. He is very involved in raising his kids. (8:57)
    4. Working in executive search, Julian has found more flexibility to do pick-ups and drop-offs and be more involved in his kids’ activities. (9:59)
    5. Evolving technology in the executive search business has allowed Patrick more flexibility as a working dad. (10:56)
    6. Julian is fortunate to be part of a firm that is conscious of being collaborative, and in which parents are encouraged to support one another. (13:33)
    7. Patrick talks about the financial benefits available for families and the changing conversation around fathers taking parental leave. (16:04)
    8. Julian describes the pro-active support provided by his firm to allow fathers to take parental leave. (20:40)
    9. Parenthood has helped Patrick become more patient and empathetic over the years. (22:20)
    10. Being a parent has taught Julian time management skills and adaptability. (23:55)
    11. Patrick and Julian talk about their roles as dads in executive search to shape the conversation around working parenthood. (27:24)
    12. What can candidates do to work better with someone in executive search? (32:52)
    13. Patrick advises working parents to become resilient and learn to bounce back quickly! (39:04)
    14. Julian feels that flexibility is vital for working parents! (44:20)

    Links and resources:

    Heidrick & Struggles

    The Aerospace, Defense, and Government Services at Raines International

    The Association of Executive Search Consultants

    Blinkist

    The Daily Dad

    Books mentioned:

    Relationships to Infinity: The Art and Science of Keeping in Touch, by Jason Levin

    The 4-Hour Work Week by Tim Ferriss

    Mentioned in this episode:

    Get the new book: Relationships to Infinity, the Art and Science of Keeping In Touch from Ready, Set, Launch

    Head over to www.readysetlaunch.net to grab your copy of the book, Relationships to Infinity, the Art and Science of Keeping In Touch.

    Ready Set Launch Book


    Moms in Executive Search EP 42 Mar 08, 2022
    Show notes

    Lori Mihalich-Levin and Jason Levin are happy to be back after a winter hiatus! In this episode of Parents at Work, they pick up on their tradition of interviewing moms and dads in various industries and sectors.

    Today, Lori and Jason talk to two inspiring moms, Christina Cary and Debbie Tang, both professionals in executive search.

    Christina is a partner at Heidrick & Struggles. Her search work focuses on functional roles in human resources, including CHRO, CPO, divisional and regional heads of HR, and centers of excellence leaders in talent management, talent acquisition, learning and development, HR operations, total rewards, and diversity, equity, and inclusion.

    Christina is a member of the Georgetown University board of governors. She is a former president of Hoyas Unlimited, Georgetown’s annual fundraising arm for athletics that supports excellence across all the university’s 29 intercollegiate sports.

    Christina’s most important job is being a mom to her son Benjamin and daughter Abigail. Benjamin, known as Ben, Bennie, or Bubba, is a funny, curious, and loving little boy who will turn five in June. Abigail, also known as Abby, is a rambunctious, smiley, fearless little girl who will be two in April. Christina is married to Patrick (Pat), and the Carey family resides in Bethesda, Maryland.

    Debbie Tang is a partner at Bridge Partners, a black-owned executive search firm focused on diversity, equity, and inclusion. Debbie leads global executive searches in both the private and public sectors, from Fortune 100 companies to universities, non-profits, and government agencies. She recruits diverse senior executives across all functions, including CEO, CFO, General Counsels, Chief Legal Officers, Board, and regulatory leaders, in a wide variety of industries.

    Debbie is actively involved in the National Asian Pacific American Bar Association of the District of Columbia. She is also on the board of the Washington Project for the Arts and the Norwood School. She received a BA degree from McGill University and a JD from Washington and Lee School of Law, where she served on the Editorial Board of The Journal of Civil Rights and Social Justice.

    Debbie has a nine-year-old son, Ben, and a six-year-old daughter called C.C.

    In today’s conversation, Christina and Debbie talk openly and honestly about being parents in executive search. They share their struggles, talk about workplace support systems, and get into finding the right work-life balance. They also discuss the value of developing relationships with colleagues who are also parents and the support systems they would like to have in the workplace.

    Stay tuned today to hear Debbie and Christina’s encouraging accounts of their lives as working moms.

    Show highlights:

    1. When Debbie started working crazy hours as an associate in big law before she became a mom, she used to wonder how the female partners with kids did it. (4:13)
    2. Christina has experienced a lot of parent flexibility in the executive search world. (7:55)
    3. Christina found the unpredictable world of executive search an excellent training ground for becoming a parent. (10:52)
    4. Now that Debbie has kids, she finally understands why high-powered executives sometimes make million-dollar career decisions based on their children. (13:08)
    5. Debbie explains why she found it easier to be a parent in executive search during the pandemic, when travel demands were reduced. (13:35)
    6. There are days when Christine feels that she is not doing what she needs to do in any area of her life - as a mom or at work. (14:25)
    7. Being mentored by a colleague who is a father of five has helped Christina immensely. (15:53)
    8. Heidrick & Struggles has recently implemented a formalized employee assistance program for anyone experiencing mental health issues. (17:00)
    9. At Bridge, they have two partners working on every search. That has made a world of difference to Debbie as a working parent. (18:01)
    10. Blocking out time to do her work has helped Debbie approach her weeks. (19:18)
    11. Debbie would like to have some backup child care at work for emergencies. (26:01)
    12. Christina would welcome a formalized support system at work for parents re-entering the workforce after maternity leave. (27:06)
    13. Debbie explains her role in shaping the conversation around working parents. (34:26)
    14. At Heidrick, 23 partners got promoted in the last cycle. Six were in Christina’s practice. Five of these six were women, and three had multiple kids younger than six. (37:57)

    Links and resources:

    Heidrick & Struggles

    Bridge Partners

    Books mentioned:

    Back to Work After Baby: How to Plan and Navigate a Mindful Return from Maternity Leave by Lori Mihalich-Levin


    Relationships to Infinity: The Art and Science of Keeping in Touch by Jason Levin


    Playful Parenting by Lawrence J. Cohen


    CEO Dads EP 41 Dec 07, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode of Parents at Work, Lori Mihalich-Levin and Jason Levin continue with their tradition of interviewing moms and dads in various professional roles.

    Today, Lori and Jason talk to two amazing CEO dads, Bob Spagnoletti and Charles Bonello. Bob serves as the Chief Executive Officer of the District of Columbia Bar, and Charlie is the Co-founder and CEO of Vivvi, a provider of childcare and early education for children of all ages.

    The District of Columbia Bar is the largest integrated bar in the United States, with over 110,000 members practicing in fifty states and more than eighty countries. Bob also serves as the Executive Vice President of the DC Bar Pro Bono Center, an independent 501(c)(3) affiliate of the DC Bar. The Pro Bono Center recruits, trains, and mobilizes volunteer attorneys to take pro bono cases, serving individuals living in poverty who are at risk of losing their homes, livelihoods, and families. Bob and his husband, Bernard, have been together for twenty years. They have two boys, Hunter and Anthony, and one grandson.

    Vivvi has programs across the country, including on-campus, in-home, in-office, and virtual tutoring. Vivvi partners with employers of all different sizes to make child care more accessible and affordable to provide parents with peace of mind and allow employers the most powerful tool for recruiting retention and productivity. Before co-founding Vivvi, Charlie co-founded Grand Central Tech and was a venture partner at RTP Ventures. He is a graduate of Tufts University and currently lives in New York with his wife and their three children.

    In today’s conversation, Bob and Charlie share their respective journeys as working fathers who also happen to be CEOs. Bob talks about his and his husband’s experience of fostering and then adopting children as a same-sex couple. Charlie describes what it was like to go from an academic exercise in childcare to needing childcare in real life. They also discuss what it has been like, day-to-day, being both parents and CEOs, how their parenting experiences have enhanced their careers, and how their careers have helped them become better parents. Stay tuned to hear Bob and Charlie’s inspiring stories!

    Show highlights:

    1. Bob talks about how his older son, Hunter, came to him and Bernard, as a foster child, in the mid-90s. (3:52)
    2. Bob and Bernard adopted Anthony many years after Hunter came into their lives. (4:58)
    3. Bob worked the whole time, and Bernard, a special-ed teacher, took time off work when they had Anthony. (5:45)
    4. Charlie got to see first-hand the impact that child care had on working families and their employers. That inspired him to go out and make things happen! (8:40)
    5. Although it took a lot of juggling, serving families in need of childcare during the desperate time of COVID motivated Charlie and his wife, a nurse, to keep on going out and driving their programs. (10:05)
    6. Being both a parent and a CEO can sometimes feel all-consuming. Charlie explains how he manages to cope with both roles successfully. (12:34)
    7. Being a parent and a CEO has sensitized Bob to the parental concerns and issues that members of his staff are facing. (15:01)
    8. It was helpful for Bob to have a diverse executive team, great work colleagues, flexibility, and the power to make operating decisions when he became a parent. (17:34)
    9. Offering free childcare to all his employees has proven to be the most impactful and effective recruiting, retention, and productivity tool ever for Charlie. (20:47)
    10. The DC Bar now has a policy in place that allows moms, dads, and adoptive parents to take time off after the birth of their children. (26:40)
    11. Back-up care is an essential resource for working parents. (30:21)
    12. Bob feels the need to jump in and fix things that are broken. As a parent, he has worked hard to figure out who needs to be addressing a problem before jumping in. (32:55)
    13. Parenthood has helped Charlie improve his communication and how he empathizes with others and supports them. (38:44)

    Links and resources:

    The District of Columbia Bar

    Vivvi

    Audible

    Management Time: Who’s Got the Monkey, HBR article by William Oncken, Jr. and Donald L. Wass

    Books mentioned:

    The Pout-Pout Fish by Deborah Diesen

    Setting the Table by Danny Meyer


    Jason Levin’s upcoming book, Relationships to Infinity: The Art and Science of Keeping In Touch, will debut in January of 2022.


    CEO Moms EP 40 Nov 12, 2021
    Show notes

    Lori Mihalich-Levin and Jason Levin are back after taking a break to take an 8,153-mile car trip across the country! In this episode of Parents at Work, Lori and Jason interview Christian Nunes and Radhika Patil, two inspiring CEO moms.

    Christian Nunes, MBA, MS, LCSW, is the National President of the National Organization for Women (NOW). She has been the National President since August 2020. Before that, she was appointed Vice President by the board in May 2019. Christian is the second African American president in the organization’s history, the youngest person of color, and the youngest president of the organization in more than 40 years. Christian leads the organization through an intersectional lens and brings together a diverse affiliation of grassroots activists to work against structural sexism and racism. In addition, Christian is the founder of a behavioral health and consulting practice. Her mental health expertise assists her in understanding the constituents’ experience. It also helps her understand where policy and legislation are disconnected from the real experience of the people. Christian lives with her 2-year-old son, CJ, near Washington, D.C. Christian and CJ love taking short day trips to parks, outdoor festivals, zoos, and farms in the DMV area in their spare time.

    Radhika Patil is the co-founder and CEO of Cradlewise and mom to a 7-year old and a 4-year-old. Cradlewise is a baby tech company based in Silicon Valley. Their first product is a smart crib for babies with an integrated contactless baby monitor that automatically starts rocking along with music to soothe the baby back to sleep, just like a parent, at the first signs of wakeup. Since building the crib for her babies, Radhika has been on a sleep fitness mission to help other parents. Radhika’s husband is the other co-founder of Cradlewise. In her spare time, Radhika loves to hike, garden, and read books with her kids.

    In today’s conversation, Christian and Radhika give open and candid accounts of their experiences as working parents who also happen to be CEOs of organizations. They talk about the workplace supports they enjoyed after becoming parents and those they would like to have had. They also discuss the career-related skills their parenthood experience helped them develop, recount parenthood-related micro-aggressions they have experienced, share their best advice for navigating life as a working parent, and much, much more! Stay tuned to hear the motivating and encouraging conversation with these two amazing working moms!

    Show highlights:

    1. Having her child later in life has made Christian’s journey interesting, fun, and challenging. (4:33)
    2. There is more acceptance now than ever before for taking time off for kids. (7:10)
    3. It is sometimes hard for Radhika to separate her work from her personal life. (10:05)
    4. It can be challenging to find a healthy work-life balance while taking ownership of your life in the process. (14:02)
    5. Sometimes, you need to take some time to do things for yourself. (14:55)
    6. Christian’s infant son went with her when she had to travel for work. (16:24)
    7. Since becoming the president of her organization, Christian has added extra support for working parents. (17:19)
    8. Having daycare on site where she worked would have been a game-changer for Radhika after her baby was born. (23:31)
    9. Having a toddler has helped Christian understand people’s mood changes a lot better. (28:15)
    10. Coping with micro-aggressions and shaping the conversation around working parents. (32:01)
    11. Figuring out your goals as a CEO and as a parent. (36:44)
    12. Having a schedule is vital for working parents. (42:48)

    Links and resources:

    Carer.Com

    Audible

    Welcome to Your Child’s Brain by Sam Wang and Sandra Aamodt

    Cradlewise

    National Organization for Women


    Fundraising Dads EP 39 Aug 13, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode of Parents at Work, Lori Mihalich-Levin and Jason Levin interview Mark Versen and Dale Wright. Mark is the Chief Development Officer (CDO) of the Lutheran Family Services of Nebraska, Inc. In 2020, he set a record for total annual fundraising by hitting $7 Million including the largest gift in Lutheran Family Services history of the 128 years of $3 Million while surpassing 22% growth in total number of donors. Mark is a seasoned professional with experience in private and public higher education institutions and executive leadership in the health and human services non-profit sector. He’s a firm believer that philanthropy changes lives. Mark and his wife Jesse have two children and they reside in Louisville, Nebraska.

    Dale is the Associate Dean and Chief Advancement Officer for the Grainger College of Engineering, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. He’s responsible for the strategy and operations on fundraising and constituent engagement, and he’s the campaigns director for the college’s $550 Million goal in the With Illinois $2.25 Billion comprehensive campaign. As of today, the college is at 109% of its goal. Over the last 20+ years, Dale has held a variety of alumni and fundraising engagement goals in higher education. He’s an active CASE volunteer and also holds membership in organizations such as the African American Development Officers Network and The Association of Fundraising Professionals. He’s also involved in other non-profit work as well including serving on the executive committee of the board of directors for the American Legion, Boys State of Missouri. Dale loves his family and knows he wouldn't be where he is today without the support of his wife and his four daughters.

    It’s going to be a really interesting episode as these two dads talk about the most exciting things in fundraising, how they look at things from a completely different angle in order to change advancement, the power of integrating ones family into their work, and the working parenthood challenges they’ve successfully navigated all through their careers. Tune in and get inspired.

    Show Highlights

    1. Dramatic ups and downs Mark went through when he unexpectedly fell into his working parent journey (03:36)
    2. The value of having an incredible community of 120+ helpers (07:01)
    3. How Dale and his wife were able to navigate being first time parents and working on their thriving careers (08:48)
    4. Learning to turn off the fundraising mode whenever it’s time to go be a parent (15:41)
    5. Mark’s experience with being a parent who works as a fundraising professional (19:00)
    6. Parental workplace support systems that they have benefitted from all through their careers (25:13)
    7. Moving away from the previous way of doing things in fundraising to focus more on relationship building (29:59)
    8. Finding a way to shut things off in a constantly connected world (33:49)
    9. Why we should be mindful of the habits that we pick up (35:33)

    Links and Resources

    1. Good to Great By Jim Collins
    2. All Labor Has Dignity By Martin Luther King Jr.
    3. What's a Freemie? A genius invention for working parents
    4. Jason's Website
    5. Jason on Linkedin
    6. Lori's Website
    7. Lori on Linkedin


    Moms in Fundraising EP 38 Aug 03, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode of Parents at Work, Lori Mihalich-Levin and Jason Levin interview two amazing working moms who are leaders in the fundraising profession, Pradnya Haldipur and Kara Barnes.

    Pradnya Haldipur is the Vice President of Development at Code.org, where she leads fundraising and philanthropic strategy. She has more than 24 years of development and management experience in a myriad of national and international settings. She went to Code.org with experience from prestigious academic medical institutions such as Children’s National Medical Center in Washington DC, Mount Sinai Health System in New York City, and Boston Children’s Hospital, as well as think tanks, global development organizations, and the arts. Over the course of her career, she has raised more than $145M to support research, capital projects, endowment, operations, and programmatic projects. Pradnya was born in Mumbai, India but grew up in New Jersey. She resides in Silver Spring, MD, with her husband Joe Clemons, their children, Mirza Cate (age 8) and Xavier Anant (age 6) who are avid Code.org users.

    Kara Barnes is the Senior Director of Planned Giving at American University in Washington D.C. where she helps donors structure gift arrangements that create a meaningful legacy at the university and positive change in the world. She has over 20 years of experience in non-profit fundraising, with a focus on major gifts and planned giving. She has served in development positions in the arts and public media as well as higher education. Kara is a proud mid-westerner and lives in Washington D.C. with her husband Dave and son Lewis.

    Pradnya and Kara share the tensions and benefits of being working moms involved in mission-based roles that they are very passionate about, and how they manage to stay committed to their work and families while maintaining good physical and mental health. You won’t want to miss this truly engaging conversation about boundaries, relationship-building, and passion.. The lessons to learn are unmatched. So stay tuned!

    Show Highlights

    1. Being a mom while moving the mission forward at work (03:15)
    2. Kara’s working mom story: Integrating her love and passion for fundraising into her family life (05:11)
    3. How to go about boundary setting between work and family (09:11)
    4. The lack of more extensive maternity leave policies and the harm it causes (12:15)
    5. Anticipated changes in non-profits that will be geared towards better support systems for their employees (17:02)
    6. Changes happening in the fundraising industry that will affect working parents (21:32)
    7. How having children has made these leaders more successful in their careers (25:20)
    8. Forming great work relationships from the authenticity of inviting who you are and your family life into your work related interactions (28:14)
    9. Kara’s way of staying grounded in her work and family life (32:12)
    10. Adopting a mindset of loving both work and home life while using technology to achieve balance (35:37)

    Links and Resources

    1. Positive Encouragement Parenting
    2. What's a Freemie? A genius invention for working parents
    3. Jason's Website
    4. Jason on Linkedin
    5. Lori's Website
    6. Lori on Linkedin


    Moms in Government Relations + Public Affairs, Part II EP 37 Jun 03, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode of Parents at Work, Lori Mihalich-Levin and Jason Levin interview Jewelyn Cosgrove, a government affairs professional in Washington D.C. Jewelyn currently serves Melwood, a 501(c)(3) organization serving people with disabilities, as the Vice President of government relations, bringing with her 15 years of experience in public policy, lobbying, and advocacy. Outside of work, Jewelyn is passionate about elevating the needs of mothers and families and serves as the treasurer of Raising Our Future Political Action Committee, a PAC that’s aimed at electing congressional candidates that prioritize the needs of families.

    Jewelyn’s work has been focused on promoting and empowering parents to negotiate and advocate for their needs. She lives in Asheville, Virginia with her husband Greg, two children, and their two amazing cats. She is an alumna of the Mindful Return program and continues to serve the program as a coach to new mums. Jewelyn shares how Lori’s program, Mindful Return, helped her with her career and motherhood and highlights the fact that being a working mom, especially with more than one kid, means more work and a bigger family that you'll want to keep happy and strong.

    Organizational skills become more important than ever when you mix in growing your career, and Jewelyn has learned to manage “balancing” her time on a weekly basis, instead of getting obsessed about day-to-day work-life balance. You’ll want to join this lively conversation to learn more about life as a parent who works on Capitol Hill, the challenges of working in government affairs and parenting at the same time, navigating challenging conversations with your kids, and most importantly, how to figure out your own effective way of successfully parenting your kids while growing your career.

    Show Highlights

    1. Parenting her 5 and 2-year-old children (03:08)
    2. Finding Mindful Return and how she was able to recreate and reimagine herself and her career (03:43)
    3. Thriving at balancing things over a week instead of being too focused on work-life balance on a daily basis (05:13)
    4. What it’s like being a parent in a government relations role (07:46)
    5. Explaining her workdays to her kids in an age-appropriate manner (10:34)
    6. How she applies her skill in managing disagreements on the hill into managing disagreements with her kids (12:26)
    7. The most fulfilling thing about her work with Raising Our Future (15:54)
    8. Having a wonderful boss who supported her in her needs both as a parent and career woman (18:12)
    9. Support that she expects parents to get from their workplaces in this day and age (21:02)
    10. Working in the environment of uncertainty and new ways of doing things brought about by the Covid-19 pandemic (25:09)
    11. Remembering who “The Enemy” is when the going gets tough (29:32)
    12. How Freemies changed her working parenting life (32:32)

    Links and Resources

    1. Hunt, Gather, Parent: What Ancient Cultures Can Teach Us About the Lost Art of Raising Happy, Helpful Little Humans by Michaeleen Doucleff
    2. What's a Freemie? A genius invention for working parents
    3. Jason's Website
    4. Jason on Linkedin
    5. Lori's Website
    6. Lori on Linkedin


    Dads in Government Relations + Public Affairs EP 36 May 13, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode of Parents at Work, Lori Mihalich-Levin and Jason Levin interview two working dads who work in government relations: Clif Porter and Jeff McNichols.

    Clif is the Senior Vice President of government relations at the American Healthcare Association (AHCA) and the National Center for Assisted Living (NCAL), which represents more than 14,000 for-and not-for-profit nursing homes, assisted living residences, and facilities for the care of people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

    He has been married for 31 years and has three children (Chanel, 28, Christian, 25, and Clifton, 22). He has served in various leadership positions within his local church and has been actively involved in several professional and community organizations.

    Jeff is the Director of the Alliance for Congress at the Partnership for Public Service, a new program committed to strengthening the institution of congress to better serve the American public. His career in government affairs began in 2004 when he left the Navy to work as a congressional staffer. Subsequent opportunities took him to the Department of Defence and the Boston Consulting Group. Jeff has been married for eight years and has two children (ages 5 and 3)

    The four of us dug into the life cycle of a government relations career, what it’s like to work as a congressional staffer, the adjustments to make when one has to constantly travel for work to ensure that they still stay engaged as a parent, creating a work environment where parents feel that their family life is considered, thriving at raising kids while building a successful career, and so much more. Cliff and Jeff’s candor on their experience as working parents in the government relations space was not just incredibly insightful but inspirational. Stay tuned for more.

    Show Highlights

    1. Clif’s “Quarterback and running back” working parent story (02:56)
    2. Being an older dad: John’s joyous experience as a working parent (05:27)
    3. How working in government service has been beneficial in achieving work-life balance (07:42)
    4. Why working as a congressional staffer is a “Young person’s game” (09:00)
    5. The parental friction and challenges that Jeff had to overcome when his government affairs career started picking up (11:45)
    6. Adjustments to make when you have to travel for work and need to stay engaged in your parental role (13:17)
    7. Having an honest conversation with your boss towards helping you achieve work-life balance that will support your parenting efforts (16:35)
    8. Leading employees who are parents and being sensitive to their needs (18:07)
    9. Workplace supports that Jeff found helpful as he became a working parent (20:07)
    10. Transitioning into the non-profit sector from government relations, at a time when the federal government is so far behind in providing support structures for working parents (22:00)
    11. Current changes in government relations that are affecting working parents (26:52)
    12. The broad impact of the merger of working life and real life (29:25)
    13. Best piece of advice from Jeff for navigating life as a working parent (31:20)
    14. Valuing coordination between parents and how powerful it really is (34:17)
    15. Flying the Kite: Achieving big things by celebrating small victories (36:14)

    Links and Resources

    1. Win the Day By Dr. Mark Batterson
    2. Jason's Website
    3. Jason on Linkedin
    4. Lori's Website
    5. Lori on Linkedin


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