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    Pantsuit Politics

    Pantsuit Politics is the news and politics podcast for people exhausted by outrage. Hosts Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers tackle the week’s biggest political stories from genuinely different perspectives, and prove that civility, nuance, and good-faith disagreement are still possible. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday. Distributed by Lemonada Media.

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    #TakeAKnee: Kaepernick, Curry, and Trump Sep 26, 2017
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    America’s favorite sport has become the latest arena for partisan politics. We discuss the President’s statements on the NFL and the relationship between race, politics, and patriotism. We also talk about North Korean policy continuing to play out via Twitter and the incredible suffering Puerto Rico. We end the show with what's on our minds outside of politics--including Sarah's home purchase and an article on accidental killings that touched Beth. Thanks so much to our sponsors for today's episode: ThirdLove and ModCloth. North Korea has started referring to President Trump as "Mr. Evil President." Its foreign minister says that sending missiles to the US mainland is "inevitable," and the President tweeted that North Korea might not exist much longer if it continues this kind of rhetoric. Side note: we're grateful for professionals continuing to support this administration's foreign policy apparatus and concerned that they might exit around the one-year mark. We wish we had the right words to express the angst we feel for our fellow Americans in Puerto Rico. Days after Hurricane Irma, Hurricane Maria destroyed 90% of Puerto Rican's homes, took down power lines and internet, and created floodwaters ten feet high. We also talk about continued recovery efforts in Texas and Florida. We're particularly inspired by The Lady General Foundation's efforts. We send our thoughts to Nashville in the wake of a church shooting on Sunday. We discuss President Trump's remarks in support of Luther Strange in Alabama over the weekend and how his comments on whipping votes might impact future negotiations. To compliment the other side, Sarah highlights the work of Republican Puerto Rican Congresswoman Jenniffer Gonzalez-Colon. Beth thanks Democratic Ohio Representative Nickie Antonio for sponsoring House Bill 160, making Ohio's non-discrimination laws more inclusive. We discuss the President's comments about sports, race, and patriotism in depth. In our (not atypically!) wide-ranging discussion, we discuss what we know about

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    Trump's UN Speech, North Korea, Graham-Cassidy, and Listener Feedback Sep 22, 2017
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    President Trump addressed the UN this week. We discuss his remarks, the continued debate on Graham-Cassidy as a last ditch effort to repeal the Affordable Care Act, and listener feedback.

    First, we celebrate reaching our first Patreon goal that will allow us to produce The Nuanced Life series. We're so excited and extraordinarily grateful. If you'd like to support our work and access our secret garden of bonus content, visit our Patreon page. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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    Before discussing foreign policy, we take a moment to acknowledge the devastating earthquakes in Mexico City. Unfortunately, Mexico City is uniquely positioned for more disasters.

    We talk about the speech President Trump made to the UN, in which he promised to totally destroy North Korea if necessary and talked tough about Venezuela and US sovereignty. We discuss the contradictory mix of intervention and isolation the President promised as well as the tendency on the part of Americans to forget what we "get" in exchange for our global involvement.

    Next, we discuss the Graham-Cassidy bill and the inexplicable inability of legislators to make a policy case for it.

    Finally, we discuss listener feedback on our Title IX conversation and Erin's question on how we do it all (and whether that's a question that we should ask each other).


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    Freeman High School Shooting, St. Louis Riots, the Graham-Cassidy Healthcare Plan, and Tax Reform Sep 19, 2017
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    Republicans have promised tax reform by the end of the year. We talk about tax policy, the Trump plan, and the goals of our tax code. We also discuss the tragic shooting at Freeman High School, the reactions to Jason Stockley's acquittal, and the healthcare plan proposed by Senators Graham and Cassidy. We end the show with thoughts on parenting and the Emmys.

    We're still interested in hearing about your nuanced relationships! Send a voice memo to sarah@pantsuitpoliticsshow.com about your partnership with the other side. And we're less than $100 away from producing a spinoff series on nuanced living. Please head over to Patreon to support Pantsuit Politics and access all of our patrons-only content.

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    Freeman High School. Sadly, Caleb Sharpe, a 15-year-old sophomore entered his school in Rockford, Washington, with an assault rifle and a pistol. He killed one classmate and injured three others before Joe Bowen, a janitor and military veteran, heroically intervened. Sharpe, who had given indicators that he was a danger to himself, said he intended to teach a lesson on bullying.

    St. Louis. In 2011, Jason Stockley, a police officer at the time, killed Anthony Smith during a drug stop. Following a bench trial, a judge acquitted Stockley of first-degree murder. We discuss the facts and the fallout from this verdict in a city struggling with racial tension and economic angst.

    Graham-Cassidy. Republicans are scrambling to pass healthcare reform in advance of the September 30 fiscal year end in order to set the table for tax reform. Senators Lindsay Graham and Bill Cassidy have proposed a new version of "repeal and replace" that would turn over funding and control to states. This Washington Post article succinctly explains the differences between various healthcare reform efforts and the Affordable Care Act. We discuss the issues with this plan and urge listeners who oppose the plan to take it seriously.

    Compliment the Other Side. Beth compliments Senator Elizabeth Warren for working on legislation that would allow individuals to implement a credit freeze for free. Sarah compliments Congressman Will Hurd for comments on his recent Pod Save the World appearance.

    Tax Reform. We take a deeper dive into tax reform today given the administration's stated goal of passing comprehensive tax reform by the end of the year. As

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    The Briefcase: Transylvania University's DACA controversy, Betsy Devos, and Hillary Clinton Sep 15, 2017
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    Our alma mater is in the news for a truly heartbreaking reason. We continue our conversations about campus harassment and DACA in today’s episode

    Reminder to send us your nuanced relationship stories. You can record a voice memo and email it directly to us! Also, please help push us over the finish line on our Patreon page - where Sarah has launched her own House Hunters: Paducah Edition if you want to follow along! Here's the actual House Hunters set in Paducah she mentioned in the show.

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    We discuss the recent DACA "deal" between Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Donald Trump - as well as the recent internal polling with Democrats. DACA become suddenly very relevant considering a recent controversy at our alma mater Transylvania University.

    We also heard from lots of y'all who have trouble giving Betsy DeVos the benefit of the doubt and the difference between skepticism and cynicism. We also talked about "levels of guiltiness" in sexual assault.

    We also discuss Hillary Clinton (again) and the electoral college.


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    Our Interview on Sounds Good with Branden Harvey Sep 14, 2017
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    In this conversation, Branden, Beth and Sarah, talk about bringing a distinctly women-centered perspective to the conversations happening around politics, intending only to learn from each other rather than walking into the discussions trying to win.

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    Betsy DeVos, Title IX, and a Whirlwind Week in Washington Sep 11, 2017
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    This week, Betsy DeVos announced her intention to open a process that will lead to changed regulations for publicly-funded campuses responding to sexual assault allegations under Title IX. We discuss this announcement, a variety of social media hot topics, and Sarah's trip to Washington D.C.

    Please consider supporting Pantsuit Politics through a monthly contribution that will allow you to access the secret garden of content on Patreon. We'd also love to hear from you if you're in a relationship with someone who has completely different political views than you. Email your voice memos to sarah@pantsuitpoliticsshow.com and beth@pantsuitpoliticsshow.com.

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    We briefly review the history of Title IX (also named the Patsy Takemoto Mink Equal Opportunity in Education Act) before discussing Betsy DeVos's announcement that she'll be reviewing and replacing the Obama administration's guidance on campus sexual assault. We talk about the difficulty of grappling with both the criminal and non-criminal aspects of harassment, the i

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    The Briefcase: Public Pensions and School Funding Sep 07, 2017
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    Sarah is in Washington D.C. as part of her #CommissionerHolland duties, so this episode features two interviews. First, Beth talks with Angie Ferguson, a Kentucky state judicial secretary (and fellow Phi Mu and Transylvania University alum) about the public pension crisis. Then, Beth talks with Zahava Stadler, Manager of Policy and Research at EdBuild, about school funding, inequality, and new ways to think about education.

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    Angie Ferguson has been with the Kentucky state court system for 13 years. During that time, she has paid into Kentucky's non-hazardous workers' pension system. Angie recognizes that something has to give in our benefits system. She also knows that we aren't paying public workers enough to reasonably expect to shift all of the risk and burden to individuals. She gives us some live Friday feedback in this episode.

    Zahava Stadler is the Manager of Policy and Research at EdBuild, a national non-profit focused on bringing common sense solutions to school funding. Zahava and Beth discuss how we accept real property tax funding at the local level for schools as part of the natural order, and, in doing so, contribute to an unequal school system that fails many of our children.


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    DACA, North Korea, and Public Pension Crises Sep 05, 2017
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    Unfunded pension obligations have risen to $1.9 trillion from $292 billion since 2007. Today we talk about public pension systems, partisanship, and problem-solving. In the Pearls, we discuss reports that President Trump will end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program ("DACA") and North Korea's hydrogen bomb test. In the Heels, we talk about Sarah's upcoming trip to Washington, D.C. and Beth's life decisions.

    We had the honor of talking with Branden Harvey for his inspiring podcast, Sounds Good, while we were in Nashville. Check out our conversation on nuance and empathy. We also hope that you'll consider supporting Pantsuit Politics. We're so close to our goal and can't wait to celebrate with a mini-series on living in a more nuanced way.

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    This weekend, reports surfaced that President Trump will end DACA, which President Obama enacted via executive order in June 2012. DACA provides a renewable period of deferred deportation and eligibility for work visas to individuals who meet certain eligibility requirements, including that they entered the United States prior to their sixteenth birthdays and pose no threat to national security or public safety. DACA funds itself through application fees, and a 2016 study found that it has had a positive employment impact for the eligible population. Nevertheless, the President is reported to be living up to his campaign promise to end DACA in six months. We discuss this decision, particularly given the impact it will have on people already suffering from Hurricane Harvey.

    North Korea tested a powerful hydrogen bomb on Sunday--its eighteenth missile test since President Trump took office. Through

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    The Briefcase: Hurricane Harvey, Accidental Courtesy, Fragility, and Resilience Sep 01, 2017
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    In today's episode of the Briefcase, we talk about the devastating impacts of Hurricane Harvey, the humans lessons we can take from this moment in time, and how and when to discuss the political impact of natural disasters. We also discuss the new documentary, Accidental Courtesy, about a black man who befriends members of the Ku Klux Klan.

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    Before discussing Hurricane Harvey, we wanted to acknowledge the flooding in India, Bangladesh, and Nepal that has killed more than 1,000 people. We send our thoughts to this part of the world.

    As we come to understand the causes and infrastructure issues surrounding Hurricane Harvey, we are most struck by the images of kindness and compassion for others coming out of the area. We discuss our desire to harness Americans' propensity for love and generosity in the wake of tragedy to help heal some of our political division.

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    Pardoning Joe Arpaio, North Korea, Hurricane Harvey, and Sex Addiction Aug 29, 2017
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    As our country continues to feel divisive and unstable, it can be helpful to focus on our shared struggles. Today, our listener, Aubrey, shares her story and offers a nuanced perspective on sex addiction. In the Pearls we discuss President Trump's decision to pardon Joe Arpaio, North Korea's latest missile test, and the devastating effects of Hurricane Harvey.

    You can receive lots more nuance by becoming a supporter of Pantsuit Politics. We hope you'll check out our bonus episodes, blog posts, and videos.

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    The White House took the concept of a Friday night news dump to new heights over the weekend. We discuss the implications of President Trump's decision to pardon Sherriff Joe Arpaio and what we didn't know about Arpaio. In addition to inflaming racial tensions, the pardon could also impact Robert Mueller's investigation.

    After the President claiming during his Phoenix rally that North Korea has started to respect the United States, North Korea launched three short-range ballistic missiles. This news comes as the President signed a directive banning transgender military service.

    Although Sebastian Gorka's bizarre departure from the White House made some headlines, we're a little tired of pretending that people...

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