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    Pantsuit Politics

    Pantsuit Politics is the news and politics podcast for people exhausted by outrage. Hosts Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers tackle the week’s biggest political stories from genuinely different perspectives, and prove that civility, nuance, and good-faith disagreement are still possible. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday. Distributed by Lemonada Media.

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    Testing President Trump Feb 14, 2017
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    First up, Trump and Kellyanne fight with Nordstrom. Trump earlier this week tweeted that "My daughter Ivanka has been treated so unfairly by @Nordstrom. She is a great person – always pushing me to do the right thing! Terrible!" (And it was retweeted by the official @POTUS account)

    Then, Kellyanne stated on Fox & Friends: "Go buy Ivanka's stuff, is what I would tell you," Conway said. "It's a wonderful line. I own some of it. I fully -- I'm going to just, I'm going to give a free commercial here: Go buy it today, everybody. You can find it online."

    The comments could run afoul of a federal law that bars public employees from making an "endorsement of any product, service or enterprise, or for the private gain of friends, relatives, or persons with whom the employee is affiliated in a nongovernmental capacity."

    James Nuzzo, a legal scholar and founder of the Colchester Group consulting firm, took a closer look at President Trump's tweet and noticed something very important was missing: Specifics. All the tweet accuses Nordstrom of "doing" is being "very unfair," Nuzzo points out. Any lawsuit the company brings against Mr. Trump would have almost no chance of success. Moreover, the U.S. Supreme Court has made it clear that only factual misrepresentation, in other words specific lies — not opinion — would be considered libel or slander. And the tweet almost seems to have been crafted very wisely with that precedent in mind. Someone saying another person or company is "unfair" is almost the definition of an opinion as "fairness" cannot really be defined legally or otherwise. In short, don't expect President Trump to get a slap on the wrist or any other kind of slap from the courts over this.

    Congress is a different matter. A much stronger argument could be made that Congress could officially censure President Trump for his conduct connected to the tweet against Nordstrom and several others like it that specifically attacked or demeaned businesses and individuals.

    Plus, we ask Just how much trouble is Michael Flynn in? and talk about North Korea conducts ballistic missile test.

    In the Suit, we talk about Washington v. Trump and do our best to summarize the decision.

    1. The procedural history of 9th Circuit decision:
    2. A. The state of Washington went to federal district court asking for a temporary restraining order (TRO). When a hearing happens, Washington wants a declaration that the order is illegal and unconstitutional and permanently enjoined from enforcement. (Minnesota jumped in as a plaintiff, too)The District Judge granted that TRO. The President asked the 9th circuit to stay the TRO. So, Washington said, “STOP enforcing this EO until a full hearing can happen.” The district court did. Then the President said to the circuit court “stop the district court’s order stopping my order until a full hearing can happen. And the 9th circuit said, “nope, we’re going with that restraining order.”
    3. Standing — cases and controversies — you can only bring a lawsuit if you have a particular and specific, non-theoretical injury that a court could actually redress. The states of Washington and Minnesota said that they were harmed because the EO kept people from coming to their public universities and the states are...

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    Primer: Presidential Power Feb 13, 2017
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    Listeners Aaron and Sierra join Beth for a quick overview of executive power.

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    Elizabeth Warren, Yemen, and Jay Carson from The Politics Guys Feb 10, 2017
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    "Nevertheless, she persisted." Did Senator McConnell make a rare strategic mistake or was this all political theater? Was the raid on Yemen worth the cost?

    We talk about that and more on today's Briefcase, as well as sharing Sarah's talk with Jay Carson - the conservative counterpart on The Politics Guys podcast.


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    Season 3, Episode 5: Updates from the 3 branches Feb 07, 2017
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    Is Steven Bannon really in charge? Does Congress want to pollute our streams? Does Donald Trump have it out for the judiciary branch? We check in with all three branches and talk to Jason Murray, a former law clerk for Supreme Court nominee Judge Neil Gorsuch.

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    Season 3, Episode 4: Dr. Tamara Tweel on Involuntary Miscarriages and Voluntary Abortions Feb 03, 2017
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    Sarah talks with Dr. Tamara Tweel, Director of Strategic Development for the Hillel International Office of Innovation, about how her involuntary miscarriage brought her before the Ohio state legislator discussing voluntary abortion.

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    Season 3, Episode 3: "Muslim Ban" Roundtable Jan 31, 2017
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    Our executive producer Nicholas Holland and friend of the pod Annie Kratzsch help us process the chaos that ensued after President Trump's Executive Order on immigration and refugees.

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    Season 3, Episode 2: Challenging Topics, Challenging News Jan 27, 2017
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    We call our Friday episodes "The Briefcase." In each episode of the Briefcase, we cover listener feedback and news of the week. This week, we continue to talk about your thoughtful perspectives on the Women's March and reproductive rights. We also discuss the frenzy of news made by the White House this week as President Trump signs executive orders.

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    Season 3, Episode 1: Forward Jan 24, 2017
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    We decided that our word for 2017 is “forward”. Today, we’re exploring what exactly that means for all of us in the Trump era. We'll also talk about Sean Spicer and alternative facts, the Women's March, and what we’re personally looking forward to this year.

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    Bonus Content: Bryn and Loree from the #WomensMarch Jan 22, 2017
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    We got a report from the ground as Bryn and Loree marched on Washington!

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    Season 2 Finale: The Inauguration Jan 21, 2017
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    In our final episode of Season 2, we discuss your feedback on our mental health episode, the Trump inauguration, and the Women's March.

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