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Made a few mistakes in life? Facing challenges, you don’t know how to navigate? Wondering what to do next? What direction to take? We are Mary and Jerry Lenaburg and in our 35 years of marriage, we have been through a lot of challenges. Through our experiences and poor decisions, we have gained a lot of wisdom on what not to do. Join us each week for unscripted conversations on marriage, faith, brokenness, family life, parenting, and anything else you want us to talk about. We promise you will laugh and maybe even shed a tear or three. Our goal for this podcast is to provide encouragement and hope through our stories and chats with those who have impacted our lives. Send in your questions, comments, and topic suggestions to us at 571-354-0351. Mary and Jerry Lenaburg have been married for 35 wild, unpredictable, and insanely wonderful years and are parents of two children. One in heaven and one earth side who recently upgraded them to grandparents 2.0. They have been through nearly every challenge a married couple can face – military life, addictions, burying a child, burying their parents, financial and job challenges, and housebreaking a puppy, twice. Along the way, they have learned many important lessons about faith, family, and how to build a lasting marriage. They have appeared together on EWTN and regularly speak to engaged and married couples all over the United States. Connect with us and our podcast on Instagram at @themaryandjerrypodcast

This is a story of the way that ministry is changing in a new and harsher world painfully different than the one known by our parents and grandparents. It’s a story for pastors who face the daunting task of leading their church through necessary but excruciating seasons of transition so that they can move from surviving to thriving. This story is for people who are part of those churches and experiencing the profound loss, painful heartbreak, and intense frustration that always comes with change. This is the story of the revitalization of First Baptist Church—the rise, ruin, and restoration of one of America’s great churches.