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    Outward: Slate’s LGBTQ podcast

    Outward, Slate’s queer podcast, is a whip-smart monthly salon in which hosts and guests deepen the audience’s understanding of queer culture and politics, delight them with unexpected perspectives, and invite listeners into a colorful conversation about the issues animating LGBTQ communities.


    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Queer Utopian Fiction and Dystopian Reality TV May 24, 2023
    Show notes

    This month, Outward explores utopian fiction and dystopian reality TV. First, Bryan and Christina are joined by author Theodore McCombs to discuss Uranians, his new collection of speculative stories, which uses queer difference and divestment from the normal as an engine to drive five fascinating tales. Then they’re joined by producer June Thomas to discuss The Ultimatum: Queer Love, Netflix’s latest take on the dating show, which follows a cast of queer women and nonbinary folks as they try to decide who they will marry. Finally, the hosts add some new items to the gay agenda.


    Items discussed in the show:

    The CBC report on Patricia Ginn of the WindSisters

    Uranians: Stories, by Theodore McCombs

    More on Karl Heinrich Ulrich’s take on the Uranian

    The Ultimatum: Queer Love on Netflix

    June on the queerness of portrait galleries


    Gay Agenda

    June: The Scottish National Portrait Gallery in Edinburgh

    Bryan: That! Feels Good!, by Jessie Ware

    Christina: “Radical Desire: Making On Our Backs Magazine,” from Cornell University Library


    This podcast was produced by June Thomas.

    Please send feedback, topic ideas, and advice questions to outwardpodcast@slate.com.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Are Advice Columns Intrinsically Queer? Apr 19, 2023
    Show notes

    Spring is in the air, and the Outward hosts are gay like tulips and queer like allergies! First, they discuss a new animated version of the beloved Frog and Toad series of children’s books, which premieres on Apple TV+ on April 28. Then they welcome Daniel M. Lavery to the pod. Danny was Slate’s own Dear Prudence for many years, and now a Dear Prudence book is here to grace our bookshelves. Danny shares his philosophy of advice-giving, talks about what it was like to transition in the public eye, and offers his take on a reader question current Prudie Jenée Desmond-Harris answered a few weeks ago.


    Items discussed in the show:

    Jules and the Framing Agnes team at the GLAAD Awards

    Outward’s December 2022 discussion of Framing Agnes with actress Jen Richards

    LMN’s schedule

    Somerville, Massachusetts, extends protections to polyamorous families

    “Frog and Toad: An Amphibious Celebration of Same-Sex Love,” by Colin Stokes in the New Yorker

    “How Frog and Toad Author Arnold Lobel Explored Gay Intimacy in His Work,” by J. Bryan Lowder in Slate

    “This Is a Terrible Way to Commemorate a Major Civil Rights Victory,” by June Thomas in Slate

    Dear Prudence: Liberating Lessons From Slate.com’s Beloved Advice Column, by Daniel M. Lavery

    Jenée Desmond-Harris answered the question we put to Danny at the end of this Dear Prudence column

    The Big Mood, Little Mood With Daniel M. Lavery podcast

    The Dear Prudence podcast


    Gay Agenda

    Christina: Mae Martin’s new Netflix special, SAP

    Jules: “Conservatives Are Turing to a 150-Year-Old Obscenity Law to Outlaw Abortion,” by Melissa Gira Grant in the New Republic

    Bryan: Erick Adame’s Daily Weather Report (more background from the New York Times)


    This podcast was produced by June Thomas.

    Please send feedback, topic ideas, and advice questions to outwardpodcast@slate.com.

    Make an impact this Earth Month by helping Macy’s on their mission to bring more parks to more people across the country. Go to macys.com/purpose to learn more.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Why Is Everything “Lesbian” Always Dying? Mar 15, 2023
    Show notes

    This month, hosts Christina Cauterucci, Jules Gill-Peterson, and Bryan Lowder explore two parts of the queer world heavily associated with the 1970s: PFLAG and “The Lesbian.” First, they mark the 50th anniversary of PFLAG with a discussion of how the relationship between parents, parenthood, and queer people has changed over the last five decades, how it hasn’t, and what all that means in this dangerous era of “parental rights.” Then, they’re joined by Mairead Sullivan, a scholar and author of the newish book Lesbian Death, a fascinating analysis of the cultural association between the figure of The Lesbian and, well, death. Why is The Lesbian and her bed, her spaces, her very identity, always dying? Who’s killing her? Sullivan helps the hosts sort it out.


    Items discussed in the show:

    Lesbian Deathby Mairead Sullivan

    Gallup’s latest count of LGBT people in the U.S.

    Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee’s 1977 photo in drag.


    Gay Agenda

    Christina: The novel Confidence by Rafael Frumkin

    JGP: Pedro Pascal’s Instagram

    BL: Nico Lang’s @QueerNewsDaily; Julia Serano on “transgenderism”; and Christina on Gov. Ron DeSantis’ love of high heels.


    This podcast was produced by Morgan Givens.


    Please send feedback, topic ideas, and advice questions to outwardpodcast@slate.com.


    Make an impact this Women’s History Month by helping Macy’s on their mission to fund girls in STEM. Go to macys.com/purpose to learn more.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Are Throuples All That Different From Couples? Feb 15, 2023
    Show notes

    Love is in the air this month, so hosts Christina Cauterucci, Jules Gill-Peterson, and Bryan Lowder turn their attention to some very queer questions of love. First, they discuss a new Spanish film, Petit Mal, which explores the intimate drama and everyday feelings of three women in a throuple. Then they consider what is arguably the hardest kind of love: loving yourself in the wake of great loss or pain. Recent years have seen a huge growth in the applications of psychedelic drugs as a treatment strategy for PTSD, depression, anxiety, and more. Although psychedelics are becoming more popular with everyone, a lot of queer and trans people have pre-existing relationships with some of these substances, both in recreational and therapeutic contexts. The hosts are joined by Dr. Alex Belser, the leading researcher into queer people’s relationship with psychedelics, to discuss what these drugs might offer—and get back from—queers.

    Items discussed in the show:

    “Gay Bars and Hookup Apps”: The February 2021 episode of Outward that focused on Lex and other dating apps for women

    The official trailer for Petit Mal

    Queering Psychedelics: From Oppression to Liberation in Psychedelic Medicine, edited by Alex Belser, Clancy Cavnar, and Beatriz C. Labate

    “Does the Queer Scene Have a Ketamine Problem?” by Delilah Friedler in Rolling Stone

    “10 Calls to Action: Toward an LGBTQ-Affirmative Psychedelic Therapy,” by Alex Belser

    Gay Agenda

    Christina: Aftersun, written and directed by Charlotte Wells

    Bryan: The legacy of Charles Silverstein, who died on Jan. 30, 2023

    Jules: Wayward Lives, Beautiful Experiments: Intimate Histories of Riotous Black Girls, Troublesome Women, and Queer Radicals, by Saidiya V. Hartman

    This podcast was produced by June Thomas.

    Please send feedback, topic ideas, and advice questions to outwardpodcast@slate.com.

    Make an impact this Black History Month by helping Macy’s on their mission to fund UNCF scholarships for HBCU students. Go to macys.com/purpose to learn more.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    The War on Drag Jan 18, 2023
    Show notes

    This month, hosts Christina Cauterucci, Jules Gill-Peterson, and Bryan Lowder take an in-depth look at the latest fixation of the far right: drag, an art form as old as gender itself, which has brought generations of queer people together. In the first segment, the hosts consider why conservatives are now trying to regulate drag shows out of existence and armed hate groups are showing up at drag events to threaten and intimidate performers and audiences. Then they are joined by Lil Miss Hot Mess, who in addition to performing with Drag Story Hour, has taken an academic interest in what children take away from drag events.

    Items discussed in the show:

    • The beautiful lullaby version of “Titanium” in M3GAN.
    • M.J. Rodriguez’s gorgeous 2023 Golden Globes dress
    • Drag Story Hour
    • Diane di Prima’s poem “Rant”
    • Lil Miss Hot Mess’ clap-back video to Marco Rubio’s attack ad


    Gay Agenda

    • Jules: Any DJ set by Honey Dijon. (Here’s one to start with.)
    • Bryan: Cleanse your social media feeds, and introduce some cozy vibes with Isaac Mizrahi’s Instagram feed.
    • Christina: “The ‘Golden Gays’ Return to the Stage in the Philippines,” by Hannah Reyes Morales in the New York Times


    This podcast was produced by June Thomas.

    Please send feedback, topic ideas, and advice questions to outwardpodcast@slate.com.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    How Can Queer People Keep Each Other Safe? Dec 21, 2022
    Show notes

    This month, hosts Christina Cauterucci, Jules Gill-Peterson, and Bryan Lowder reflect on the painful impact of anti-LGBTQ violence and dig into the new possibilities for trans storytelling and filmmaking. First, they talk through their complicated feelings about one of the responses to the shooting at Club Q in Colorado Springs last month: Should queer people be organizing in self-defense, or even arming ourselves for protection? Then they are joined by actress Jen Richards who portrays Barbara in Framing Agnes, a new documentary, directed by Chase Joynt, which is centered on six trans people who were interviewed and treated at a UCLA gender clinic in the 1950s. The film combines reenactments of those interviews with contemporary conversations with trans actors reflecting on how the lives of the people they portray resonate with their own lives. Our own Jules Gill-Peterson has a central role in the movie as a historian and narrator.

    Items discussed in the show:

    • Season 2 of The White Lotus
    • Christina’s Slate piece, “I Think I Found Kyrsten Sinema’s Side Hustle”
    • Framing Agnes


    Gay Agenda

    Christina: shopping gay, including at The Little Gay Shop and Adam’s Nest

    Jules: “Not a Transition: On Andrea Pallaoro’s Monica,” by Eva Pensis in the Los Angeles Review of Books

    Bryan has created a bespoke cocktail for Outward listeners: the Cuddle Puddle


    The Cuddle Puddle

    2 oz rye

    1 oz ginger liqueur

    ½ oz Fernet Branca or similar

    Dash of orange bitters

    Stir the ingredients for a long time over ice, then strain into a cocktail glass. Garnish with orange peel.


    This podcast was produced by June Thomas.


    Please send feedback, topic ideas, and advice questions to outwardpodcast@slate.com.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    How to Read a New York Times Story About Trans Kids Nov 23, 2022
    Show notes

    This episode was recorded before the Nov. 19 attack on Club Q. Outward stands with our queer family in Colorado Springs.

    This month, Christina Cauterucci, Jules Gill-Peterson, and Bryan Lowder discuss two major trans news stories from recent weeks. First, the New York Times’ latest article about trans kids and gender-affirming care, this time about puberty blockers and bone density, and how it plays into the ongoing, manufactured, and weaponized conservative panic about trans existence. Then they are joined by James Roesener of Concord, New Hampshire, who earlier this month became the first out trans man to be elected to a U.S. state legislature. They talk about why he ran and what he hopes to achieve. Finally, the hosts add some new items to the gay agenda.

    Items discussed in the show:

    The American Library Association Rainbow Round Table

    The Lilly Pharmaceutical Twitter impersonation

    AMC’s new version of Interview With the Vampire

    World Pride 2025 in D.C.

    “They Paused Puberty, but Is There a Cost?” by Megan Twohey and Christina Jewett in the New York Times

    Michael Hobbes’ Twitter thread responding to the NYT story

    “The NYT’s Big Piece on Puberty Blockers Mucked Up the Most Important Point About Them,” by Evan Urquhart, in Slate


    Gay Agenda

    Brian: Queer for Fear on Shudder

    Christina: The Secret to Superhuman Strength, by Alison Bechdel

    Jules: Gossip Girl Fanfic Novella, by Charlie Markbreiter


    This podcast was produced by June Thomas.


    Please send feedback, topic ideas, and advice questions to outwardpodcast@slate.com.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Debating Queer History in Bros and at the Library of Congress Oct 19, 2022
    Show notes

    Bryan Lowder is still out on book leave, but hosts Christina Cauterucci and Jules Gill-Peterson summon him back to discuss Bros, the gay rom-com of the moment. The film lingers on questions of queer history, shows what happens when a nerdy podcast guy dates a beefy gay bro, and is a fascinating meditation on what it means to be a cis gay man in a time of both progress and prosecution. (This segment lasts around 31 minutes if you want to skip ahead to avoid Bros spoilers.) Then they are joined by Meg Metcalf, an LGBTQ collections specialist at the Library of Congress, to discuss how the world’s biggest library is surfacing the plentiful LGBTQ resources that can be found in its building and in cyberspace. Finally, they add some new items to the gay agenda.


    Items discussed in the show:

    The Problem With Jon Stewart, “The Problem With Gender”

    “Why Jon Stewart’s Humiliation of an Anti-Trans Official Is So Important,” by Evan Urquhart in Slate

    A new report from the Human Rights Campaign and Bowling Green State University

    “Billy Eichner’s Curious Claims About Bros,” by J. Bryan Lowder in Slate

    “Was Eleanor Roosevelt a Lesbian?” by Heather Schwedel, in Slate

    The Library of Congress’ Collections Policy Statement for LGBTQIA+ studies

    If you have a question for Meg, or other Library of Congress librarians, go to ask.loc.gov

    Chronicling America, the Library of Congress’ database of historic newspapers

    Gay Agenda

    Christina: The episode of NPR’s Code Switch in which Kumari Devarajan profiled comedian and playwright D’Lo, who has a role in Bros

    Jules: Faltas: Letters to Everyone in My Hometown Who Isn’t My Rapist, by Cecilia Gentili

    This podcast was produced by June Thomas.

    Please send feedback, topic ideas, and advice questions to outwardpodcast@slate.com.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Is A League of Their Own Gratuitously Gay? Sep 21, 2022
    Show notes

    This month, Bryan Lowder is away, so hosts Christina Cauterucci and Jules Gill-Peterson are joined by the podcast’s founding co-host Brandon Tensley to talk about some new representations of LGBTQ people involved in the wide world of sports. First, they debate whether the new Amazon Prime take on A League of Their Own, starring and co-created by Abbi Jacobson, might possibly be too queer. Then they discuss the making of Stay on Board: The Leo Baker Story, the new Netflix documentary about a transgender pro skateboarder, with Nicola Marsh, who directed the movie, along with Giovanni Reda, and executive producer Alex Schmider. Finally, they add some new items to the gay agenda.


    Items discussed in the show:

    Race Deconstructed, Brandon’s newsletter at CNN

    A League of Their Own, on Amazon Prime

    Stay on Board: The Leo Baker Story, on Netflix

    Slate’s coverage of the Yummers debacle

    The 2022 NLGJA Convention in Chicago

    The Transgender Issue, by Shon Faye

    Gay Agenda

    Brandon: Listen to Rina Sawayama’s new album Hold the Girl

    Jules: Follow actor, writer, model Hari Nef on Instagram

    Christina: Listen to Lauren Ober’s new podcast The Loudest Girl in the World


    This podcast was produced by June Thomas.

    Please send feedback, topic ideas, and advice questions to outwardpodcast@slate.com.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    Viruses and Our Profoundly Unequal World Aug 17, 2022
    Show notes

    This month, host Christina Cauterucci, Jules Gill-Peterson, and Bryan Lowder start the show with a Thots & Queries segment in which a listener asks about orgy etiquette. In a completely different party setting, they try to figure out what on earth is going on in the U.S. Congress, where legislators are debating marriage equality in the form of the Respect for Marriage Act. Then Northwestern University professor and journalist Steven Thrasher joins them to discuss his new book The Viral Underclass: The Human Toll When Inequality and Disease Collide. Finally, they add some new items to the gay agenda.


    Items discussed in the show:

    Taylor Blake and her emu friend Emmanuel

    Beyoncé’s Renaissance

    A shocking tweet from the official Log Cabin Republicans account

    The June 29 episode of Outward in which Mark Joseph Stern considered how the Dobbs decision might affect LGBTQ rights

    “Why Is There More Republican Support for Gay Marriage Than for Abortion Rights?” by Moira Donegan, in the Nation

    The Viral Underclass,, by Steven Thrasher

    Let the Record Show, by Sarah Schulman

    “An Uprising Comes From the Viral Underclass,” by Steven Thrasher in Slate, June 12, 2020

    Gay Agenda

    Jules: X, by Davey Davis

    Bryan: The Sandman, on Netflix

    Christina: “We Failed,” by Eric Neugeboren, in the Texas Tribune

    This podcast was produced by June Thomas.

    Please send feedback, topic ideas, and advice questions to outwardpodcast@slate.com.

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


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