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Walking through Deconstruction with Ian Harber Jan 28, 2025

Kelsi chats with Christian author Ian Harber about his new book, Walking through Deconstruction: How to be a Companion in a Crisis of Faith, which details his own experience with with Christian deconstruction and return to faith.

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How Would Luther Vote? with Bruce Hillman and Adam Francisco Oct 29, 2024

This week, Kelsi finishes her two-part conversation with Bruce Hillman and Adam Francisco with a look at Martin Luther's Two Kingdoms Doctrine, and especially the lefthanded or earthly realm. What did Luther think about the role of government in his day and age? Like many things with Luther, it's complicated. The show wraps up with some comparison between Augustine and Luther.

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How Would Augustine Vote? with Adam Francisco and Bruce Hillman Oct 22, 2024

In today's episode, Kelsi is joined by 1517's Adam Francisco and Bruce Hillman to discuss the way in which politics and government is written about in the New Testament as well as St. Augustine's political theory. This is part 1 of a two-part conversation. The next episode will take a closer look at Martin Luther's Two Kingdom's doctrine.

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The Joy of the Trinity with Tara-Leigh Cobble Oct 01, 2024

Kelsi chats with author, Tara-Leigh Cobble, about her love of Scripture as well as her book, the Joy of the Trinity. Tara-Leigh Cobble's zeal for Biblical literacy is at the heart of everything she creates. Her goal is to help people read, understand, and love Scripture. Her daily podcast, "The Bible Recap,” guides listeners through a chronological 1-Year Bible reading plan. The podcast has over 330 million downloads and reached #1 on the Apple Podcast Charts in All Categories. She created and leads D-Group International, which has grown into an international network of 300+ weekly Bible studies that meet in homes, churches, and online. She also writes and hosts a daily radio show called "The God Shot" and leads trips to Israel to study the Bible on site. Her book The Bible Recap (Baker / Bethany House) and Bible study He’s Where the Joy Is (Lifeway) are outlets for understanding Scripture as a whole and the Trinity in particular. She lives in Dallas, TX, where she has no pets, children, or anything that might die if she forgets to feed it.

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Junk Drawer Jesus with Matt Popovits Sep 17, 2024

Kelsi talks with Pastor Matt Popovits about his forthcoming book, Junk Drawer Jesus: Discarding Your Spiritual Clutter and Rediscovering the Supremacy of Grace. Matt details some of the most common misconceptions people tend to have about who God is (and what that means about them), including the ways we measure our spirituality, how we try and find our identity in our work, and that we falsely assume that happiness should be our ultimate aim in life.

Matt Popovits currently serves as Lead Pastor of St. Mark Houston, in Houston, Texas. Matt is a graduate of both Concordia Seminary in St. Louis, MO and of the University of Michigan-Flint department of Theatre and Dance. He and his high school sweetheart, Lisa, have two children: Ava Elise and Jack Matthew.

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Psychedelics and Jesus with Ashley Lande Sep 03, 2024

In this episode of Outside Ourselves, Kelsi chats with author and writer, Ashley Lande about her forthcoming book, The Thing that Would Make Everything Okay Forever. In the book and in this conversation, Ashley talks about how she found Jesus Christ after years of using psychedelics.

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Deborah and the Book of Judges with Sandra Richter Aug 20, 2024

Kelsi is joined by Sandra Richter to discuss the portrayal of women throughout the Old Testament before honing in on the story of Deborah in Judges 4-5, specifically. Kelsi asks Dr. Richter questions about viewing Deborah’s leadership as normative, and the role and office of prophet and prophetess throughout Scripture. Together, the two discuss the good news within the darkness of Judges and the Christocentric end to Deborah and Barak’s battle and victory against Sisera.

The Gundry Chair of Biblical Studies at Westmont College and a graduate of Harvard University, Dr. Richter has dedicated her career to making Scripture accessible andrelevant to contemporary audiences. She has applied her many years in the classroom, her technical research, and her years of archaeological experience to writing books and Bible studies and creating videos that bring the Bible to life for the current generation.

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American and Charismatic Christianity with Andy Squyres Aug 08, 2024

In this conversation with musician and writer, Andy Squyres, Kelsi asks about Andy's theological background and why he remains a Charismatic Christian. The two talk about some of the pros and cons of the Charismatic movement, the affects of deconstruction, and their hope for the future of Christianity in America. Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 04:00 Andy’s Background 11:30 The grace doorway 16:00 What can the High Church learn from Charismatics? 24:00 The impact of low anthropology on Andy’s humor 34:00 Barriers in American Christianity 41:00 Christ as Reality 45:00 A Post-Christian Era? 52:00 The freedom of vocation 56:00 Andy’s writing 1:00:00 The gut feeling of assurance 1:02:30 The people of perpetual disappointment 1:07:30 Wrapping up and Poet Priest Volume 3

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Navigating Theology and Marriage with Doug Klembara Jul 23, 2024

Kelsi and her husband, Doug Klembara, share how they navigated their theological differences in the early days of marriage. Together, they recount some of the major disagreements they had and how looking at Scripture and seeking out wise counsel eventually lead them to a place of agreement that has had an impact not only on their marriage, but their vocations and parenting. Doug is an entrepreneur and the Creative Director at 1517.

Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 06:45 Why this episode? 10:00 Doug’s theological background 18:00 Kelsi’s theological background 22:30 Differences coming to a head 28:30 Helpful influences 32:40 The distinction between law and gospel 35:00 Baptism’s Connection to Predestination 40:00 The Gifts of Scripture and Curiosity 43:00 Differences in Worship 48:00 Unreasonable Hospitality 52:20 Christocentric Theology 55:00 Why we go to a Lutheran Church 57:15 Impact of theology on our parenting

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The Authority of Scripture with Jacob Smith Jul 09, 2024

Kelsi chats with the Reverend Jacob Smith about the authority of Scripture - how we define it and what it means for us - both Christian and non-Christian. Jacob works to define Scripture as authoritative not because it's a handbook for better living, but because it reveals Christ crucified for your sins. The two chat about Jacob's background, how he came into ministry, and the role evidential and legal apologetics have played for him personally, and end on the comfort that comes from proclaiming a good news and truth that's success isn't dependent on us as it's messengers. The Reverend Jacob Smith is the Rector of Calvary - St. George. Jake was born on the Navajo Reservation and was raised in Yuma, Arizona. He graduated from the University of Arizona in 2000 with a BA in History, with an emphasis in Near Eastern Studies. He received his M. Div from Trinity Episcopal in May, 2006. Jacob was ordained to the diaconate on June 3, 2006 in the Episcopal Diocese of San Diego, and ordained a presbyter at Calvary Church on December 3, 2006.

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Bonus Episode: Hitchhiking with Prophets with Chad Bird Jul 05, 2024

In this bonus episode, Chad Bird joins Kelsi in person to discuss his newest book, Hitchhiking with Prophets: A Ride through the Salvation Story of the Old Testament, which is out next week! Hitchhiking with Prophets follows the characters of the Old Testament as they guide us to Christ. Kelsi and Chad talk about why Chad wrote this book, who the book is for, and what he hopes to leave readers with. Chad Bird is a Scholar in Residence at 1517. He has served as a pastor, professor, and guest lecturer in Old Testament and Hebrew. He holds master's degrees from Concordia Theological Seminary and Hebrew Union College. He has contributed articles to Christianity Today, The Gospel Coalition, Modern Reformation, The Federalist, Lutheran Forum, and other journals and websites. He is also the author of several books, including The Christ Key & Limping with God.

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Finding God in the Darkness with Bradley Gray Jun 25, 2024

1517 Contributor and pastor, Bradley Gray, joins Kelsi to talk about his incredible book, Finding God in the Darkness: Hopeful Reflections from the Pit of Depression, Despair, and Disappointment, and specifically, how he sees God responding to suffering throughout Scripture. Bradley asserts Martin Luther's theology of the cross as a helpful backdrop by which to view all human suffering, and specifically the suffering caused by mental illness. Kelsi asks Brad his opinions on a recent comments over mental illness from a well-known pastor and the two discuss both harmful and helpful ways the church can offer comfort to those who find themselves suffering bouts of depressions, despair, and disappointment. Bradley Gray is pastor of Stonington Baptist Church in Paxinos, PA, where he lives with his wife, Natalie, and their three children. His writing and research are especially focused on pastoral theology and the theological development of the Reformation. Finding God in the Darkness was named as a 2023 finalist in the New Author category of the ECPA Christian Book Awards.

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A Theology of Relationships with Robert Kolb Jun 11, 2024

In this episode, Kelsi interviews Dr. Robert Kolb about his newest book, Face to Face: Luther's View of Reality. In Face to Face, Dr. Kolb argues that Martin Luther's theology is underpinned by his understanding of relationships, both how Christians came "face to face" with God (Coram Deo) and "face to face" with the world (Coram Mundo). It's these relationships that give us reality itself. Dr. Kolb is professor emeritus of Systematic Theology at Concordia Seminary, St. Louis, Missouri, and a world-renowned authority on Martin Luther and the history of the Reformation.

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Boys, Men, and the Freedom of the Gospel with Anthony Bradley May 28, 2024

Dr. Anthony Bradley serves as a distinguished research fellow at The Acton Institute and Research Professor of Interdisciplinary and Theological Studies at Kuyper College. He joins Kelsi to discuss his research, interest, and writing on the boy and man crisis and how he believes the Christus Victor articulation of the gospel – or Christ's victory over sin, death and the devil on the cross – has powerful implications for ridding men of shame and giving them a larger purpose to serve their neighbor.

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Hope in Special-Needs Parenting with Celeste Shally May 14, 2024

During a live recording at the HWSS NWA conference, Kelsi was joined by author Celeste Shally to discuss her book, While We Wait: Clinging to Christ in the Trenches of Special-Needs Parenting. Celeste details how her experience as a mom of Cooper, who has both autism and intellectual disability, has changed her view of suffering and vocation. She also talks about how special-needs parenting has highlighted God's grace and promises in the now and not yet for both her and Cooper.

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Encouragement for Motherhood with Katie Koplin Apr 30, 2024

1517 Contributor, Katie Koplin, joins Kelsi to talk about her new devotional, Encouragement for Motherhood which is a compilation of devotionals for moms, written by moms. Kelsi and Katie talk about their experiences in motherhood, how mom's are often primed to hear the gospel and absolution, and how freedom in Christ allows moms to work in their vocation and love their children without looking for their ultimate value and righteousness in this good work.

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Preaching the Gospel Constantly with Haroldo Camacho Apr 16, 2024

1517 Contributor, Haroldo Camacho, joins Kelsi to talk about how he found himself - without any previous background in Luther's works or Lutheranism - unexpectedly translating Luther's Commentary on Galatians in both Spanish and English. Kelsi and Haroldo touch on the need to constantly hear the gospel preached and the current opportunity to proclaim the gospel in Latin America and Central America - not simply as a conversion message but as both the central message of God's word for all people, in all circumstances.

Haroldo Camacho lives with his wife, Mercedes, and son, Orlando, in Davie, Florida. He obtained his doctorate from the School of Theology at Claremont in 1991 and served many years as a Certified Court Interpreter with the Judicial Council of California. He has translated Luther’s Commentary on the Epistle to the Galatians (1535) to both Spanish and English.

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The Gospel According to Revelation with Erick Sorensen Apr 02, 2024

Many of us stay away from spending too much time in the book of Revelation out of fear or intimidation. This is exactly why today’s guest, Erick Sorensen, decided to dive into the book and differing interpretations. In today’s show, Erick not only answers Kelsi’s questions on the various approaches to Revelation and Christian eschatology, but offers a guide on how to rightly read Revelation with Christ and his kingdom at the center. Erick Sorensen is in charge of Church Partnerships in the Development Department at 1517. Prior to joining 1517, Erick served as a pastor for 16 years. He hosts the Law & Gospel Devotional on 1517’s YouTube channel, co-hosts the 30 Minutes in the New Testament and Field Guide to the Bible podcasts, and is co-author of Scandalous Stories: A Sort of Commentary on the Parables. Timecodes: 00:00 Intro 1:20 About Erick 4:03 Theological background 7:20 The importance of experience in theology 8:55 Erick’s interest in the book of Revelation 13:05 Typical roadblocks to reading Revelation 15:00 Apocalyptic Literature 18:45 The first verse of Revelation 20:20 Two opinions on when Revelation was written 25:00 Four views on how to read Revelation 32:00 Three views on the end times 40:15 Literal or Metaphorical? 43:38 More background on Revelation 47:51 Tension between condemnation and comfort within Eschatology 52:30 The truth about the rapture 56:00 Trust not in princes 58:50 Who is the Antichrist? 1:01:43 The Good News of Revelation 1:04:50 More from Erick Show Notes:

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Poetry, Lent, and the Hope of Easter with Rachel Welcher Mar 22, 2024

Author and Poet, Rachel Welcher, joins Kelsi to talk about her collection of poems entitled, "Two Funerals, then Easter" in which Rachel shares personal stories of both grief and joy. Kelsi and Rachel talk about some of the characteristics of poetry, including honesty, double meanings and unresolved endings and how these characteristics often mirror both Scripture and the Christian life in general. Rachel also shares some wisdom on getting through Lent during difficult seasons in life and how Jesus' resurrection remains the anchor for her hope in this life and the resurrected life to come.

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Honesty, Humor, and the Human Condition with Andy Gullahorn Mar 06, 2024

Kelsi chats with singer/songwriter, Andy Gullahorn, about his writing process and the impact of ending stories with the good news of grace and the gospel. She asks Andy about the role of honesty and humor in his music, and Andy talks about the important role community plays in his life as a source of both law and gospel.

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Perfectionism and Its Problems with Elyse Fitzpatrick Feb 20, 2024

Author and speaker, Elyse Fitzpatrick, talks with Kelsi about the condemnation and accusation of the law, and as a result, how no one is able to truly achieve perfectionism. The two discuss what remedies the gospel offers us to this condemnation through Christ's perfect righteousness which is not only given through his active obedience but through his death and resurrection.

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Dying a Good Death with Ken Jones Feb 06, 2024

In this episode of Outside Ourselves, pastor and professor, Ken Jones, helps tackle the question, "What Does it Mean to Die a Good Death?" His answer, of course, has much to do with life and - in particular - the new life given to us through the death and resurrection of Jesus. Using his background in 16th century funeral preaching, Kelsi and Ken also discuss how Martin Luther defined a good death in comparison to the religion of his day and age.

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