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    Outlaws with TS Madison

    Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul’s Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming. Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal. Some episodes will crack you up. Others may crack you open. Keep the tissues nearby, just in case. “Outlaws” is proud to be part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, in partnership with Turtle Run Entertainment.

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    Mo'Nique: Money Can't Rub Your Back Aug 19, 2025
    Show notes

    For this episode of Outlaws, TS Madison is joined by the QUEEN of comedy herself, Mo’Nique!

    These girls go way back, and Mo’Nique shares a story about her and Madison’s first interview together. The pair talk about their respective journeys to stardom and navigating Hollywood as plus sized girls. Whether your trans or cis, there’s a lot of pressure to change who you are, but Mo’Nique isn’t having it. She reminds us that the public fell in love with THE TS Madison as she is, loud, live, and in COLOR!

    Next, Mo’Nique spills about her relationship with her husband Sidney Hicks, and how she fell in love with her best friend. She talks about how this relationship has opened up new ways of seeing herself, and what she deserves– and what we all deserve from love!

    And of course, neither our host or our guest today shies away from controversy– sometimes on opposite sides. We get a peak behind the scenes at how TS Madison helped reconcile Mo’Nique and Lee Daniel’s working relationship. And we’re all winning because of it! Could we see more TS Madison-facilitated reunions in the future? Could we see a conversation between Mo’Nique and Oprah? Or Tyler Perry? Mo’Nique and Maddie say the door is open!

    "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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    Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.

    Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

    Join our Patreon for exclusive content.: https://patreon.com/outlawswithtsmadison

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Orlando Jones: All Rebels Are Welcome Aug 12, 2025
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    With a multifaceted career both onscreen and behind the camera, Orlando Jones is the definition of a storyteller. And he’s no stranger to being called an outlaw– from "Mad TV" to Mr. Nancy, Orlando’s been shaking things up since the 90s!

    To start off, Orlando tells TS Madison about his evolution in the entertainment industry. An early adapter of mobile media content, Orlando’s media company won the first ever virtual reality Emmy Award. Next, they get into the nuances of centering Black voices in entertainment– storytelling is a powerful tool, and Orlando wants to see more stories by and for Black America!

    And of course, we have to get into the “American Gods” of it all. Madison thanks Orlando for his work shaping the show’s iconic, Mr. Nancy– not only playing the character on screen but developing the character in the writer’s room as well! The pair talk Mr. Nancy’s iconic monologues, the show’s reimagining of spirituality and mythology…and of course get into the details of Orlando’s controversial firing from the show– which prompted fan backlash and boycotts of the show’s third (and ultimately final) season.

    That’s not all– in an exclusive moment, Orlando Jones reveals he’s just finished a Mr. Nancy novel! Could we see a role for TS Madison if (and when) it’s ever adapted for the screen???

    "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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    Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.

    Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

    Join our Patreon for exclusive content.: https://patreon.com/outlawswithtsmadison

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Miss Lawrence: Welcome to Our Table Aug 05, 2025
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    This week on Outlaws, we’re bringing you the iconic Miss Lawrence! From Housewives to slaying the real estate game, this episode spotlights Black queer excellence. TS Madison and Miss Lawrence share their love for each other, as two groundbreaking voices of reality TV.

    Miss Lawrence talks his sh!t, with a previous career as one of the most sought after hairstylists in Atlanta which then laid the groundwork for his eclectic career in the entertainment industry. Madison and Lawrence dish on the public perception of flamboyant Black queens and the expectations that they will not succeed– which makes it even more important to celebrate their wins! Both of these icons have changed the way Blackness, queerness, and femininity are seen on and off screen– and their work is paying off!

    The duo delve into the highlights of Miss Lawrence's career– from his “Villain era” of pushing his team towards greatness, to the chance encounter that inspired him to close his salon and move onto bigger and brighter things, to working together on Bros and maybe a future project on the “sacrifices of the boot”…

    We’re then treated to a surprise facetime call and Maddie’s showstopping rendition of Happy Birthday for Miss Lawrence’s niece. And for this week’s Ban It, Bitch, Miss Lawrence is taking on Hookah bars (he’s saving all our voices, y’all!)

    In times like these where some are trying to erase Black and queer history, it’s now more important than ever to uplift voices like Miss Lawrence, that embody the abundance, excellence, and greatness we’re all capable of. We’re here and we’re not going anywhere!

    "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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    Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.

    Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

    Join our Patreon for exclusive content.: https://patreon.com/outlawswithtsmadison

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Terri Joe & Kelon Campbell: With Just One Lick Jul 29, 2025
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    Teresa Josephine Marie Fortenberry 🫱🏻‍🫲🏾Thunderstorm Madison.

    We’re mixing it up today with the internet’s favorite good Southern Christian girl, Terri Joe. Terri’s here to share the word of the Lord with TS Madison, and how she navigates the world as a true child of God amidst abominations like vampires, welfare, hair dye, and pork chops. Terri shares stories from growing up in Bon Temps, Louisiana, including her…unique conversion therapy method, granted to her by God. Over the years, Terri Joe has cured many a hommaseggsyuhs (except for her nemesis Saucy Santana) and her work is far from over!

    Unfortunately, Terri Joe had to leave unexpectedly mid-interview, but the phenomenal Kelon Campbell steps in to take over the rest of the episode!

    Madison shares her love for the success of Kelon’s alter ego and how sharing the stage with Terri Joe has been a longtime dream! Kelon reflects on how Terri Joe came to be, taking the stage with Madonna, and going live with legends (Doja Cat!). We get into everything from the night he was escorted by security out of Shawty Bae’s birthday party, to the upcoming TERRI JOE MOVIE in the works! Did y’all know that was happening?! Madison encourages Kelon, as an Outlaw and as one of the seeds of her garden, to speak on his accomplishments with a little more pride moving forward – because if you can't celebrate yourself, how in the hell you gonna celebrate somebody else?! AMEN.

    "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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    Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.

    Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

    Join our Patreon for exclusive content.: https://patreon.com/outlawswithtsmadison

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Bretman Rock: Ethereal Creatures Jul 22, 2025
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    BRETMAN ROCK has entered the chat! Bretman joins Maddie all the way from Hawai'i. We kick things off with a conversation on gender identity and B’s experiences growing up in Hawai‘i as a non-binary Filipino kid. Bretman shares how being raised among cultures where mahu and bakla are not only respected but revered helped him embrace the entire spectrum of gender identities. Madison opens up about her own experiences and ongoing learning regarding nonbinary identities. Then, as always, TS Madison asks her guest to talk his shit – and BABY, Bretman understood the assignment. Millionaire at 18? Check. Living his ancestors’ greatest dreams? Check. Peacocks in the backyard? Check. Bretman shares his origin story at a Wal-Mart, and Maddie helps him unpack his genuinely jawdropping villain era (trust, you HAVE to hear this one…!!!). We cover so much in this one: influencer “shelf-lives,” family trauma, bottoms who don’t use Pure for Men, generational healing, and why tourists in Hawai’i should NOT pet the seals!!! This is the crossover episode you didn’t know you needed.

    "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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    Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.

    Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

    Join our Patreon for exclusive content.: https://patreon.com/outlawswithtsmadison

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Laverne Cox: In My Resilient Zone Jul 15, 2025
    Show notes

    TS Madison is joined by the legend, the mother, the trendsetter, the seed planter, Maddie’s future presidential pick– Laverne Cox! Laverne is the DEFINITION of a trailblazer, as the first trans woman to grace the cover of Times Magazine, British Vogue, Cosmo, Essence, and so much more. And she’s not kicking down the ladder– Laverne says the best part of fame is getting to inspire and create space for up-and-coming trans and queer artists. She may be the first when it comes to nominations and accolades, but she will NOT be the last!

    Two pillars of trans media, Laverne and Madison discuss breaking into the entertainment industry as Black trans women, and the double standards and setbacks that are all too common. Laverne talks about her own journey waitressing in New York for years and almost getting evicted before reaching career success with Orange Is The New Black– and now executive producing and starring in her own TV series, Clean Slate.

    And there's no question why Maddie wants to see this TV star in office– Laverne talks gender theory, from reading Judith Butler and bell hooks in college, to what it means to be a trans person in 2025. Laverne provides insight into how the patriarchy demonizes trans women and cis women alike, why intersectionality is important, and breaks down the dangers of Project 2025 for all of us. It’s not an easy time, as trans and queer folks face more and more political attacks every day. But it’s voices like Laverne’s that remind us of our power.

    "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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    Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.

    Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

    Join our Patreon for exclusive content.: https://patreon.com/outlawswithtsmadison

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Bob the Drag Queen: Meet Me By the French Fries Jul 08, 2025
    Show notes

    Last week, Madison talked with Monét X Change, so it’s only fitting that today we have the other half of “Sibling Rivalry” on the pod– it’s “RuPaul’s Drag Race” Season 8 winner, Bob the Drag Queen!

    Drag superstar, comedian, Madonna’s MC– Bob’s adding “author” to an already impressive resume, with his new book "Harriet Tubman: Live in Concert!" But before getting into that, Madison and Bob talk Drag Race, douching etiquette, sobriety, and concealed carry– if you needed another reason not to mess with Maddie.

    Bob talks about his lifelong obsession with Harriet Tubman and everything she accomplished in her long life. Bob shares his favorite photo of Harriet looking regal as hell in her 90s and the book’s heartfelt dedication to Bob’s late mother, as well as anecdotes from his research.

    Manifestation is a big theme in this episode– from historical examples to personal ones. These are southern girls, so we’re mixing scripture and spells– from reflecting on Harriet Tubman’s spirituality, to on-air-manifesting Madison’s next collab. And Bob talks about getting a glowing review from his favorite performers of all time– is the key to meeting your heroes getting them tattooed on your body? Or maybe just a mood board…

    "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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    Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.

    Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

    Join our Patreon for exclusive content.: https://patreon.com/outlawswithtsmadison

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Monét X Change: Don't Press the Button Jul 01, 2025
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    Today, Madison is joined by “Drag Race” alum, the one and only Monét X Change!

    To start off, we’re talking about the gender spectrum– she, her, he, him, they, them, and whatever else you want to throw in there. The ladies have a cross-general conversation about how expectations of gender identity and presentation have changed. Monét talks about her pronouns in and out of drag, and deep questions such as, to boob or not to boob? Doth the position maketh man (or woman)?

    Next we’re going nuclear– we all know Maddie doesn’t play and she doesn’t pull any punches. Monét’s villain era inspires today’s target… a certain blond haired talk show host who thinks she can hate on the trans community and still love the Ru girls. Okay…

    Like Madison says, if you don’t want to go nuclear, don’t press the button!

    This episode is bringing you big topics– like the importance of voting rights– and even bigger questions. Like, what the f*ck is a caramel macchiato?? Is New York really worth the winters? When will Madison become a regular judge on “Drag Race”? And will we see Madison follow in Monét’s footsteps as a future star of “The Traitors”???

    "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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    Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.

    Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

    Join our Patreon for exclusive content.: https://patreon.com/outlawswithtsmadison

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Saucy Santana: God Protects His Girls Jun 24, 2025
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    He’s a Libra, he’s successful, he’s amazing, he’s a trendsetter…a bad bitch all around, in this episode TS Madison is joined by the Material Gworl himself, SAUCY SANTANA!

    They discuss the impact of growing up watching "Real Housewives of Atlanta" and "RuPaul’s Drag Race" MADE Saucy Santana, exploring makeup as a teenager, swapping gender expectations for authenticity, and Maddie shares her own experience transitioning at 17.

    Doesn’t matter if you’re he/him, she/her, they/them, this episode is for the GWORLS! Madison and Saucy talk intersectionality, fighting back against prejudice from within their own communities. We’re all in the fight to tear down white supremacy together!

    Next, we get into Santana's villain era, his days reading bitches on twitter, how fame changed that, and also, we learn about the moment when Maddie realized she had become an elder.

    "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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    Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.

    Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

    Join our Patreon for exclusive content.: https://patreon.com/outlawswithtsmadison

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


    Symone: You Are an Answered Prayer Jun 17, 2025
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    She’s a winner, baby! TS Madison is joined by the legendary Rupaul’s Drag Race Season 13 winner… it’s Symone!

    The duo jump immediately into it, and 'it' we mean a crash course on the astrological science of good sex, and the art of giving commands—and the sorcery doesn’t stop there. This episode is like an hour-long affirmation: we're vision-boarding with words, commanding the universe to deliver our “gots,” declaring “I AM!,” and stepping into the spirituality of queerness. It’s all about the Word, honey!

    The conversation then turns to the Ebony Enchantress’s journey from Arkansas to the main stage of RuPaul’s Drag Race. (Fun fact: Season 13 wasn’t just her winning season—it was also the first time Maddie sat on the judging panel.) She recalls what it felt like, from that side of the table, to watch the rising star walk the runway for the very first time.

    Together they reflect on the impact that RuPaul Charles has had—not just on their own lives, but on the entire world—then bond over life’s ups and downs, those moments of feeling entirely lost, and the breakthroughs that promised brighter tomorrows. When Symone opens up about her lowest point, Maddie delivers an unforgettable pep talk, reminding her (and all of us) that it’s never about where you start; it’s always about where you go. Grab your tissues, y’all! We’re laughing, we’re crying, and we’re immediately queuing up a re-watch of RPDR Season 13!!!

    "Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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    Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.

    Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

    Join our Patreon for exclusive content.: https://patreon.com/outlawswithtsmadison

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


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