Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast

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Browns freeing up money, Nick Chubb’s future and Joel Bitonio’s back Mar 06, 2025

Show notes

The Browns restructured Deshaun Watson’s contract on Thursday to help get them cap compliant and free up some room for the offseason. It came a day after they got the good news that Joel Bitonio will be back for another season.

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss Watson’s contract restructure and the team’s roster goals for the upcoming season

They also talk about the future of Nick Chubb and why the Browns are letting him hit the market and if it’s the right move before they delve into the future of Elijah Moore and the plan at receiver.

Then they get into the implications of Bitonio’s return and what it means before they veer into veteran quarterback options and if they think the Browns should bring back Joe Flacco.

Approximate time stamps:

0:00 Deshaun Watson’s Contract Restructure

2:52 Browns' Roster Goals and Free Agency Plans

5:48 Nick Chubb’s Future with the Browns

9:10 Elijah Moore’s Performance and Potential Departure

27:48 Joel Bitonio’s Return: A Positive Sign for the Browns

39:52 Quarterback Options: Looking Ahead

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Shedeur Sanders rumors and the possibility of the Browns trading up for Cam Ward Mar 05, 2025

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NFL Draft season means rumor season and the rumors are flying about the Browns' potential No. 2 pick, Shedeur Sanders. It has been reported this week that a quarterback coach who was in a team interview with Sanders didn’t like his attitude.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the report and more on the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They discuss how they view reports like this and what it means about Sanders as he comes in for a visit with the Browns this week.

Then they talk about Cam Ward and if the Browns should consider moving up to No. 1 to have a shot to select Ward in the draft.

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Which quarterbacks will the Browns pursue in free agency? Hey, Mary Kay! Mar 03, 2025

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The Browns will venture into free agency next week when the new league year opens on March 12, two days after the legal tampering period begins.

One of the positions they will look to fill is quarterback, searching a for a veteran likely to pair with a rookie. What options could they explore?

Mary Kay Cabot answers that question in the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay and Dan talk through some of the options.

They also talk about last week’s NFL Combine and what they took away from it and what matters in the draft process and answer questions about the NFLPA team report cards, Myles Garrett and more.

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What did we learn on quarterback day at the NFL Combine and what does it mean for the Browns? Mar 01, 2025

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The Browns are back in the quarterback market so quarterback day at the NFL Combine matters once again with the draft less than two months away.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe listened to the quarterbacks talk on Friday and then recorded the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They start by talking about the top two prospects and the contrasts in their personalities and playing styles. How do Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders fit with the Browns? Is one a better option than the other?

Then they get into some of the players who make up the rest of this year’s class. Should the Browns draft Will Howard? What about Jaxson Dart and Jalen Milroe? They get into all of it and more.

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What changes with Myles Garrett and the Browns after he refuses to negotiate an extension? Feb 28, 2025

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The Browns and Myles Garrett have reached a potential inflection point in their standoff, with Garrett and his camp not interested in negotiating an extension. It’s another twist in the saga between the two sides.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dig into the latest on the Garrett vs. the Browns situation on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine.

They talk about what this means and if this is what could cause the Browns to decide to trade Garrett. They also talk about what could have happened between the two sides and the role Klutch Sports plays in all of this.

They also talk about the team building impact of trading Garrett and if it would change their view on how the Browns approach this offseason.

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Why did the Browns grade so poorly in NFLPA survey? Feb 27, 2025

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The Browns — and Kevin Stefanski — did not fare well on the NFLPA’s 2025 report card.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Wednesday Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine by talking about why Stefanski and the Browns graded so poorly, what they can and can’t understand and what the Browns should do about it.

First, they spend some time on Kevin Stefanski backing up GM Andrew Berry on hanging on to Myles Garrett after his trade request.

Then they get into Deshaun Watson rehabbing in Cleveland and what it says about Watson and the Browns and how this will play out.

They wrap up the podcast by getting into Stefanski’s glowing comments about this year’s quarterback draft class.

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Browns GM Andrew Berry isn’t budging on Myles Garrett’s trade request, so now what? Feb 26, 2025

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Browns GM Andrew Berry spoke on Tuesday for the first time since Myles Garrett went public with his trade request and, unsurprisingly, Berry held his ground in regards to the request.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss what Berry had to say about Garrett and more on their Tuesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine.

They also talk about Berry acknowledging that running back Nick Chubb will hit free agency and tryied to pick through the crumbs of what he said to see if he gave any hints about the team’s free agency or draft plans.

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Could the Browns really get in on the Matthew Stafford sweepstakes? Feb 24, 2025

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The Browns are confident that if they get quarterback figured out, they can start winning again, so when a quarterback like Matthew Stafford might be available, it’s incumbent on the Browns to inquire.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe took a break from scrambling to get ready to leave for the NFL Scouting Combine on Monday on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast to talk about the Browns and Stafford and if the Browns really should get aggressive in going after Stafford and if they could actually land him.

They also talk about the release of safety Juan Thornhill and what’s next at the position and who needs to step up.

Lastly, they discuss Shedeur Sanders not throwing at the Combine and whether they expect Cam Ward to do the same and why it does — or doesn’t — matter.

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Wading through pre-Combine rumors about Myles Garrett and Browns QB plans Feb 21, 2025

Show notes

The Browns and Myles Garrett remain at a standstill as the NFL Combine starts next week. It’s one of the flashpoints in this ordeal as the event brings GMs and coaches together in one place.

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the ongoing situation surrounding Garrett, including potential trade rumors and contract negotiations.

They delve into the financial implications of trading Garrett, the value he brings to the team and the Browns' draft strategy, particularly regarding quarterback prospects.

Among the highlights:

Garrett’s situation is complex.
The Browns have control over Garrett’s future due to his contract.
Andrew Berry is likely to slow play the situation with Garrett.
The value of a player like Garrett is difficult to quantify in terms of wins.
It’s essential to question the motives behind leaked information during the Combine.

Time stamps (approximate)

00:00 Introduction and Garrett’s Situation

05:40 Financial Implications of Trading Miles Garrett

15:06 Assessing the Value of Garrett

20:16 Quarterback Decisions and Draft Strategies

30:51 Rumors and Speculations Ahead of the Draft

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What does the future hold for Nick Chubb and other key Browns veterans? Feb 20, 2025

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Browns cornerback Greg Newsome II wants to be in Cleveland long-term, even with free agency looming after this season. He’ll have a chance to make his case in 2025, but his role is still up in the air.

The Browns will have to make decisions sooner on some other players who have been around a while — while they wait on the decision of their longest-tenured player about his future.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look to the future on a number of Browns free agents on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast after they discuss Newsome’s future with the team.

They talk about Jedrick Wills Jr., Nick Chubb, Joel Bitonio and Jameis Winston and whether they will be around for a little while longer or if their time in a Browns uniform is over.

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