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    Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast

    Get the latest news and analysis about the Cleveland Browns from Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Dan Labbe and special guests on cleveland.com

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    Why a switch to Dillon Gabriel could spark the Browns offense + breaking down the Lions film Sep 30, 2025
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    The Browns are heading to London on Wednesday and they could have a new starting quarterback before they leave.

    Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our Tuesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by setting up the week ahead and talking about the potential switch from Joe Flacco to Dillon Gabriel and why they feel like the time is right to make the move.

    They also talk about the opportunity ahead of the Browns to win a game against a team that is banged up in the wrong spots to be banged up against this defense.

    Then Lance Reisland joins the show to talk about what he saw on the Lions film and throw a bunch of "Would you rather..." questions at Dan.

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    Is a potential Browns QB switch to Dillon Gabriel the right decision? Hey, Mary Kay! Sep 30, 2025
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    The Browns could be on the verge of making a quarterback change following their 34-10 loss to the Lions. Head coach Kevin Stefanski wouldn't commit to Joe Flacco as his starter on Monday.

    Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the potential quarterback change and why it might make sense for the Browns to turn things over to Gabriel.

    They also talk about the acquisition of tackle Cam Robinson.

    Then they discuss the emergence of Isaiah Bond and what the Browns should do to fix their special teams.

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    Should the Browns consider benching Joe Flacco? Postgame podcast Sep 29, 2025
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    The Browns are once again searching for answers offensively after a 34-10 loss in Detroit on Sunday. While many of the issues run deeper than quarterback, Joe Flacco is getting some heat for the offensive struggles.

    Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into the question of whether it's time to hand things over to Dillon Gabriel or stick with Flacco.

    They talk about the issues Flacco is having as well as the issues overall on the offense and if Gabriel would actually improve anything.

    Then, Lance Reisland joins the show to discuss the quarterback situation and his thoughts on where the Browns are after four weeks.

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    Browns at Lions: Picks, preview and scouting report Sep 26, 2025
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    The Browns return to the road for their Week 4 game against the Lions. Detroit is 2-1 and the Browns are coming off a dramatic upset win over the Packers and are 1-2.

    On our Friday Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast, we get into all angles of this matchup.

    Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by setting up the game with the big storylines for Sunday.

    Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Lions scouting report and makes his pick.

    Dan comes back and digs up a couple of prop bets he likes for the game.

    Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday's game.

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    Should the Browns unleash Joe Flacco? Sep 24, 2025
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    The Browns are trying to find a solution to their struggling offense and it likely starts with the connection between their quarterback, Joe Flacco, and his No. 1 receiver Jerry Jeudy. Getting them going would go a long ways to jumpstarting an offense that has not been good over the season's first three weeks.

    What if part of the problem, too, is being too conservative? Is it time to let Flacco cook?

    Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the offense, Flacco and Jeudy on Wednesday's edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

    Are they too scared about Flacco turning the ball over? Or is this the right formula?

    Then they look at some of the injuries the Browns are monitoring going into Sunday, including Denzel Ward, who didn't practice on Wednesday and would be a big loss if he's unable to play on Sunday for some reason.

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    Browns and Lions pose intriguing matchup + Packers film breakdown Sep 23, 2025
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    The Browns and their elite defense go to Detroit this year to try and slow down an elite Lions offense that has been in a rhythm the last two weeks. It’s the type of matchup that makes the NFL must-watch TV.

    Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by looking at storylines and things they’re thinking as Week 4 gets going.

    How will the Browns deal with the Lions offense? Can Kevin Stefanski outcoach Dan Campbell? Is Dillon Gabriel’s debut looming?

    Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to break down what he saw on film in the Browns’ win over the Packers.

    Then Dan and Lance do a draft of things that remind them of the ‘90s.

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    What will the Browns do at tackle? What's next for Shedeur Sanders? Hey, Mary Kay! Sep 22, 2025
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    The Browns won in dramatic fashion on Sunday over the Packers but were met with bad news on Monday when head coach Kevin Stefanski announced tackle Dawand Jones' season was over.

    Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by reliving Sunday's win and then digging into what losing Jones means for the Browns tackle position and the offensive line long term.

    Then they talk about Quinshon Judkins and the running game and if it can help open up the passing game as well as Joe Flacco's struggles and how long his leash is, even after Sunday's win.

    Lastly, they talk Shedeur Sanders and his dad confirming the report he told the Ravens not to draft him, Mary Kay's conversation with Sanders and how Sanders' thoughts on how close he is to being ready coincide with the Browns' plans at quarterback, including potentially in next year's draft.

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    How did the Browns pull that upset over the Packers? Postgame podcast Sep 22, 2025
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    The Browns used a frantic final four minutes to pull an upset over the Green Bay Packers on Sunday at Huntington Bank Field. They beat the previously undefeated Packers, 13-10.

    Our postgame edition of the Orange and Brown talk podcast begins with Mary Kay Cabot joining Dan Labbe to share her thoughts on the win and why the Browns were able to pull it off.

    Then Lance Reisland and Ashley Bastock joined as part of our live postgame podcast, which we record every Sunday at 8 p.m.

    They talk about why the Browns were able to win this game, the performance of the defense, if this formula is sustainable and what it means for this team moving forward.

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    Browns vs. Packers: Picks, preview and scouting report Sep 19, 2025
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    The Browns return home for their Week 3 game against the Packers. Green Bay is 2-0 while the Browns are winless.

    On our Friday Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast, we get into all angles of this matchup.

    Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by setting up the game with the big storylines for Sunday.

    Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Packers scouting report and makes his pick.

    Dan comes back and digs up a couple of prop bets he likes for the game.

    Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday's game.

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    Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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    Can the Browns figure out a way to neutralize Green Bay? + Dawand Jones rotates + Is Mike Hall getting close? Sep 17, 2025
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    Green Bay is bringing a monster of a defense to Cleveland on Sunday, a group that spent the first two weeks of the season harassing quarterbacks and shutting down offenses.

    Will the Browns and veteran quarterback Joe Flacco be able to figure this defense out or will they once again struggle like they did against the Ravens in Week 2?

    Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing how the Browns can try to figure this defense out.

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