Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast

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Browns-Bills preview: Shedeur Sanders’ rebound, run game woes & Myles Garrett’s record chase Dec 19, 2025

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On the Browns-Bills preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down the key storylines for the upcoming matchup.

They discuss whether quarterback Shedeur Sanders can rebound from his three-interception game last week against the Bills' second-ranked pass defense. They also talk about his need to improve his decision-making, build chemistry with his receivers beyond his security blanket, Harold Fannin Jr., and take the easy completions offered to him.

Another major topic: the Browns' struggling run game.

They also get into if this is the week Myles Garrett will break the single-season sack record.

Lance Reisland joins the show to provide his in-depth scouting report on the Bills. He explains why he believes Josh Allen is the best quarterback in the league, highlights the underrated talent of running back James Cook and breaks down their dangerous special teams.

Lastly, everyone makes their picks for Sunday's game.

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The Shedeur Sanders question: Can the Browns afford to be patient? Dec 18, 2025

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On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get into the future of the Browns quarterback position, centered around Shedeur Sanders.

They start by dissecting Sanders' weekly press conference, covering his mindset of laying a foundation, the advice he received from Jameis Winston and his ongoing efforts to build chemistry with his receivers.

The discussion then explores the central 'dichotomy' facing the team: Can they afford to be patient with a developing rookie when the Super Bowl window for veterans like Myles Garrett is closing?

With a potential top draft pick looming, the pressure is on.

They also delve into the significant uncertainty surrounding the coaching staff and front office. They debate whether Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry will return and how those decisions will ultimately shape the most important position on the team.

Who will be making the call on the Browns' quarterback in 2026, and what will that decision be?

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Myles Garrett’s record chase, Shedeur Sanders response & a huge Bills test for Browns defense Dec 17, 2025

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On Wednesday’s Orange Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to the Browns' Week 16 matchup against the Buffalo Bills.

They discusses the immense pressure on quarterback Shedeur Sanders to rebound from a tough game as he faces off against MVP candidate Josh Allen.

They also focus on Myles Garrett's quest to break the NFL's single-season sack record at home and analyze the challenges facing a Browns defense that is grappling with injuries and a tough offensive opponent.

In the second half, film expert Lance Reisland joins the show for a detailed breakdown of the game against the Bears. Reisland provides in-depth analysis of Sanders' development, the impressive instincts of rookie Carson Schwesinger and how the defense is coping with the loss of key players.

The episode wraps up with a draft of the most frustrating things to wait for, from airport lines to slow elevators.

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Is the 2025 NFL draft enough to save Andrew Berry’s job? Hey, Mary Kay! Dec 16, 2025

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Following the Browns’ 31-3 loss to the Chicago Bears, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe tackle the biggest question facing the Cleveland Browns: What does the future hold for head coach Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry?

They kick off the Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by debating whether one or both could be fired and if Berry's successful 2025 draft class is enough to secure his position.

The conversation quickly turns to the franchise's most glaring need: a quarterback.

Dan and Mary Kay discuss the immense pressure on the front office to finally find their guy, questioning the trust in Andrew Berry's evaluation skills for the league's most important position.

Then they get into Shedeur Sanders' performance, analyzing his recent step back against the Bears. Where does Sanders need to improve? How will the Browns get a full enough evaluation on him?

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How can the Browns properly evaluate Shedeur Sanders? Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast Dec 15, 2025

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In the postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down the Browns' 31-3 loss to the Chicago Bears.

They dive into the performance of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders, who had a rough outing with three interceptions after a standout game the previous week. They analyze the extenuating circumstances, including a depleted offensive line, key injuries and a critical dropped pass by Jerry Jeudy that resulted in an interception, questioning how the front office can properly evaluate him.

The discussion then broadens to the team's overall execution, highlighting the chaotic nature of the game, repeated special teams blunders and procedural mistakes.

This leads to a critical conversation about head coach Kevin Stefanski's job security and whether he is giving the front office reasons to make a change.

The episode also examines the perplexing season of Jeudy, contrasting his struggles this year with his Pro Bowl performance last season.

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Browns at Bears: Will Shedeur Sanders seize the QB job? + Picks, preview and scouting report Dec 12, 2025

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On our Browns at Bears preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe offer a complete look-ahead to the Browns' frigid road game against the Chicago Bears.

The primary focus is on rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders.

After taking huge strides last week, can he repeat his performance against a Bears defense that leads the league in takeaways and interceptions? This game is a critical test of his development and his bid to be the Browns' franchise quarterback.

They also discuss how the Browns' defense will bounce back against the run after giving up big plays to the Titans, and whether Myles Garrett can get closer to the sack record against an elusive Caleb Williams.

Then, film analyst Lance Reisland joins to provide an in-depth report on Bears head coach Ben Johnson's creative offense and the Bears' opportunistic defense.

To wrap it up, Mary Kay, Ashley, Lance and Dan all make their predictions.

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Shedeur Sanders' learning curve and how mistakes are helping the Browns rookie grow Dec 11, 2025

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On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk all things Shedeur Sanders.

With Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski officially handing him the reins for the rest of the season, they analyze what stood out from the rookie quarterback's latest press conference. They discuss Shedeur's hungry, underdog mentality, noting that as a fifth-round pick, he understands nothing is guaranteed and he has to prove himself in the final four games.

The conversation explores how his draft day fall may have been the best thing for his career, giving him a chip on his shoulder and an edge that's fueling his rapid development.

They also break down his ability to learn from mistakes, like the costly interception against the Titans, and how he's balancing his "hero ball" instincts with smarter play.

They also touch on the dynamic between Sanders and his risk-averse head coach, and how the coach is learning how to best use the rookie's impressive elusiveness and accuracy.

Finally, they look ahead to the frigid matchup against the interception-heavy Chicago Bears, a true test of his progress and mental fortitude.

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Shedeur Sanders' audition for the Browns + where he improved against the Titans Dec 10, 2025

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On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe set up Bears week.

With the Browns eliminated from the playoffs, the focus shifts to the future, and that means all eyes are on quarterback Shedeur Sanders. They discuss his four-game audition for the starting job, breaking down his impressive performance against the Titans, the explosiveness he brings to the offense and the critical need for game management and avoiding costly mistakes.

They also get into how Sanders will fare against the Bears' turnover-happy defense and how the Browns' own run defense will handle Chicago's top-tier rushing attack after a poor showing against Tennessee.

Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film from the loss to the Titans. Lance offers his perspective on Sanders' growth, toughness and improved processing.

He also provides a detailed schematic breakdown of exactly why the run defense struggled.

The show wraps up with a “Start-Bench-Cut” segment, debating everything from Hall-of-Fame quarterbacks to Christmas cookies.

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Can Shedeur Sanders prove he's the Browns’ future QB? Hey, Mary Kay! Dec 09, 2025

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On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe get right to the biggest topic in Cleveland sports: Shedeur Sanders.

Following the Browns' 31-29 loss to the Titans, Sanders has been named the starting quarterback for the rest of the season, and the hosts break down what's at stake. With four tough games ahead, can the fifth-round pick prove he is the franchise's future and take the Browns out of the quarterback sweepstakes in the 2026 NFL Draft?

Mary Kay and Dan talk Sanders' impressive traits, from his "it factor" and elite accuracy to his surprising elusiveness and guts in the pocket.

They also discuss the massive financial implications of finding a star QB on a rookie deal and how it could allow the Browns to build around him.

Answering questions from Football Insider subscribers, they explore what the quarterback room could look like in 2026 with Sanders, Deshaun Watson and Dillon Gabriel, and debate whether it should be an open competition.

They also dissect the controversial two-point conversions against the Titans and the analytics behind Kevin Stefanski's aggressive decisions.

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Did Shedeur Sanders make his case to be the Browns quarterback long-term? Postgame podcast Dec 08, 2025

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On this live postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe dig into the ⁠Browns⁠' 31-29 loss to the Titans.

Despite the loss, the main topic of conversation is the breakout performance of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders, who threw for 364 yards and accounted for four total touchdowns. They discuss how Sanders bolstered his case to be the Browns' starting quarterback for the future, leading two clutch touchdown drives late in the game to give his team a chance to win.

The podcast then pivots to the controversial coaching decisions that ultimately cost the Browns the game. They get into the two failed two-point conversion attempts, specifically the decision to take a red-hot Sanders off the field for the final, game-tying try. They debate the analytics behind the calls and whether it was a moment for "players over plays."

Finally, the discussion turns to the team's numerous mistakes, including costly special teams errors and a defensive letdown, and what this loss could mean for the future of head coach Kevin Stefanski.

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