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OA838: Trump's Lawyers Blame China For Making Him Do That Coup & Oh Rudy Nov 29, 2023

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Liz and Andrew dissect Trump's latest request for additional discovery in the DC indictment before analyzing Rudy Giuliani having found the one thing he fears more than Judge Beryl Howell: a jury of his peers!

Notes Trump Motion for Discovery https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.167.0.pdf

Trump DC indictment https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148.1.0_12.pdf

Trump DC indictment - PDF copy (scannable) https://www.justice.gov/storage/US_v_Trump_23_cr_257.pdf

Rudy “Trial Brief” https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720.107.0.pdf

Mwani v. Bin Laden https://casetext.com/case/mwani-v-bin-ladin

Freeman/Moss Opp Motion for Bench Trial https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720.109.0.pdf

Rudy response to Howell Minute Order https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720/gov.uscourts.dcd.238720.110.0.pdf

Pence told Jan. 6 special counsel harrowing details about 2020 aftermath, warnings to Trump: Sources https://abcnews.go.com/US/pence-told-jan-6-special-counsel-harrowing-details/story?id=105183391

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OA837: BREAKING - Mike Lindell is Lying about Voting Machines (Again!) Nov 27, 2023

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Liz has finally beat the flu (or whatever) and makes her triumphant return breaking down a voting machine case in Georgia that is NOT crazy. So, of course, Mike "Lumpy Pillows" Lindell is lying about it.

The duo also break down all the developments with Trump's various gag orders.

Notes Affidavit in support of Trump gag order to NY First Judicial Department in Trump v. Engoron

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=inVGdvHSdXKWMxr30v8AXw==

Trump DC Cir. Letter re: harassment of Engoron’s clerk

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cadc.40232/gov.uscourts.cadc.40232.1208573931.0_3.pdf

Curling v. Raffensperger

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24163431/11-10-23-trial-order-denial-of-summary-judgment.pdf

NAACP v. Sanders

https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Opinion.pdf

52 USC 10308

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/10308

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OA836: Yes, A Court Found That Trump "Incited An Insurrection" - Now What? (feat. Seth Barrett Tillman) Nov 24, 2023

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With Liz sidelined, Andrew welcomes back friend of the show Seth Barrett Tillman for an in-depth discussion of Anderson v. Griswold, a Colorado state court opinion that found by clear and convincing evidence that Donald Trump incited an insurrection on January 6, 2021.

What implications does that have? Listen and find out!

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Notes Anderson v. Griswoldhttps://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/02nd_Judicial_District/Denver_District_Court/11_17_2023%20Final%20Order.pdf

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OA835: Why Harrison Floyd Isn't Going to Jail (& More) Nov 22, 2023

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Andrew and Liz tackle three updates: Elon Musk's "thermonuclear" lawsuit against Media Matters; Harrison Floyd's bond revocation hearing; and a truly terrible decision out of the 8th Circuit.

Notes NAACP v. Sandershttps://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Opinion.pdf

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OA834: Elon Musk Will Save Free Speech By Suing Every Media Outlet on Earth Nov 20, 2023

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Andrew and an ailing Liz break down Elon Musk's latest threat to try and sue a media outlet critical of Twitter into silence - this time, Media Matters for America - through the lens of his last lawsuit, against the tiny charity the Center for Countering Digital Hate, which produced an investigative report showing that Twitter profits from weaponized antisemitism and white supremacy. Oh, and the duo begin with a Life Comes At You Fast, where Justice Arthur Engoron has already denied the Trump motion for a new trial discussed just last episode! Notes CCDH, Toxic Twitter https://counterhate.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Toxic-Twitter_FINAL.pdf Engoron order denying motion for new trial https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=e7egXMrk5KE0sOyTUjgixg==&system=prod CCDH Motion to Dismiss https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.416212/gov.uscourts.cand.416212.47.0_1.pdf NY Judicial Ethics Opinion 98-19 https://nycourts.gov/legacyhtm/ip/judicialethics/opinions/98-19.htm OA 795 https://openargs.com/oa795-the-x-filings-elon-musks-plan-to-leave-no-lawyer-behind/ Media Matters post 11/16 https://www.mediamatters.org/twitter/musk-endorses-antisemitic-conspiracy-theory-x-has-been-placing-ads-apple-bravo-ibm-oracle Initial letters from Musk https://counterhate.com/blog/letters-from-the-lawyers-musk-threatens-ccdh-with-brazen-attempt-to-silence-honest-criticism/ Amended Complaint, X v. CCDH https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.416212/gov.uscourts.cand.416212.10.0.pdf

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OA833: Trump Demands New NY Trial Because Liz Is Mean Online Nov 17, 2023

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Liz and Andrew break down the very real question of free speech versus a fair trial when viewed through the lens of (1) Donald Trump's motion for a mistrial in New York and (2) Trump's argument against the gag order to the DC Circuit. Come for the 1966 history, stay for hearing how Trump is going to lose!

Oh, and our Liz Dye might have played a role in the whole mistrial thing....

Notes Trump NY motion mistrial

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=N0PX1FMtdplL/b5Oq9DwXg==

Trump DC Cir Brief

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cadc.40232/gov.uscourts.cadc.40232.1208569217.0_1.pdf

Trump gag order DC

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148.105.0_2.pdf

DOJ DC Cir Brief

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cadc.40232/gov.uscourts.cadc.40232.1208570955.0_4.pdf

DC Local Rules

https://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/sites/dcd/files/local_rules/Local%20Rules%20April_2023%282%29.pdf

Gentile v. State Bar of Nevada, 501 U.S. 1030 (1991)

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12991687764638238096

FRCP 26

https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_26

NYS Crim Pro 280.10

https://ypdcrime.com/cpl/article280.php

Wheatley School alumni memo

http://www.wheatleyalumni.org/BlogPost/Blogpost-20220911-78.html

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OA832: The Sam Bankman-Fried Story: Math Whiz Bets He's Smarter Than Prosecutors, Loses (feat. Mitchell Epner) Nov 15, 2023

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Liz and Andrew welcome back Mitchell Epner to explain exactly what happened with the Sam Bankman-Fried trial.

Notes SBF Superseding indictment https://www.justice.gov/media/1311286/dl?inline=

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OA831: Did Judge Aileen Cannon Really Rule Against Trump? (No.) Nov 13, 2023

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Liz and Andrew break down a ruling that was surprising to many - Judge Aileen Cannon, FSW, denying Trump's motion to postpone his trial. What does it really mean? Listen and find out! Then, the two break down Trump's litigation strategy (if you can call it that) in the E. Jean Carroll defamation lawsuit. In the Patreon bonus, the two discuss Donald Trump's plan to save America from sliding into authoritarianism! Notes Be sure to sign up for Liz's substack! Marcy Wheeler on Trump production https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/10/29/the-piles-of-chris-kise-bullshit-devlin-barrett-claims-to-believe/

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OA830: Trump Eats it on the Witness Stand as Republicans Eat it at the Polls (feat. Joe Dye) Nov 10, 2023

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Liz and Andrew break down Donald Trump's testimony in the New York civil investigation. Then, Andrew welcomes back Joe Dye to talk about Tuesday's election results. You won't want to miss it! Notes Engoron PSJ order https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24120504-engoron-decision-sept-2023 -Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/law

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OA829: More on the Classified Information Procedures Act (feat. Kel McClanahan) Nov 06, 2023

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Today, Liz and Andrew welcome back Kel McClanahan to break down recent Classified Information Procedures Act ("CIPA") rulings in Donald Trump's cases in DC and Florida. What does it portend? Listen and find out!

Notes Trump DC docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656595/united-states-v-trump/

Trump SDFL docket

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490069/united-states-v-trump/

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