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    Religion & Spirituality

    On Belief: A Podcast About Cults

    We all would like to think that we’re immune to being persuaded, but were that true, advertising wouldn’t work, the best candidates would always get elected, and our personal relationships would always be equitable.
    On Belief examines why, with so much information available to us to dissuade us from joining harmful groups. I ask people who have had first hand experience with harmful groups and sects how they were seduced, how they were tricked, and how they got out.

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    Episode 116: Jehovah's Witnesses Part 2 with Jerry Minor Aug 20, 2019
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    Before Jerry Minor was a successful actor in Los Angeles, he was a boy growing up in the Jehovah's Witnesses. In this episode we discuss:

    • What it feels like to have one parent in the Witnesses and one parent outside
    • What kinds of pressures are put on Witness kids
    • How real the threats of the Apocalypse and Demons are
    • What he knew about the child abuse scandals that have plagued the witnesses
    • What he knew about Jehovah's Witnesses lobbying the government for consideration
    • And more...

    Content warning: there is a brief mention of suicidal ideation

    You can listen to Jerry's podcast here

    Special Guest: Jerry Minor.

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    Episode 115: Jehovah's Witnesses Part 1 with Dawn Wilburn-Saboe Aug 13, 2019
    Show notes

    In this episode, guest Dawn Wilburn-Saboe explains what life was like in the witnesses, how traumatic and painful the process of disfellowshipment is, and what life is like on the other side.

    We discuss:

    • How children are expected to contribute in services
    • How children are expected to live
    • What it's like to be 'the kid who has to sit in the hall for the national anthem'
    • What it's like to be a teen in the Witnesses
    • What it's like to have to answer to elders for normal sexual exploration
    • What it's like to be disfellowshipped
    • And more...

    Special Guest: Dawn Wilburn-Saboe.

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    Episode 114: Quiverfull with Guest Heather Doney Aug 06, 2019
    Show notes

    In this episode, Heather Doney, raised in Quiverfull explains:

    • What homeschooling was like for her
    • The burdens and fears of children responsible for their younger (and infant) siblings
    • What kinds of strains are put on Quiverfull families
    • How boys and girls are raised differently
    • Why Quiverfull families eschew medicine, even when it can save a mother's life
    • And more...

    Special Guest: Heather Doney.

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    Episode 113: Quiverfull with Guest Kathryn Joyce Jul 30, 2019
    Show notes

    In this episode, Kathryn Joyce, author of Quiverfull: Inside The Christian Patriarchy Movement (ASIN: B0029Y76I4)

    Discusses what Quivefull followers actually believe. We discuss:

    • Where is church for Quiverfull families?
    • What is "Home Churching?"
    • Why is Homeschooling so important to these families?
    • Why Quiverfull families are distrustful of the government
    • Why some families live desperately close to the poverty line
    • And more...

    Special Guest: Kathryn Joyce.

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    Episode 111: Cult Hopping & NXIVM Trial Update With Guest EJ Dickson Jul 16, 2019
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    Guest EJ Dickson, who covered the NXIVM trial for Rolling Stone joins me to discuss the details of the trial and a phenomenon known as cult hopping, which she was made aware of from some people who testified at the NXIVM trial.

    In this episode, we discuss:

    • The lurid nature of the testimony
    • Surprises revealed in court
    • Whether key figures are still supportive of Keith
    • Whether these verdicts are precedent-setting
    • How people cult hop
    • What makes a person cult hop
    • And more...

    Special Guest: EJ Dickson.

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    Episode 110: Falun Gong With Guest Ben Hurley Jul 09, 2019
    Show notes

    In this episode, Ben Hurley unmasks the Falun Gong and explains why it is so appealing to so many.

    We discuss:

    • How a walk in the park set him on his journey
    • What the feeling of meditation is like for him
    • What the Falun Gong believe
    • What kind of leader Li Hongzhi was
    • How Shen Yun is the pretty face for Falun Gong
    • What happens when Shen Yun rolls into town
    • And more

    Special Guest: Ben Hurley.

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    Episode 109: FLDS with Guests Leona Bateman and Briell Decker Blanchart Jul 02, 2019
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    Leona Bateman, founder of the Creekers Foundation, and Briell Decker Blanchart, board member of the Short Creek Dream Center join me to discuss their lives in and out of FLDS, and how they're helping others transition out.

    In this episode, we discuss:

    • What courtship training is like
    • How marriages in FLDS are arranged
    • How questioning couples discuss their doubts with each other
    • What happens when you get engaged to Warren Jeffs
    • How people escape
    • What life is like after you leave the FLDS
    • And more...

    Special Guests: Briell Decker Blanchart and Leona Bateman.

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    Episode 108: FLDS with Guest Brenda Nicholson Jun 25, 2019
    Show notes

    Brenda Nicholson grew up in FLDS under Rulon Jeffs and eventually under the rule of Warren Jeffs.

    While there are many shows about FLDS, Brenda gives us her unique story and insights into the inner workings of the FLDS and how she got out.

    In this episode, we discuss:

    • How her family got into the FLDS movement
    • What it was like being a student of Warren Jeffs
    • How marriage in FLDS works
    • How the rules were enforced
    • What happened when a new rule was introduced
    • And more...

    Special Guest: Brenda Nicholson.

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    Episode 107: Hillsong with Guests Lea Ceasrine, Rick Alan Ross, and Tanya Levin Jun 18, 2019
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    Guests Lea Ceasrine, Rick Alan Ross, and Tanya Levin join me to discuss Millennial Mega Church of the stars, Hillsong.

    In this episode, find out:

    • The church's strict Pentecostal origins
    • How a trip to America dramatically changed the focus of the church by its founders
    • How Hillsong solicits money
    • Where the money goes
    • What secrets are Hillsong leaders hoping will be contained within Australia's borders
    • And more...

    Special Guests: Lea Ceasrine, Rick Alan Ross, and Tanya Levin.

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    Episode 106: Large Group Awareness Training With Guests █████, ███████, & █████ Jun 11, 2019
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    Large Group Awareness Training is on the rise. We live in a time when decreasing religious adherence, a growing need for order and rules in one's life and a sense of complete entitlement have combined to make the allure of LGATs nearly irresistible.

    I spoke with 3 ex members of Large Group Awareness training students about their experiences. They explained:

    • Why anyone would tell a group of strangers about the worst day of their lives
    • How meditation, team building exercises and attack therapy combine to make people feel invincible
    • How these groups give students a sense of euphoria, then ask them to sign up for more courses
    • What happens as you progress through the ranks at LGATs
    • What the ultimate goal is for LGATs
    • And more...

    Special Guests: Alan Smithee, Jane Doe, and Marty Flipman.

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