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    Normal Not Normal

    James and Oliver Phelps (aka Fred and George Weasley) talk to a star-studded selection of friends, colleagues and personal heroes who stepped into the limelight at a young age, and find out what “normal” means to them. As identical twins who grew up on the Harry Potter film set as Fred and George Weasley, you could never say that the pair had a “normal” start to life. But recently, they’ve been thinking: what does “normal” mean anyway? Ready your ears for behind-the-scenes Potter revelations; outrageous rants; frank conversations about mental health; and even the odd, ‘did-you-know?’ Stabl production (Formerly the Double Trouble podcast)

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    Nat Tena Apr 23, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode we talk to our brilliant friend Nat Tena, who you might know better as Nymphadora Tonks.


    Nat landed her first film role aged sixteen, when she starred alongside Hugh Grant and Nicholas Hoult in About a Boy. Since then she’s been in many of our favourite films and TV shows, from Game of Thrones to The Mandalorian. When she’s not acting she’s singing and playing the accordion in gypsy ska band Molotov Jukebox.


    We find out how smoking round the back of the bike sheds landed Nat her first film role, why she thought Dumbledore was a country and what bad habit has her scaring fellow hotel guests.



    In 2020 Nat walked the 720km Camino De Santiago trail with her best friend to raise money for The Orchid Project, an amazing charity that is fighting to put an end to female genital cutting. To support the charity and find out more go to theorchidproject.org



    Nat’s ‘3am Questions’:

    Favourite book - The House of the Spirits by Isabel Allende

    Favourite song - The Tracks of My Tears by Smokey Robinson

    Favourite film - Strictly Ballroom



    We want to hear from you. If you have a brilliant 'Did You Know?' fact, a question for us, a jingle you’ve written or a voice note you want to share, get in touch. We’ll choose a few messages and include them in the audio version of every podcast. You can tweet us your message using the hashtag #normalnotnormal and #didyouknow or email us at normalnotnormalpodcast@gmail.com


    Remember, if you’re sending us a voice note or jingle and you’re under eighteen, please get permission from a parent or guardian.



    Follow us on Twitter:

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    Normal Not Normal is a Stabl production.

    Produced by Alice Homewood.

    YouTube version edited by Oliver and James Phelps.

    Music: 'Not Normal' by Sebastian Forslund and 'Bobby Swing' by The Bladwerk Band

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    Karamo Brown Apr 16, 2021
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    In this episode we talk to someone who makes us feel all warm and fuzzy inside. It’s Karamo Brown from Queer Eye!


    Karamo is the culture expert on the Netflix show Queer Eye, and helps guests tackle emotional issues that have been holding them back, while his co-hosts Bobby, Tan, Jonathan and Antoni make-over the guests’ homes, style and culinary skills.


    Karamo has a background in social work and moved into the spotlight in 2004 when he took part in MTV reality show The Real World: Philadelphia, becoming the first openly gay black man to be cast on a reality show.


    We find out how Karamo’s bad school behaviour made him who he is today, why he wants to redefine the term ‘coming out’ and what made him face his fears and stop drawing in his hairline.


    We know it can be difficult to be open about your sexuality when your community isn’t accepting of your LGBTQIA+ identity. If you need support, reach out.


    Visit stonewall.org.uk or thetrevorproject.org


    Karamo’s ‘3am Questions’:

    Favourite books - The Harry Potter series

    Favourite song - Let me Cater to You - Destiny’s Child

    Favourite film - Clueless or Forrest Gump



    We want to hear from you. If you have a brilliant 'Did You Know?' fact, a question for us, a jingle you’ve written or a voice note you want to share, get in touch. We’ll choose a few messages and include them in the audio version of every podcast. You can tweet us your message using the hashtag #normalnotnormal or email us at normalnotnormalpodcast@gmail.com


    Remember, if you’re sending us a voice note or jingle and you’re under eighteen, please get permission from a parent or guardian.



    Follow us on Twitter:

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    Normal Not Normal is a Stabl production.

    Produced by Alice Homewood.

    YouTube version edited by Oliver and James Phelps.

    Music: 'Not Normal' by Sebastian Forslund

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    James and Oliver Phelps Apr 09, 2021
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    This episode is a little bit different. This season we’ve been asking an amazing selection of guests what the word ‘normal’ means to them but in this episode we’re putting ourselves in the hot seats, and interviewing each other.

    Listen in to find out which one of us flashed airport security, what secrets we’re keeping from our parents and how we really feel about sharing a Wikipedia page.


    We’ll also be answering lots of your questions, so prepare to learn more about us than ever before.


    We want to hear from you. If you have a brilliant 'Did You Know?' fact, a question for us, a jingle you’ve written or a voice note you want to share, get in touch. We’ll choose a few messages and include them in the audio version of every podcast. You can tweet us your message using the hashtags #normalnotnormal and #didyouknow or email us at normalnotnormalpodcast@gmail.com


    Remember, if you’re sending us a voice note or jingle and you’re under eighteen, please get permission from a parent or guardian.



    Follow us on Twitter:

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    Normal Not Normal is a Stabl production.

    Produced by Alice Homewood.

    YouTube version edited by Oliver and James Phelps.

    Music: 'Not Normal' by Sebastian Forslund

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    Kelly Cates Apr 02, 2021
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    In this episode we talk to everyone’s favourite sports presenter, the brilliant Kelly Cates. Football is well and truly in Kelly’s DNA because her father Kenny Dalglish is a world-renowned football player and manager.

    Kelly tells us about ditching a maths degree to work at Sky Sports, becoming one of the UK’s first female sports presenters and shares what it’s like to broadcast live from one end of the kitchen table while her daughters eat pasta at the other end.

    In 2016 Kelly presented a moving documentary about the Hillsborough football stadium disaster. We recommend you have a listen to find out more and hear Kelly in action: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03sf7ps

    Kelly’s ‘3am Questions’:

    Favourite book - Rachel’s Holiday by Marian Keyes

    Favourite song - (Your Love Keeps Lifting Me) Higher and Higher by Jackie Wilson

    Favourite film - When Harry Met Sally and Bridesmaids

    We want to hear from you. If you have a brilliant 'Did You Know?' fact, a question for us, a jingle you’ve written or a voice note you want to share, get in touch. We’ll choose a few messages and include them in the audio version of every podcast. You can tweet us your message using the hashtag #normalnotnormal or email us at normalnotnormalpodcast@gmail.com

    Remember, if you’re sending us a voice note or jingle and you’re under eighteen, please get permission from a parent or guardian.

    Follow us on Twitter:

    @OliverPhelps

    @James_Phelps

    @KellyCates

    Normal Not Normal is a Stabl production.

    Produced by Alice Homewood.

    YouTube version edited by Oliver and James Phelps.

    Music: 'Not Normal' by Sebastian Forslund and 'Bobby Swing' by The Bladwerk Band

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    Alfred Enoch Mar 26, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode we talk to our friend and fellow Hogwarts alumnus Alfred Enoch.

    After playing Dean Thomas in the Harry Potter films Alfie went on to star in Shonda Rhimes’ hit show How to Get Away with Murder alongside the great Viola Davis.

    We reminisce about our time winding each other up on set, find out how Alfie got the part of Dean Thomas even though he didn’t audition and learn why he faked his accent for a whole year.

    Alfie’s ‘3am Questions’:

    Favourite book - The Thomas Cromwell Trilogy by Hilary Mantel

    Favourite song - Best of My Love by The Emotions

    Favourite film - Corpus Christi (2019)

    We want to hear from you. If you have a brilliant 'Did You Know?' fact, a question for us, a jingle you’ve written or a voice note you want to share, get in touch. We’ll choose a few messages and include them in the audio version of every podcast. You can tweet us your message using the hashtag #normalnotnormal or email us at normalnotnormalpodcast@gmail.com

    Remember, if you’re sending us a voice note or jingle and you’re under eighteen, please get permission from a parent or guardian.

    Follow us on Twitter:

    @OliverPhelps

    @James_Phelps

    Normal Not Normal is a Stabl production.

    Produced by Alice Homewood.

    YouTube version edited by Oliver and James Phelps.

    Music: 'Not Normal' by Sebastian Forslund and 'Bobby Swing' by The Bladwerk Band

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    Matt Hampson Mar 19, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode we talk to former rugby player and charity founder Matt Hampson.


    At 21, Matt was a rising rugby star with a glittering future ahead of him. All that changed in March 2005 when a catastrophic training accident ended his career and turned his life upside down.


    Now paralysed from the neck down, Matt has to use a ventilator twenty four hours a day, but he doesn't let that stop him living his best life.


    We chat to Matt about the accident, learn what made him a 'nightmare child' and find out how Matt pulls the sympathy card to get the last chocolate bar.


    In 2011 Matt founded the Matt Hampson Foundation, a charity which gives life-changing support to those with debilitating disabilities. In 2018 the charity opened the Get Busy Living Centre, a rehabilitation clinic where people can access physiotherapy and connect with others who have similar stories.


    To find out more and donate to Matt's charity, go to www.matthampsonfoundation.org



    Sponsors:

    We’d like to thank our sponsors Yamaha for supporting the podcast. To find out more about the Yamaha E700A headphones go to yamahamusiclondon.com/E700A

    Matt’s 3am questions:

    Favourite Book – Rainbow Warrior by Francois Pienaar

    Favourite Film – The Shawshank Redemption

    Favourite Song – Live Forever by Oasis

    We want to hear from you. If you have a brilliant 'Did You Know?' fact, a question for us, a jingle you’ve written or a voice note you want to share, get in touch. We’ll choose a few messages and include them in the audio version of every podcast. You can tweet us your message using the hashtag #normalnotnormal or email us at normalnotnormalpodcast@gmail.com

    Remember, if you’re sending us a voice note or jingle and you’re under eighteen, please get permission from a parent or guardian.

    Follow us on Twitter:

    @OliverPhelps

    @James_Phelps

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    Normal Not Normal is a Stabl production.

    Produced by Alice Homewood.

    YouTube version edited by Oliver and James Phelps.

    Music: 'Not Normal' by Sebastian Forslund, 'Let Go' by Conditional and 'Bobby Swing' by The Bladwerk Band

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    Paula DuPré Pesmen Mar 12, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode we talk to our friend (and ex-boss) Paula DuPré Pesmen. As Associate Producer on the Harry Potter films Paula watched us grow up over the years and has plenty of behind-the-scenes tea to spill.

    We reminisce about our first terrifying meeting, hear about a surprise Paul McCartney meeting at Abbey Road Studios and find out why we’ll always be ‘kids’ in Paula’s eyes.

    During the filming of the Potter films, Paula’s world was turned upside down by family illness. It was this that inspired her to start the incredible charity There With Care, which supports families coping with critical illness.

    Paula also supports The Liv Project, which is working to turn the tide on youth suicide. In this episode we play ‘The Game That Goes There’, a game developed by the project to encourage deeper conversations. To get your copy and support the charity, go to shopthelivproject.com

    If you’re finding life difficult, don’t suffer in silence. Contact the Suicide Prevention Hotline or The Samaritans for support.

    Sponsors:

    We’d like to thank our sponsors Yamaha for supporting the podcast. To find out more about the Yamaha E700A headphones go to yamahamusiclondon.com/E700A

    Paula’s ‘3am Questions’:

    Favourite book - Becoming by Michelle Obama

    Favourite album - Songs in The Key of Life by Stevie Wonder

    Favourite film - Casablanca

    We want to hear from you. If you have a brilliant 'Did You Know?' fact, a question for us, a jingle you’ve written or a voice note you want to share, get in touch. We’ll choose a few messages and include them in the audio version of every podcast. You can tweet us your message using the hashtag #normalnotnormal or email us at normalnotnormalpodcast@gmail.com

    Remember, if you’re sending us a voice note or jingle and you’re under eighteen, please get permission from a parent or guardian.

    Follow us on Twitter:

    @OliverPhelps

    @James_Phelps

    @pauladupre

    Normal Not Normal is a Stabl production.

    Produced by Alice Homewood.

    YouTube version edited by Oliver and James Phelps.

    Music: 'Not Normal' by Sebastian Forslund, 'Let Go' by Conditional and 'Bobby Swing' by The Bladwerk Band

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices


    Nadiya Hussain Mar 05, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode we talk to TV chef and author Nadiya Hussain MBE, winner of the UK’s Great British Bake Off 2015.


    Nadiya became a national treasure overnight when her acceptance speech on the final of the Bake Off touched hearts all across the country:


    'I'm never gonna put boundaries on myself ever again. I’m never gonna say I can’t do it. I’m never gonna say ‘maybe’. I’m never gonna say, ‘I don’t think I can.’ I can and I will.'


    Since then, Nadiya has made several BBC TV series that have been released on Netflix, making her a household name all over the world. She has also written three cookbooks, a novel, a memoir and a children’s book about dealing with anxiety, something which is close to her heart.


    In this episode Nadiya opens up about her anxiety ‘monster’, falling in love with baking in a no-bake home and how her parents keep her feet well and truly on the ground.


    We’ll also be asking Nadiya the question on everyone’s mind: does pineapple belong on a pizza?

    You can find out more about Nadiya’s latest projects here.


    Sponsors:

    We’d like to thank our sponsors Yamaha for supporting the podcast. To find out more about the Yamaha E700A headphones go to yamahamusiclondon.com/E700A



    Nadiya’s ‘3am Questions’:

    Favourite book - The Lovely Bones by Alice Sebold

    Favourite song - Accidentally in Love by Counting Crows

    Favourite film - Gladiator and Fight Club


    We want to hear from you. If you have a brilliant 'Did You Know?' fact, a question for us, a jingle you’ve written or a voice note you want to share, get in touch. We’ll choose a few messages and include them in the audio version of every podcast. You can tweet us your message using the hashtag #normalnotnormal or email us at normalnotnormalpodcast@gmail.com

    Remember, if you’re sending us a voice note or jingle and you’re under eighteen, please get permission from a parent or guardian.


    Follow us on Twitter:

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    @James_Phelps

    @BegumNadiya


    Normal Not Normal is a Stabl production.

    Produced by Alice Homewood.

    YouTube version edited by Oliver and James Phelps.

    Music: 'Not Normal' by Sebastian Forslund, 'At Last' by Martin Landh and 'Bobby Swing' by The Bladwerk Band

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    James Haskell Feb 26, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode we talk to Harry Potter fan James Haskell. Oh, and he’s also an England rugby star, reality TV contestant and podcast host.

    James Haskell had a glittering rugby career before retiring from the game in 2019, but whether you’re into rugby or not James is well worth your attention.

    In this episode we find out what really happened behind the scenes of that controversial season of the UK’s reality TV show ‘I’m a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here’, how seeing a sports psychologist changed the way James checks in on his friends’ mental health and why he’s training to be a digger driver at the age of 35.

    James also shares what happened when he chose the Potter films for his Mastermind quiz subject, why the films remind him of his time at boarding school and what makes wizards and witches so darn cool.

    James hosts three brilliant podcasts: What a Flanker, Couples Quarantine with his wife Chloe Madeley and The Good the Bad and the Rugby alongside Mike Tindall and Alex Payne.

    James’ ‘3am Questions’:

    Favourite book - The Harry Potter series and Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell by Susanna Clarke

    Favourite song - Tiny Dancer by Elton John

    Favourite film - Ronin starring Robert De Niro


    Our Sponsors:

    We want to thank this episode's sponsors Beer52 and Yamaha for their support. Go to Beer52.com/normal and pay the postage costs of just £5.95 to get eight free craft beers, a snack and a magazine. To check out the brilliant Yamaha E700A headphones go to yamahamusiclondon.com/E700A

    We want to hear from you. If you have a brilliant 'Did You Know?' fact, a question for us, a jingle you’ve written or a voice note you want to share, get in touch! We’ll choose a few messages and include them in the audio version of the podcast every episode. You can tweet us your message using the hashtags #normalnotnormal and #didyouknow or email us at normalnotnormalpodcast@gmail.com

    Remember, if you’re sending us a voice note or jingle and you’re under eighteen, please get permission from your parents or guardian.

    Follow us on Twitter:

    @OliverPhelps

    @James_Phelps

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    Normal Not Normal is a Stabl production.

    Produced by Alice Homewood.

    YouTube version edited by James and Oliver Phelps.

    Music: 'Not Normal' by Sebastian Forslund, 'Bobby Swing' by The Bladwerk Band and ‘Dancing with the Devil’ by Bonkers Beat Club.

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    Evanna Lynch part two Feb 19, 2021
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    This episode is part two of our conversation with our friend Evanna Lynch, who played Luna Lovegood in the Harry Potter films.

    In this episode things get personal. We get honest about going to therapy, having our identities stolen online and how the Potter films changed our lives.

    On a lighter note, we also talk about Evanna’s time on the USA’s Dancing with the Stars, our favourite Potter moments and our dream circus skills.

    If you’re struggling with your mental health, please know you’re not alone. We hear you. Take a look at the Samaritans or Mind websites and reach out to family and friends. Help is out there.

    We want to hear from you. If you have a brilliant 'Did You Know?' fact, a question for us, a jingle you’ve written or a voice note you want to share, get in touch. We’ll choose a few messages and include them in the audio version of every podcast. You can tweet us your message using the hashtags #normalnotnormal and #didyouknow or email us at normalnotnormalpodcast@gmail.com

    Remember, if you’re sending us a voice note or jingle and you’re under eighteen, please get permission from a parent or guardian.

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    Normal Not Normal is a Stabl production.

    Produced by Alice Homewood.

    YouTube version edited by Oliver and James Phelps.

    Music: 'Not Normal' by Sebastian Forslund and 'Bobby Swing' by The Bladwerk Band


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