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Scandal, Innovation, and Rifles: The True Story Behind the Krag-Jørgensen May 08, 2025

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In this deep-dive episode of the No Lowballers Podcast, hosts Logan Metesh of High Caliber History and Allen Forkner of GunBroker.com welcome researcher Justin Baird for a fascinating look at one of the most underrated rifles in U.S. history—the Krag-Jørgensen—and the two men who made it possible.

More than just another bolt-action military rifle, the Krag-Jørgensen carries a story rooted in international innovation, unexpected design breakthroughs, and a friendship forged in engineering. From Ole Krag’s privileged upbringing and passion for machinery to Erik Jørgensen’s humble beginnings on a Norwegian farm, we explore how two very different men came together to revolutionize magazine-fed firearms in the late 19th century.

Justin walks us through their backgrounds, their collaboration, and how their rifle went on to be adopted not just by Denmark and Norway, but also by the United States—becoming America’s first smokeless powder service rifle. The episode also unpacks how myths around Krag "stealing" credit from Jørgensen persist to this day, despite their genuine partnership.

Key Topics Discussed:

The Origins of Ole Krag and Erik Jørgensen:
Learn how one was the son of a prominent clergyman and the other the child of a rural blacksmith—and how their paths converged at Kongsberg’s state arsenal in Norway.

Innovation Through Cooperation:
Justin explains how Krag’s early designs and Jørgensen’s mechanical skill merged to create a modular magazine system that would reshape military arms trials across Europe and the U.S.

The Capsule Magazine That Changed Everything:
Why Krag’s “half capsule” design appealed to the Danish military, how it evolved, and how its quirks shaped the future of combat shooting strategies.

Adoption in America:
How U.S. Army trials led to the adoption of the Krag-Jørgensen, the tailored changes that made it uniquely American, and why it was eventually phased out in favor of the 1903 Springfield.

The Krag-Jørgensen Company’s Rise—and Fall:
The lucrative U.S. contract that kept the company alive, the Sultan of Turkey’s surprise offer, and how it all came crashing down when both money and momentum ran out.

Tragedy and Legacy:
The untimely death of Erik Jørgensen and the public speculation that followed. Justin shares how Krag spent the rest of his life defending Jørgensen’s role in their joint success.

Guest:
Justin Baird – Researcher and Krag-Jørgensen historian

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Timney Triggers, Lever Guns, and the Rise of DIY Accuracy May 01, 2025

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In this on-the-road episode of the No Lowballers Podcast, hosts Logan Metesh of High Caliber History and Allen Forkner of GunBroker.com travel to Louisiana for LeverFest and set up shop at the Gun Talk Studios. They’re joined by Chris Ellis, Vice President of Marketing at Timney Triggers, for a wide-ranging conversation about the evolution of aftermarket triggers, the legacy of Timney, and why accuracy matters more than ever.

Chris takes us back to the founding of Timney Triggers in 1946 and explains how the company helped transform old surplus service rifles into capable hunting firearms through affordable, drop-in trigger upgrades. From humble beginnings improving Mausers and Springfields to becoming the go-to name in precision triggers for ARs, shotguns, lever guns, and more, Timney’s journey mirrors the rise of America’s DIY gun culture.

With LeverFest as the backdrop, the group also discusses the growing popularity of tactical lever guns, how user feedback drives Timney’s product development, and what it means to bring consistency and customization to every platform—from Glocks to Mosins.

Key Topics Discussed:

The Origin of Timney Triggers:Chris walks through the early post-WWII days when returning GIs wanted to make their surplus rifles accurate enough for deer season—and how Timney delivered with the first mass-market drop-in trigger.

Drop-In Triggers and Accessibility:No gunsmith? No problem. Learn how Timney’s plug-and-play approach opened up custom triggers to the average shooter and laid the groundwork for today’s home-built precision rifles.

The Rise of the AR and the Modern Era:Chris explains how the early 2000s AR boom pushed Timney to innovate again with cassette-style drop-in AR triggers, expanding their reach beyond bolt guns and into every major firearm platform.

Tactical Lever Guns and the Modern Market:From Marlin’s Dark Series to Smith & Wesson’s new stealth builds, lever guns are getting the modern treatment—and Timney is right in the middle of the movement with upgraded triggers designed for fast-paced precision.

Listening to the Shooter Community:Whether it’s 10/22s, Glocks, shotguns, or even Mosin-Nagants, Timney’s catalog of triggers has been shaped by shooter feedback. If it’s got a trigger, they’re looking at it.

On-the-Range Comparisons:At LeverFest, Logan and Allen shoot both factory and Timney-equipped lever guns side-by-side, revealing how much of a difference a great trigger can make in real time.

Leverfest and the Resurgence of Lever Action Rifles Apr 24, 2025

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In this exciting episode of the No Lowballers podcast, Logan Metesh from High Caliber History is joined by Allen Forkner of GunBroker and special guests Ryan Gresham from Gun Talk and legendary gun writer Ron Spomer at Leverfest. Tune in as the team dives deep into the revival of lever action rifles and the rising popularity of these iconic guns, particularly among younger enthusiasts. From historical insights to firsthand experiences at the event, this episode is packed with exciting gun talk and expert opinions.

Key Topics Covered:

Leverfest Highlights:
Leverfest is a celebration of all things lever action, and the event did not disappoint. Logan, Allen, Ryan, and Ron give a full recap of their time in Louisiana at the event, including some unforgettable moments testing the latest in lever action rifles.
The Resurgence of Lever Guns:
Ryan Gresham and Ron Spomer share their perspectives on the renewed interest in lever guns, a shift that has seen everything from old classics to modern tactical models gaining popularity. This resurgence isn’t just about nostalgia; it’s about bringing these guns into the 21st century with improved technology and exciting new features.
Lever Gun Innovations:
From suppressed .45-70 to compact .22 lever actions, the event showcased the impressive versatility of lever guns. The podcast highlights some standout models from brands like Marlin, Savage, and Smith & Wesson, which are breathing new life into the lever action rifle market.
Shooting Challenges at Leverfest:
The team took part in some thrilling challenges, including shooting plate racks at 100 yards and splitting cards with bullets. The excitement and skill required to master these challenges are discussed in detail, showing why lever guns are not just for collectors—they’re fun to shoot and offer a real challenge for enthusiasts.
The Tacticool Lever Guns:
A look at how brands are adding modern touches to classic lever guns. From the Marlin Dark series to the Henry PMAG-fed models, we explore the trend of making lever guns more functional for modern users without losing their vintage charm.
A Big Family of Gun Manufacturers:
The podcast captures the camaraderie at Leverfest, where industry leaders like Ruger, Marlin, and Smith & Wesson came together, sharing ideas, discussing future innovations, and celebrating the shared passion for firearms.

Listener Takeaways:

Why Lever Guns Are More Than Just for Collectors:
The panel discusses how lever guns offer something for everyone—from casual plinkers to serious hunters and tactical enthusiasts. Whether you're using it for home defense or bear protection, the lever action rifle can be adapted for any need.
Future of the Lever Action Rifle:
What’s next for the lever action rifle? We explore the potential future innovations in this category, from new calibers to enhanced optics and accessories that could transform these guns even further.

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Exploring the Guns of Lexington and Concord: 250 Years of Insights from Historian Joel Bohy Apr 17, 2025

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In this special episode of the No Lowballers Podcast, hosts Logan Metesh of High Caliber History and Allen Forkner of GunBroker are joined by historian Joel Bohy to commemorate the 250th anniversary of the Lexington and Concord battles, the spark of the American Revolution.

Joel, who previously discussed his book Bullet Strikes with us, returns to dive deeper into the firearms, tactics, and key moments that shaped the first battle of the Revolution. From the iconic "shot heard around the world" to the intricacies of 18th-century muskets, this conversation provides insight into the arms and accouterments of the colonial militias and the British forces that day.

Key Topics Discussed:

The Arms of Lexington and Concord:
Joel explains the two types of muskets used by British forces, the Pattern 1769 Shortland and the Pattern 1756 Longland, and their effects on battlefield accuracy. He highlights the differences in musket bores, the variability in ammunition, and the role of civilian arms in the conflict.
The Misconception of Revolutionary War Firearms:
Many people assume all Revolutionary War guns were inaccurate and ineffective, but Joel sheds light on how various firearms, including the civilian hunting guns carried by militias, performed better than commonly thought.
Franken-Guns and Local Gunsmiths:
The importance of local gunsmiths in assembling makeshift "Franken-guns" is discussed, along with the role of these guns in the militia’s arsenal during the revolution. The fascinating mix of parts and craftsmanship that went into these firearms illustrates the resourcefulness of early Americans.
The British and Colonial Ammunition:
Discussion about the challenges of ammunition fitting, such as mismatched musket balls and bore sizes, reveals some of the real difficulties faced by soldiers trying to hit their targets accurately on the battlefield.
The 250th Anniversary of April 19, 1775:
Joel and the hosts reflect on the historical significance of this pivotal day, how it influenced the rest of the Revolutionary War, and why the events at Lexington and Concord remain important today.
Historic Firearms and Archaeological Insights:
Joel shares his findings from archaeological digs, including musket balls and artifacts found in local ponds, and discusses the ongoing research into the weapons of the time.
The Global Impact of April 19, 1775:
The episode ends on a philosophical note, reflecting on how the battle's legacy influenced not only America but the rest of the world’s pursuit of freedom.

Guest:

Joel Bohy, Historian and Author of Bullet Strikes: The First Day of the American Revolution.

Where to Find Joel’s Book:

Check out Joel’s new book Bullet Strikes for more in-depth research and analysis of the pivotal events of April 19, 1775.

Previous Episodes with Joel Bohy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYHBDMRzfrM&t=5s

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Precision Legacy: Nearly 120 Years of Optical Excellence with Leupold’s Tim Lesser Apr 03, 2025

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On this precise, crystal-clear episode of the No Lowballers podcast, host Logan Metesh of High Caliber History and Allen Forkner of GunBroker are joined by Tim Lesser, Vice President of Product Development and Marketing at Leupold, a company with a storied history of innovation and excellence in optics. For nearly 120 years, Leupold has set the standard in precision optics, starting from humble beginnings in 1907 to becoming a leader in the field. Join us as Tim shares fascinating insights into Leupold's evolution, the impact of family ownership on their business practices, and the cutting-edge advancements that continue to define their legacy.

Episode Highlights

Leupold's Origins and Evolution
Discussion on Leupold’s transition from a survey equipment company in 1907 to a renowned optics and scopes company.
Insights into the early challenges and innovations, including the pivotal hunting incident that led to the creation of fog-proof scopes using nitrogen purging.
Innovation in Optics
Tim discusses the importance of clear and precise optics, tracing back to their survey equipment roots.
Exploration of Leupold's commitment to quality and innovation, illustrated by their introduction of the waterproof "Plainsman" scope in 1949.
Impact of Family Ownership
Examination of how family ownership has influenced Leupold's business practices and commitment to long-term quality.
Stories of multi-generational employees and the company's culture that values doing the right thing for sustainable success.
Technological Advancements and Industry Standards
Introduction of the duplex reticle in 1962, its design benefits, and its lasting popularity.
Discussion on the rigorous testing procedures that ensure the reliability and durability of Leupold products in the most demanding conditions.
Military Contributions and Modern Innovations
Overview of Leupold's long-standing relationship with the military, providing optics that withstand extreme conditions.
Tim shares recent advancements, such as the VX6 HD Gen 2, which integrates competition-grade features into hunting optics.
Leupold's Commitment to Quality and Customer Service
The iconic gold ring on Leupold scopes as a symbol of quality and a lifetime guarantee.
Customer service stories that highlight Leupold's dedication to customer satisfaction and maintaining the integrity of their products through generations.

Are you a Leupold owner? If so, what are your favorite riflescopes? Have you ever had to use Leupold’s customer service? Share your thoughts in the comments! Be sure to tune in every Thursday when new shows are released on all your favorite podcast platforms.

10 Parts Too Many: How a Simple Gun Build Could Break Federal Law Mar 27, 2025

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In this episode of The No Lowballers Podcast, Logan Metesh of High Caliber History and Allen Forkner of GunBroker dive headfirst into the deep, murky waters of U.S. gun importation law—specifically the infamous 922(r) and its lesser-known sibling 925(d)(3). These regulations are chock-full of arbitrary part counts, arcane restrictions, and enough bureaucratic nonsense to make anyone's head spin.

You’ll hear how imported parts can turn your favorite rifle into a potential ATF nightmare, why “10” is the government’s favorite magic number, and how companies have had to play the compliance game just to get firearms into the hands of U.S. customers.

Topics Covered:

What is 922(r) and how does it affect imported rifles and shotguns?
The infamous list of 20 parts—and why only 10 of them can be foreign-made
Real-world challenges building AKs from parts kits
Why a U.S.-made floor plate counts separately from a mag body and follower
How 925(d)(3) affects pistols and the ATF’s point system for importation
The bizarre saga of the Glock 25, 28, and Taurus revolvers with “bonus barrels”
Government logic: “sporting purposes” and the assault on modern competitive shooting
Why foreign manufacturers like Glock, SIG, and HK started making guns in the U.S.
Stories from the field: zeroing red dots with duct tape and tactical assault putty™

Key Takeaways:

922(r) only applies to rifles and shotguns, not handguns.
The ATF’s point system under 925(d)(3) has led to bizarre modifications just to pass import rules.
Most gun laws—especially older ones—are often out of date and not based on real-world safety concerns.
Gun owners remain largely law-abiding, but staying compliant can be absurdly complicated.
Education is key: Understanding these laws empowers the community and helps counter misinformation.

So, if you’ve got a buddy building an AK or tinkering with a parts kit—send them this episode!
Let’s help more people navigate the insanity of 922(r) and 925(d)(3).

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Ammunition Misfires: Flops and Oddities Mar 20, 2025

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Host Logan Metesh of High Caliber History and Allen Forkner from GunBroker delve into the history of ammunition, focusing on less-known and commercially unsuccessful rounds. They dig into some of the good ideas on paper that flopped in the field, and other ideas that worked but were torpedoed by bad marketing.

Rocketball Ammunition:
Discussion of Walter Hunt's invention of Rocketball ammo in 1848, a caseless ammunition concept ahead of its time.
Overview of its mechanics and reasons for commercial failure.
The Volcanic Lever Action Pistol:
Connection between Rocketball ammo and its use in the Smith & Wesson Volcanic lever action pistol.
Examination of the pistol's design and its impact on the success of Rocketball.
Davy Crockett Atomic Watermelon:
A humorous aside about nuclear-powered concepts in weaponry during the Cold War era.
David Dardick's Trounds:
Exploration of the unique tround (triangular round) and its application in the Dardick open chamber revolver, a magazine-fed revolver design.
The Gyrojet:
Discussion on the Gyrojet firearms that fired rocket-propelled projectiles, highlighting the innovative yet flawed technology.
Daisy VL Caseless Ammo:
Insights into Daisy's attempt at producing a .22 caliber caseless ammunition and the legal and technical challenges it faced.
Extreme Shock "Fang Face" Ammo:
Analysis of the marketing failures and product issues with Extreme Shock's frangible bullets designed for air marshal service.
Remington EtronX:
Review of Remington's electronic ignition system in firearms and its lack of success in the market.

What are some of the failed ammunition inventions we may have forgot? Did you own one of these flops? Are there any of these fails that you’d like to see revived?

Changing Perceptions of Firearms in Media and Society Mar 13, 2025

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In this engaging, Host Logan Metesh of High Caliber History and Allen Forkner of GunBroker talk about a recent report that finds the public perception of hunting and sport shooting are dwindling as violent crime rates climb. Joined by repeat guest Ryan Gresham from Gun Talk Media, they dissect a recent survey on public attitudes towards gun owners and explore ways to positively influence public opinion through responsible messaging and community involvement.

Key Topics Covered:

Survey Analysis:
Insights from a recent survey by the Outdoor Stewards of Conservation Foundation, highlighting changing perceptions towards firearms due to increasing concerns about violence.
Media Influence:
Discussion on the portrayal of firearms in media and pop culture, historical context provided by Ryan on how firearms were viewed more positively in the past.
Examination of how mainstream media narratives and terminology, like 'gun violence' and 'shooter', impact public perceptions and understanding.
Positive Engagement:
Strategies for firearms enthusiasts to engage non-shooters and influence perceptions positively.
Ryan shares personal anecdotes and suggests how introducing people to shooting sports can help demystify firearms and encourage responsible ownership.
Celebrity Influence:
Debate on the role of celebrities in shaping firearms perceptions, with examples of prominent figures who are also gun owners.
Call to Action:
Encouragement for listeners to invite friends to shooting ranges or hunting trips as a way to educate and share the positive aspects of the firearms community.

For more from Ryan and the Gun Talk family:

What are some of the positive portrayals of hunters and firearms owners in media that you remember? What are some of the things that you think we can do to improve the public’s opinion of firearms? Share your thoughts in the comments!

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The Pen and the Pistol: The Influence of Gun Writers Mar 06, 2025

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Logan Metesh of High Caliber History and Allen Forkner of GunBroker introduce Dwight Van Brunt from Sportsman’s Legacy to discuss the significant impact of gun writers on firearm trends and industry standards. Have you ever wondered what a top gun writer has in his or her personal collection? Today, we discuss that very thing as well as ways that you can add these special firearms to your own collection.

Main Topics Discussed:

Legacy of Iconic Gun Writers:

The hosts and Dwight discuss the historical influence of legendary gun writers like Jack O'Connor, Elmer Keith, and others who shaped firearm preferences through their published works in major magazines.

Evolution of Media Influence:

Examination of how the role of gun writers has evolved from print to digital, impacting how firearms are reviewed and perceived in the modern era.
Dwight shares anecdotes from past experiences at SHOT Show Media Days, illustrating the shift from a few influential writers to a crowded field of digital content creators.

Challenges of Modern Gun Reviewing:

The conversation turns to the difficulties of maintaining integrity and accuracy in firearm reviews amidst the rise of digital platforms and influencer marketing.

Impact of Prototypes and Media Samples on Brand Perception:

Discussion on how prototype firearms are handled in the industry, including their distribution to writers for feedback and the potential mishaps that can occur if prototypes do not perform as expected.

Closing Thoughts:

Dwight, Logan, and Allen reflect on the enduring impact of gun writers in shaping firearm culture and consumer choices, noting the necessity of adapting to new media landscapes while maintaining journalistic integrity.

Links and Resources:

See all the fine products available from Sportsman’s Legacy: https://www.gunbroker.com/all/search?sort=13&includesellers=86817&pagesize=48

Call to Action:

Who were some of your favorite gun writers? Who are your favorites today? Let us know in the comments.
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Conservation Through the Ages: Connecting History, Hunting, and Today’s Efforts Feb 27, 2025

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Main Topics Discussed:

The Role of HATS in Conservation:
History and Evolution of Conservation Laws:
Modern Conservation Challenges and Initiatives:
Cultural and Economic Impact of Hunting:

Closing Thoughts:

Logan and Allen reflect on the significant contributions of hunters and shooters to conservation and the importance of continued education and advocacy in this area.

Links and Resources:

Outdoor Stewards of Conservation Foundation

Connecting With Conservation podcast

Outdoor Stewards on Instagram

Call to Action:

Encourage listeners to engage in local conservation efforts and educate others about the vital role of hunters and anglers in supporting wildlife and habitat conservation.

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