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    Night Owls

    Joe Klein and John Ellis on what’s happening and what happens next. Joe Klein is the author of seven books and “Sanity Clause,” a Substack newsletter. John Ellis is the founder and editor of two Substack newsletters — News Items and Political News Items. The two friends have covered American politics for a combined 95 years.

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    Episode 26 Jun 11, 2024
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    John and Joe discuss the concern of Joe Biden's age. Plus, they talk about Biden's investigation of monopolistic tech companies; new demographic data that suggests too many boys are sitting at their parents' houses; and the results of the Mexican election.


    Episode 25 (with Daniel Finkelstein) Jun 03, 2024
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    Joe Klein chats with an old friend, member of the House of Lords Daniel Finkelstein, about the complicated legacy of Brexit, the state of populism, and his new book Two Roads Home.


    Episode 24 (with epidemiologist Katelyn Jetelina) May 29, 2024
    Show notes Q. What do you do when you need a public health weather report? A. You talk to Katelyn Jetelina. That's what we did and this podcast is the result.

    Episode 23 (with Cade Metz) May 20, 2024
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    Our interview with New York Times tech correspondant Cade Metz, author of 'Genius Makers: The Mavericks Who Brought AI to Google, Facebook, and the World.' We talk all things AI.


    Episode 22 May 12, 2024
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    Joe praises Tom Friedman and ponders RFK Jr. John is all worked up about 7 EV chargers. Biology is being transformed by Google DeepMind. And more.


    Episode 21 May 05, 2024
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    There is only one Jim Cramer. We talked to him about everything.


    Episode 20 Apr 28, 2024
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    Joe and John talk to veteran Democratic Party campaign manager Joe Trippi about why Trump might lose and what Biden has to do to beat him.


    Episode 19 Apr 21, 2024
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    Joe and John talk to Mark Tercek about the changing climate and the challenges it presents. Mark is well-qualified to discuss the "issue," having served as CEO of the Nature Conservancy for over a decade. It's a very informative discussion, entirely due to Mark's encyclopedic knowledge of the subject matter. Listen and learn. You'll learn a lot.


    Episode 18 Apr 14, 2024
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    John and Joe consider the Arizona Supreme Court decision on abortion. Joe unpacks five potential threats to President Biden this fall. Plus, a discussion of NPR's integrity in light of a bombshell essay about its inherent bias.


    Episode 17 Apr 07, 2024
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    Joe and John interview Jane Perlez, former New York Times Beijing bureau chief, about her upcoming 8-part podcast series: "Face-Off, The U.S. vs. China." Once friends, now foes, the question is: what happens next?


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