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    Night Owls

    Joe Klein and John Ellis on what’s happening and what happens next. Joe Klein is the author of seven books and “Sanity Clause,” a Substack newsletter. John Ellis is the founder and editor of two Substack newsletters — News Items and Political News Items. The two friends have covered American politics for a combined 95 years.

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    Night Owls Episode 57 Feb 22, 2025
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    A world in disarray


    Episode 56 (with Al From) Feb 09, 2025
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    Al From, the founder of the Democratic Leadership Council, talks about how to rebuild the Democratic Party—and how he did it last time.


    Episode 55 Jan 25, 2025
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    Inauguration Week in Review! Joe and John on the ascendant Trump, the triumph of the Tech Bros, Dems in disarray, the Lars Anderson Bridge and the whereabouts of Philip K. Howard.


    Episode 54 (with Susan Mulcahy) Jan 17, 2025
    Show notes Nobody knows the New York Post like Susan Mulcahy. She wrote the book. She talked about it with us.

    Episode 53 (with David Barboza Part 4) Jan 09, 2025
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    Episode Four: A dream assignment: David moves to Shanghai and begins covering China. He goes from "Sock City" to Apple, to the extraordinary changes in China's economy, politics and culture. The final episode covers everything from Wuhan to Taiwan, fentanyl to semiconductors, quantum computing to cyberhacking, to Xi's political standing and how much (and how many of) China's most successful people dislike and distrust Xi.


    Episode 52 (with David Barboza Part 3) Jan 09, 2025
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    Episode Three: The not-a-partnership partnership of one of the world's greatest entrepreneurs and one of the world's richest men is a case study in modern China. David describes the "partnership" that became the subject of an extraordinary report co-produced by The New York Times and David's news magazine, The Wire China.


    Episode 51 (with David Barboza Part 2) Jan 08, 2025
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    Episode Two: We begin our conversation with David about China and whether the "Thucydides Trap" can be avoided.


    Episode 50 (with David Barboza Part 1) Jan 08, 2025
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    Episode One: David Barboza, former Shanghai Bureau Chief for The New York Times, is building a new kind of media company. Call it Bloomberg for China.


    Episode 49 (with Deb Roy) Dec 28, 2024
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    In the final episode of our Cortico trilogy, we talked with the company's founder and CEO, Deb Roy, about the future of "building civic muscle" and his roadmap for a national Cortico network.


    Episode 48 (with Deb Roy and Alex Kelly Berman) Dec 21, 2024
    Show notes Part two of our conversations with the senior management of Cortico, the platform for "deeper conversations". Featuring Deb Roy and Alex Kelly Berman.

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