Next Up with Grant Skeldon

4 Ways to Fight for Females and Against Feminism | Lisa Bevere Feb 21, 2025

Join us for a powerful conversation with NextUp host Grant Skeldon and New York Times bestselling author, podcaster, and speaker Lisa Bevere. Grant and Lisa dig into leadership, faith, and what it means to flourish in today's world. Lisa shares insights on raising the next generation, highlighting the role of women in culture and the need for clear, courageous conversations. This discussion inspires young adults to embrace their unique identities, explore mentorship, and take bold steps in their personal and collective journeys.

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4 Realities Nobody Tells You About Waiting Until Marriage | Rorisang Thandekiso Feb 04, 2025

In this episode, Grant Skeldon sits down with Rorisang (Rori) Thandekiso, a global Christian leader who is one of South Africa’s beloved personalities. Together they have insightful and heartfelt discussion about the realities of waiting until marriage. Grant and Rori delve into topics such as the challenges and joys of remaining pure, the importance of being upfront about personal convictions in relationships, and the societal pressures faced by both men and women. Rori shares her personal testimony, highlighting the significance of accountability, the distinction between righteousness and holiness, and the benefits that come from living a life of obedience to God. This conversation is for anyone navigating relationships and faith, whether you're committed to waiting for marriage or seeking to return to purity after past mistakes. Tune in and discover the strength in community, the power of honesty, and the key to a closer relationship with God. Resources

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4 Necessary Questions to Narrow Your Calling and Enjoy Your Career | Brad Lomenick Jan 25, 2025

In this episode of NextUp, Grant Skeldon sits down with author Brad Lomenick to unpack the journey of discovering your calling and aligning it with your career. They discuss the distinction between "calling" and "assignments," emphasizing that a calling provides direction and assignments refer to the roles and tasks we undertake along the way. This episode is filled with valuable insights for young professionals who feel stuck, leaders facing new challenges, or anyone searching for clarity in their career path. Tune in for inspiration on embracing your unique strengths, maintaining consistency, and engaging in environments that foster both spiritual and professional growth. Resources:

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5 Reasons to Do a Digital Fast | Darren Whitehead Dec 26, 2024

In this week's episode, Grant sits down with Darren Whitehead, Senior Pastor of Church of the City in Franklin, TN. They explore the transformative benefits of doing a digital fast. Darren talks about navigating a world increasingly dominated by screens and technology and how taking intentional breaks can lead to profound personal and spiritual renewal. He shares how he led his congregation through The Digital Fast and the effectiveness of taking collective action. Listen in as Grant and Darren confront the challenges of constant connectivity, the importance of reclaiming time for meaningful activities, and how disconnecting from technology can improve mental clarity, relationships, and spiritual growth. Resources:

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4 Ways to Not Let Pain Destroy the Best Parts of Who You Are | Davey Blackburn Dec 19, 2024

In this episode, Grant sits down with author Davey Blackburn to explore the complexities of trauma, healing, and faith. They dive into processing life's most challenging moments, with a focus on the profound impact of experiencing "sin done to us," as taught by John Mark Comer. Davey shares his deeply personal story of navigating unimaginable loss, recounting his raw experience of trauma and how he dealt with the immediate aftermath of disbelief and shock. Listen in as they reflects on God’s presence throughout Davey's journey and how he finds glimpses of divine protection and grace even in the midst of profound grief. If you're grappling with trauma or loss, you'll want to lean in to this episode. Resources:

Buy Davey's book "Nothing is Wasted"
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How to Prepare for the 4 Major Hurdles of Adoption | Kolby Knell Dec 04, 2024

In this week’s episode of Next Up, Grant explores the complexities of adoption with guest Kolby Knell, a singer, speaker, and mother dedicated to helping leaders navigate the challenges of parenting and adoption. Kolby outlines the four major hurdles of adoption and offers practical advice for preparing mentally and logistically for each stage. She addresses both the emotional and logistical aspects of the process, sharing valuable insights for those considering or currently on their adoption journey. Tune in as they discuss managing expectations, understanding the legal aspects, adapting to a child's needs, and the personal growth that comes from the adoption experience.

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4 Ways to Enhance Your Prayer Life Through Praying Scripture | Filmore Bouldes Nov 15, 2024

In this episode of NextUp, Grant Skeldon talks with Filmore Bouldes, the pastor of OneChurch in Seattle. They discuss the challenges Christian leaders face in a large urban environment. Grant and Filmore delve into how the spiritual demands of city life can cultivate a heightened sense of purpose and urgency for a strong prayer life. They emphasize the unique pressures and obstacles leaders encounter when building and sustaining faith communities in cities where secularism and busy lifestyles are prevalent. Tune in as they explore the church's broader role as a space for forming genuine, supportive relationships and for individuals to find belonging in a city where isolation and individualism are common challenges. This episode is a must-listen for Christian leaders in big cities who strive to stay grounded in their faith. Resources:

Learn more about Filmore and his work at ONECHURCH.
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4 Areas We Should Higher the Bar for Our Kids, Not Lower It | Dave & Sydney Clayton Nov 01, 2024

In this episode, Grant explores the complex yet rewarding journey of parenting with guests Dave and Sydney Clayton from Ethos Church in Nashville. They offer a faith-based perspective on some of the biggest questions parents face regarding how to raise children with the right balance of discipline, guidance, and compassion—all rooted in biblical principles. Tune in as Dave and Sydney share valuable insights and actionable steps on how to help kids build emotional resilience, integrity, accountability, and a strong work ethic. Whether you are navigating early childhood or the teenage years, this conversation provides timeless, faith-centered guidance for raising the bar in four key areas that are essential for their children’s long-term success and spiritual growth.

4 Challenges to Revitalizing a Megachurch in Your Twenties | Luke Lezon Oct 17, 2024

In this episode, Grant talks with Luke Lezon, the pastor of Lifebridge Church in Orlando, about the challenges and triumphs of revitalizing a mega church in your twenties. Luke shares his personal journey of embracing big responsibilities, even when feeling unprepared, and offers insights on how to overcome the criticism that often comes with being a young leader. Listen in as they dive into four key leadership challenges that every young leader must tackle when stepping into a major role and how to have confidence that God will provide support through difficult times. This conversation is packed with practical advice on how to lead purpose, no matter your age. Resources

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The 7 Challenging Roles Every Pastor Must Navigate | Mike Burnette Oct 03, 2024

In this episode, Grant interviews Mike Burnette, pastor of LifePoint Church in Clarksville, Tennessee, one of the fastest growing churches in the nation. They discuss the many roles senior pastors navigate, but aren’t necessarily trained to do in seminary–from hiring and firing staff as a nonprofit president, to doing multi-million dollar budgets and meeting with mortgage lenders, to counseling couples on the verge of divorce. Listen in as Grant and Mike paint the practical and complex reality senior pastors manage while shepherding people humbly and well.

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7 Lessons from Speaking 100 Times in a Year | Noah Herrin Sep 19, 2024

In this episode, Noah Herrin, pastor of Way Church in Nashville, Tennessee, shares the valuable communication lessons he learned after speaking over 100 times in a year. He addresses the common difficulties communicators face and provides practical strategies for overcoming these challenges, emphasizing the importance of authenticity, preparation, and audience connection. Key Takeaways:

Preparation is Key: Noah underscores the value of thorough preparation. Being well-prepared reduces anxiety and helps communicators stay focused and clear in their messaging.
Confidence Comes with Practice: Speaking over 100 times in a year taught Noah that confidence grows with practice. Repeated experience in communication builds both skill and comfort.
Authenticity Builds Trust: Audiences respond to speakers who are genuine and relatable. Noah stresses that being authentic in your communication can make you a more trusted and effective leader.
Clarity and Simplicity Matter: Successful communication often depends on the speaker's ability to simplify complex ideas and articulate them clearly for the audience to understand.
Engaging the Audience: Noah advises focusing on building a connection with the audience. Whether through storytelling, humor, or personal anecdotes, engagement is crucial for maintaining attention and fostering trust.
Learn from Mistakes: Fumbling or making errors while speaking is part of the growth process. Each mistake offers an opportunity for improvement, and communicators should not be discouraged by early struggles.

Resources

Check out Noah Herrin's book, Holy Habits.
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5 Ways to Read, Understand, and Love God's Word | Tara-Leigh Cobble Sep 05, 2024

Episode Summary: In this episode, Grant interviews author, speaker, podcaster Tara-Leigh Cobble. They dive into the challenges many young Christians face when it comes to engaging deeply with the Bible. Despite a desire to be in God's Word, factors like social media culture, church trends, and the private nature of Bible study can create barriers. Grant and Tara-Leigh explore why biblical illiteracy is prevalent among younger generations and discuss how Christians can work for God without consistently engaging with His Word, leading to an inauthentic faith. Key Takeaways:

Understanding the Challenge: Explore why young Christians often struggle with consistent Bible engagement and how modern culture contributes to this issue.
Superficial Knowledge vs. Deep Understanding: Learn why knowing only the essential verses or stories can disconnect you from a deeper relationship with God.
Tips for Engaging with Scripture: Our guest shares five powerful tips to help you dive deeper into the Bible:
Look for God: Shift your focus from personal application to understanding God's character.
Consider Context: Avoid taking verses out of context to truly grasp their meaning.
Embrace Uncertainty: It's okay not to have all the answers—continue seeking understanding.
Ask for Help: Don’t hesitate to seek wisdom from God, others, and trusted resources.
Practice Humility: Approach God's Word with humility, allowing for ongoing growth and learning.

Why You Should Listen: If you've ever felt distant from God's Word or struggled to make Bible reading a regular habit, this episode is for you. Whether you're a young Christian leader or simply someone looking to deepen your faith, these tips will help you cultivate a more authentic and meaningful relationship with God through scripture.

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Michael Wear | Politically Homeless | S2 E9 Apr 04, 2024

Do you find yourself overwhelmed by the upcoming election? With all the tension surrounding this year’s presidential candidates, some of you may feel politically homeless.In this episode, Grant Skeldon and Will Chung talk with Michael Wear, author and CEO of Center for Christianity and Public Life. They discuss dealing with this feeling by gaining a new vision to navigate this unique election year.Listen in and learn how to go into this year’s election with more confidence and context. Resources: Michael Wear:

Instagram: @MichaelWear
Michael’s Book: The Spirit of Our Politics: Spiritual Formation and the Renovation of Public Life

Grant Skeldon: @GrantSkeldon Will Chung: @WillKChung

Joel Muddamalle and Jonathan Pokluda | Common and Controversial Questions Young People Are Asking | S2 E8 Mar 28, 2024

Do you feel like you're overflowing with questions? Are you longing to be more spiritually connected? If so, this podcast is for you. In this episode, Grant Skeldon and Will Chung discuss everything from controversial parts of scripture to practical ways of living out your faith with Dr. Joel Muddamalle and Pastor Jonathan Pokluda. They offer guidance on topics the next generation wrestles with. Tune in and discover how you can navigate God’s word thoughtfully, using both spirit and truth. Resources: Dr. Joel Muddamalle:

Instagram: @muddamalle (Send in your questions to Joel on Tuesdays)
Joel's Book: The Hidden Peace: Finding True Security, Strength, and Confidence Through Humility Instagram

Pastor Jonathan Pokluda (JP)

Instagram: @jpokluda (Tune in on Fridays for JP's Q&A)

Addison Bevere & Alec Bevere | How to Reclaim Your Prayer Life | S2 E7 Mar 14, 2024

Do you ever feel guilty that you don’t pray enough? Or that when you do pray, your prayers are bad, boring or empty? In this episode of NextUp, Grant Skeldon and Will Chung talk all things prayer with brothers Addison and Alec Bevere from Messenger International. They uncover the disconnect many of us have about prayer, helping us understand it’s not a formula to solve, but an experience to share. Listen in and discover how you can trade boring, empty prayers for real connection with God. — Resources: Check out Addison’s new book: Words with God

Jenessa Wait, Mariela Rosario | Building Your Relationship with the Holy Spirit | S2 E6 Feb 29, 2024

Does your faith rest in the wisdom of men or the power of God? In this episode of NextUp, podcast hosts Grant Skeldon and Will Chung wrestle with questions like this, prompted by 1 Corinthians 2:5, alongside special guests Jenessa Wait of Bethel Church and Mariela Rosario of She Speaks Fire. Don’t miss this lively deep-dive on the topic of the Holy Spirit—from speaking in tongues to understanding the role of the Holy Spirit and the cost of cultivating the Holy Spirit’s presence in our lives. Listen and be encouraged to make room in your faith life to encounter the power of the Holy Spirit. New episodes every Thursday. __ Resources:

Check out Mariela’s new book: She Speaks Fire: Battling Shame, Reigniting Your Faith, and Claiming Your Purpose

Jenn Jett Barrett, Cheyanne Skeldon | Enneagram is a Tool, Not an Excuse | S2 E5 Feb 22, 2024

Depending on who you talk to, the Enneagram can be a dicey topic–especially if it’s used as an excuse, not a tool. In this episode, Jenn Jett Barrett, Founder of the Well Summit, discusses the Enneagram with Will, Grant and Cheyanne and outlines how to use this system of personality typing to bring clarity about how we, as individuals and as leaders, relate to the world.Tune in to discover how the Enneagram can give you direction but doesn’t have to cage you. New episodes every Thursday. Resources:

Learn more about Jenn’s Well Summit and Enneagram workshops.

Alicia Britt Chole, Jeff Vanderstelt | The Sacred Art of Slowing Down | S2 E4 Feb 15, 2024

If your mind is racing with all the things you have to do, but your heart is tugging at you to slow down, then this episode is for you! Grant and Will talk with authors Alicia Britt Chole and Jeff Vanderstelt about the shifts in values and priorities that leaders need to make in order to lead with God, not for God. They give profound insight into building emotional and spiritual wealth for long-lasting impact. Tune in now and watch for new episodes every Thursday.Resources:

Check out Alicia’s book: The Sacred Slow: A Holy Departure from Fast Faith
Check out Jeff’s book: Gospel Fluency: Speaking the Truths of Jesus into the Everyday Stuff of Life

Hannah Barnett, Daniel Sanabria, Juan Martinez | How to Be a Light When Your City is Dark | S2 E3 Feb 08, 2024

In a time when pastors are falling all around us and there are more and more examples of the Church embedded in politics, these next gen ministry leaders from New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago cut to the chase and challenge us as believers to go to the darkness and be a light. To show up and be consistent with a generation skeptical of Christians. To redefine success in ministry by going long with vulnerability and authenticity.

Tune in now and watch for new episodes every Thursday.

Lecrae | Keeping Your Soul Intact While Pioneering | S2 E2 Jan 25, 2024

As a leader, do you find your schedule controlling you more than you are controlling it? In this episode,Grant and Will lead a powerful Q&A with rapper, CEO, New York Times bestselling author, investor, and activist, Lecrae, about how to prioritize and keep your soul intact while leading and pioneering new spaces. Tune in today and watch for new episodes every Thursday.

Jonathan “JP” Pokluda | Getting Over What Other People Think | S2 E1 Jan 18, 2024

To kick off Season 2, Grant and Will interview Jonathan "JP" Pokluda, lead pastor of Harris Creek Baptist Church and author of Why Do I Do What I Don't Want To Do. They do a deep dive on how to guard your mind, fortify your confidence, and get over what other people think.

Zach Love and Trent Jackson | Private vs. public creatives. Inner Monologue of an Evangelist. Music lyrics and mourning. Fav stories: How did I end up here? Loving people better where they are. Aug 31, 2023

Zach Love and Trent Jackson are Next Up with Grant Skeldon and Will Chung. In this Episode:

Private vs. public creatives.
Inner Monologue of an Evangelist.
Music lyrics and mourning.
Fav stories: How did I end up here?
Loving people better where they are.

Zach Meerkreebs | The unheard stories behind the Asbury outpouring, what can we learn from revivals, and did it end too soon? Aug 24, 2023

Zach Meerkreebs is Next Up with Grant Skeldon and Will Chung. Including:

The unheard stories behind the Asbury outpouring.
What can we learn from revivals?
Did the Asbury revival end too soon?

Scott Hamilton | Suffering and Mastery, Falling 41,000 times, Adoption, Rejection, & Choosing Joy in Chronic Pain Aug 10, 2023

Scott Hamilton is Next Up with Grant Skeldon and Will Chung. Including:

Suffering and Mastery.
Adoption. Rejection.
Chronic Pain.
Courage.

Luke LeFevre | Fasting, Cussing, Holiness, and Application Heresy Aug 03, 2023

Luke LeFevre (Consecrate) is Next Up with Grant Skeldon (THINQ Media) and Will Chung (Beloved Church).

In this episode:

How would you rate your holiness?
Cool vs. Compromising - Identifying white, gray, and black areas of life.
Is holiness a straitjacket?

Tori Hope Petersen | Gentle Parenting vs. Enabling, Foster Care, Embracing our Childhood Insecurities Jul 27, 2023

Tori Hope Petersen is Next Up with Grant Skeldon (THINQ Media) and Will Chung (Beloved Church). In this episode:

Testimony Doesn’t Have Age Limits
From Hating to Embracing Your Differences
Gentle Parenting vs. Enabling
Hot-takes on Millenial Parenting vs. Boomer Parenting
Caring About Foster Care

Teo Hayashi | Filling Stadiums Faster Than Coldplay, Brazil Awakening, Is America Ripe for Revival? Jul 11, 2023

Teofilo Hayashi (Dunamis Movement) is Next Up with Grant Skeldon (THINQ Media) and Will Chung (Beloved Church). Including:

What are the signs of true revival?
Letter to the American church
What’s God doing in Brazil?
Following God even when your friends don’t understand

Andy Crouch | Should Pastors Use ChatGPT & AI? Friends Close Enough to do Your Eulogy Jul 11, 2023

Andy Crouch (Praxis) is Next Up with Grant Skeldon (THINQ Media) and Will Chung (Beloved Church). Including:

A healthy approach to A.I.
The experiment of social media
Online connection vs. true community
Friends who would give your eulogy

Daniel MacLeod | Preaching at a Rave, Evangelism, Overcoming Evangelism Awkwardness Jul 11, 2023

Daniel MacLeod (Jesus Mission) is Next Up with Grant Skeldon (THINQ Media) and Will Chung (Beloved Church). Including:

How opinionated Christians are about evangelism
Choosing the right form of evangelism
The difficulty in evangelizing to your family
Hot-takes on reaching more people for Christ outside of the church

Who's Next Up? Jul 11, 2023

Doesn’t it seem a lot of today’s conversations include the same recycled voices and messages? It’s time to raise up new next-gen leaders and hear fresh perspective. It’s time to change the negative narrative and focus on the good things God is doing in the next generation.

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